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10 million baby girls killed
In India over the last twenty years it is estimated that 10 million baby fetuses or girls were killed by their parents. The Indian government has now launched a plan aimed at giving life and hope to these girls and offering their parents an alternative.
The Indian government plans to set up a series of orphanages to raise unwanted baby girls in a bid to halt the widespread practice of aborting female fetuses, according to a senior government official.
Dubbed the "cradle scheme," the plan is an attempt to slow the practice that international groups say has killed more than 10 million female fetuses in the last two decades, leading to an alarming imbalance in the ratio between males and females in India, Renuka Chowdhury, the minister of state for women and child development, told the Press Trust of India news agency in an interview published Sunday.
"What we are saying to the people is have your children, don't kill them. And if you don't want a girl child, leave her to us," Chowdhury told the agency, adding that the government planned to set up a center in each regional district.
"We will bring up the children. But don't kill them because there really is a crisis situation," she said.
On Sunday, police arrested a gynecologist and janitor at a hospital near the central Indian city of Bhopal after the discovery of nearly 400 bones from fetuses and newborns in a pit behind the hospital. It is believed they are the remains of unwanted baby girls.
Many districts in the country of more than 1 billion people routinely report only 800 girls born for every 1,000 boys. According to the latest census figures in India, the number of girls per 1,000 boys declined from 945 to 927 between 1991 and 2001.
I really hope this new scheme works. Over the years India has tried various different ways of stopping this female infanticide such as banning parents from finding out the sex of their child. Nothing has proved to have much success. The importance of having a male child as a future provider is still seen as essential in a country with widespread poverty.
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thexonic said
HOw do u know they were ...HOw do u know they were girls :O
Either way this news sucks... ignorance, when will they get out of those dark ages :(
IF EVERYONE WAS TO TAKE AN EYE FOR AN EYE, THE WHOLE WORLD WOULD'VE BEEN BLIND TODAY - MAHATMA GANDHI
diamond said
Ermm...let's see now...did ...Ermm...let's see now...did you miss biology in school? Medical testing has shown the fetuses and bodies to be female.
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Gypsy said
How sad. Women can be ...How sad. Women can be providers for the family just as easy as men if you let them work.
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ka pepe said
in some part of India "baby ...in some part of India "baby girl"(u will be losing money/properties)-"baby boy"(u will be earning more money/properties)....DOWRY
tyazbeck said
are they planning to have ...are they planning to have boys community :S
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Gypsy said
Won't be getting much of a ...Won't be getting much of a dowry if you don't have any girls to marry your son to.
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diamond said
It appears it's all about ...It appears it's all about survival. India must do better for the high percentage of the population who live in poverty.
The orphanages are bursting with girls too. At least they survived.
More than a quarter of the population live below the poverty threshold which is a pitiful $00.40 per day.
75% of the poor are rural subsistence dwellers with little of no chance for financial improvement.
If ever people were crying out for microcredit, it is these. Wealth distribution is laughable.
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zahra_leila said
whatever, that's rude,yah i ...whatever, that's rude,yah i know some common friend of mine they need to saved some money for their sisters to get married.so there's no choice just to reduce some girls lol.
diamond said
Oh yah, so rude, yah, ...Oh yah, so rude, yah, infanticide is the only way.
Zahra_leila, no more stupid comments please. Why don't you run along and start a thread about favourite ice-cream flavours...oh, yah.
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Gypsy said
Rude? how is this rude? ...Rude? how is this rude?
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diamond said
That's what I'm ...That's what I'm wondering.
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shreeya said
What we Indians need most is ...What we Indians need most is the change in mentality. As long as we don't free ourselves from the pressure to have a boy, no scheme is going to be successful. My mother told me once the turmoil she had gone thru after delivering 3 baby girls one by one. She refused to take any more chance for a boy and it was quite a revolutionary decision, at least some 40 yrs ago.
britexpat said
A sad commentary on life of ...A sad commentary on life of poverty. We should be thankful for what we have. As far as orphanages are concerned, It seems a strange idea. Look what happened in Albania etc. Government run orphanages were run down and the children were open to abuse.
ksarat16 said
India it is Indeed!!! ...Absurd I say, in a world where there is a constant striving for the logic and the rule, Women are Equal to MEN...what forces these people to still think Boys are more than Girls, hell there are girls better in education than the boys...
