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Two Muslim Men, Not Women as Witness, HELP!..
I need to renew my "Ethbath Adzam es-sawaj" i don't really know the words translation of these in English, anyone? It's like, Marriage Proof Certificate, please correct it if it is wrong.
This is yearly renewed and it is so hard for me to find two muslim eligible men to stand as witnesses for me that i am not married again after my divorce. I need this document in doing almost all the necessary processing like when i apply for a helper, to apply for a job, or simply wanted to travel.
The court requires two muslim men to witness for me, i don't know alot of men and the court doen't accept women as witnesses. Anybody from QL help me for this, please? Those who came to witness for me those past years are my friends husbands, and i am now ashamed to approach them again. Pls send me PM , if someone of you can help...
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KellysHeroes said
mariam ...it is a proof of no marriage.
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smoke said
as always i'm confused, if ...as always i'm confused, if your divorced why in the world do u need to keep renewing this so called marriage certificate?
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mariam-mar said
Smokey, , it is not a ...Smokey, , it is not a divorce paper, it is a paper proving i am an eligible single, not married anymore and not married again..
Thanks for posting.
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
smoke said
so that means untill u get ...so that means untill u get married again u have to keep doing this? whats the point?
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mariam-mar said
I don't know but to prove i ...I don't know but to prove i can do my own decision, no longer man to approve of everything for me. During my marriage, i ask permission and approval from him before i can like, when taking driving license, no husbands approval, no license etc.
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
mariam-mar said
Smokey, your tail is making ...Smokey, your tail is making me dizzy...
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
Lady Di said
Hi ...Hi Mariam-mar, i can ask my fiancee regarding that matter. Maybe he can help you.
mariam-mar said
Lady Di, How did you read ...Lady Di, How did you read my message, Angel? I took your mob number from QI to talk to you about this matter, PLEEEEEEAse!
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
whoami said
Well if it's as simple as ...Well if it's as simple as that, i'll help out.
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princess habibah said
According to islamic law... ...According to islamic law... divorce is proven by 2 witnesses.
I would contact a lawyer about having some paperwork stamped by the qatari authorities in which would allow you to use them every year as opposed to going through this palova. May Allah make it easy for you!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
HAPPYDAY said
AM mariam, are u still ...AM mariam, are u still here?
mariam-mar said
Hello HappyD, am back, call ...Hello HappyD, am back, call me sometime, am still busy but here i am stealing a time to participate in the forum
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
DohaSteve said
Much as I hate to question ........ ...Much as I hate to question the values of any society, being fully aware that pretty much all societies have their minus points, isn't this just a little bit degrading to women? If a woman is old enough (i.e. an adult in the eyes of the law) then shouldn't she be able to make her own decisions?
I just finished reading A Thousand Splendid Suns and was saddened by the way that women were treated in Afghanistan. This doesn't seem to be too far away from that situation.
As usual, apologies to anyone who is offended by me expressing my opinion.
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Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
princess habibah said
I think you are reading too ...I think you are reading too much into the situation!
Qatar is more advanced then afghanistan in terms of rights of women. And no society is perfect.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
DohaSteve said
.... needed to apply for a helper, a job, to travel, .... ...Also posted was "no husband's approval, no driving licence" ..... I don't think I'm reading too much into it at all
While I agree that Qatar is probably more advanced than Afghanistan in terms of rights of women, it still doesn't seem like a whole lot further down the line to me when the word of a woman is valued less than the word of a man.
And you echoed my own words, where I conceded that all societies have their minus points.
princess habibah said
Ouch talk about strong ...Ouch talk about strong opinions.
The country is progressing Doha Steve. These things take time.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
DohaSteve said
princess - yes, I do have strong opinions ........ and I'm aware that sometimes I don't put my opinions across in the most diplomatic fashion. Hence the premature apology in my original post.
Hope you have a great day.
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Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
mariam-mar said
Thanks for posting Steve, ...Thanks for posting Steve, this is life of married and divorced women, what to do... i wish this will be reversed soon, specially to someone like me, aging...LOL!
"There's nothing we can do to change the past, if it teaches you a lesson profit from it then, forget it."
DohaSteve said
Mariam ...Hope you get some resolution soon
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Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson