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Israel marks its 60th anniversary
Celebrations have taken place across Israel to mark the 60th anniversary of the founding of the state.
Fireworks, concerts and an aerial display were among the events laid
on, while Israeli families enjoyed picnics and barbecues for the
national holiday.
Israel declared itself an independent state on 14 May
1948, three years after the end of World War II, and the death of six
million Jews in the Holocaust.
But Palestinians know the foundation day as al-Nakba, or "the Catastrophe".
They held solemn marches in the West Bank, meant to symbolise the hope
of Palestinian refugees to return to villages in what is now Israel.
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Ehud Olmert, Israeli PM |
At one march, attended by thousands of Arab Israelis from northern
Israel, hundreds of protesters clashed with police, and several people
were injured, police said.
Israeli celebrations meanwhile drew large crowds to
military air shows, while military bases opened their doors to the
public to show off some of their arsenal.
Uncertain future
The BBC's Tim Franks in Jerusalem says Israel has changed dramatically
since it was founded, with a population nearly 10 times larger, and a
stronger economy and military than its founders could have dreamt of.
However he says it is also a place riven by uncertainty
- over its unresolved conflicts with neighbouring Arab countries and
the Palestinians, and over the question of whether its own religious,
political and ethnic mosaic still fits together.
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Israelis were entertained by parachute jumps
The state of Israel was proclaimed about six months after the United
Nations General Assembly voted to partition what was then Palestine
into Jewish and Arab states.
In the war that followed, some 700,000 Palestinians fled or were driven out of their homes.
The anniversary is calculated according to the Jewish lunar calendar.
Palestinians are due to mark the occasion, al-Nakba, on 15 May.
Hopes for peace
The 60 years of Israel's existence have been marked by conflict, both
with its Arab neighbours, and with Palestinians living under
occupation.
Present day conflict is a continuation of a 60 year old controversy
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On Wednesday, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert spoke of his hopes for future
peace, in a speech marking Remembrance Day, when Israelis honour
soldiers killed since the state was founded.
"Our conflict has been long indeed," he said.
"However, it is peace, not war that we aspire to and crave."
Israel's existence as a nation, he said, depended on its "willingness
and ability" to defend itself, but there was also a "willingness to
compromise".
Mr Olmert's political future is being called into
question, since he became the centre of a police inquiry. The Israeli
courts have imposed a gagging order on reporting the details of the
inquiry.
US President George W Bush is due to attend a conference marking the anniversary in Jerusalem next week.
The US president is pushing for a Middle East peace settlement before
he leaves office in January, but there has been little visible progress
in talks between Israelis and Palestinians.
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thexonic said
lol IF EVERYONE WAS TO ...lol
IF EVERYONE WAS TO TAKE AN EYE FOR AN EYE, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN BLIND TODAY - MAHATMA GANDHI
capricorian313 said
hahahah hhahah Live ...hahahah hhahah
Live and let live...
. said
On this occasion ...I would like to salute the Palestinean resistance & struggle against the Zionist terrorism & occupation of Palestine. A salute to every honest Palestinean who refuses to recognize any signed "peace" treaty as we all no there will NEVER be any peace coming from the Zionists, and the only solution for this occupation is to send those Zionist back to the countries they immigrated from (since the early years of the 20th century)
A lot of honest people from around the world, have full respect & appreciation to the brave way those heroic Palestineans are refusing to give up their rights, refusing to forget their tragedies caused by the Zionists, and to the way they are leading the struggle against that terrorist regime called "Israel".
Gypsy said
Kudos for Israel. I wish ...Kudos for Israel. I wish them a peaceful future. :)
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tallg said
These celebrations took ...These celebrations took place last week, didn't they?
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. said
as expected on such occasions ...another U.S president has just praised the terrorists & killers (Israel) and condemned the heroic legitimate resistance organizations of the real owners of the land (Hamas & Hizbullah).
This is a very clear case of hypocracy & political prostitution, and this is why such stupid & hateful mentality of such terrorist presidents will always bring destruction & insecurity to their people & countries no matter how many Vietnams, Somalias, Afghanistans or Iraqs they are able to invade.
