Social discrimination in Qatar!

sad but true !!!

Welcome to the Gulf my friend

If QL policy would censor the report of facts, aiming to bring justice to enslaved people, it would be contributing for problem and as such, accounted for.

Please feel free to express your views. Maybe if we all acknowldge and recognize the sad truth that surrounds us, something will eventually change!

If this country does get to host Olympics 2016 (I seriously doubt it anyway), can you picture the march past during the opening ceremony not being in alphabetical order of names of countries but by the skin colour according to nationalities? I wonder which country will be coming in last?
What happened in The Centre shopping mall today is a terrible shame and definitely calls for some soul searching by the people of Qatar.

But locals here have a skewed perception towards the western skin..... U r learning.....Apply balms and go to spas get urself white from head to toe.....

All they get is one day off, that too is ruined how cruel
Those hands who built the structure are now strangers

Fully agree with you dude.

But i really need to hear from any of the people who are seen as moderators or owners of this forum.

Can truth be said here??????????????????

Fat Cat,

Do u mean rest of the world is rich so in other countries they allow everybody to snake in their malls...????

“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”

Martin Luther King.

Personally, i think theres no harm in such a policy. It may have the rationale to spare the families from the stalkers, ofcource, not every single does that but still, sometimes you have to choose the lesser damaging option.

But this is not just about that. The real problem is the 'exceptions' mentioned in this thread. Its ok if a rule is made and enforced. Its their place, so they can make rules for it and anyone who wants to visit has to obey those rules.

Same way for this forum. I respect QL and its rules. I am just a member here. So i'll post my thoughts in detail only after hearing from the moderators that truth can be said here regardless of who it puts in bad light.

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most of the employees go there for electronics and they have limited time for purchase. Is there any harm if group eats in food court

I have not lived in every country, so I would not know if there are policies like this one elsewhere.

I know that if you have thousands of people trying to go in to a shopping mall which has limited space for walking, it will be uncorfotable for everyone.

Plus, there's the issue of staring. I will not walk, for example, at the National area alone cos I don't like being stared at. And I won't go to City Centre if it's going to be remotely like the National area.

Sorry guys, I know it's harsh, but I do like City Centre's policy. If you guys were females you'd understand.

To justify this in terms of "spending power' is ridiculous. How can you assume that the labourers wont spend money their reagrdless of the amount of money they may spend on an item. How can you assume families may spend more, some are their just to get away from home. Either way its a stupid policy that should be stopped. No one is better than the other. These labourers have contributed a lot to Qatar and should be treated with respect and preventing them for the sake of "family day is just a slap in the face, especially when other nationalites are walking in alone..

so its better to avoid Friday for shopping. Let them enjoy one day atleast. We can always shop on Saturday

... first time in Villagio's history there was no parking there ...i guess all fellows came to villagio instead of CC...it was a lot of big groups of men around..to be honest, it's a bit scary when i see group of men..there is something weird in gathering of so many men together in the group...

yeah casanova why dont we just build a place for them and call it labourers Zoo, that way they wont be able to mix with the rest of humanity, thats solves everything...

Fatcat, I’m not a labourer but if you will come in front of me, ill surely stare at you...
Not because you are too good to look at but because you are simply racists…

“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”

Martin Luther King.

The reason the the mall here is economics - pure and simple. Not to mention legal problems as well. If an unsupervised child gets hurt while on the premises....well the parents run off to the lawyer.

Hopefully, some of the reporters from the press that read this site will take hold of this issue.

Perhaps if more people speak out about these types of problems for the laborers something will happen. Qatar does not want or need bad publicity as it goes for the 2016 Olympics.

Maybe one day someone who really cares will step up for these guys.

Lisa

Yep Its pretty sad. If you do not want to get stared at why do you not spend your time in Ritz or some other place. Its a bloody mall everyone should be allowed.Common Sense. Obviously you can kick out ppl if u c them misbehaving or whatever. Labourers are even allowed in Hotels but Ihve never seen them in my numerous visits to Ritz or Ramada. Therefor they don't just go to CC to chill out, they're also buying stuff. They might not be buying 300QR worth of Grocery so we just don't allow them. Thats the way to go right?

Fatcat, i cant control peoples actions, whether they stare or not, has nothing to do with enjoying being stared out, the point is that its not just the labourers who stare, most people stare, hence why only segragate them...its totally unfair and inhumane...

Nadt, precisely because I cannot control people's actions I don't go to places I know I'll feel uncomfortable. I will not walk in to a bar alone in this country. And I will not go to City Centre on a Friday unless it's been declared family day.

I think everyone should wait and see if this happens again next Friday. If it does then perhaps you guys could organize a write in to the newspapers. I don't know if that is possible or not in Qatar but it would be worth a shot.

I am sure that not everyone is aware that this occured at CC today. If it happens again, then take some action.

Lisa

ihve been here since 9 yrs...cc opened bout 5-6yrs back...it happens nrly every friday since last 2-3 yrs...im a 16/17yr old...im indian...but im pretty well off...ihve nvr been stopped with or without my family being with me

to work in this country and get things done.

this is ridiculous to hear that there is a partiality among the expatriates....

I DONT SUPPORT THIS DECISION OF CITY CENTER....

NO MATTER WHAT REASON THEY SAY...

can i ask you guys a doubt. is the management of CC some western guy...

YOU DONT KNOW ME, DONT EVEN TRY !!!

New

Folks, this is not about family day, business sense, or labour.

in anycase, like i said, no problem in family day, but what nic has pointed out is a case of clear racism (unless we got our definitions wrong)

I witnessed racism first hand the other day

at khalifa stadium.

