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can somebody help me with Make-Up ?
I want to learn how to apply choose proper Make-Up.
Are there any women that could help me with these matter ?
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choibabu said
hi, u should visit a good ...hi,
u should visit a good store of cosmetics. there must have some ladies who can help u out. but buy cosmetics only from renowned company.
janeyjaney said
Mac at villagio is good. ...Mac at villagio is good.
Flayrie said
thx, I will try that... well ...thx,
I will try that... well sort of have tried it, but they stick to the products they want to sell... My experience was that the people in the stores do not have much knowledge
about their products and even less fantasy
Flayrie
anahmed said
haye or else you can do one ...haye or else you can do one thing.. take a proper course in applying different kinds of make-up.. there are 2 new really nice places in town, they teach you such stuff..
1. Sehati (salwa road)
2. Beauty Cafe (mamoura area)
i wish to go for it .. but dont have enough time at the moment :'(
may be you can learn from them & give me classes later.
(^_*)
cheers
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
Hi Anahmed, Thanks for these ...Hi Anahmed,
Thanks for these tip, Sehati I have see only from the outside...
But I don't know if you have noticed, I am not female... that does not mean
that I am gay or drag or anything else "weird".
It just happened that we talked about local women completetly overdoing
make-up and not having a clue about these topic.
I love to paint so I thought why not understand more about Make-Up and how
to do it properly... then I might also understand why some people are doing it
the way they are... properly or not.
So for Sehati, I was wondering wether it is a female only place ?
Flayrie
andrez said
i agree...go to any MAC ...i agree...go to any MAC stores and ask them what make-up is good to you and how u should apply it....
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pRaCtIcE mAKeS iT pErFEct!
bUt
nObOdYs pErFEct!
sO why PRACTICE
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pj_2804 said
check online...search in the ...check online...search in the internet..im sure there are some website with free "make-up" lessons...good luck!
be the First ONE to LOVE...~Chiara Lubich
Flayrie said
thx pj.... these was of ...thx pj....
these was of corse my first reaction - google...
There is lots out there, also on the manufacturers web sites.
But I can not get the hang of it ;-)
I can paint for hours... with all kinds of paints, my hand never becomes unsteady,
but doing make-up is making me crazy after about exactly 5min !
So thats why I thought I need more "hands-on" help, from somebody that
most possibly has had the same experiences before.
But at least I know by now, that it is not as easy as it seams... and that I have to
respect women with good make-up even the more.
Flayrie
BF said
My new friend is great at ...My new friend is great at it, but she is in Paris right now.
Stay REAL
Imablue said
anahmed do you have the ...anahmed do you have the contacts for these two places? and do they offer a full course for hair dos as well? I need to send my sister for it. and if you know more places :-) thanks
anahmed said
OoOopsssssssss ... sorry.... ...OoOopsssssssss ... sorry.... it never crossed my mind that you would be a guy... ;-p
I mean, for me its more of a female thingy..
well sorry buddy you really cannot go into Sehati.. :-s
and basically NOT many men here are interested in female painting (^_*).. so i guess the only place you can go for is those cosmetic selling places.. where you can see many female guiding you with their own products...
you can simply pop-up a question (like what goes with this kind/color of dress for such an ocassion) and they will be glad to help you out... all the best..
*_*
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
anahmed said
sure Imablue, here you ...sure Imablue, here you go..
Beauty Cafe
4505091
4505092
Sehati
4683831 Tel
4685851 fax
gm/-a-t-/sehatibeauty.com
www.sehatibeauty.com
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Imablue said
the website doesn't work ...the website doesn't work ana!!! but I will call them :-) They must be Indian beauty centers, aren't they?
thanks once again :-)
Flayrie said
Anahmed, never mind... that ...Anahmed,
never mind... that is why I had to add the clarifiaction...
I am just open to about anything in live... I wanted to fly so I learned it, I wanted to dive so I learned it, I wanted to paint so I bought the tools, I wanted to cook...
Where I come from its a pure female thing too.
To bad about Sehati, I always wondered what it was on the inside !
Se now I have a new problem to think about... how to get inside that place,
because now I really want to know what it is... grrrr..
Flayrie
brandylady said
beauty cafe ...the beauty cafe in the Mamoura area is only for women too.
Just do some experimenting yourself and hope your friends don't walk in while you do ;)
Alexa said
flayrie, you can go ...flayrie, you can go inside Sehati, but only to the ground floor where the shops are.