What India also needs is a Revolutionary Movement in the damn Politics...THe money that has to go to the poor and needy, that starts at the top flows like a River with so many Distributaries that at the end of the Cannal...there s really nothing much left for the actual needy...Damn these politicians, I know Greed is there, but that much, christ buggers get your azzes off the money will ya...
And as well, what good is a guy that cant find a girl to continue life with...and more over before anything else, SOME EDUCATION and SOME TEACHINGS...so people realize that sex is not something merely for money and then get pregnant and then abort the baby, thats so disgusting...
Ch ch ch ch ... Poor India Indeed...!!!
diamond said
Shreeya, I'm very interested ...Shreeya, I'm very interested to hear that. If you don't mind me asking how did your Father feel? How important was it to have had a boy? To my knowledge this is mainly a problem for poorer people who need a boy to provide for them in the future or am I mistaken?
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Gypsy said
It's not just India, it's ...It's not just India, it's the same in China, Korea, and Japan. In fact doctors will no longer tell parents the sex of the child before birth in Korea (and where I'm from in Canada) in case they abort.
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diamond said
So it is cultural as well as ...So it is cultural as well as related to poverty. Having a boy means that he will look after his parents in their old age whereas a daughter will marry and go and live in her in-laws house. I've heard that a lot in countries where Senior Citizens Homes are considered to be abandoning your parents. It is the duty of (usually) the eldest son to take care of his parents.
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Secguy said
Different cultures view ...Different cultures view children in different ways. In the african culture, a girl child is seen as a way of gaining wealth in the form of dowery. In China they are viewed as a burden.
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Oryx said
DG and Gypo ...Thank goodness I was born in a country where girls are valued...
I don't know how lucky I am! I take all this for granted.
There are poor countries where they just would never kill their own children. I think it is more cultural.
I certainly saw no evidence of baby girl killing in Mexico..
shreeya said
DG, ...The poor one's go for more boys in hope that the boy may earn for family and the family may come out of the poverty in future. ;may be a good logic according to them to overcome poverty. What amuses me most is the creamy layer's longing for boy. For rich one's it is the issue of the property inheritance. If it’s a matter of property, then legally male dominates the society.
Secondly, the boy is the one who carries the family name. So there is a stupid yet strong cultural preference for sons, who will carry the family name, inherit ancestral property, care for parents in old age and light their fathers' funeral pyres.
DG, my Father stood firm behind my Mother to take this rather strong decision. Don't know if it is ok to say it here on an open forum, but he was the one who had taken the decision of Vasectomy in order to control future births in family. Believe me, the male, undergoing vasectomy is still a very uncommon in India or elsewhere.
Gypsy said
We have it in Canada among ...We have it in Canada among certain nationalities, that's why revealing the sex of the child before birth has been banned.
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ksarat16 said
Well DG... ...It has got to do more with the Educational UN-Awareness and ofcourse the BIG BIG CULTURE Drive...which is proven wrong in this day age...
I mean, it doesnt matter really who needs to take care of whom, they just get taken care off, but still under that Black Cloud of belief, that our Son will take care of us, Daughter no...thats crap...and I think people really need to start believing in their children,
But yes one thing, getting a Daughter married is more expensive which is again a reason why a boy is looked as an extra source of Income...so there you go, we come back to the same old spot again...
shreeya said
But KSA, this is not the ...But KSA, this is not the justification for killing the unborn or newborn girls. I still remember the disgustfully horrifying images of three newborn girls still with their umbilical cords, floating in nalah.
