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Disney's Piglet banned in Middle East!
In Qatar there is only one decent bookshop (that happens to be a Saudi chain) that has a few shelves of English books. Shopping there is hit or miss - you don't go there to look for a title. You go there in the hope of stumbling upon something interesting.
The kids selection is not bad though. The other night we saw Disney's "My Very First Encyclopedia with Winnie the Pooh and friends". We grabbed it and thought it was exactly what we needed for our daughter - not only does she love Winnie the Pooh but she's also started taking a keen interest in nature.
Piglet Censored in Middle East : Hello Kids!
We flipped it open and noticed that some of the pages had been vandalised with a black marker. We figured it must have been bought and returned after some kids had got there hands on it. Further inspection made us realise that this was actually systematic. Someone had deliberately "censored" out each and every picture of Piglet from hundreds of pages in the book with a black marker (my guess is that the book got caught by Saudi Censors enroute to Doha).
Piglet Censored in Middle East : Piglet Erased
From the first page to the last page. Big and small. The black marker was hogging the limelight, so to speak.
Yes, the cuddly cute pink Piglet had disappeared. First, I have no idea who would buy a book that cost about $30 that was marked up like this. Secondly, what the hell were the censors thinking!?
Now as a Muslim, I can venture why they did this. But as a Muslim, I think it is totally ridiculous.
As in Judaism, there are laws governing what can and cannot be eaten. Muslims are forbidden from eating pork, as pigs are believed to be unclean. Now the point of this post isn't to discuss this. The point is, what is wrong with a picture of Piglet in a kids book? I think absolutely nothing!
This whole incident reminded me of a discussion with a friend from South Africa a few years ago. He was explaining kindness and mercy in Islam. He said that a even a pig, a creature which is seen as "despised" by Muslims, is a creature of God and should thus be treated with kindness and mercy. So while we should not eat it, that doesn't meant that Muslims are interested in torturing or trying to exterminate them... even if only with a brand new 3-inch black marker. If a pig was injured, it would be a Muslims duty to assist it.
So, back to Piglet being marked out of a book. I'm not sure what on earth the censors were trying to achieve. Maybe they just haven't been to a farm and seen actual real pigs. Are they trying to dream away the existence of pigs by hiding their existence of pigs?
Piglet Censored in Middle East : Can you find Piglet?
The whole thing becomes totally ridiculous when you realise that you can go downstairs in the same store and buy a range of different Winnie the Pooh DVD movies. In them you can see Piglet in all his 'oinking glory!
Now I've got a feeling that this isn't the result of Qatari censors. They are pretty good when it comes to these sorts of things (they did abolish the "Ministry of Information" a decade ago). I have a feeling that this book came via Saudi Arabia, since the book chain is a Saudi franchise. Of course, such craziness can be expected from the Saudi censors.
Which brings us to the question of censorship in the first place. We often here the big stories about journalists being arrested or killed.
It isn't often that we here about the little things like poor Piglet.
The fact of the matter is, Piglet is a fictional character. If you are really worried about your kids being exposed to subversive activities,you should probably be more concerned with the fact that the damn animals talk!
Piglet Censored in Middle East : Winnie-The-Pooh
In a way though, the whole thing kind of makes sense in this part of the world. I mean, most Arab countries still try to wish Israel didn't exist by not saying it (they say "Palestine 1948") or by marking it off the maps!
Now I guess it is off to Amazon.com to buy the book!
Note : A couple of people have asked if they could use the picture on their own blogs - please feel free as long as you provide a link back here!
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academia said
What gender is piglet ...What gender is piglet exactly?
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pwb78 said
Poor Little Piglet ...First that is the most retarded thing ever! Second, look for Winnie the Pooh books at Babyshop. Selection is hit or miss but it is a Piglet safe store! :)
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academia said
I think the gender issue is ...I think the gender issue is perhaps the real reason for the censorship of the little pink pig.
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qatari said
gender? ...but what about Kanga? She is female...
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Ram said
wut i say?? all the comments ...wut i say?? all the comments that i can say is "Idiots"
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Chloe said
Wow ...That is perhaps one of the most ridiculous things I have ever seen in my life!
Tsardoz said
next thing ...Geez next they might even ban Golliwogs from Noddy!
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Tigasin321 said
Pretty stupid but ...I think you are being overly kind when you say that you found the book at the only decent bookshop in town. As a bookshop it is very very poor. Hit or miss doesn't even begin to describe it, it is mainly if not always "miss".