Upstairs is a gym and spa, only for ladies.
If you are interested in Make up, why don't you look on line?
There are many places where applying make up is explained by example....once you studied that, why don't you experiment on your sisters or cousins?
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Flayrie said
Alexa, I have a sisters and ...Alexa,
I have a sisters and cousins shortage :-).
But thanks for the tip with the ground floor. That demystifies it for me largely.
I will go an have a look and ask... might be a bit more personal there then in viallagio et al.
Flayrie
anahmed said
flayrie: amm online if you ...flayrie:
amm online if you ask.. you can really find nice tutorials on youtube..
and besides it seems you have a passion for learning different stuff and thats reallllyyyyyyyyyyy great..
and as Alexa said: it has a Sulaiman Jewllery shop and a couple of more female stuff shops, though i remember seeing "MEN NOT allowed" on the entrance ..but a trial wont harm... ^_*
Imablue:
i have checked the sehati has a lebanese & Qatari make-up artists didnt see any indian female there.. and same goes for beauty cafe...
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
Anahmed, I will try uTube... ...Anahmed,
I will try uTube... thats a good idea. I will require a computer station in the bathroom ;-)
Have you seen any manequins, or wig holders here in Qatar. I read that they come sometimes in the shape of a human head and are great for practicing.
But I could of corse not find such a shop... in the hairdresser supply stores, in the
al Nasser area for example they did now new anything, not even were to get wigs.
Any clue on that one ?
Thx again and again
Alexa said
Flayrie, you can get wigs ...Flayrie, you can get wigs at one of the small accessory shops in CC, behind Debenhams. The sales person is Filippino and I have seen that he served some male Qatari( I assume they were Qatari) clients...they all bought wigs...oh, and the salesperson seems to have knowledge about make up,since he was wearing plenty of it.
Might be worth a try!
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Flayrie said
uhhhh... thanx Alexa, I am ...uhhhh... thanx Alexa, I am really open to a lot, but what you just described sounds a bit scary, but will give it try anyway :-).
I have seen a young qatarie the other day wearing lipstick and kind of a nailpolish when I went to Qtel, I found that distracting enough. But then on the other hand I am
maybe the wrong person to judge :-)
Alexa said
No need to judge, I ...No need to judge, I think, live and let live, you know...
Anyway, if somebody has the knowledge you require, does it matter who or what he/she is?
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Flayrie said
true enough ad good written. ...true enough ad good written.
anahmed said
You can also get alot of ...You can also get alot of hair pieces in many stores.. they come really cheap too.. from 40 - 50 qrs .. different types, texture and color ..
simply goto..New World Center or yes if you are going to CC.. there is a new store upstairs.. Al-Ansari... they have hair-pieces as well..
for youtube.. you can simply get a i-phone or place your laptop in the bathroom.... just make sure NOT to use water ... ^_*
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
anahmed, I was not looking ...anahmed, I was not looking for the hairpieces them self, that is a bit too far beyond
my scope of interest. But the place Alexa mentioned might have these styrofoam
wig holders, that seam to be perfect to experiment and "paint".
Maybe it is time for a iPhone... was thinking about it for too long now.
Any idea were to get one, except from the greedy sellers here in the classifieds ?
Flayrie
Alexa said
Flayrie, those "heads" ...Flayrie, those "heads" you are looking for...I think I saw them Al Rawnaq next to Souk Jabor. Go upstairs, they should be somewhere in the back.
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Flayrie said
Alexa, I unfortunately do ...Alexa,
I unfortunately do not know the Souk Jabor !
Any hint or GPS coordinates ?
Thx over and over again,
Flayrie
Alexa said
Flayrie, it is easy to ...Flayrie, it is easy to find. Do you know Souk Waqif?
Do you know where al Fanar is?
If so , Souk Jabor is just in front odf the al Fanr building, and Al Rawnaq is beside it.
If you are at Waquif, at the sheesha cafee with the terrace upstairs, just cross the street and walk past the little white mosque ,you will end up in front of Souk Jabor.
If nothing else, get yourself the Marhaba magazine, you will find a souk map in it.
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
Flayrie said
thx, crystal clear now ! ...thx, crystal clear now !
anahmed said
ammm sorry... its just that ...ammm sorry... its just that when you are at work.. you tend to understand things differently.. hehehee...
well i will try and find out few places that sell stuff to the beauty saloons..
