Are Muslims eating Pork?

By khalifk




Bounty, Minstrels, Milky Way, Snickers, Twix and Maltesers


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Rennet, a chemical sourced from calves ' stomachs, is used in the production of whey.

It will now also be found in Bounty, Minstrels and Milky Way products, and the ice cream versions of all Master foods ' bars.

It will now also be found in Snickers, Twix and Maltesers.

Note for Muslims

Rennet is usually extracted from Pig stomach and also from Calves stomach.In Western Countries Goat and Cow are slaughtered in Un-Islamic Way so their meat and its extracts are all not permissible for Muslims to use in foods and drinks.

Are we eating Pork?
- Dr. M. Amjad Khan

In nearly all the western countries including Europe,the primary choice for meat is pig. There are a lot of farms in these countries to breed this animal. In France alone, Pig Farms account for more than 42,000. Pigs have the highest quantity of fat in their body than any other animal. The following report by a medical practitioner reveals the extent to which pig fat might be unknowingly consumed by Muslims throughout the world One of my friends, Shaikh Sahib works in Pegal, France, in the Department of Food. His work is to register all makes of goods, foods and medicines. Whenever any company is putting something in the market, its ingredients have to be approved by the Department of Food, France , and as Shaikh Sahib works in the Laboratory Quality Control, he knows about the ingredients. Many of these ingredients contain scientific names, but some have mathematical names, like E-904, E-141. At first, when Shaikh Sahib came across them, he was curious and asked his Department In charge, who was a French, and he replied, ' Just do your job. Don ' t ask questions. ' This aroused suspicion in Shaikh Sahib ' s mind and he started looking-up for them in the files. What he found was enough to astonish any Muslim in the world. Pigs have the highest quantity of fat in their body than any other animal. But Europeans and Americans try to avoid fats. Thus, where does the fat from these pigs go? All pigs are cut in slaughter houses under the control of the department of food and it was the headache of the department of food to dispose of the fat removed from these pigs. Formally, it was burnt
(about 60 years ago). Then they thought of utilizing it. First, they experimented it in the making of soaps and it worked. Then, a full network was formed and this fat was chemically processed, packed and marketed, while the other manufacturing companies bought it. In the meantime, all European States made it a rule that every Food, Medical and Personal Hygiene product should have the ingredients listed on it's cover. So, this ingredient was listed as pig fat. Those who are living in Europe for the past 40 years know about this. But, these products came under a ban by the Islamic countries at that time, which resulted in a trade deficit.

Going back in time, if you are somehow related to South East Asia, you might know about the provoking factors of the 1857 Civil War. At that time, rifle bullets were made in Europe and transported to the sub-continent through the sea. It took months to reach there and the gunpowder in it was ruined due to the exposure to sea. Then, they got the idea of coating the bullets with fat, which was pig fat. The fat layer had to be scratched by teeth before using them. when the word spread, the soldiers, mostly Muslim and some vegetarians, refused to fight. This eventually lead to the Civil War. The Europeans recognized this fact, and
instead of writing ' pig fat ' , they started writing ' animal fat '. All those living in Europe since 1970's know this fact. When the companies were asked by authorities from the Muslim countries, what animal fat is it, they were told it was cow and sheep fat. Here again a question arose, if it was cow or sheep fat, still it is haram to Muslims, as these animal were not slaughtered as per the Islamic law. Thus, they were again banned. Now, these multinational companies were again facing a severe drought of money as 75% of their income comes from selling their goods to Muslim Countries, and these earn billions of Dollars of profit from their exports to the Muslim world. Finally they decided to start a coding language, so that only their Departments of Food Administration should know what they are using, and the common man is left lurking in the dark. Thus, they started E-Codes. These E-Ingredients are present in a majority of products of multinational firms including, but not limited to - [b]tooth paste, shaving cream, chewing gum, chocolate, sweets, biscuits, corn flakes, toffees,canned foods, fruit tins, and some medications like multi-vitamins. Since these goods are being used in all Muslim countries indiscrimately, our society is facing problems like shamelessness, rudeness and sexual promiscuity.[b]So I request all Muslims to check the ingredients of the items of daily use and match it with the following list of E-Codes. If any of the ingredients listed below is found, try to avoid it, as it has got pig fat. E100, E110, E120, E 140, E141, E153, E210, E213, E214,E216, E234, E252, E270, E280, E325, E326, E327, E334,E335, E336, E337, E422, E430, E431, E432, E433, E434,E435, E436, E440, E470, E471, E472, E473, E474, E475,E476, E477,E478, E481, E482, E483, E491, E492, E493,E494, E495, E542, E570, E572, E631, E635, E904. It is the responsibility of each and every Muslim to follow the Islamic path and also keep his fellow followers informed of anything that he comes across.
May Allah help us lead a halal life.
Please pass it on to as many people as you can.
Jazakallah Khair

