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are these sister religions???

realsomeone's picture

Comparison of Religious Beliefs

Islam
Judaism
Christianity
type of theism
strict monotheism
strict monotheism
Trinitarian monotheism
ultimate reality
one God
one God
one God
names of God
Allah (Arabic for God)
Yahweh, Elohim
Yahweh, the Holy Trinity
other spiritual beings
angels, demons, jinn
angels and demons
angels and demons
revered humans
prophets, imams (especially in Shia)
prophets
saints, church fathers
identity of Jesus
true prophet of God, whose message has been corrupted
false prophet
Son of God, God incarnate, savior of the world
birth of Jesus
virgin birth
normal birth
virgin birth
death of Jesus
did not die, but ascended into heaven during crucifixion
death by crucifixion
death by crucifixion
resurrection of Jesus
denied
denied
affirmed
second coming of Jesus
affirmed
denied
affirmed
divine revelation
through Muhammad, recorded in Qur'an
through Prophets, recorded in Bible
through Prophets and Jesus (as God Himself), recorded in Bible
view of sacred text
inspired, literal word of God, inerrant in original languages
views vary
inspired, some believe inerrant in original languages
human nature
equal ability to do good or evil
two equal impulses, one good and one bad
"original sin" inherited from Adam - tendency towards evil
means of salvation
correct belief, good deeds, Five Pillars
belief in God, good deeds
correct belief, faith, good deeds, sacraments (some Protestants emphasize faith alone)
God's role in salvation
predestination
divine revelation and forgiveness
predestination, various forms of grace
good afterlife
eternal paradise
views vary: either heaven or no afterlife
eternal heaven
bad afterlife
eternal hell
views vary: either eternal Gehenna, reincarnation, or no afterlife
eternal hell, temporary purgatory (Catholicism)
view of fellow Abrahamic religions
Jews and Christians are respected as "People of the Book," but they have wrong beliefs and only partial revelation.
Islam and Christianity are false interpretations and extensions of Judaism.
Judaism is a true religion, but with incomplete revelation. Islam is a false religion.


ilovefonzie's picture

ilovefonzie said YEAH ...

yea they are ....
first came Judaism (the religion of Noah, Moses, Solomon, David) ,
Then those who believed that Christ was the Messiah became Christians.
Then those Christians who belived in Prophet Muhammed's teachings became Muslims


 

lamea said yes, in a way. as muslims we ...

yes, in a way. as muslims we believe bible, gospel and psalms have the same author( Allah) but have been changed over the passage of time,hence no longer authentic. Quran can be called the latest edition by the same author and unaltered.

 

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t_coffee_or_me said I wonder with the second ...

I wonder with the second coming what the new religion would be

 

 

 

hmmhmm


 

thexonic said Quite intresting :) IF ...

Quite intresting :)

IF EVERYONE WAS TO TAKE AN EYE FOR AN EYE, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN BLIND TODAY - MAHATMA GANDHI


 

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realsomeone said not sister religions ...

true that means they are not sister religions since these people are not practising the original religion... and specially Christians what they are believing is almost atheism therefore, Islam & Christianity are not sisters.

 

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AbuAmerican said interesting chart.. did you ...

interesting chart.. did you make it?

 

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catsniper said intrsting!! In the end, we ...

intrsting!!

In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies, but the silence of our friends.


 

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swissgirl39 said cool chart.thanks realsomeone ...

 

 

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realsomeone said you are very much welcomed ...

you are very much welcomed Swissgirl

 

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dragonfly212 said this 3 religion is comes ...

this 3 religion is comes from one men abraham so we all related.

Everybody is right everybody is wrong it depends where you stand.

 

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Alexa said  What does it matter? ...

 What does it matter? There is only one GOD....just different practices to worship him....in the end it is all the same.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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t_coffee_or_me said Abu american this is ...

Abu american this is definitely a copy and paste production

 

 

 

hmmhmm


 

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beautiful_facts said realsome...good information ...

even if it is copy paste (as t_cofee) suggesting, is still a good information

thanks for posting.

No amount of experimentation can ever prove me right; a single experiment can prove me wrong - Albert Einstein

 

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realsomeone said Alexa it does matter ...

It does matter Alexa, The One God has described himself one correct way to reahc and maintain relationship with him... that is why religions evolved over the time.

