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Pickpocket prevention strategy - bachelors?

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The Gulf Times mentioned increased pick pockets in shopping malls.

The article mentioned that controlling the entry of bachelors into shopping malls may get rid of "unwanted elements" in malls.  They suggested malls should fix a minimum purchase for bachelors to entry. 

 

How can this system happen?  How can a store check if a bachelor bought some items?  Are bachelors the problem?  When I was a bachelor, I never pick-pocketed.


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catsniper said just crazy!!!!!    If ...

just crazy!!!!! 

 

If it's true that we are here to help others, then what exactly are the others here for?


 

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dragonfly212 said thats crazy suggestion. ...

thats crazy suggestion. whoever suggest that is crazy maniac

 

 

Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.


 

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diamond said So unfair.   It is wrong ...

So unfair.   It is wrong to suggest that all pickpockets in malls are bachelors or to deny them entry. 

 

 

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novita77 said Lol at your post Bae. Few ...

Lol at your post Bae. Few years ago when we just arrived The City Centre used to have a family day on certain day (i think either Wednesday or Thursday).

 

Then my brother in law came from off shore for the day for his dental appointment. He need to buy something that quite important for him ... he arrived in The City Centre but he cant get in. So he have to ring me and my husband to come to the city centre to walk him into the mall ... Once you are in , the security wont bother you.

 

 Rediculous !!!

 

Like you Bae ... my brother in law did not pick pocket either.  

 


 

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greentea said what's new??? juzzz one of ...

what's new??? juzzz one of those crazy ideas you only encounter here in this part of the planet

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learn.n.earn said baedaebok...can you please give reference of gulftimes edition ...

can you give reference edition for that suggestion?

if it is true, it is truely illogical.

 

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jayce1967 said Before they ...

Before they (pickpockets) were at the bus terminal, now they are at the shopping malls. They're getting bolder and bolder these days

 

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MR PAUL said Good to see Yet again the Qatari MPs in charge are doing ...

something worthwhile in their working day......In fact why not just ban all single people from working in Qatar,  employ only families and you can all lead nice crime free lives....This is absolutely pathetic and yet again shows the world that Qatar is nothing but a slavery  rich country !!

 

 

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dragonfly212 said Hi MR. PAUL, me like your ...

Hi MR. PAUL, me like your footnote so much

 

 

Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.


 

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Rizks said     Ban in Shopping ...

 

 

Ban in Shopping Mall .... Wat a stupid idea indeed !!!

 

Coming dayz you may find ban on public toilets with a message

" Only Married people can use it "Undecided


 

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r7 said Thts just stupid ...

Thts just stupid !!! 

 

 

 

 


 

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MR PAUL said Rizks, you may laugh, but that may still happen !! ...

Anything is possible  out here !!

 

 

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someonenew said Ridiculous! ...

Is this bachelor thing only for single men? How do they know they are single and not married? What about single women? How do they know that women dont pickpocket? And what about kids? There are lots of cleptomanic kids out there!!!


 

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learn.n.earn said baedaebok ... can you give reference to this suggestion? ...

can you give us the reference to this suggestion posted in gulftimes please?

 

everyone one agree here that this is a stupid suggestion...

 

can we know the exact reference of this suggestion (if  any)??

i think it is better idea if such postings also share the reference of the information.

 

 

 

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mghozlan said !!! ...

acutely i'm troubled with such statments, crazy ppl should be locked away, why every single person here is a suspect?

so if i'm single, i'm a thief, criminal by nature !!! wow this is a new classification, a new revolutionary legal concept.

 


 

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Gumby said As I understand "bachelor" ...

As I understand "bachelor" in the Gulf English dialaect, it doesn't mean only an unmarried man.  Unfortunately, I understand it to refer specifically to South Asian, transient, poorly paid male labourers without their families.  We know for sure that the article isn't referring to unmarried 55 year old male invesment bankers.

 

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Vivo Bonito said that's so ...

that's so illogical...

 

we knew when they say what a bachelor mean  in this country., they're referring "bachelors"....  literally to such specific group.

 

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Gumby said It may be illogical, but the ...

It may be illogical, but the evolution of langauge and regional variations are not logical...Undecided  If  you read Kuwait newspapers they talking about "Housing crisis for bachelors", and "The police arrested a gang of bachelors on suspicion of drug smuggling".  Everyone understands exactly what they are saying.

 

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baedaebok said Bachelor discrimination - stuffing a sock in it ...

Check it out at http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topics/article.asp?cu_no=2&item_no=216416&version=1&template_id=36&parent_id=16

 

A housewife suggested making bachelors buy something or keeping them out (on family days like Novi's brother-in-law experienced).

 

Gumby, your comments "bachelors = underpaid, poor South Asian workers" explains the article well.  When I go into Landmark by myself on a designated "Family Day", the security guards don't stop me.  But they did stop some "bachelors" (Gulf dialect).    This is racism and shouldn't happen.  But what can you do?  Just treat everybody well.

