Arab-Jew sex
By anonymous • 5 years 10 months ago.

Arab guilty of rape after consensual sex with Jew

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with a woman who had believed him to be a fellow Jew.

Sabbar Kashur, 30, was sentenced to 18 months in prison on Monday after the court ruled that he was guilty of rape by deception. According to the complaint filed by the woman with the Jerusalem district court, the two met in downtown Jerusalem in September 2008 where Kashur, an Arab from East Jerusalem, introduced himself as a Jewish bachelor seeking a serious relationship. The two then had consensual sex in a nearby building before Kashur left.

When she later found out that he was not Jewish but an Arab, she filed a criminal complaint for rape and indecent assault.

Although Kashur was initially charged with rape and indecent assault, this was changed to a charge of rape by deception as part of a plea bargain arrangement.

Handing down the verdict, Tzvi Segal, one of three judges on the case, acknowledged that sex had been consensual but said that although not "a classical rape by force," the woman would not have consented if she had not believed Kashur was Jewish.

The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said. "If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have cooperated," they added.

The court ruled that Kashur should receive a jail term and rejected the option of a six-month community service order. He was said to be seeking to appeal.

Segal said: "The court is obliged to protect the public interest from sophisticated, smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price – the sanctity of their bodies and souls. When the very basis of trust between human beings drops, especially when the matters at hand are so intimate, sensitive and fateful, the court is required to stand firmly at the side of the victims – actual and potential – to protect their wellbeing. Otherwise, they will be used, manipulated and misled, while paying only a tolerable and symbolic price."

Gideon Levy, a liberal Israeli commentator, was quoted as saying: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman?

"Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."

Arabs constitute about 20% of Israel's population, but relationships between Jews and Arabs are rare. There are few mixed neighbourhoods or towns, and Arabs suffer routine discrimination.

Israeli MPs are considering a law requiring prospective Israeli citizens to declare loyalty to Israel as a "Jewish, democratic state". Many Arabs would balk at swearing allegiance to a state which they see as explicitly excluding or marginalising them.

Dan Meridor, a deputy prime minister in Binyamin Netanyahu's government, is opposed to the proposal. "Why does every bill need the word 'Jewish' in it – to show the Arab citizens that it doesn't belong to them? Then we're all shocked when they radicalise their stance.

"The majority doesn't need to remind the minority that it is in fact a minority all the time," he added.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/20

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By fhyzzal• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 4/5
fhyzzal

no comment... =.=

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

Judaism is a religion, while Arabism is a race/ethnicity.

There are Jewish & Christian Arabs in many Arabic countries.

Would she have protested if she has found out that the man was actually an English Muslim?

Is she worried about the religion, the race, or the orgasm?

By anwarji• 5 years 10 months ago.
anwarji

boared to read fully......no comments.

By Xena• 5 years 10 months ago.
Xena

Stupid woman.... Doesn't like who she found him to be so she cries rape.... how wrong...

However he isn't exactly shining white in this whole incident either...

What is wrong with people?

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

bechya you were attracted by the title and you thought that there were lotsa fotos inside :-)

By gudone• 5 years 10 months ago.
gudone

OMG first ever heard ths type of case...

By FathimaH• 5 years 10 months ago.
FathimaH

He got what he deserves IMO.However to call it "rape"? All in all tis a strange strange case. Hope the deceived one feels better now..

By britexpat• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 3/5
britexpat

"The sex therefore was obtained under false pretences, the judges said"

What a load of crap.. This happens every day in every city.. We make up stories to impress the opposite sex with a view of getting nookie ...

By Xena• 5 years 10 months ago.
Xena

is out....what a pity.... very long time no see

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

Cos if it were, Britexpat would be in the gallows for life

By baldrick2dogs• 5 years 10 months ago.
baldrick2dogs

Seems she was too quick to open her legs.

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

it can be cheating

but rape.........no way!

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

I would have claimed temporary insanity for deciding to convert to judaism for one night

By bea_7• 5 years 10 months ago.
bea_7

technically if she deceived by the guy, sex really wasn't consensual...

then again... if she kept () closed maybe that tiny little bit longer... ha ha ha

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

this guy picks this hooker from the night club and keeps telling her: "I'm 7cm long...I'm 7cm long"

She replies: "so what? I'm still gonna charge you a 100 bucks....let's get on with it, hon"

After 15 minutes she walks out angrily from the room, painful & almost walking like a cripled, while she yells at him:

"damn those schools you've gone to! They didn't teach you the difference between length & diameter???!!!"

By Colt45• 5 years 10 months ago.
Colt45

you care to explain more ;-))

By anwarji• 5 years 10 months ago.
anwarji

mrgc ...really might have got tired searching fotos.....huh??? try somewr else not here....rofl.

By mmyke• 5 years 10 months ago.
mmyke

informed consent...

well, they are cousins, aren't they??

By kotaiba• 5 years 10 months ago.
kotaiba

lool .. yeah that could be confusing.. both arabs & jews are circumcises .

but hey..would that open up the door to .. "OMG he lied to me.. he said he was a doctor ..that's why i slept with him.. but he turned to be a plumber.. good one though :) "

this conflict is taking a whole other dimention !

By bea_7• 5 years 10 months ago.
bea_7

oh, I believe that for sex to be fully consensual, you have to be honest, coz if you lie about something, then it really is deceipt ;o)

anyway, it is a theoretical argument... let's have that coffee ha ha

By Mr M.• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 3/5
Mr M.

That woman felt cheated because she believed the guy was a jew as well! she just can't differentiate between Judaisiam and bieng arab,religion and ethnicity!

By epicurean• 5 years 10 months ago.
epicurean

This is the best story I've read all day. Thank you for sharing. Really made me laugh. "Rape by deception"??? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!

By britexpat• 5 years 10 months ago.
britexpat

She wanted a Kosher Saussage ... Now she'll probably go to hell :O(

By tvmagic• 5 years 10 months ago.
tvmagic

what a joke!

By soniya• 5 years 10 months ago.
soniya

Well, she has brought religion in between...I can't digest this...May be, she would be right..But i think LOVE sees no religion, country barrier, caste or creed..

By donald_duc168• 5 years 10 months ago.
donald_duc168

page...

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

did she like it?

By kbaisi• 5 years 10 months ago.
kbaisi

What a joke of a ruling. Lots of men lie about their jobs/financial status to bed women, should they also be prosecuted for "rape by deception"? Ridiculous law, I am sure it was more fueled by his race more than anything.

By Xena• 5 years 10 months ago.
Xena

'What a joke of a ruling. Lots of men lie about their jobs/financial status to bed women, should they also be prosecuted for "rape by deception"?'

If I had to count the times I've lied about being married to get a guy to leave me alone... I'd be prosecuted too... for perjury;-P

By kbaisi• 5 years 10 months ago.
kbaisi

lol, exactly. They are convicting him for lying rather than anything else. I am sure judaism frowns upon premarital sex like most religions, so her issue with him is more to do with race rather than anything substantial, it wasn't like he tricked her into marriage then had intercourse with her.

By Mr M.• 5 years 10 months ago.
Mr M.

Britexpat,i think if she took the trouble of looking around harder,she would get what she desired! Non-kosher not allowed!

By bea_7• 5 years 10 months ago.
bea_7

I am sure this is the issue of kosher sausage... and I agree - we're missing an important thing here: did she like it??? ;o)

by the way - yes, people lie to get others to sleep with them, but it doesn't make it right! no, it doesn't make it a rape, but why do you have to lie to get lucky?

By KHATTAK• 5 years 10 months ago.
KHATTAK

MODs...Would you please move this thread to "Funnies"? :P

By edifis• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 4/5
edifis

LOL at Britex....Kosher sausage. Now she will go to hell!

By Xena• 5 years 10 months ago.
Xena

Haram... not Halal;-P

By gkramer• 5 years 10 months ago.
gkramer

I hope this news doesn't find it's way to beaumont. I may end up facing a lawsuit :o(

By Dracula• 5 years 10 months ago.
Dracula

geezz...Now I have to shave my beard and to undress my white thobe.

Anybody wants to buy a Land Cruiser? :)

By edifis• 5 years 10 months ago.
edifis

From now on men should carry a halal certificate and brand their sausage with the halal stamp and show it to the women on demand.

By Xena• 5 years 10 months ago.
Xena

a local to pull women?

Thats hilarious;-P

By gkramer• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 5/5
gkramer

The guy's version

According to Kashur, he did not pretend to be Jewish.