Gypsy said
Well, you know, Hezbollah is ...Well, you know, Hezbollah is so busy killing Lebanese in Beirut these days, it's understandable they don't have enough time to kill Israelis. :P
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. said
u shld be clever enough to face the facts ...and c how many members of hiabullah were killed lately in Lebanon, then u'd realize who started the aggression
But that's another issue & doeznt change the fact of why Americans dont feel secure even in their country
Gypsy said
Well perhaps the Hezbollah ...Well perhaps the Hezbollah wouldn't be getting killed if they weren't trying to take over Beirut and kill innocent Lebanese. Just a thought. And this thread is about Israel's 60th anniversary, not about why Americans don't feel safe in their own country.
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. said
As I said u need to b clever enough to c the facts ...& the 1st fact which u cant c is that u can start a new thread to discuss the Lebanese problem.
FYI everything waz quiet in Lebanon until some lousy politicians (paid by Americans) tried to pass some stupid laws against the will of the Lebanese ppl...thus caused all the damage. Now they shamelessy swallow their words
Picasso said
AHAHAHA good one ...AHAHAHA good one gypsy
However, talking about this topic i would like to mention the fact that it is very ASTONISHING what happened yesterday and i wish it was more underlined by the press.
the relationship between israel and the USA has been for many years denied, or covered for many political, economical and geostrategical reasons.
What really astonished me yesterday night is the fact that not only politicians were there but ALSO well known hollyood actors and singers (barbara stresand was there,...) and it gets worse CEO of big international companies.
So what does that say, the best way to make an illegitimate relationship become a legitimate one is to let the world knows it careless of what some others could feel about it.
as mentionned by TOCQUEVILLE and many others big philosophs.
the first step to democracy is when there is a clear separation between the state and the religion. Yesterday night nobody mentionned ISRAEL but rather the JEWISH state. Not Israeli protagonists were present but JEWISH ceo's, comedians, and singers.
Therefore, i would strongly advise Mr. Bush not to give any speech concerning implementing Democracy in Irak or in any part of the world. It couldn't get any ironical and even Funny than Mr Bush's speech yesterday night:)
To another extent, i wish my deepest sympathy to my lebanese brothers. May God protect this beautiful country that i heard sooo much about from my grand father, french citizen who fell in love with this country (before the 1970's)
God bless my fellow QatarLiving members, God bless Qatar
:)
"If you don't take risks, you don't drink champ-agne..."
Picasso said
The Hezbollah is not = the ...The Hezbollah is not = the lebanese people.
it's just a minority getting minor and minor day by day.
Don't confuse "."
Gypsy, i am with you!!! GO GIRL!!! lol
"If you don't take risks, you don't drink champ-agne..."
Gypsy said
I dont' think I'm the one ...I dont' think I'm the one who needs to be clever .said, you're the one who can't seem to see the problem of a non-governmental "organization" trying to overthrow a legitimate government that was elected by the people. If that's not terrorism I don't know what is. Really Hezbollah should get their mission straight, is it Jews they want to kill or Muslims?
Picasso, I've never really found that the US has ever denied ties to Israel, in fact they always seem to have been pretty blunt about it, the 60th anniversary not being an acception.
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Chillie Puddy said
Long Live Isreal :) ...Long Live Isreal :)
. said
gypsy the only times terrorism has faced legitimately ...elected governments is once in Algeria when the islamic government headed by Abbasi Madani was elected by the ppl but opposed by the whole world, then the same happened with Hamas when they were elected by the ppl, and I also remember that it happend in Europe/Austria (the lands of "free world & freedom of expression") when the whole world stood against Hyder. An honest man hated by the Zionists.
Yes, all this proves that u dont know what is terrorism
Picasso said
you know what is the biggest ...you know what is the biggest problem of the Middle East according to me???
it's that we can't have a conversation without getting SOOO PASSIONATE (Chillie, your opinion isn't needed if not supported by any arguments. Thank you)
Gipsy, so how would you explain the fact that Mr. Bush never went to Israel during his 7 years of presidency??
"If you don't take risks, you don't drink champ-agne..."
Chillie Puddy said
Isreal is a true champion ...Isreal is a true champion among a bunch of Loosers ;)
Picasso said
ahahahah, what a good ...ahahahah, what a good argument!!!
keep up the good work Chillie LOL
"If you don't take risks, you don't drink champ-agne..."
Picasso said
hmmm, member for 40 ...hmmm, member for 40 minutes.