 

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Alexa said  I am sorry, I do not ...

 I am sorry, I do not think it is good information in the context of harmony and understanding. I also think that those two things are sorely missing in our societies today and are the reason for many of the problems that we have.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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realsomeone said i mean reach... secondly ...

i mean reach... secondly what Christians believe is not infact one God but its three for the thinking mind.

 

adey's picture

adey said realsomeone ...

Your last statement is SO wrong.
Do better next time :)

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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Alexa said  Realsome, and even if it ...

 Realsome, and even if it were 5 or 500...i still think it does not matter. We all have the same goal.....good deeds, charity, sound mind, honesty etc. all the traits that make man good....now, if we would all strive towards that, instead of worrying what other people do, the world would be a better place.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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salax85 said very good information, givin ...

very good information, givin a family feeling :) ...

btw yes christians have the One God, the Son and the Instincts or whispers (or something like it)


 

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salax85 said ok lets keep this ...

ok lets keep this peaceful... all of these religions expect followers to be as good as they can to be human. the only difference lies in the worship of the superior entity and lifestyle they chose.

 

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realsomeone said Adey my Statement is Correct ...

Why is My statement wrong Adey? dont Christians have 3 in 1 can any Christian Scholar explain this... even the christians are confused about this.

Alexa what you said is right but our goals are defined by God and he defined also our way to achieve this goals that is why he sent us prophets to show us the right way... so now we cant say we can do it on our own defined way freely... we cannot break the law.


 

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Alexa said  Realsomeone, you are ...

 Realsomeone, you are correct. Everybody believes their own personal way, and our gaols are the same. Isn't that more important than to insist there is only ONE right way? Imagine everybody, instead of a few, would do that. The world would be more chaotic than it already is.
Besides, how do you really know YOUR way is the ONE and ONLY?
Only if GOD told you personally you would know that, and I somehow doubt he did. Correct me if I am wrong with that assumption.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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adey said Slightly off track but.... ...

I was in general conversation with a muslim colleague (though she prays etc she described herself as not overly religious) today and she asked me if I had been to the new church?
I said "I never go to church, I'm not a christian."
She then asked " but you believe in god, right?"
I replied "No I don't"

Her reply was really strange, she said " oh so you are free from all that"

Strange that she should choose the word 'free', don't you think?

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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salax85 said yea but freedom Adey is ...

yea but freedom Adey is different than orphaned.

 

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realsomeone said Alexa there is nothing more ...

Alexa there is nothing more important then to abide the laws defined by God and the world is already chaos now because people have established false laws by rejecting the call of God.

Seconadly, yes of course i believe mine is correct and i say this because i read the words of God everyday and for me the path forward is clear.

The words of human beings are clear and its meaningless to say i believe one God while not reflecting on the laws he defined. this is what is broken the western society.

 

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mghozlan said adey, can u tell me why u ...

adey, can u tell me why u don't believe in god existence?, PM me why please.

 

adey's picture

adey said realsomeone ...

It's like this, an analogy:
My bike is made up of many parts - frame, handlebars, wheels, chain etc
let's say it has 20 parts - I still have 1 bike not 20 bikes.
And I can't ride my bike to the shop with only the frame.

So christians believe in ONE god not 3 different gods making up one god. god is god and he/she/it is one, but is omnipotent ie can be everywhere at the same time.
(of course I don't believe that for one moment but that's a different topic)

Hope that clears that up.

Peace

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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MR PAUL said Realsom, how can you say this...... ...

"Seconadly, yes of course i believe mine is correct and i say this because i read the words of God everyday and for me the path forward is clear."

This is a bit of an arrogant statement to make.....You are basically saying Islam is right , all other religions, beliefs are false and not worthy, including mine and Adey' s beliefs !

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Alexa said  But realsome, as much as ...

 But realsome, as much as I do understand what you are saying, don't you think we all have the right to believe what is written in the book that our personal faith adheres to?
I find it presumptious to say only one book is right, or only one way is right....how do you know???
For you it might be right,which is very good, but for others it might be wrong, just as you think their way is wrong...do you see what I am getting at?
All that insisting is wrong, THAT is what causes the chaos....without it, we all could concentrate on being good, instead if proving to tohers that they are wrong and we are right!
It is all about priorities!
And looking at our world, I am convinced that our priority as humans is to bring peace......not controversy.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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realsomeone said MR PAUL ...