There were a lot of people (all with valid tickets mind you) trying to get inside but the gates were closed because apparently the stadium was full. This is also
understandable, they have no choice when its full. A stadium in any other country would have done the same thing. May be a management problem but this thread is not about complaining about oversold tickets.

Then to my shock, one of the guards stepped forward and pointed to four blokes and invited them in. The only difference between them and the 100 people at that gate was skin color.

A one off case may be overlooked as a a favor for a friend or recognizing someone in the crowd. Obviously this is also not correct but happens everywhere.
But noooo....

At the next gate, the crowd (all standing peacefully), at the front of the line were 2 ladies with their kids. At the far right side, was another girl with two friends. Suddenly, someone in a white robe came from behind and
asked the guards to let the girl on right and her companions in. If they were following a policy of allowing only families inside, then that is fine too but nah.... the family right in front of the gate was denied entry while the girl from the far side was allowed in.

Guess what was different... skin color.

There were a couple of more such examples

that i saw myself. But it pains me just to

think about it. This is a country i love

(along with my homeland) and it would give me

heartache if this country was to descend into

something so archaic.

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its pretty conspicous who they let in and who they dont...often its not the single labourers who STARE many others do it

Well, we do not have masses of single guys flooding our malls. If we did and it started hurting the business, make no mistake, management would do something about it, just like City Centre does.

How come there aren't any Qataris on Star Trek?

Answer:
They don't work in the future, either.

no one frequents that area unless someone wants to buy bengali vegetables. Its crowded only on Friday (trend started in 1980)

Your turn!

Pranay91, you clearly have a lot more insight in to City Centre's researches than we do, so who am I to argue with you.

Dracula, grow up.

plus if staring is rlly a big problem why on earth are there so many western teenage girls. Me and my friends which include western girls go to CC very often...they nvr hve a problem...they dont care if there are labourers there. Thats the last thing they give a [this post has broken our guidelines by using bad language - you will be removed from QL if this continues] about. Maybe its more self concious women who think they are attractive and very stare relucatant that complain.

I had heated argument with the security guard who tried to stop two Indian men at the entrance.
I went to city center with my family, when we approached the entrance, 2 Arab men entered without families, i stopped for few secs to see if the security is allowing everyone or not ! Anyhow, these two Indians came and security immediately stopped them at the gate,,, they were bit surprised that why security stopped them ! later security guard told them to read the notice board where it was mentioned "FAMILY DAY". Both men were about to leave I intervene and asked the security guy that why did he allow those 2 Arab men to enter just now ??
He said to me "They are Qataris" I told him that yesterday i called your City Center office and they confirmed to me that it is only for Families and not single man (Local or Expat) will be allowed.
Security said that he don't know anything but he cannot stopped them ... I asked him simple question 'How he is sure that those men were Qataris?' He never checked their IDs ... they could be any Arab or may be non-Arab and wearing Arabic attire ?

In short I took both Indians with me inside City Center with my family. By the way both Indians were working for a Multinational Company in Doha as Accountant ;-)

Ah Also, forget to mention that when we entered the city center we noticed there were already several bachelor men in the city center !!! It was no special day for families.

I will call City Centre Administration tomorrow. Lets see what they say !!!

fatcat...its not research its common sense... u can SEE it...shops in CC are always full of buyers whether or not its family day or bachelors day...how can u say women dont come to cc coz they will be stared at...it might only be a small proportion who actually give a [this post has broken our guidelines by using bad language - you will be removed from QL if this continues]

Good Work Speed....

“Our scientific power has outrun our spiritual power. We have guided missiles and misguided men.”

Martin Luther King.

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Speed, not only today but yesterday as well, all day City Centre was full of single men... Not only Qataris but every nationality. They don't seem to stick to the rules anyway.

stared at is rampant in every country in the world ..

I have a question for ALL the women here ..no offnece meant ..how did you know the guys were all looking at you unless you looked at each one of them ...

I have been there with my family and we dont just bother ..they are poor labourers having their day out ..

Dracula, you make too many assumptions without knowing me. I will not fall in to this trap, dude, forget it.
Piece of advice, not always people are what you want/expect them to be. Don't assume things without knowing the person first. Don't make any assumptions about me, I can assure you you'll be wrong 99% of the times.

Lazydude, I never normally noticed as I don't look at people at malls, until one day I decided to wear a dress, not revealing at all, it had long sleeves and the length was below my knee. I'm telling you, I've never felt so uncomfortable. The only way I wouldn't have noticed was if I were blind!

I normally don't go to city center with my family during weekends.. it is due to traffic heavy traffic and also too crowded in the city center ..
Today i went with the expectations that traffic will be bit less and only families will be in the center but to my surprise today i notice more single men then and traffic was worst !

Yes you are right there were single men from all nationalities ;-o

I felt like 'City Center' made a joke of us ! It was really very embarrassing ...

new Policy: I aint going to CC i hve too many women STARING at me. They even pass lewd comments at me.

cpostier..Have you ever wondered why these labourers eat on the streets, maybe its because the dont have a lunch room with tea and coffee facilties...better yet, dont give them a lunch hour in addition to the ban.

As for the rubbish have you been to the Corniche playgrounds, "families throwing their rubbish on the floor right next to the rubbish bin, lets ban families from their too..

avoid the CC on fridays ..let the singles do their shopping we can then go on Saturday ..unless as usual we want everything ..to benefit ourselves !!!

well im sure the STARING can make u run

im f'in 16 u want me to act like u?