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Doing business in Arab world - need insight!

baedaebok's picture

What are some good books for understanding how to do business in the Arab World?  I need to understand about how people reach decisions and conduct business in this part of the world.  I don't mean a book about the do's and dont's (offer coffee when people visit you, don't shake the left hand, etc.).  I know many of these or can easily find resources about them.  But a book which describes how business is done and decisions are made.  I need deeper insight.

 

For my four years here, I've been living in a Canadian bubble or cocoon.  Now that I'm leaving moving onwards to work in a different context, I want to read up on how to live and work successfully.


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Ragnarock Raider said IF you ever find that book baedaebok, please pass it along! ...

LOL

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KatKutter said good luck ...

i'm an arab and i still havent figured that one out!

 

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AbuAmerican said Experiment and then write ...

Experiment and then write the book. I will buy it!

 

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DohaSteve said Some people won't like this ...... ...

... and again, it's generalising, but I've been here almost 5 years now, and I think I can comment.

Doing business here all depends on the structure of the company you are doing business with. There are a number of global names here, who will impose upon their personnel a set of ethics and business standards that must be adhered to. There are also some local businesses where the top echelon recognises the benefits of doing business in an ethical manner.

However, these are still in the minority. Many businesses here are still family owned, with the children having taken over the running of the business from the father, with no qualification other than being of the same blood.

These businesses are ususally in the grip of the Indian mafia; you have accountants running purchasing and logistics functions simply because the owners don't know any better.

Your chances of getting business ethically are greatly reduced, but if you employ someone who is in "the circle" then you will get business; just don't ask too many questions about how the job managed to come your way.

Don't ever believe that the prices you quote on a job will be kept confidential. They will be handed out to whoever is the favourite vendor for that company, so that they can re-quote to beat your price.

Also, don't be surprised if you are asked for "commission". This can take the form of cash, but will more likely be in the form of goods (refrigerators and tv's are the most popular). Another favourite is airline tickets for the family, or paying for school fees.

I had my own methods for dealing with this in the past. I bought each of my sales people a small digital recorder, and if they were asked for commissions, they arranged to meet later so that they could record the conversation.

I would say that about half of the companies that we played the recordings to took action; the other half merely shrugged their shoulders and smiled. Those were the ones I stopped doing business with.

It's very, very difficult to remain as an honest business person here, and I wish you the best of luck with it.

I must also stress that there ARE honest business people here - it's just not too easy to find them, and of course it depends on what business you are in.

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Aisha-Taweela said DOHASTEVE ...

You hit the nail right on the head. But to left out the Egyptian mafia....
Aisha-Taweela

 

Gumby's picture

Gumby said Yep. A lot of normal ...

Yep. A lot of normal business practices here would be considered corruption elsewhere. Takes a while to adjust.

 

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mghozlan said Aisha ...

Egyptian mafia, this is the first time to hear about it??
can u please clarify.

 

lamea said wow dohasteve!very ...

wow dohasteve!very enlightening and very sad.

 

canarybird said Aisha-Taweela - and ...

and the Philippino Mafia who do have a strong hold here to I know this because of contracters I was dealing with - whoever had the right contacts and the right presents got the contract.

 

canarybird said baedaebok - here ...

Here you are you can collect a great deal of information for yuor book - I am sure it will be a best seller. LOL

 

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baedaebok said Not talking about business world exactly...academic world ...

DohaSteve...this is quite informative about doing business in the Arab World. But it is not quite what I had in mind. I didn't mean the ethics of doing business or how to do business as in getting contracts, purchase orders, reducing conflict of interest, etc. I asked the wrong question. I mean this.

How are decisions made within a non-profit or academic organization? How do people get things done or come to make a decision? Let me provide background. I've been working in an academic institution in Doha for the past four years. It is run and managed by Canadians. Now, I'm moving to an institution that is run and managed by people from an Arab background. In this context, I want to know how to "enjoy" working there and how to get things done. An example book (Don't they know it is Friday?) is what I'm thinking about but it is not enough.


 

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DohaSteve said baedaebok, I have some experience ...

some experience with CNAQ, VCUQ, and Qatar Foundation here, so I suppose QF is the only one I have any first hand knowledge of that fits your description. To be honest, they are very forward thinking, and have employed many Qatari's who have been well educated and exposed to western business practices. I also know that Sheikha Moza (spelling?) expect high standards, and expects things to happen quickly as far as QF is concerned. Good luck with your move!

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"You can't tell which way the train went by looking at the tracks"


 

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nadt said Need patience, infact doing ...

Need patience, infact doing anything in the Arab world(not just business) requires patience...

 

Gumby's picture

Gumby said Forward thinking is one ...

Forward thinking is one thing, but Qatar, for the time being, lacks the lower-level and mid-level human resource capacity to carry out many of these plans. The vision and planning may be good, but implementation will stay tricky for some time to come.

 

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baedaebok said Influencing decision-making? ...

I'll give you an example of what I am thinking.

For exmaple: In Qatar, often the real and fruitful discussions and decisions are made in informal meetings (over coffee in a "majlis" or Starbucks"?). In the formal departmental (or whatever type) meetings, everything is already discussed anf everyone has decided what they want to do. The purpose of the meeting is to show that they do indeed have meetings and also as a place to make announcements. My question: how does an employee get involved in this decision-making and real meeting time? If I have an idea that may benefit the university, how can I suggest trying it out (without stepping one others' toes and without someone else getting credit for the idea)? In addition to this, I'm a foreigner working in an Arab university so am I always in the outside looking in?

 

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whoami said [AT]bae, A book that I ...

[AT]bae, A book that I recommend at ILQ.net is 'Don't they know it's Friday?'

It's a great resource, and I'd say around 90% of it is accurate. It has customs, traditions and thoughts that I didn't think about because it's so natural.

Get that book it's a good investment.
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baedaebok said Got it..will read it! ...

I borrowed it from the library this morning. I'm taking it home to look at over the weekend.

If I want to get anything done at my new school, I need to understand how decisions are made and things are done.

 

Aisha-Taweela said Baedaebok ...

If you know that things get discussed at starbucks or over a coffee in the majlis, why do you try that road then too?
Aisha-Taweela

 

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RED_POPE said baedaebok ...

baedaebok said:

For my four years here, I've been living in a Canadian bubble or cocoon.

For sure it is going to be a metamorphosis and serious personal cross over.

Lets not forget to add the Lebanese and British mafia......

Synopsis of the book:
A business handbook which addresses the cross cultural aspects of life affecting Westerners and Gulf nationals of all GCC countries and deals with the realities of business practice and the mental stresses and strains of operating in the Gulf as a Western visitor or expatriate.

Everything is funny as long as it is happening to somebody else.
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baedaebok said It's all about timing! ...

I just finished "Don't they know it's Friday?" this morning. One thing I got out of the book is the importance of "timing" as opposed to "being on-time". This adds a new understanding to how things work. This shows me why sometimes when I start a class, the students seem unhappy. On other days, they seem happy. This may have been because the timing was right in the former classes. In the latter classes, the timing was wrong so students felt I wasn't professional or sensitive to their needs.

Personally, I love being "on-time" but my sense of "timing" is off. How does one develop "timing"?

 

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whoami said its all about the atmosphere ...

its all about the atmosphere and the scene you set before delving into a subject.
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