Gumby said
I would disagree extremely ...I would disagree extremely strongly that it is common in Japan, at least among anyone under the age of 80.
I've been struck by the number of very well-educated, financially successful Indian immigrants in Canada who express a preference for baby boys. The cultural desire for boys runs very deep.
diamond said
Shreeya and KSA, very ...Shreeya and KSA, very interested to read your insights. Thanks. Perhaps because the killing of baby girls has become so prevalent it is seen as 'the thing to do'. I do wonder aboout the psychological impact on the nation of girls, growing up knowing that a boy is preferred over a girl, who can often be regarded as a burden.
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Gypsy said
I think it would create a ...I think it would create a bit of an inferiority complex. I know from my time in Korea that in the past(and still very much now) the only point of a woman was to give birth to a boy. If she failed to do that, she failed her only real duty.
I went to a museum once that was basically all about how important it is to have a boy, how to ensure that you get pregnant with one, how to give birth to him properly, how to raise him, educate him, marry him off and ensure grandsons.
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shreeya said
Gypsy... ...Inferiority complex or just a neutral feeling....point to think. There is this feeling in most of the girls that they have to accept the situation as it is...More over we are having some festival in which a girl ties a band on Bro's wrist to show her affection and in return the brother gives her a promise that he will take care of her and will be her 'security guard' the entire life. So, most of the girls also think that they must have a brother. And the custom continues....
Gypsy said
I suppose if everyone thinks ...I suppose if everyone thinks it and you're raised thinking it, you probably do feel neutral about it.
Come to think of it actually, even in Western society there is still a lot of pressure to have a boy. My cousin's wife just gave birth to their second girl, and they were both disappointed because he really wants a boy.
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Oryx said
Gypsy ...Aren't we lucky?
Imagine being brought up to believe that!
I was brought up in an era of 'girl power'... I lack not 1% confidence in my abilities to go anywhere - acheive anything - and actually think boys are lesser on certain scales:
a) pain threshold
b) emotional IQ
shreeya said
Gypsy... ...But definitely they won't kill her...I hope....and I hope one day the situation 'll be different in India too.
Gypsy said
I can't say with 100% ...I can't say with 100% certainty that I was raised in an era or culture of girl power Oryx, and I think that the only reason now that I have the job and education I do have, and have travelled like I have is because my father instilled such a sense of independence in me and never treated me like a "girl." If it was up to my mother and the rest of the society I grew up in I'd be barefoot and pregnant right now, like almost 100% of the girls I graduated high school with (most were married by 23/24 and are on their second or third child).
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Mercia said
I saw a programme about ...I saw a programme about China and their one child policy, the doctor in one village is against this police and gave all the women wanting to get pregnant Clomid. The policy states that you can only give birth once, so the following year they had multiple births, woman having twins, triplets and quads, the government couldnt do anything to them as they had only one birth. Clever gyne!!
shreeya said
Ohhh, well, don't think that ...Ohhh, well, don't think that all girls are killed in India. There are many nice parents as of mine. Situation is changing definitely but the process is very very slow....
Gypsy said
No Shreeya, they won't kill ...No Shreeya, they won't kill her...but I can't help but wonder what they would have done if they'd been told the child's sex before birth. :S
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Andrews said
The most disgusting thing is ...The most disgusting thing is that middle class is doing this type of nasty acts not the poor people ( becos they canot afford the cost of scanning and abortion)
Doing Sex determination test is illegal in India. But who cares..
DohaSteve said
The answer is simple ------ ...Stop churning out babies
The earth's resources are strained as it is; water, basic foodstuff, and energy are all being stretched to breaking point.
What is needed is a cultural change - not easy, but a hard fact: the world's population is becoming too much for mother earth to provide for us. Give her a break.
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Oryx said
Gypo ...My father never wanted me to be dependent on a man...
education education education
Mrs thatcher was in power (for better for worse she was a woman and she was in charge)
I went to an all girls school....
No brothers
Boys / male values were trivial or non-existent in my world... the role models were women at the time.