Glad to know it's this topic who got you in!!!
"If you don't take risks, you don't drink champ-agne..."
Gypsy said
Who the hell is Hyder??? ...Who the hell is Hyder???
Picasso, he's been there several times, just the beginning of this year actually. I'm not saying the America backing Israel is a good thing, I'm just saying I don't think they've hidden it.
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Alexa said
Gypsy, Haider is a far ...Gypsy, Haider is a far right politician from Austria. I do not know if he is still active there, I certainly hope not. As he is clearly a Nazi symphathizer.
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Gypsy said
Ahhhhh! I thought he was ...Ahhhhh! I thought he was just severly mispelling Hitler. :P
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. said
well if there are ppl who think: ..."long live israel" then I certainly dont c anything bad done by the Nazi.
Austria should open up to democracy & freedom and give the people the option to elect such decent politicians.
Alexa said
Gypsy, in a way he ...Gypsy, in a way he was......lol
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Osman Yissah said
Whenever the USA is ...Whenever the USA is involved, there is always more layers
of deception. what we see and hear in the general mainstream media is like half a layer.
The U.S could end these conflicts like that, with help from allies i suppose.
Why dont they?
top 10 countries need it to sell weapons, no one wonders hows who taught israel to build UZIs and gives them M16 or why they just never run out bullets?
If the Usa barricade and sanction all conflicted countries till arms numbers fell so low that sticks would be the replacement
Then again considering the facts, does anyone wonder why palastine, lebanon have not just bent to the will of a mightier force of israel?
look through enough cracks and layers, and you will see the arms dealers working for the u.s.a and supplying the insurgents.
Israel wasnt a result of the guilt for the haulocaust, but more like the largest joint business venture the world has ever known.
we can sit here and discuss who's land it is etc. but its all irrelevant, because thats not why the conflicts continue.
Ask a pious Jew if Israel, should be considered a state, he will say NO. it is written in the TORA what was needed to be done for israel to peacefully exist. And has it been done NOPE.
Dont forget JEWs are placed in economically strategic positions in the USA.
But also countries that supply the usa with ores and such and oils, Muslim countries mainly, would be more allied with palastine and israel.
Also the U.s being a christian state, seem to persecute and look down on Jews it has become a norm, considering it is said the jews happily disposed of their saviour.
The muslims who DONT even believe JESUS ACTUALLY DIED SHOULD RATHER come to the aide of the "seemlesy wrongly accused jews" ... not the case
So we can be certain israel was not made for religious purposes either.
Really its the same old stuff that happened a thousand years ago when everyone went on a crusade to the holy land and every thought knights templar were protectors of pilgrims, when they were really after treasure.
In the present same old story but more layers of Bull.
these layers prevent any one country from actually just saying , "hey we will carpet bomb both of you if you don't resolve this"
Talking about deaths and whose land it is like treating cancer with a strong pain killer.
Talking about the underlying layers of beneficiaries to the conflicts, and trying to uncover the layers of bull, and unlikely 2 way allegiances, is like trying to remove the whole tumour for good.
Osman Yissah said
Holy crap ...Thats one long Post. I do get carried away
RED_POPE said
Conclusion to this thread. ...The State of Israel and its people are here to stay on this earth permanently. Regardless of the negative opinion of some nations or group of people that oppose that idea.
As long there are nations or groups willing to destroy them, they will defend themselves at any cost.
My opinion is that each individual needs to embrace peace and support the already established signed peace treaties and governments from previous elections.
There is no need to support the political interest of other hostile nations that are always interfering with the peace process with ignorant political ideologies of aggression. In war everyone suffers.
Everything is funny as long as it is happening to somebody else.
-- Will Rogers
KellysHeroes said
dot com facts ...hizbulla and its gangs did not find any military targets in Beirut so they decided that a funeral to burry one of its victims would be a threat. they shot at the funeral and killed 6 innocent people. this took place some 3 days ago.
the numerous number of hizbulla militants killed is due to a simple fact that the attacker encounters much more casualties than the defender.
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Renee said
RED_POPE said Conclusion to ...RED_POPE said Conclusion to this thread. ...
The State of Israel and its people are here to stay on this earth permanently. Regardless of the negative opinion of some nations or group of people that oppose that idea.