What you said is correct except the "arrogant"

 

adey's picture

adey said mghozlan ...

LOL I won't pm you if it's all the same thanks.
How long have you got ! :D

Short answer is 'Life, the Universe and Everything.'

Peace

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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realsomeone said i have to catch home now... ...

i have to catch home now... anyway nice converstation with you Alexa, finally God did not subscribed different messages for the people this will confuse.

God's message is clear and its one. and who ever God(Allah) guides is guided and who ever he lets stray is gone. May Allah put us all in the correct path towards peacefull world and better hereafter..Amen.

 

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mghozlan said adey ...

thanks, but i just needed to know more of how u think, sorry for pm thing i thought if i asked u to answe me here, some might attach us both :)

 

adey's picture

adey said No salax ...

she did not say 'lost' from that, but 'FREE' from ALL THAT

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

Alexa's picture

Alexa said   I certainly hope so too ...

  I certainly hope so too ,realsome.

 

 

It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.

Alexa


 

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MR PAUL said Well, you can believe what you like, thats your choice..... ...

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adey's picture

adey said mghozlan ...

No problem.

Just get involved on this forum and you will find out.
Oh and only the insecure attack, those at peace with their religion have no need to attack others, - usually :D

Peace

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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salax85 said she has Speech difficulties ...

she has Speech difficulties i believe. but ur interpretation of her message was biased by ur atheist views lol. but yea dude ofcourse u have ur view and i have mine.

 

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salax85 said may be she wanted to comfort ...

may be she wanted to comfort ur views with the word 'free' showing she has nothing against u for u havin such views... hmm only she can tell.

 

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adey said Exactly Salax nice to do ...

Exactly Salax

nice to do buisness with you

Peace

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

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Dracula said Crawford County READ Program ...

The chart attached it was taken from

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Good job, my advice to buy 1 way ticket and ask for exit permit :)
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Eli Eli Lema Sabachthani?

 

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Gumby said Which raises the big ...

Which raises the big question in my mind. If Islam was necessary because of the corruptions of the earlier monotheistic religions, then wouldn't the final monotheistic religion, B'hai be the ultimate word to correct the earlier corruptions of Islam, Christianity, and Judaism?

 

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casanova said Well, the answer to all the ...

Well, the answer to all the controversies lies in the last column of the sheet…
Islam believes in Christianity because it’s a revised part of the same religion and Christianity does not believe in Islam because they are not changed from the path they have been following before Islam…
Now the point is to follow a religion or listen to your mind…
I must say it in Abraham Lincoln’s words…
When I do good, I feel good and When I do bad, I feel bad and that is my religion…
So my advise to you all is to listen to your mind your heart and your soul, do what is favorable for humanity … your good and bad deeds will be counted coz Hell and heaven is mentioned in both the religions..

“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”

Martin Luther King.

 

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lovinni said Christianity..3 in 1? ...

Christianity..3 in 1? confusing as you say..yes it is but this one of the mysteries. as Christian i believe it by faith. these religions have differences but we all believe in one God. and there is no wrong religion. we just have to respect it and focus what we believe that is close to purity.

I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it.  ~Charles Schulz


 

Aisha-Taweela said Wow wow, ...

It seems the discussions are getting heated up. Well let me give you my version.....
Religion is religion. Like a language. Some speak french, others English and others Chineese and so on. They are different languages, but they are still languages. Correct?
A religion is a religion. Montheism means that we believe in ONE GOD.
God has sent many messengers to us. To let us know what we should do and what we should not do. The first message was the Tables, which was a very limited edition. It was like the first manuals that accompanied our TVs in the 60's. However if you look at the manuals we get with our TV now you can see a big difference in size and contents. That is basically what God has done with the Quran.
God noticed that the messages that were sent thru Abraham, Moses, Jesus and all the other Prophets, some better know than others and there were MANY more,were being changed. This was either done bythe people who relayed the message had forgotten an essential part, misunderstood the main issues or because it suited the rulers/church of that time. Also do not forget the old beliefs and/or customs of the countries, the strong hold the church/temple had over the people. All this along with the limited "instructions/guidance" from the messengers made God send us the last prophet, Mohammed PBUH. Mohammed then, upon instruction from the Angel Gabriel/ Jebriel, had the whole of the message written down into which is called the Book/Quran. One of the stipulations is that every Quran should have the original text in it so that no word/meaning can be changed.
If you read the Quran you will learn a lot about the 3 religions of the "BOOK". Judaism, Christianity and Islam.
I am an ex Christian and must say I learned more about Christianity in the Quran than I had done previously eventhough I spent many years in convent schools.
But because the Quran is such a beautiful book, with so much wisdom, so much good advice and so much information I, after reading it immediately decided to become a muslim.
So again to repeat my message, the 3 religions of the "book" are, or should be the same. But along the way the message has had it's wires crossed.
Aisha-Taweela