Andrews said
One of my friend said ...One of my friend said jokingly.. these guys wont allow girl children to b borne.. but once they born and attained puberty..den always behind them
Gypsy said
Can't say as I had any ...Can't say as I had any strong female role models growing up. Even now, there's the sense that I should be married now and popping out kiddies and that I'm not fullfilling my life's mission.
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Oryx said
DS - Call the Vatican ...Do you mind calling up the Vatican?
Ask them to change a couple of points about their doctrine:
a) nooky is not just for procreation but for pleasure too
b) thus contraception is acceptable and should be made widely available
diamond said
Andrews, people in poverty ...Andrews, people in poverty are doing this too. They can't afford or have no access to scans or abortions so they give birth to a baby girl, then go and bury her (often alive) in a field.
The 'Cradles Scheme' is being implemented in order to provide a safe haven for baby girls to be placed and subsequently live in orphanages.
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someonenew said
Bless my mom! It seems when ...Bless my mom! It seems when my brother was born(he's older than me and they had not revealed the sex of the baby) the nurse asked my mom if she wanted a boy or girl and she said she wanted a girl! She said girls are less troublesome and that when i'm grown up i will help her... its true thats what she said and the only reason they had a second child(ME ME ME ME) was becasue they wanted a girl. Aparently in my husband's case he was so troublesome that his parents thought they might as well have a girl who'll be nice and sweet and had his sister after 8 years.
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Alexa said
&nb The idea of gaining ...The idea of gaining material wealth through children is very alien to me.....should we, as parents, not do all we can to give to our children, not vice versa?
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
baedaebok said
Even in Korea ...In Korea, some of my female friends had names like "NamSeo". This male name shows that the parents wanted a son instead of getting a daughter. "Nam" means man in Korean.
dw is somewhat shunned by her mother. But when it comes to dw's brother, the mother really gives him TLC: pays for hise ducation (all the way to doctorate), provides a room for him and his future wife, and dotes over him whenever he visits.
shreeya said
Gypsy, ...Moreover, when choosing a girl for their beloved son, some people tend not to choose her from 'all daughters family' in a belief that the girl from such family would be able to produce more and more girls and may not give them a much desired 'Name bearer'. Woman with all daughters is a thing to pity. That's why when I gave birth to my baby and when my Mother found out that it's a boy...her first words were,"Thank God, now you don't have to go thru all the ordeal.." , despite the fact that my family is really a nice one, she just couldn't help saying this.
So, just imagine how deeply the urge for boy is rooted in the society. Bearing a boy is just like getting a 'clean cheat' from the society....LOL
DohaSteve said
Oryx, I just tried calling the Vatican ...... but I got an answering service
'allo, dees eeza da vateecan. Eefa you wanna leave a message for-a da Holy Father, press-a 1; eefa you wanna book-a da private room for parties, press-a 2; eefa you wanna make a comment about-a da policy on-a da nooky, hang up-a da phone coz we ain't a-gonna do nutting.
I tried and failed. Abject apologies.
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Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
diamond said
Alexa, that is my mindset ...Alexa, that is my mindset too. But for people in poverty this may be the only way for them to make their lives a little easier in terms of survival. This must mean tremendous pressure for the boy methinks.
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Gypsy said
Sheerya, I can't believe ...Sheerya, I can't believe that people still think it's the womans fault for giving birth to a girl! After all it's the man who needs to provide the y cromosome!
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someonenew said
Well I feel the attitude is ...Well I feel the attitude is changing in India... I mean at least in South India.
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someonenew said
But then again for really ...But then again for really poor people a girl is still a burden because of the getting her married thingy. In India if a girl is unmarried there's definitely a problem and the society will look down on u and if its a guy who's 40 and unmarried its OK.
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diamond said
I think the government ought ...I think the government ought to do more to get rid of the ridiculous dowry system. That would significantly reduce or stop the female infanticide.