As long there are nations or groups willing to destroy them, they will defend themselves at any cost.
My opinion is that each individual needs to embrace peace and support the already established signed peace treaties and governments from previous elections.
There is no need to support the political interest of other hostile nations that are always interfering with the peace process with ignorant political ideologies of aggression. In war everyone suffers.
>>>Have you been to this region and seen how the Palestinians suffer on a day to day basis?
Have you seen the wall - how haunting it is and seen how Israel has destroyed the people of this region???
Have you seen how the Israelis intimidate the Palestinians on the street with their machine guns while the Palestinians have no other option but to step aside on the side walk like swine?
Have you seen the Palestinian refugee camps where they cannot return to their original homeland?
Have you been to Gaza where children are actually starving to death?
Or try the emergency ward in Gaza – its pleasant in there. No the Israelis don’t target civilians - are you that daft?
How would you feel if you were kicked out of your home and your land taken from you?
It’s so easy to criticise suicide bombers when you don’t even understand the reality of what it means to have everything taken away from you...it’s called desperation..unless you have experienced it you have no right to question it.
Go visit Gaza, the West Bank, Jerusalem before posting posts like this.
Just keep listening to Bush and pals, they know everything...
Long live Palestine!!
thexonic said
lol give it up people... i ...lol give it up people... i wont comment on anyone, u all have ur opinions... we all know who's right...
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Renee said
And who is that in your our ...And who is that in your our opinion? The people who continue to suffer or the Israelis?
Didn’t you enjoy Bush’s speech today where he condemned Palestine once again but never blames Israel for their part in this nonstop battle..Israel never targets civilians - that' my favourite, only children, women and ah...airports...
. said
renee ...you said:
"It’s so easy to criticise suicide bombers when you don’t even understand the reality of what it means to have everything taken away from you..."
but there is no "suicide bombers"!!! These are terms invented by the bloody americans. There are brave men who are willing to sacrifice their lifes in order to make those (civilians or soldiers) who stole their homes/lands/country, pay dearly!
Chillie Puddy said
Long live Isreal. Teach ...Long live Isreal. Teach terrorists a lesson. They only know how to talk B.S. :)
Chillie Puddy said
"There are brave men who are ..."There are brave men who are willing to sacrifice their lifes"
They are cowards who can not fight a face to face with an another fighter (American)
. said
Once again today in sharm al-shaikh ...this stupid president of America has twisted the facts & has taken the side of the criminal & terrorist Israeli regime, and was encouraging nations to hate Hamas, Hizbullah, Iran & Syria.
It is only logical that honest citizens of the world should support whichever party/country/organization that is condemned by any american president, while they should realize the evils of whichever party that is praised & supported by any american president.
This is why some "terrorists" should be proud of themselves if they were called so, by the USA :-)
dragonfly212 said
i really hope and for a day ...i really hope and for a day of peace for israel and palestine. both live in harmony, respect each other religion and belief but united by the love of the land.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.
qatarisun said
hey hey hey ...hey "." (damn it! it's so hard to type your name!)....no matter what,but I do not agree to hate SYRIA!!!! I CANNOT..
but if you all only knew how much i wish the peace would be established in all Middle East, i.e. Lebanon, Israel, Palestine, Syria... GOD HELP THEM!!!
. said
mila I don't know from which country you are ...but if I decided to leave my country, immigrate to your country, come to kill your family & kick you out of your family house, would you then love me? live with me in peace & harmony? wish me happiness? respect my religion & belief?
qatarisun said
eh??? ...whole Qatar knows from which country Mila is!
and hey..... stop with this record.. it's like a broken photocopier ... once starts copying, never stops...
MR PAUL said
Why are you getting eaten up "." The Idiot Bush will soon be out ...of Office, and hopefully, a new Pres will do their damndest to bring out the troops and allow peace to settle in the Middle east.....
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qatarisun said
is that your new ID? ...i guess it would be easier to type...let me try:
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qatarisun said
Mr.Paul!!! ......and allow peace to settle in the Middle east.....
Insha'alla! Amen!
thexonic said
"I know not what weapons ..."I know not what weapons will be used in World war 3, but the 4th world war will be fought with sticks and stones" - Albert Einstine
Una palabra no dice nada, Y al mismo tiempo, Lo esconde todo - Outlandish