 

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Scarlett said realsom...I have several issues with your chart on religions ...

1st one being that Christians believe:

Judaism is a true religion, but with incomplete revelation. Islam is a false religion.

That's just plain hogwash....We respect other religions..we may not believe as you do, but I for one, do not think your religion is false.

2nd: Yahwah is a very old name for God, which most Christians don't use much any more...we have many more for Him: Our Father, God, and the list goes on and on...

3rd: Jesus didn't claim to be talking as God...he gave His word, as his son, to spread the belief. He was the SON of God...never claimed to BE God..and we don't think of Him as such...but in our beliefs, He is the SON of God.

4th: God role in salvation...I've never believed in predestination. A few protestant religions do..such as Presbyterians, but salvation comes from the life you lead and the deeds you do while on this Earth. Christians believe you need to ask God's forgiveness for any wrong doings...so where does predestination come in if you chose how you live you life???

You also stated that:

"true that means they are not sister religions since these people are not practising the original religion... and specially Christians what they are believing is almost atheism therefore, Islam & Christianity are not sisters."

Hmm...WHERE did you get that idea that Christians are believing is almost athesism???? Most Christians live the Word in mind, deed and thought. That would be like me saying that most Muslims with the life they lead, are almost atheists also...the only one who can judge who is a good and religious person is God Himself...so are you putting yourself in the same level with Him???

Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
--Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)

 

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casanova said so the only difference I ...

so the only difference I found in both the religions (Islam & Christianity) is that one believes Jesus (Esa) was the messenger of God sent by god to the womb of Marry (Marium) miraculously and others that he was a Son of God... is this the fact???

“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”

Martin Luther King.

 

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ilovefonzie said ITs Religion....its a way ...

ITs Religion....
its a way of life, not life...use the teachings and live...

correct me if im wrong but , no religion tells u to look down on another...

there is no right religion and no wrong religion....

and realsome can put a sock in it...

there are people who practice religion wrongly no matter which one it is...

whether u consider the women in afghanistan that were opressed by the taliban, to the paedophile priests in america, to the jews in isreal...

all religion teaches u to be at peace with one another and how to live ur life...

my neighbors are muslims, christians, aethists and hindus..i remember we even had a Jew neighbor once (they have moved to Isreal) ..and so far IF we ever had a disagreement we have never used religion to backup any argument.....

Its all the same ... Yahweh, Lord, Allah...

REligion is preached by one man to another...
so there is a high chance of it being upto the persons own interpretation to record what he has understood..all men are different and all men make mistakes.

The Muslim, Jew , Christian scholars dont agree on everything printed.

and with what authority can u say that the Bible is polluted...what baloney....

and if the Christians belive in the Trinity ...so what...
does that make a Muslim pray any less...

and YEAH WHY should the Trinity be explained to anyone...

have u tried to explain why u have Sunni and Shia?
Try explaining which among them is right...They go on fighting among themselves...
If the Quran is so pure..then why the confusion????!!!

EXPLAIN THAT...

 

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salax85 said oh why the fury? for the ...

oh why the fury? for the very first time, miraculously, i felt a peaceful vibe when i read this forum... seems like i truly see a different reflection most of the times here in QL lol.

i heard of bha'ism too and a follower i know actually explained me about it with me doing some research on that religion too.

but why wouldnt Muslims choose to believe that as the next episode of the Truth is because in our Holy Book Qur'an (btw the meaning of Qur'an in english is The Truth) it is clearly mentioned that with it God (Allah is the arabic of God but this word has no gender in it unlike the word God - Goddess, thus is preferred to be used by Muslims) has perfected a religion for mankind to follow and this book is a mercy for each and every soul to come ever after.