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
anahmed, yeah these or ...anahmed, yeah these or fantasy takes over !? Hehehe
Imablue said
yes ana! well, I was reading ...yes ana! well, I was reading the name wrong :-/ but the website doesn't work yet! anyways, I called them :-) merci
anahmed said
Haye Ima...No probs ... ...Haye Ima...No probs ... ^_^
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
Hi Girls ;-), Thanks very ...Hi Girls ;-),
Thanks very much for all the ideas. I went to some of the shops, got some supplies but
realized one crucial thing ! I can not be done !!!
Its not just a matter of the "canvas" and the "paint". Make-Up only works as a whole, beginning with clothing, hair, etc.
And that is just too much for a men to cope with ;-). So I guess I will stick to a piece of paper to sketch around and just keep my eyes open to observe nature.
Flayrie
anahmed said
hehehee... this is what i ...hehehee... this is what i told you in the start..once you go to any sales rep. in a cosmetic shop.. you can simply pop-up a Q... what goes with this color of a dress and this occassion... how to do a small eye so that it looks a bit bigger... how to cover the dark circles under eyes... etc etc.. what kind of hair style.. blah blah..
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
anahmed, yep got that now... ...anahmed, yep got that now... I never looked at it these way. It seams the female world after all has its nice little features. I still find it fascinating, but unless I make a career or sex change it will forever remain hidden from me.
The men's world looks kind of dull now... a couple of pairs of shoes (maximum), pants, shirts and a decent haircut, thats it !
But dont get me wrong... Its not that I hate myself now :-)
hmmm but the thing with the circles under the eye... that I still might have to check back into :-).
Flayrie
Flayrie said
ahnamed, maybe I should ...ahnamed, maybe I should experiment on you... that solves a view of the issues :-)
anahmed said
you will experiment what on ...you will experiment what on me..?? the small eye thingy or the dark circles thingy.. well you cannot try the 1st but sure try the second.. though i am working on my skin tone now.. huh.. tough task...
and i really liked the way you described female world in:
"has its nice little features".
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
buttercupryle said
It depends what brand of ...It depends what brand of make up you want to apply...
but you have to visit some make-up stores first and ask for assistance from the staffs.
"Everything in life is destiny."
nicaq25 said
Flayrie..i admire your ...interest regarding women's beauty stuffs.Strange that you're a guy but...I understand there's an artist in you that you want to explore...colours beyond feminity.
Women's taste on make-up are sometimes very complicating. Like, the shoes match w/ the bag, color of the dress compliments the make-up,the hair-do's, etc.
But this is what puzzled me over the years, most of the designers for women's clothings are men,most hairstylist are men and most plastic surgeon are men.Why's that?
Flayrie said
uhh... don't know yet, what ...uhh... don't know yet, what kind of makeup and style do you have in mind ahnamed ?
What about your skin tone, lighter or darker ? I know that both is desired, depending
what ethnic group you belong too :-).
Let me know if your up to the task being a model.. I guess I just would need the technique, which is more easy to learn on a other being then one self.
And the entire idea would be way less questionable if executed on the "proper" sex :-).
Flayrie
Flayrie said
Nicaq25, "colours beyond ...Nicaq25, "colours beyond feminity" that is a really cool phrase !
Well I guess there is less point for a female to become a makeup artist.
If you have to deal with the ordeal of having too, every day it might become
a bit dull ?
The irony of my story is, that I do not like to dress up my self... I "hate" colors on my
clothing... I am happy with black and white... But when ever I do something, like
creative work, it has to be "fitting". Unfortunately I do not see myself as a canvas so much, hence the dullness in my own appearance.
I believe the real reason for men dominating the fashion world is, that men tend to be more obsessive, were women are "just" passionate !?
Flayrie
nicaq25 said
i like your point flayrie.. ...and I understand you...I got some artists in my family and they may sound weird but sure they know what is art!
anahmed said
flayrie ...Haye well my skin tone is 1-2 grades darker around the chin and of course eye circle :(
It can easily be covered with foundation & concelor ..(I think i ve spelled it wrong)
but me being me.. dont wear make-up at all... so want to fix things in a natural way...
^_^
By the way found reallyyyyyy cooolll videos of smoky eye make-up on youtube.. you must watch them...
well there are make-up tips (specially runway)on MSN as well.. check them out in videos section...
will surely keep you posted...
^_*
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
Ahnamed, watching these ...Ahnamed, watching these things makes me even more crave :-).
I sort of have given up on the thought to master it... I am male and my face looks male,
so all attempts look quiet foolish if you ask me.