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shreeya said
Y chromosome, WTF....the ...Y chromosome, WTF....the children are God's gift...LOL
someonenew said
Oh its not called dowry ...Oh its not called dowry anymore. Its unofficially called "gift from parents" I wonder how you can demand for gifts!!!
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someonenew said
Ok real incident ...In India we have Sunday classifieds where matrimonials(Bride wanted/Groom wanted) is a huge section. So some people advertise for their daughters/sons. So my fiend's dad did that for her. Aparently one idiot called up and asked about how much they will give? I'm serious these were his exact words(in another language ofcourse)-"How much will you give?" . My friends dad told him that he must've gotten the wrong number that he does not have any cattle for sale and hung up!!!
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shreeya said
Someonenew... ...It is definitely changing in South India and the reason behind is the education only....Great!!! Can't imagine as how long it would take to spread the awareness in other parts to...
Alexa said
From what I have gathered ...From what I have gathered from this thread so far, is that it all comes down to culture . It seems , that not only poor and uneducated people view things in this ,IMHO, warped way,which turns out to be dangerous and certainly not thought through.I also see a generous portion of selfishness in in all this.
So, what can be done to remedy this way of thinking?
It helps to USE the brain, as it is given to you not only for balance.
Alexa
tyazbeck said
hope it will not take long ...hope it will not take long shreeya
otherwise i guess ull be facing a huge problem in indian sex balance
Gypsy said
They already have a problem ...They already have a problem with this in china, 119 men/100 women ratio. Most of the girls are in the country as well and are now being stolen or sold into slavery in the cities to meet the demand for women.
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someonenew said
Education. There are lots of ...Education. There are lots of uneducated middle class families in India who have gotten rich becasue of the real estate boom(and other ways). No matter how much money they have, they will behave like uneducated villagers. Lots of organisation working on educating the poor but what do we do with these middle class morons???
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Andrews said
Things are not worse atleast ...Things are not worse atleast in kerala..There female:male ratio is positive and better than any developed country.
someonenew said
Kerala is the only state in ...Kerala is the only state in India that has 100% literacy
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deji said
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE ...MY HEART GOES OUT TO THOSE INNOCENT FOETUSES... but... change.
Oryx said
The Vactican ...thanks for trying anyway Doha Steve...
Well it is the only independent state in the world that has no women living there!
At least they enjoy a tipple.
Winn said
yeah Andrews... ...the ratio in Keral is 1058 females to 1000 males... n actually if at all the ratio has tipped in the last 10 yrs it has been in favor of women .
Haryana is said to have the least ratio with aound 860 women/1000 men.
someonenew: Literacy is defenitely one major factor...
another factor is the matrifocal or matrilinear mode of inheritance which has been quite popular there.
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zahra_leila said
because in kerala 70% are ...because in kerala 70% are muslims....they value the girls.
someonenew said
Zahra_leila are u sure about ...Zahra_leila are u sure about that? I dont think that is true. Do you have a reference for that statement?
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someonenew said
I thought muslims were a ...I thought muslims were a minority in Kerala.
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Smelly_Indian_Coolie said
India Shining ...Diamond Girl,
67 comments later, in the absence of other stellar and sensible voices of indignation, I am forced to inform you that this topic is an affront on India’s National Pride. We are a country with double digit Growth Rate; India is SHINING. On behalf of that elusive creature called the Common Man in India, I would like to personally take this opportunity to express my disapproval and outrage on your efforts to magnify a small issue, and thereby malign my Motherland. Also, in your refusal to address all the other faults of all the other countries in the world, you have lost all credibility. Why are you targeting India? What about the atrocities committed by various South American dictators? What about Global Warming, rising fuel prices, natural calamities in Burma and China, Racial Discrimination in USA and all of Europe? Oh, and how dare you not discuss about the inflation and driving in Qatar, eh? Cat got your tongue? Oh, and please don’t try to impress me with mere facts, I can see that our Motherland is great with double digit growth, Business Process Outsourcing and Software Revolution. All the Indians on this thread who agreed with you are TRAITORS! As for Westerners like Alexa, Oryx, Gypsy and such: Tradition, Culture, Family Values, Ancient Civilization; do you need more evidence of our superiority?
