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butterfly's picture

I left my country many years ago. I am married to a non spanish. My daughter hasn't got a spanish passport.

Today I'm as much of a spaniard as I was ten years ago. Sometimes I purposely overpronunce the "r's" and "j's" to make clear where I come from.

Last week was very special for my country. A celebration. Spain became a Democracy 30 years ago.

I love my country with all my heart and soul.

Where are you from?
Are you proud of your nationality? If so, why?

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VW's picture

VW said Yes, I am a proud Canuck and ...

Yes, I am a proud Canuck and after reading your post to this effect on the forums, I have changed my profile from "Qatar" to "Canada"... there was no shame involved, I simply labelled where I AM, vs. where I was FROM ;oP

 

Super7's picture

Super7 said I don't think it is about ...

I don't think it is about being ashamed butterfly. I think it is a question of anonymity. I am not ashamed of my name either but I don't want everyone on here to know it.

 

Moudir's picture

Moudir said I agree with super7. Oh, by ...

I agree with super7.

Oh, by the way, where you're 'coming from' doesn't mean you are a 'native' of that country. In the Middle East, the bottom line is your name.

On this site, besides the truthful content of posts, it is hard to believe to the references to the 'country of origin', 'age group' ? ( hahaha...) and all the rest. It is the cyberspace after all, enjoy it!

Just one reference : "one member was stating having 32 years of expat experience and had an age group of? yes, you guessed it; 26-35...??? obviously she started very early in life...OMG :) :) :) "

 

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Moonbeam said Moudir...yes that's me! :) ...

Moudir...yes that's me! :) I can see where you would find that funny....but honestly, I do have 32 years of expat experience. :) I was born out of my home country, and lived out ever since. Kind of qualifies me then right.

If you want to get to the nitty gritty, I wouldn't even know 'when' I became aware of being an expat..... maybe at 3? So okay, I'll give you that.....lets say 29 years then...... :)

 

Moudir's picture

Moudir said No hard feelings Moonbeam... ...

No hard feelings Moonbeam... :) :)

You could have been the daughter of a diplomat, but may be we should define 'Expat' as being an adult person, who has to work, to meet his financial obligations, n'est-ce-pas ?

Have a super day!

 

butterfly's picture

butterfly said ok, whatever... So it's ...

ok, whatever...

So it's about anonymity.

My name isn't butterfly. I am Mustafina, 87, from Fiji.

 

Moonbeam's picture

Moonbeam said No offence taken :) My ...

No offence taken :)

My daughter is close to 3, and she's an expat. But yes, I guess you have point. I've enever thought of it that way, I've always felt like an expat my whole life, so I don't know what it feels like to live and grow roots on my home soil. Closest place I can call home is Egypt. But I'm not going to bore you with my life story. :)

 

Moonbeam's picture

Moonbeam said Butterfly, LOL! My first ...

Butterfly, LOL! My first real laugh of the day. Thanks for your great sense of humour! :)

 

Moudir's picture

Moudir said Au contraire Moonbeam, your ...

Au contraire Moonbeam, your story is fascinating... you must miss a good warm 'fool medammes'...

 

butterfly's picture

butterfly said Moudir, I thought you were a ...

Moudir, I thought you were a thinker...

I am currently unemployed, yet I live abroad. I am, therefore, an expat.

Expatriate is defined as "living away from one's native country" (Collins english dictionary). A child can be an expat, same as a retired older person.


 

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lilipink said Speaking of nationalities ...

Speaking of nationalities ,i'm Egyptian and extremely proud of it.I simply adore everything Egyptian and i think that it is still one of the greatest countries in the world dESPITE ALL THE SET BACKS..i love Egyptian sense of humour and how we are able to rise out of all the b--- S--- by just shrugging it off ,having a huge laugh and believing in god enough to know that everything and everyone is in his merciful hands.....no worries....
I don't mean to romanticise it ...but you started it Butterfly and Egypt has been on my mind for quite a while now......Great beachs ,colourful desert(yes..colourful) magnificent history,great pop culture and the city that never sleeps...so shoot me!!!!!.lili.

 

Moudir's picture

Moudir said LOL :) :) :) Butterfly, ...

LOL :) :) :)

Butterfly, i never say "it's my way or the highway", but sometimes you do. I am only expressing an opinion here...

And in my view, if you are 'financially dependent on somebody else', you cannot be an Expat, because in 90% of cases, you expatriate yourself voluntarily for one reason; to pay the bills.

So... can a 3 year old be an Expat, or... (i shiver to think what i'm gonna say next, but i'll try my best in the most politically correct way):

"would a 30 year old with the mind of 3 year old, be an Expat...?" somehow i don't think so... LOL

 

butterfly's picture

butterfly said Lili! That's what I wanted ...

Lili! That's what I wanted to hear. I've never been in Egypt but must go. Personally I'd love to visit Alexandria, but Cairo sounds like fun too.

Guess Cairo and Madrid must similar cities, they never sleep!

Moudir, I still think a 3 years old can be an expat, same as a 30 y.o. with the mind of 3 as long as he lives out of his country of origin...My opinion, no-one has to agree.

 

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lilipink said B I agree with you ...

B I agree with you ....moudir ..why are u nitpicking??.lili.

 

Moudir's picture

Moudir said lili, you're good with child ...

lili, you're good with child psychology, you're a therapist.
in my spare time, i enjoy creative writing.

 

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gringo nordestino said kkkkkk, read this : "An ...

kkkkkk, read this :
"An expatriate (in abbreviated form expat) is someone temporarily or permanently residing in a country and culture other than that of their upbringing and/or legal residence. The word comes from the Latin ex (out of) and patria (country), and is sometimes misspelled as ex-patriot or short x-pat, due to its pronunciation.

The term is often used in the context of Westerners living in non-Western countries, although there are many instances of Westerners living in other Western countries, such as Australians living in the United Kingdom, or Britons living in Spain.

A nickname in the UK for former expatriates who have returned to Britain is the "When I"s, or "When we"s, as they are accused of starting conversations by saying "When I was in Rhodesia" or "When we were in Singapore". Similarly, they are sometimes even viewed by their fellow citizens as foreigners, particularly their children, whose accents may seem strange to their classmates. The children of expatriates are often considered Third Culture Kids (or TCKs) and later in life consider themselves "Adult Third Culture Kids" (or ATCKs). These children often hold passports from multiple countries, speak several different languages, and have a hard time defining where "home" is.

The difference between an expatriate and an immigrant is that immigrants (for the most part) commit themselves to becoming a part of their country of residence, whereas expatriates are usually only temporarily placed in the host country and most of the time plan on returning to their home country, so they never adopt the culture in the host country.[citation needed] While Europeans or North Americans living in the Middle East and Asia may marry local people and have children, most see no advantage in adopting citizenship of their host countries, usually because they consider their stay only temporary. In countries like Saudi Arabia, expatriates are required to live in segregated compounds, meaning that integration into their host country's society is not an option. As a result a lively virtual community of social blogs evolved among some. "

I like this forum , because everybody is right and no moderator and no administrator to edit, move or delete "offtopic posts"

Enjoy life , I'm a Big World citizen :)

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Super7 said Rule Britannia ...

Rule Britannia

 

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