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Moonbeam said
Camper ...You actually bought it! LOL! I was about to buy the very same book a couple of months back, when I had an enormous laugh at Piglet being cancelled out. In the 30 years I have lived in Muslim countries.......this is by FAR the most idiotic form of censorship I have ever seen. The person that did the cancelling obviously does not have the first clue about islam. Ironic Huh?
freshwave said
very very sad. ...very very sad.
chbck said
What a great idea ...Why stop with pigs? I'm sure there are many more things that can be considered offensive and worthy of censoring. Christians could go ahead and censor/deny the very existance of pigs, snakes, apples, women...the list goes on.
I wonder which member of the royal family in Saudi needed a job, so they stuck a marker in his hand and gave him some grand title like "Minister of Swine Presence Eradication Affairs"?
UberMetroMallu said
Piglet? ...What is a piglet? Where can one see a piglet in Qatar?
hamlet said
No comment ...I am speechless....
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pwb78 said
"A Piglet" is a pig cartoon ..."A Piglet" is a pig cartoon character from Winnie the Pooh. Harmless.
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scoobydooby said
Wahhabi Madness ...Have you noticed that their English Islam section is full of Wahhabi books? And their Arabic section has at least three different versions of Mein Kampf. The fiction section has more Cliff's Notes than classics (which are way overpriced anyway).
The Dubai airport has a far more superior book selection. I guess that's the closest place to get decent books.
amr said
nude ...Oh my god, they finally noticed that Piglet is nude, and they had to censor him, or maybe because he's a pig and Muslims hate pigs. Good job, silly Arabs. (Y)
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sfd24 said
Scoobydooby ...What you mean by Wahabi Madness? What they keep in their English islamic book section?? Bible....
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sfd24 said
amr ...You mention Silly Arabs (i think all Arabs not deserve for THIS honour).. You are from Jorden.. not Arab???
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randr88 said
A few years ago, in Bahrain, ...A few years ago, in Bahrain, Muslim women protested at Marks & Spensers for selling baby clothes with Piglet on them.
When I lived in Saudi, there was heavy use of the "black marker" in all publications. I wondered how they found some of the things in all the books, magazines and newspapers that come into the country.
I think the book in question wasn't meant for this market but Saudi Arabia.
amr said
I am Arab for sure, and I ...I am Arab for sure, and I say that. What do you call it when a government makes public parks and malls for family only? Teenagers will probably look to go bad places.
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sfd24 said
Amr thats i feel ...Allah send last Prophet from Arab to change them,Extremely tough target for a very special person.
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Aisha said
piglet is cute ...OMG This is stupid! What's wrong with piglet!! He's cutie!
fofamoyane said
how bout winnie the pooh? ...did they mark piglet off bec he's a pig? or he's a naked pink pig? or maybe bec we really dont know what gender he really is?
how bout winnie the pooh? a female or a male? and he's not wearing any knickers.. how bout that? should they be marking him of as well? Poor kids that love winnie the pooh..
LOL!!
Hussamf said
get off ur hight horses ...get off ur hight horses people...
agree or disagree without disrespect....
i personally dont agree, but i am sure whoever did this had a reason...
whether or not that reason is valid 2 each individual one of us is irrelevant...
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jeremy said
i bought a bathroom mat at Hyatt Plaza ...i bought a bathroom mat at Hyatt Plaza and it has piglet jumping over winnie the pooh and tigger on the side.
I don't know then y they censored the book
amr said
Because Winnie and Piglet ...Because Winnie and Piglet were in the bathroom, it's private there. LMAO
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Rochester said
what a boar! ...FOR more than 100 years it stood proudly as the centrepiece of England's oldest public park before being decapitated during a Second World War air raid.
Now a row has broken out after plans to replace Derby's historic Florentine Boar statue were abandoned for fear of offending Muslims, whose religion considers pigs to be 'unclean'.
A replica of the statue, a crouching wild boar, was intended as the jewel in the crown of a Pounds 5 million National Lottery- funded restoration of the city's Arboretum Park.
But councillors have called for the proposal to be scrapped amid sinister warnings that the statue would be vandalised or stolen.
The Florentine Boar statue stood from 1840 until 1942 when it was beheaded by a German bomb. But it was last week branded 'offensive' during a meeting of Derby Council's minority ethnic communities advisory committee.