Smelly_Indian_Coolie said
70 percent Muslims ...Zahra_Leila,
You're talking about Sudan or may be even Brunei; minor mistake, but, spot on otherwise.
Keep up the good work.
Alexa said
Smelly, I am from the ...Smelly, I am from the Western Sahara, as per my profile......:)
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Alexa
Smelly_Indian_Coolie said
Alexa, I can smell a ...Alexa,
I can smell a Capitalist from miles away. You do not fool me for a moment. Leave our 20 Million year old democratic civilization alone.
Alexa said
I am a desert ...I am a desert capitalist....and as such I have no interest in humid meddelings....
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Alexa
someonenew said
Hey Smelly Indian Coolie.. ...Hey Smelly Indian Coolie.. pretty hypocritical name considering what you've just posted!
DG was posting an article she read and wanted others to read too... like so many other articles others posted about differnt countires..honour killings in Pakistan, Child marriages in UK, etc. I dont think you have to take it personally. Its just a post. So chill Ok.
Besides never seen you around when the the glory of India was discussed.
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shreeya said
Someonenew, This is what we ...Someonenew,
This is what we call the 'Smelly sarcasm'...LOL..Try search on him. And one more thing, he might be smelly and he might be coolie too...he can be anything but Indian....lol
Alexa said
Shreeya, why do you think ...Shreeya, why do you think Smelly is not Indian?
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Alexa
DohaSteve said
Smelly, I can insult any nationality ........ given half a chance and the merest hint of encouragement. If you tell us your true nationality, I promise to hurl insults and dig up obscure facts to bolster an otherwise weak and senseless point of view. That should suit you just fine.
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Son, if you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers. - Homer Simpson
diamond said
Oh, Smelly, sorry for not ...Oh, Smelly, sorry for not including all the other faults of all the other countries in the world. That was so remiss of me.
If, as you say, this topic is an affront on Indian National Pride, perhaps you could help to do something about it.
Luckily, I don't take you seriously at all. I knnow tongue-in-cheek when I see it ;)
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someonenew said
I think Smelly is ...I think Smelly is Indian...
I dream of a better tomorrow where Chickens can cross the Road without having their motives questioned - Unknown
Winn said
Zahra Leila...the percentage ...Zahra Leila...the percentage of muslims in Kerala is 24.7
as per 2001 census
Who dares,wins!
Smelly_Indian_Coolie said
Someonenew, DohaSteve: I was ...Someonenew, DohaSteve: I was merely pointing out that this discussion hadn’t descended into a mush of denial and tangential counter arguments as it sometimes does on QL.
Shreeya: I’m as Indian (Malayali) as my mom’s Puttu and Kadala.
Note to self: My username does seem to upset a lot of people; perhaps I should change it…
diamond said
I think you were doing a bit ...I think you were doing a bit more than that. You were personally chastising me for creating the thread, albeit with attempted humour. A lot of people won't 'get' your sense of humour BTW.
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Alexa said
Smelly, I am glad you are ...Smelly, I am glad you are back!
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Alexa
Tigasin321 said
Smelly rocks ...He is the most erudite and talented contributor on QL. I don't know or care what nationality he is but I do hope that he is a journalist because he writes beautifully and illustrates his points with humor and pathos.
I want to read more from the Smelly man.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
shreeya said
Well, Smelly, I think ...Well, Smelly,
I think sometimes back in some thread somebody is saying that you are not an Indian because of your rather witty sarcastic (British?)way of writing. So I said so. Well, I am more than happy to hear it from horse's mouth that you indeed are...
We are having such serious issues and no point in denying it.....(Dare talk about our Patented Driving Style and I won't let you go unscratched!!!...lol..)