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By tallg• 8 years 8 months ago.

Some Muslims from Qatar eat pork, drink alcohol etc. Some Muslims from everywhere do those things.

By Straight Arrow• 8 years 8 months ago.
Rating: 4/5
Straight Arrow

yes some Muslims from Tunesia and Morroco eat pork and drink wines ,alcohols, ...etc.

At the end it depends on how strong is the Muslim believes in his belief.

Also one reason that a lot of American eating pork is because it is cheaper than beef and chicken as far as I know.

By verisimilitude• 8 years 8 months ago.

dug up a thread seven months old just to say you love pork?

By Scarlett• 8 years 8 months ago.
Rating: 2/5

if it WERE true...then Muslim and Jewish people would never get the Ah1N1 flu...

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

By m in doha• 8 years 8 months ago.
m in doha

its not from eating pork that you can get AH1N1 flu (aka swine flu)

By Scarlett• 8 years 8 months ago.

Pork will NOt cause skin diseases nor does it give you "swine" flu...

Do some research and find out the FACTS. Chicken are actually MUCH filthier than a pig ever could be. chickens eat their own poo...walk around in it, ect...

Pigs roll in MUD, not poo...because the water in the mud cools their skin. They are some of the most intelligent animals on earth..personally, I know a few people that are much dumber than pigs...smell worse too.

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.

-Mark Twain-

By anonymous• 8 years 8 months ago.

Plz stop eating pork Or u will get effected with skin deseases or swine flue

By a merry can muslim• 8 years 8 months ago.
a merry can muslim

Wow, let's revive a silly thread that is almost 8 months old, why don't we?

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

By anonymous• 8 years 8 months ago.

yeah there religion doesn't allow them to eat pork but in some cases like my muslim co-workers here, they just don't eat pig coz they say it's dirty. but for me, the hell with dirty, I'm still goona eat pork including the blood.

By anonymous• 8 years 8 months ago.

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By draj• 9 years 3 months ago.

anybody says anything but Pork is great.. one of th greatest...

By anonymous• 9 years 3 months ago.

mmmm yummy.....and what about all the medications that contain porcine products.......hope you're not diabetic ;)

By hisashi_mitsui• 9 years 3 months ago.

why, pork is good....very good....

"The grass is always greener...over the Septic Tank"

By Vegas• 9 years 3 months ago.

You can't teach experience...

By anonymous• 9 years 3 months ago.
Rating: 2/5

i know of some British young guy who keeps hitting me all the time with the subject; He use to eat pork sausages and he is missing eating Pork.

I told him sorry dude I don't chow on "raw steaks," or any "Chops."

Poor Lad, is trying to pick on this Red_Pope.

The Seven Words You Can Never Say On QL by George Carlin

By jumpinjackoo• 9 years 3 months ago.

tender, juicy pork steak..hmmmm

In this modern world, internet is the great equalizer.

By shakes.and.lunacy• 9 years 3 months ago.

Haha. I agree with Gypsy.

By Majnoon Ajnabi• 9 years 3 months ago.
Majnoon Ajnabi

make great watch dogs for snakes.

Wasn't it Will Rogers that said.."I never met a pig I didn't like"

He who dies with the most toys wins.