Councillor Suman Gupta, a Labour representative for Derby's Derwent ward, told the meeting: 'If the statue is put back in the Arboretum, I have been told it will not be there the next day, or at least it won't be in the same condition.
'We should not have the boar because it is offensive to some of the groups in the area.' The park is in an area known for its large Pakistani community.
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scoobydooby said
Re; Scoobydooby ...I mean that they only have Islamic books from a Wahhabi perspective. Find me a translation of Al-Ghazzali's Ihya 'Uloom Al-Din or some other classic. Books from that classical set are available in major bookstores in large U.S. cities. You can go to Borders in Washington, DC and find translations of Ibn al-Arabi, Suhawardi, Iqbal, and of course, Rumi.
There are other perspectives, schools of thought, tendencies, etc in Islam. I am not a Wahhabi and I would like to purchase books from a non-Wahhabi perspective.
I believe in the free market and open competition. Jarir can do whatever it wants, but I would appreciate alternatives from Jarir or other bookstores. And most of the non-Arab Muslims here are not Wahhabi, btw.
I read a lot and Qatar is unfortunately intellectually suffocating. I am a Muslim and would like multiple perspectives on my religion -- not simply the perspective of one branch (and the most intolerant one at that).
Of course there shouldn't be a Bible in the Islam section. I never said that. But that doesn't mean there shouldn't be a Bible in the bookstore at all. If we Muslims believe our religion to be universal, the best, etc, then we should have no fear of an open market. Take a look at Qtel and Karwa. The absence of competition creates stagnation. No incentive for innovation.
And finally, Islam prohibits consumption of pigs, but it doesn't promote or condone the mistreatment of pigs. They are creations of God. I've never eaten a pig in my life and I never will. A picture of piglet won't make me running for a BLT. I used to watch Winnie the Pooh cartoons when I was little. I never had the urge to eat pork.
Anyway, I don't understand why Piglet is blacked out, but Hitler's Mein Kampf is available in multiple Arabic editions, presumably unedited. Piglet brings entertainment to children, Hitler brought unparalleled destruction and murder. Strange priorities.
ngourlay said
silly ...The silliest part is that there's plenty of (unedited) cookery books in Jarir that contain recipes for pork. It's baffling that someone would edit a picture of a pig, but not a recipe for a pig.
Ram said
LOL /-a-t-/ NGOURLAY... THAT'S ...LOL /-a-t-/ NGOURLAY... THAT'S REALLY FUNNY
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treasures1234 said
Disney's Piglet banned in Middle East! ...I think this happen in KSA as they have resteiction on books
I think this book store is Jarir as alll it's gods comming from KSA , as they have the main branch or the main store for Jarir
han19 said
my son will be unhappy to ...my son will be unhappy to see his favorite piglet blackened out.
well it doesnt make sense for them to do that.
has this being observed in other book stores too, because i got those tiny winnie the pooh toys from baby shop that has a very cute piglet with it.
so is this possibly a crazy error, a rather senseless one to check what happens?
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bbksiu said
Muslims are not allowed to ...Muslims are not allowed to get close to pigs, consume them, take care of them, ...
bbksiu said
Muslims: Environment affects ...Muslims: Environment affects our behavior & thinking. If we see pigs every day, we will not mind. We might even eat them after some time. Be careful.
bbksiu said
Jarir Bookstore needs to ...Jarir Bookstore needs to remove cooking books that have pork recipes.
sfd24 said
bbksiu...Never ...Haram Walla ,if we daily see pigs not mind (Just animal) but never eat (Haram just like human flesh)
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nadag said
KSA is not the middle east!! ...KSA is not the middle east!! its just KSA..
stealth said
even recipes that contain ...even recipes that contain wine or other intoxicating materials as well.
jaelee said
When we lived in KSA ...When we lived in KSA it was difficult to buy a cook book with Pork Recipe's in them. They were usually torn out.
Also, I remember seeing the wording "Persian Gulf" being blacked out as they recognised it as the Arabian Gulf. I also remember seeing Israel on a world map totally blacked out ...
At one stage, about 8 years ago, they even clamped down on Barbie Dolls, and you could only buy them behind the counter.