 

I stuff a sock into my pocket to protect my wallet and I hold onto dw (darling wife) purse to prevent theft.  I was mugged in Toronto so I'm quite safety-aware.


 

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Snowstorm said hope nobody comes up with such stupid rules ...

 

YOU DONT KNOW ME, DONT EVEN TRY !!!

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Jarreau said Are only single men banded ...

Are only single men banned from shopping malls or does it count for the single women too????

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Alexa said     My husband was ...

 

 
My husband was stopped at Landmark once, he had an appointment at the hairdresser, he could not attend........he is not Asian.......

 

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Gumby said And at Landmark they let ...

And at Landmark they let both me (standard-issue white guy) and my South Asian colleague in on a family day, but stopped the S. Asian labourer behind us.  We were in suits and he was in labourer clothing.

 

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learn.n.earn said Alexa...your husband? ...

in your profile you state yourself as a "male"...and your "husband" was stopped at landmark...mmm

i think they were right in stopping your "husband"...makes some sense...

AND EVERYONE...PLEASE READ THAT ARTICLE IN GULFTIME BEFORE COMMENTING ANYTHING...
this suggestion is not given by government or someone "known"... you better read it first... is nothing... and we all made so much of it from nothing...

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Korly said Forget about Winona Ryder, staff.... ...

its the single men you need to watch out for.... they are kleptomanics.... All of them...

 

Rich single woman don't do such things....;-)


 

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aikon said nggilani... mosok goro2 sik ...

nggilani... mosok goro2 sik bujangan , nek mlebu mall kudu tuku barang 5 macem. aturan opo iku....

 

 

~it's ridiculous, because of he still bachelor.. he must buy minimum 5 items to get in to the mall ???


 

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deedee said kicked out of park ...

My husband and 2 young sons were kicked out of the park right down from landmark right after it opened.   The reason given then was "family day"  Since they had no mother with them (I was enjoying some peace and quiet) they were not considered a "real family".    My peace and quiet did not last as long as I wanted on that day.

 

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spyro said learn.n.earn the comments... ...

that are posted here are MERE REACTIONS to the suggestions of some interviewee by Gulf Times. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I feel, being a bachelor myself, this issue is worth discussing. Everyone should be treated equal. Regardless of gender, race, status, etc.

 

Korly... you mean you need to watch out for ALL single men coz they're ALL kleptomaniacs?  I find it ridiculous! How about those you haven't mentioned? Do you have any idea what's going on in their mind?

 

Let's start with yours....

 

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Gumby said I ready Korly's post as ...

I ready Korly's post as being tongue-in-cheek and not serious....

 

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JBH said This is just ...

This is just nonsence.

 

I've been married for over 20 years and I'm a right thieving git.

 

Call me Maninibat!


 

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chelsea_5706 said nonsense! ...

The statement with Bachelors is plain dumb! PERIOD

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janeyjaney said A raging rant to ALEXA's post! ...

Wow! What a striking statement you have posted there!! Your husband wasn't allowed to enter.. to add to that he is not Asian? Hahaha!

 

So, what if your husband is Asian or not? Still doesn't justify your rants on the topic chosen for the thread!! 

 

This is my stand, we are all here for work and to rant about Qatar not our fellow expatriates. 

 

So, Alexa please think before you write. There are a lot of Asians out here. 


 

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mufy said souq waqif on weekends ...

even though police says that on weekends, souq is only for families, bachelors  there with good dressings are always let it in. 

 

and if ther comes a law that bachelors wont be allowed inside malls, i can show that to my parents so that i can marry ;) good excuse huh?

 

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jackmohan2007 said This is an Experiment ...

This is an Experiment.

 

1st they stop the bachelor from entering the mall.

....................If the pickpocketing continues....

 

They willl stop the kids from entering the mall 

 

 ....................If the pickpocketing still continues....

They willl then stop the couples from entering the malls.....

 

....................If the pickpocketing still continues....

They willl then stop the females from entering the malls.....

 

 ....................If the pickpocketing still continues....

They willl then move out all the shops from the Malls.....

 

AND......grow grass inside the malls and convert them into Carparks..... 

 


 

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baedaebok said Between a rock and a hard place ...

The heart of this issue:  respect & profiling.  The malls are in a difficult situation:  stuck between two hard rocks.  They don't want to offend people by profiling some members of society as higher risk of being pick-pockets but they want to keep the bad elements out.  All people want respect but the mall security has profilled that a "bachelor" (using Gumby's defn) is the most likely to pick-pocket.  What do they do?


 

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Korly said lol, thank you for seeing my post ...

for what it was Gumby, It was totally tongue in cheek:-)

 

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novita77 said LMAO Jack Mohan .... good ...

LMAO Jack Mohan .... good one ...

 

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harsha said jackmohan.. lol.. gud ...

jackmohan.. lol.. gud one... 

 

btw its d dumbest idea ever..