He told reporters that he is known by friends and family by the nickname Dudu, which is more commonly used by Jews called David.

He has been under house arrest for two years, he said.

"If I were Jewish, they wouldn't have even questioned me," the Haaretz newspaper quoted him as saying.

"That's not called rape, I didn't rape her in the forest and and throw her away naked. She agreed to everything that happened."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-10717186

By crnkshft• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 2/5
crnkshft

Really ... If she is so Jewish following old testament levitical law, she should not have had sex until marriage. It's not like she was buying a used car, why not wait and have him meet your family first, your family will figure it out quicker than you, especially if you already want to hop in the sack with the guy. Kosher or not I think she liked the sausage

By crnkshft• 5 years 10 months ago.
crnkshft

I though they stoned adulterated, does that not apply if the man is Arab?

By britexpat• 5 years 10 months ago.
britexpat

That bloody Dracula..

He dresses in Thobe and dances to impress the girls .. :O(

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=cda_1192772943&o=1

By ex.ex.expat• 5 years 10 months ago.
ex.ex.expat

:(

By britexpat• 5 years 10 months ago.
britexpat

We had a Dodi who went out with Princess Diana, so why not a DuDu ??

By ex.ex.expat• 5 years 10 months ago.
ex.ex.expat

dudu is shyte for a name ;)

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

ridiculous...& that's putting it mildly...of course,it's obvious the whole furore is because he's Arab & nothing else,that's pretty obvious to see...don't see why the Israeli authorities think anyone wouldn't see through their hypocricy...

By anonymous• 5 years 10 months ago.
anonymous

What did he get her to drink?

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

So if I borrow money from a bank and they give it to me thinking that I am Jew, but I am Muslim, then would I be guilty of robbery? :-(

By ex.ex.expat• 5 years 10 months ago.
ex.ex.expat

Looks like it :( I guess anything to perpetuate the hate, eh?

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

are you judging me?

By ex.ex.expat• 5 years 10 months ago.
ex.ex.expat

They seem to be willing to do anything to keep their hate going (as do many Palestinians). Wasn't referring to you mate :)

By verisimilitude• 5 years 10 months ago.
verisimilitude

feel free to judge :-)

By edifis• 5 years 10 months ago.
edifis

You're right kids often say dudu when they mean shit.

By lawa• 5 years 10 months ago.
lawa

she dont know the diffrence between muslim and jew while having her best night with him as muslim have to make circumcision

so she got what she want and after her satisfaction she declared it rape

what fool full story

By britexpat• 5 years 10 months ago.
britexpat

Jews are circumcised too :O)

By qatarisun• 5 years 10 months ago.
qatarisun

funny lawa..:):)

By lawa• 5 years 10 months ago.
lawa

but for all muslims it is important

By mmyke• 5 years 10 months ago.
mmyke

sex?

:)

they are all nuts and this proves it.

By qatarisun• 5 years 10 months ago.
Rating: 2/5
qatarisun

I guess it’s a mental, emotional, religious abuse rather than physical.

Here is a sample. Once back home we gathered for the BBQ, and guys were preparing different type of the meat: chicken, pork, lamb, beef… for some reason they cooked pork BBQ first, and put it on the table.

There were couple of muslims among the guests. I saw one of them is approaching the table (he didn’t know what meat was cooked and served first). The guy was going to pick one of the pieces and to put it on his plate, at this time he almost touched the piece of pork. Last moment I warned him: “this is pork!” His reaction was unpredictable.. .He could not help vomiting, and that’s good that he managed to slip into the bathroom where he threw out…

Now, can you imagine if the host of this party would intentionally tell him that this is a beef (not pork), and would let him eat this meat?.. and can you imagine if this guy realized later WHAT he has eaten??!! What type of reaction would he have? And what kind of feelings towards the host he would experience? Please guess…

so it is normal reaction..

everyone knows: NO NEED to play on the religious matters..

By edifis• 5 years 10 months ago.
edifis

I once had beef in a buffet lunch without knowing it was beef. But when I came to know it was beef I didn't throw-up or did anything weird. I simply walked out of the restaurant, without eating any more.

By flor1212• 5 years 10 months ago.
flor1212

and whether knowingly or unknowingly taking something not acceptable to your conviction!

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