I found it all amusing ... we laughed at the people doing this as a job. Lots of stories to tell about living in Saudi ... but at the end of the day we really enjoyed our 4 years there and look back with fond memories.
abc150 said
Not understandable ...I have not been able to understand the fuss created over this issue. Personally I dont give a d*** whether piglet is shown or not but if Saudis decide they dont want piglet, who is anybody to complain? France banned muslim women from wearing head scarves. OK they have the right since it is their country. If some body doesnt like it, he/she should go somewhere else. Similarly, KSA doesnt want piglet. OK, if somebody doesnt like it, either go somewhere else or buy it from amazon. No big deal.
butterfly said
abc ...Excuse me. Get your facts right: "France banned muslim women from wearing head scarves"
This is so not true. I've seen many muslim women wearing head scarves in the street , supermarkets and other public places all over France.
As for Pinglet, I have to say that I have found many pictures of pings in children books in Qatar. I have a couple of books about animals in a farm and yes, there are pigs. It's just probably another of those Saudi things that we better ignore.
WATWAT said
Pigs filthy ...Guys pigs are filthy and should be banned
butterfly said
Wat ...Pigs are wonderful, deliciously delicious creatures, yet they are banned. It makes me sad.
WATWAT said
butterfly ...Well I get sick from the smell of Bacon or whatever it is, pigs eat their [Mod Removed], and people like it!!
butterfly said
Wat ...Chickens eat their [Mod Removed] too. And people like it!
WATWAT said
butterfly ...Well all pigs eat their [Mod Removed], but I never heard of chicken eating its [Mod Removed], I think you either lying or it is very exceptional case.
butterfly said
wAT ...OF course chickens eat their own [Mod Removed], they are such a stupid animals they will have a peck at anything you put in front of them, including another chicken if it looks weaker.
Chickens are far dirtier than pigs will ever be.
WATWAT said
I dought butter ...fly any fair person will agree with you
Gypsy said
Cow feed contains "recycled" ...Cow feed contains "recycled" cows. Chickens most defintely do eat their own [Mod Removed], and other chickens [Mod Removed] and cow [Mod Removed] or pig [Mod Removed] if it is in front of them. Pigs are actually quite clean and intelligent animals. Very similar to elephants in that the reason they wallow in muck is to keep cool, yet there living place must be kept spotless. They're actually quite finicky animals.
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joann_xvi said
Poor piglet ...My question now is: Is piglet a real pig? I don't think he is a pig, he somewhat looks like a worm to me. But even if he is a pig or whatever, the poor character is just that - "a character" he does not exist. He exist only because manufacturers and business men (especially China) take advantage of his popularity as "sidekick of Winnie the Pooh" and children are so fond of him.
I wonder what the poor guy was thinking when he was blacking out piglet, he must have been praying with one eye closed and cannot even tolerate the sight of the "hideous creature" such as pigs... in this case, piglet.
I suggest: Don't buy the book.
sfd24 said
After This Propagenda ...That piglet is banned in middle east, i saw piglet in thousand of places. In carpet, in books, posters , Foot balletc in Qatar. The situation is not such serious as you feel.
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dweller said
Censorship ...I would agree that the censorship was probably undertaken in Saudi although Qatar has "had it's moments" on censorship.
The Simpsons was censored (frozen) one evening and the response when I asked "why?" was that "there may have been something offensive in the programme. They had shown the un-edited version earlier in the day!
All maps in Qatar in the late 70's early 80's had Israel blacked out.
1983 was probably when Qatar probably hit the heights.
The nativity wasn't permitted at Christmas.
The term "Merry Christmas" wasn't permitted on QBS. The replacement became "Merry Crimble"
The Doha Club childrens Christmas party was raided by the police (before the kids arrived) and all decorations removed and Father Christmas arrested. The following year "The Centre" had a grotto manned by a Father Christmas (but named Merlin) together with Black Peter.
HMS Cardiff visited town and displayed a massive tarpaulin stretched across the (revolving) radar scanner with "Merry Christmas" painted on it in big red letters.
Glad to see that at least Qatar is improving.
e46M3 said
Poor Piglet ...Mystica said
Pig story in Saudi ...There was a guy called "Boy Baboy (Pig)" that's his nickname, his business is piggery back in Philippines. Because he's too dedicated with his fortune, he had put tattoo on his back a picture of a pig. Bad luck! Foot and mouth diseases attacked and his business went bankrupt! His wife suggested him to work in Saudi Arabia as Filipino believe working in Saudi is the best way to earn and save a lot of money, she managed to convince him and within a couple of years he went home and start a piggery business again.