By Gypsy• 9 years 3 months ago.
Rating: 3/5

This is so funny. I grew up on a farm and around farms. Pigs are actually very very clean animals. They (unlike other animals ie Chickens) will not eat or roll in their own poo. You need to keep a clean space for them. All this crap about pigs is totally propaganda

By Amoud• 9 years 3 months ago.

I agree with PM here, I was also told that if you eat pig you will 'take on the characteristics' of the pig... and in the same breath I was told pigs eat their own poop. Nice insinuation...


"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"

By panda• 9 years 3 months ago.

:/ we are still in where halal and where is haram! I think we need more DOCTORS to resolve the main issues

By dweller• 9 years 3 months ago.

I had better cut out the bacon sandwiches and pork chops :0

By dweller• 9 years 3 months ago.

It would have been a good idea to state that in the posting!

By khalifk• 9 years 3 months ago.

Someone forwarded this mail to me i thought to post this as a Forum topic to know the truth behind such claims.

I have not eaten a single choclate after i read this.

Thanks everyone.

By bliss• 9 years 3 months ago.

Thanks for sharing the info. Vegans, awake !!!!!!



By Scarlett• 9 years 3 months ago.

as bad as pigs...whoee...ever been downwind from a swine farm?? NOT a nice place to be!!

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By Scarlett• 9 years 3 months ago.
Rating: 5/5

from wikipedia..


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Rennet (pronounced /ˈrɛnɪt/) is a enzyme containing substance produced in any mammalian stomach to digest the mother's milk, and is often used in the production of cheese. Rennet contains many enzymes, including a proteolytic enzyme (protease) that coagulates the milk, causing it to separate into solids (curds) and liquid (whey). The active enzyme in rennet is called chymosin or rennin (EC but there are also other important enzymes in it, e.g., pepsin or lipase. There are non-animal sources for rennet substitutes.

Contents [hide]

1 Uses

2 Production of natural calf rennet

2.1 Traditional method

2.2 Modern method

3 Alternative coagulants

3.1 Vegetable rennet

3.2 Microbial rennet

3.3 Genetically engineered rennet

3.4 Acid coagulation

4 See also

5 References

6 External links

[edit] Uses

The chief use of rennet is in the making of cheese, curd, and junket. Chymosin reacts specifically with κ-casein, cleaving the protein between the amino acids phenylalanine(105) and methionine (106), producing two fragments. The soluble fragment (residues 106-169), which becomes part of the whey, is known as glyco macro peptide and contains the glycosylation sites for κ-casein. The other component (residues 1-105) is insoluble, and in the presence of calcium ions causes the coagulation of the casein micelles to form a curd.

[edit] Production of natural calf rennet

Natural calf rennet is extracted from the inner mucosa of the fourth stomach chamber (the abomasum) of young calves. These stomachs are a by-product of veal production. If rennet is extracted from older calves (grass-fed or grain-fed) the rennet contains less or no chymosin but a high level of pepsin and can only be used for special types of milk and cheeses. As each ruminant produces a special kind of rennet to digest the milk of its own mother, there are milk-specific rennets available, such as kid goat rennet especially for goat's milk and lamb rennet for sheep milk. Rennet or digestion enzymes from other animals, like swine-pepsin, are not used in cheese production.

[edit] Traditional method

Dried and cleaned stomachs of young calves are sliced into small pieces and then put into saltwater or whey, together with some vinegar or wine to lower the pH of the solution. After some time (overnight or several days), the solution is filtered. The crude rennet that remains in the filtered solution can then be used to coagulate milk. About 1 gram of this solution can normally coagulate 2000 to 4000 grams of milk.

Today this method is used only by traditional cheese-makers in central Europe: Switzerland, Jura, France, Romania, and Alp-Sennereien in Austria.

[edit] Modern method

Deep-frozen stomachs are milled and put into an enzyme-extracting solution. The crude rennet extract is then activated by adding acid; the enzymes in the stomach are produced in an inactive preform and are activated by the stomach acid. After neutralization of the acid, the rennet extract is filtered in several stages and concentrated until reaching the required potency: about 1:15000 (1 kg of rennet would have the ability to coagulate 15000 litres of milk).