Reading and seeing makes wonder, I am fascinated by the possibilities.. and just seeing my own skyn look 10 years younger because of some female skin treatment or concealing product makes me envy your gender :-).
The technology and variety is truly mind blowing. I never thought about it much when I saw my girlfriends utensils floating around the house !
But reading you energetic post makes me want to explore even more.
But as I tried to describe above... a female face is required :-)
Flayrie
anahmed said
hehehee... ...Thats very true .. you can master the art of coloring on a female face in a better way.. because painting on a face thats hard as a rock with daily shaving seems a bit weird...hehehe,,,
I wonder where all those lovely ladies went?? (your girlfriend"S") to practice some of your newly discovered skills... ask them over again.. and give yourself a go...
Are replaced by a wife..?? *_^
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
Flayrie said
hmmm Anhamed, your are nosy ...hmmm Anhamed, your are nosy today :-) !
Well there is one significant women in my life, but no she is not my wife.
And as you might have noticed there is females and females... not all are having
the same artful talents, or patience.
But even in the most open relationship, there is not always room for anything...
When time comes and if required I will share things... but for the time being there
is no need to raise more questions then needed.
Still waiting to give your face a try !
Flayrie
nicaq25 said
Flayrie...there's a fashion show ...in City Center this Friday. Go and observe women doing flairs on dresses, make-ups, shoes & bags. I'm sure it will enhance your creativity the more:)
shenila said
Sorry ...Sorry for coming in late but why in heaven's sake would a man want to learn make-up application tricks when he is not gay or a make-up artist or both as in most cases you will see all male dress designers, beauticians, hair stylists, interior decorators are almost always gay. I wonder why? Sometimes I wonder if male chefs and male nurses are gay as well.
Supernurse said
I think he has explained the ...I think he has explained the reason why....ours is not to question.....
"It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid."
- George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950)
Flayrie said
[AT]nicaq: Thanks for the .../-a-t-/nicaq: Thanks for the typ... will try and make it, but there is also a boat race on the Corniche...
/-a-t-/Shenila: Keep questioning me, I am the first one to do it all day long. But then I guess most f the inventions in our world were made by people started to think out side of the box ?
And for the reason why most designers are men... Again as above. I find that most women are passionate in what they do, but in order to be successful you have to be obsessive... just having a nice design or idea does not the trick.
But then these is also a big weakness of men, including me. I ruined more then one relationship with my obsession in regards to work, a project is finished when it is finished and not when I am happy.
/-a-t-/Supernurse:and again question, if it makes you understand more ! There is not much to hide from, especially my self.
Flayrie
spicemom said
i know of a guy who is ...i know of a guy who is neither a gay nor a make up artist who knows how to apply make up for women (he helped me out a few times when i was promoting AMWAY cosmetics once upon a time)and he did agood job too, apart fr that he is good at doing french tip manicure, also good at applying hair color, and also not bad at giving a haircut (he did it for my son). on the other hand he is also a black belt martial artist, apart fr he also has conducted aerobics and step aerobic classes. so i guess he is wat one might call jack of all trades.......
life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......
Scarlett said
flayrie... ...go to Sephora and observe the make overs...best way to learn...then get a outline drawing of a female face, very simple one...and practice with the makeup on it. Read lots of books on makeup..Bobbi Brown has a great one...The paper drawings are the best way to start out when you need to see how to shade and line to obtain your objectives for correcting facial features. That's what they taught us in esthetics class, before we started in on our human models...If you need any help, I'll be more than happy to help you with what to do. I am trained as a makeup artist, but its not really my calling...but its still fun to goof around with.
Most folks are about as happy as they make up their minds to be.
--Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865)
Flayrie said
Hi Scarlett, thats a very ...Hi Scarlett, thats a very cool idea... I wonder why I did not come with it by my own... since I am engineer and artist :-).
I guess I could make printouts of a human face/photo and start these way.
Beside the missing 3rd dimension it should be working pretty much the same way as in reality.
And I might take up on that offer :-)
Keep ya posted !
Flayrie
Flayrie said
Scarlett, I tried it and it ...Scarlett, I tried it and it works pretty good, well I am not gaining on skills here since I am already pretty proficient in hand sketching. But then another door opened... I can use the "artwork" to be included on 3D models as textures. Now I am able to play with hair and accessories :-) - Barbies world for adults !
I will still take a while to get good results these way, since tinkering with the computer takes more time then the actual paper makeup session.
Flayrie