One day, someone came looking for him and asked "where does Boy Baboy lives" neighbor replies " you mean Boy Peklat? (Scar). No! I'm looking for Boy Baboy, the neighbor replies, He's no longer Boy Baboy as when he was in Saudi they erased his tattoo as it is "Haram" they said!
The pig tattoo is now a scar! so that's his new nickname now!
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cygnet_chay said
I was really surprise about ...I was really surprise about his piglet thing, anyway one of my neighbors an arab family, gave my son a book for his birthday " The Three Little Pigs" LoL....
fluffy123 said
OK ...i think a lot of muslims(not just arabs) actually belive that even looking at pigs are haraam.i have even had one woman tell my mother that saying the word "pig" is a bad word to say.
eating pig is haraam.and keeping them as pets.but saying the word pig or looking at them is halaah.
and if KSA were following the whahabbi teachings correctly they would black out all the faces.not just piglets.because in whahabi teachings pictures are haraam
Charlene said
I have a tattoo of Winnie ...I have a tattoo of Winnie the Pooh holding the Canadian flag on my leg. Wonder what would happen to me if the wrong person seen that, lol. Could be quite interesting to say the least...
hangypangy said
huh? ...GUys, the pig is an animal created.. with every other living creature by GOD. We should not eat it/keep it as a pet for health reasons which have been proved... more bad than good benefits by consuming it.
But how can one deny the existence of something that is a part of creation... colour it with a marker? Its just a 'toon.
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King Edshel said
Not That Much ...We did not reach the level of saying that even looking at the Pig is 'Haram' or prohibited. We can't just eat this animal and that is simply the story. Saying that Pig is a bad word is also common anywhere else. When you are angry at someone and shouting at him saying 'Hey you Pig!!!'. Would that mean that you are respecting him or calling him by his nickname? :)
I did not mean anything, just clarifying some points. Pigs are nothing but an animals created like other animals by God.
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hangypangy said
hehehe... ...Yup...
Pigs have dirty conotations... in most cultures.... thats why comments like that happen... and they r dirty... cause of their living habits.....?? hmmmm dont eat them... dont let them live in ur house garden etc etc...but dont hurt them torture them .....
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quadfly said
Golliwogs ...Someone mentioned that at some stage they would take Golliwogs out of Noddy. Well i can tell you that here in South Africa, to ensure that Noddy stays as PC as possible, they HAVE removed Golliwogs from Noddy Books. They have been replaced by Goblins.....
So even in a western country we see stupid censorship!!!!!!
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dweller said
Noddy ...There was a public library in the UK that withdrew all Noddy books some years ago because of the homosexual connotations. He was always disappearing into the woods with Bigears. I kid you not!
Jaybroe said
WOW ...Well the best debate ive read on here had me rolling in me seat in costa coffee hey cheers uve mad my day rite or wrong i dont care but i have one statement if the silent stay silent then they will become the oppressed so think ppl a point of veiw is good but an open mind is the key to whatever religion u belive in peace be with u byeee
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MR PAUL said
wheres piglet.. ...try the books in Virgin megastore at villagio for uncensored books.
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Are romance books like mills ...Are romance books like mills & boon also censored?
buttercupryle said
poor piglet.. 我听见 ...poor piglet..
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KellysHeroes said
Who said Piglet is banned ...Here it is
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qatar06 said
Sometimes I think Qatar is ...Sometimes I think Qatar is its own worst enemy
ngourlay said
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DoraTheExplorer said
maybe last year piglet was ...maybe last year piglet was banned....this thread is a year old lol
Shuaibkazi said
U dont understand ...U see ur forbidden to eat pigs and u know how children are,
Sooner or later everything ends up in their mouth.
Its a precautionary measure so the child doesnt eat a pig accidently. So what if its made of paper - LOL!
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DoraTheExplorer said
Who would eat Piglet?!!! ...Who would eat Piglet?!!!
DoraTheExplorer said
Its also not the done thing ...Its also not the done thing to eat spiders but there are books on them!!
Pacifier said
Not by Qatari ...I also think that particular thing is not done by Qatar Censorship.
It is too stupid thing to do.
There are other things done here, but that's another, separate story.
tuningval said
reply ...Very sad--they can't even tolerate a children's fictional character! Let's just push our views on everyone!
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Ram said
haven't you notice that the ...haven't you notice that the last comment on this topic has been since 2 years?
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