 

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Pradeepnair said hahhahhaha....................... ...

This is ridiculous yaar..............

How can u stop Bachelors!!!!!!!!!

Actually very less placef or them to move around in Qatar and if u close those places then wht will they do on weekends????

 

What do you mean, my birth certificate expired????????


 

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Gypsy said  So they only think ...

 So they only think bachelors are doing it eh Laughing (cracks knuckles) well guys I'm off to the mall to do a little pickpoc....I mean shopping. Tongue out

 

 

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Korly said JaneyJaney, I think what ...

Alexa was meaning was that they don't only stop Asian from going in, its bachelors from any nationality....

 

She didn't mean it in the way you took it.


 

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DohaSteve said I agree with the ban ..... ...

Everybody that enters a mall, be they male or female, should be made to produce their marriage certificate.

 

Once that has been checked and verified and stamped by three different people (none of whom can read the language that said marriage certificate is written in), they should be made to open up jackets, coats, abayas, dish-dash, and turn out the pockets of jeans or trousers to prove that they don't have extra deep pickpocket pockets.

 

Furthermore, anybody with a naff haircut, a squint eye, low forehead, trashy earrings, scuffed shoes, one shoulder higher than the other, moaning children, teenagers, or wearing colours which clash, should not only be forbidden from entering, they should be banned for a period commensurate with their offence, which will be tabulated and put up on every entrance door (e.g. slightly scuffed shoes = 1 week ban, a bad squint = 3 months ban, etc).

 

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aikon said that's unacceptable.... to ...

that's unacceptable.... to blame bachelor for pickpocket problem...

 

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tobyson said   LMAO................... ...

 

LMAO....................doha steve. Thats hillarious!!! :D


 

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Alexa said   Thank you ...

 
Thank you Korly.

Janeyjaney....maybe you should read my post agin...and try to understand what is actually said before ranting...would save you some embarrasment.....


And yes, what Korly said is right, i WAS implying that it is not ONLY Asians who get refused entry....

And yes, I also think it is entirely ridiculous to deny entry to bachelors no matter what nationality they are.Plus to imply they do not have honorable purposes to their visits...not right at all! 

 

Learn learn....you might want to think about "profiles"......lol. 

 

 

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Korly said hehehehe, DohaSteve ...

Thats funny....

 

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CuriousCat said Itz Really a Bad Idea! ...

Me had a bad exp, was just roaming around in new souque in front of alfardan , with one of my friend . Suddenly one cop stopped us entering in side , we just wondered bothering about the reason for that action , same time he allows others to pass through,
all were not with family off course.We just asked for the reason for stopping us to enter ,He replied in Arabic , could't get ..Bse we dont understand arabic. On showing our Company ID card he allowed to go inside. If this is a “bachelor issue" , just wondering on what basis " they make decisions"


 

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RED_POPE said Pickpockets cash in at crowded shopping malls ...

Pickpockets cash in at crowded shopping malls

Published: Sunday, 4 May, 2008, 01:54 AM Doha Time

By Ramesh Mathew

 

Mr. Ramesh Mathew,

 

 

 The best prevention for the situation of **pickpocket** is "Indivual awareness and prevention".  Don't impose economic limitations of purchase or profiling of races.  There is many ways to control this problem besides just placing dictatorial rulings.

 

 

 

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mr_rob said Mouse-traps in the pockets ...

Mouse-traps in the pockets work very well indeed as a pickpocket deterrent. Just don't try to run anywhere.

 

Eve's picture

Eve said Solution ...

Why don't the shopping malls just have more security guards in place and allow everyone the right to shop?  In the past they didn't allow single guys into Landmark on certain days as most young men were just walking around cruising bugging the ladies but how do you know if they want to cause trouble or shop?  And it was Arabs they were targetting not Asians.


 

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mr_rob said Let's get another ...

Let's get another government agency formed, and we'll all have to apply for a special Shopping Permit, where you have to scan it in before they let you through the doors.

Of course, applicants would need to meet certain conditions of: no facial deformities / excessive ugliness, a minimum income amount, minimal body odour, etc. 


 

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samaac said Surveillance system ...

I wonder why they keep so many security gaurds at shopping malls and plus they have cameras also in shopping malls every where and still we have this problem. I remember only once they stopped me at the City Center gate that was b4 two years me and my friend we are movie freaks never missed any but that day they stopped us from entering but luckily one of the shop owner in city center was a friend of mine and i called him he took us in.Hardly in qatar there is only one place C.C where bachelors can go either for shopping, for coffee,for movie or for eating. I have seen alot of bachelors asking families if they can enter with them on family days.

 

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vicver said That's a good suggestion. I ...

That's a good suggestion. We just need to be carefull with our pockets. Better put a rat trap.
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goaboy said psycho ...

these people are nuts

 

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Secguy said Who says its only guys. ...

Who says its only guys. Wasn't there an report about a group of females deported over pickpocketing?

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