In 1 kg of rennet extract there are about 0.7 grams of active enzymes – the rest is water and salt and sometimes sodium benzoate, E211, 0.5% - 1% for preservation. Typically, 1 kg of cheese contains about 0.0003 grams of rennet enzymes.

[edit] Alternative coagulants

Because of the limited availability of proper stomachs for rennet production, cheesemakers have always looked for other ways to coagulate the milk. Artificial coagulants are a useful alternative, especially for cheap or lower-quality cheeses.

As the proper coagulation is done by enzymatic activity, the task was to find enzymes for cleaving the casein that would result in a taste and texture similar to those yielded by animal-based rennet.

[edit] Vegetable rennet

Many plants have coagulating properties. Some examples include fig tree bark, nettles, thistles, mallow, and Creeping Charlie. Enzymes from thistle or cynara are used in some traditional cheese production in the Mediterranean.

These real vegetable rennets are also suitable for vegetarians. Vegetable rennet might be used in the production of kosher cheeses but nearly all kosher cheeses are produced with either microbial rennet or GM rennet. Worldwide, there is no industrial production for vegetable rennet. Commercial so-called vegetable rennets usually contain rennet from the mold Mucor miehei - see microbial rennet below.

[edit] Microbial rennet

Some molds such as Rhizomucor miehei are able to produce proteolytic enzymes. These molds are produced in a fermenter and then specially concentrated and purified to avoid contamination with unpleasant side products of the mold growth. At the present state of scientific research, governmental food safety organizations such as the EFSA deny QPS (Qualified Presumption of Safety) status to enzymes produced especially by these molds.

The flavor and taste of cheeses produced with microbial rennets tend towards some bitterness, especially after longer maturation periods.[1] These so-called "microbial rennets" are suitable for vegetarians, provided no animal-based alimentation was used during the production.

[edit] Genetically engineered rennet

Because of the above imperfections of microbial rennets, some producers sought further replacements of natural rennet. With the development of genetic engineering, it suddenly became possible to use calf genes to modify some bacteria, fungi or yeasts to make them produce chymosin. Chymosin produced by genetically modified organisms was the first artificially produced enzyme to be registered and allowed by the FDA in the USA. In 1999, about 60% of U.S. hard cheese was made with genetically engineered chymosin[2]. One example of a commercially available genetically engineered rennet is Chymax, created by Pfizer.

Today the most widely used genetically engineered rennet is produced by the fungus Aspergillus niger. The problems of destroying the aflatoxins or the antibiotic-resistant marker genes seem to be solved.[citation needed]

Cheese production with genetically engineered rennet is similar to production with natural calf rennet. Genetic rennet contains only one of the known main chymosin types, either type A or type B. Other chymosin types found in natural rennet do not exist in genetic rennet. This is also the reason why special analysis can determine what kind of coagulant has been used by analyzing what bonds have and haven't been cleaved.

Often a mixture of genetically engineered chymosin and natural pepsin is used to imitate the complexity of natural rennet and to get the same results in coagulation and in development of flavour and taste.

The so-called "GM rennets" are suitable for vegetarians if there was no animal based alimentation used during the production in the fermenter—but only for vegetarians who are not opposed to GM-derived foods.

[edit] Acid coagulation

Milk can also be coagulated by adding an acid, such as citric acid.

Cream cheese, paneer, and rubing are traditionally made this way (see Category:Acid-set cheeses for others), and this form of coagulation is sometimes used in cheap mozzarella production without maturation of the cheese[citation needed].

The acidification can also come from bacterial fermentation such as in cultured milk.

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By baldrick2dogs• 9 years 3 months ago.
Rating: 2/5

Pretty much same in UK. Pork is always a poor 3rd as pigs cost a lot more to raise. Put a cow in a field it'll eat grass. You just can't do that with pigs.

Did you Google it first?

By Scarlett• 9 years 3 months ago.
Rating: 3/5

and again I least PART Of this is wrong...Pork is NOT the meat of choice in America...its beef or chicken...

Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.

By a merry can muslim• 9 years 3 months ago.
a merry can muslim

If a pig falls into a salt mine is the salt haram?

They call it the American dream because you have to be asleep to see it... --George Carlin

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