It is even mentioned that there shall be no other prophet after Muhammad (p.b.u.h.).

However, Prophet Moses did inform his people (Jews) that a Messenger will be sent among their brothers (Ismael & Isaac are the fathers of the two generations - Israelites & Ismaelites, Muhammad (p.b.u.h.) took birth among Ismaelites)

Lets NOT quarrel on each others belief NOR STOP arguing, this will help us UNDERSTAND what we live for.

 

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adey said A myth has to have a..... ...

myth buster... and here it is .....we sour above such childish squabbles ......we will go forth as you fight about how many angels you can fit on the head of a pin!

"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."

 

salax85's picture

salax85 said lol Adey .. the reason to ...

lol Adey .. the reason to shut the fight... to catch up with worldly wonders left undiscovered... yea rite.. for sure so true.

 

Supernurse's picture

Supernurse said Makes one wonder if its all ...

Makes one wonder if its all worth it.......Realsomeone where did you obtain that informtion? Try Catholisism it probably nearer to Islam than Christianity!

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

 

salax85's picture

salax85 said i thought catholics are ...

i thought catholics are christians, am i wrong?

 

Supernurse's picture

Supernurse said No, no they are way way ...

No, no they are way way different salax.....trust me!

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

 

salax85's picture

salax85 said so what do catholics believe ...

so what do catholics believe in... i thought catholics are a part of christianity and form the major part or something. infact to my knowledge the Vatican is catholic and so is the Pope whom all Christians obey

 

incub0t said plss... ...

Respect each other's beliefs.... In the END we are all gonna be united with GOd

 

Supernurse's picture

Supernurse said I'm not sure exactly but ...

I'm not sure exactly but they follow the Pope, christians do not....they worship the Virgin Mary more than christians.....thats sort of basic but they are different......and they have priests and we have vicars and priests can't marry and have choirboys as companions........

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

 

QT said Its amazing how the same theory could be applied... ...

... to the different sects of Islam! or Christianity! and not just a comparison of the different religions!

If people focused more on what they had in common wouldn't the world be a great place.

All religions teach tolerance, including Islam and it's Qu'ran.

Unfortunately, people just like to make out that what they believe is right and no-one else can be!

What does that tell us about you and your tolerence of others?

I know you think that the things you do and say are right, so I doubt you'll give what I just said any real thought! Shame really!

 

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Supernurse said Lets just all worship the ...

Lets just all worship the sun and be done with this silliness..........

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

 

helenann said geez supernurse i'm ...

do ya think i'm stalkin' ya now? i do agree though at this point. worship the sun publicly and keep the rest in your heart. V & XX

 

Supernurse's picture

Supernurse said lol helenann, I spose these ...

lol helenann, I spose these are the only interesting threads at this godforsaken hour!lol The Sun has my vote!.....

"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)

 

helenann said yeah but the hour ...

here in the US is 7:00p.m. and i like the sun. not many rules goin' on there. LOL

 

danajm said ha ha ...

What is the sun but what might even be smaller than an atom size of an object in our perception when you consider the universe that we know of...funny thing is 70% of the universe we KNOW OF has a material called dark matter and what is the dark matter??? lets just say plainly we dont actually know ANYTHING about it than it just exists!!....Bottom line we are nobody to question the existence of GOD...we are nobody to say we have science when our science cant go a little beyond what meets the eye..if materialism and science is what atheism is based on i hope to god we understand where we really stand not where we like to stand and another thing....we all say theirs only one god lets just stick to praying one and worshipping one and i believe we are all of the same religion then....

 

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azilana7037 said I remember my grandmother once told me ...

RELIGION won't save you from the evils of the world...it's your FAITH in HIM.

My 2 cents worth of view in this matter is: irregardless whether a person practices/follows Christianity, Islam or Judaism, the FACT that there is only ONE GOD that EVERYONE believes in...one should respect the other's beliefs as it is.

"MINE is BETTER than YOURS" mentality is kinda shallow for me as this creates disagreement.


 

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