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Becoming a Christian
So – what can you do to gain eternity from Christ? It’s simple …
Recognize that you are a sinner and confess your sin
No matter how good we try to be, we have all lived sinful lives. Romans 3:23 says that “all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.” ALL of us. That means you.
It also tells us that the penalty for sin is death.
So the starting point is to admit your sin and sinful nature.
Acknowledge that you can’t save yourself
Is there hope? Is there a way to become clean in the sight of God? As we just read, all have sinned. Thankfully, God has provided a blessed alternative to death! John 3:16 says that “God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but eternal life.”
But, salvation doesn’t come as a result of your efforts, good deeds, or stellar personality. There is nothing you can do to gain salvation – it’s a gift from God based on His love and mercy.
He saved us, not on the basis of deeds which we have done in righteousness, but according to His mercy, by the washing of regeneration and renewing by the Holy Spirit.
(Titus 3:5) (NAS)
For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; not as a result of works, so that no one may boast.
(Ephesians 2:8-9) (NAS)
Recognize Christ’s Payment
So, you can’t save yourself but Jesus can! Jesus Christ, God’s son, was the perfect sacrifice. He came to earth, lived as a man, died on the cross, and conquered death by being raised from the grave on third day. His death was payment for our sins.
But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. (Romans 5:8) (NAS)
The next step is believing – not just that Christ died, but that He died for YOU.
Accept Christ as Your Personal Savior
His death was the payment, but you must believe in Him and accept His forgiveness.
They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.” (Acts 16:31) (NAS)
For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. (Romans 6:23) (NAS)
By accepting these truths and who Jesus Christ is, you can find eternal security. Accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior by sincerely praying …
Jesus, I know I am a sinner and that there is nothing I can do to gain my own salvation. I believe you died for me personally, and that through faith in what you did for me on the cross and through your resurrection, I am saved.
I want to turn from my sin and I ask you to become Lord and savior of my life. From this day forward, I will follow You. Thank You, Father, for saving me. Amen.
If you just prayed this prayer, you now have the Holy Spirit living in you! You can be sure that Christ has forgiven you and that you will spend eternity with Him in Heaven.
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness (1 John 1:9) (NKJV)
Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. (Romans 8:1) (NAS)
Therefore, having been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. (Romans 5:1) (NAS)
The next step: Put your faith into action! Tell someone about your decision to follow Christ and get involved in a local church. Spend time with God by praying and reading your Bible. The book of John and the book of Romans, both in the New Testament, are great places to start reading in new journey of faith.
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Aisha said
interesting :-) ...Thanks, christian.
Sputnik said
Opinion ...Whats the whole purpose of changing ones faith? It reflects a lack of self-confidence in oneself? Whats ur opinion?
Sputnik said
Opinion ...Whats the whole purpose of changing ones faith? It reflects a lack of self-confidence in oneself? Whats ur opinion? And moreover does the west really follow the principles laid down in christianity? Comment
Gypsy said
I'm not a sinner and I don't ...I'm not a sinner and I don't need to be saved thank you. However I think you need to be saved from your own stupidty.
Sputnik, number 1: Christianity is not just in the West.
number 2: Do Muslims really follow the tenants of Islam in the Middle East, not really, but they like to pretend.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
Sputnik said
Foolish criticism ...My dear gypsy christians and muslims are there everywhere in the world.. Although i agree to the fact that not all muslims follow it but the number who do abide by some principles outnumber the proportion in the west....
Try to understand the question first before answering them....
Stop being overcritical.. and accpt facts....
Gypsy said
How do you know? Have you ...How do you know? Have you spoken to a lot of Christians in the West? No, you haven't. I would say more Christians in the West follow the tenants of their religion much more faithfully than Muslims here. The Ten commandments are a lot easier to follow then the Quran.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
randr88 said
why don't we talk about regular things and not religion here? ...see above
Gypsy said
Because this post is about ...Because this post is about religion. That's just a guess though.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
the truth 321 said
Bored... ...of people discussing religion on here.
My opinion of QL used to be of a helpful site, with hints tips, places to go and things to do.
As per Qataris post on dont bother to try and convert people, this is fast turning into "My Dad is bigger than your Dad" kind of situation. Yes we are all proud of our religion and believe that we are the champion/advocate for such...great be that, but be that in your own personal (again the key word being PERSONAL) world.
If you try and convert people you have lost the art of being an advocate and champion for your religion, by all means educate if asked a question on your chosen belief (however wouldnt personally believe in any book written hundreds of years after the supposed facts based on hear say and rumours).
We came we saw we were Qatarized
randr88 said
for the record ...let me say that my dad is not bigger than your dad......
Gypsy said
My Dad is kind of short ...My Dad is kind of short actually. :P
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
randr88 said
you are a copy cat gypsy ...see above
cjpdad27 said
Yes truth ...Yes truth123 you are correct. The religion stuff is boring me as well.
Gypsy said
Sorry Rander! I bow to your ...Sorry Rander! I bow to your quicker response skills. :D
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
Gypsy said
Rander and Truth ...YOu mean these posts aren't filling you with the desire to convert!! You don't feel yourselves being touched by the Holy word of God. Shame Shame. :P
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
Sputnik said
Fundamentalism ...Thais proves it gypsy u too are a religious fanatic imposing christianity on others...
First the Ban and then entry of fanatics
Gypsy said
There is no Ban. And how am ...There is no Ban. And how am I trying to impose Christianity? I'm not Christian.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
cjpdad27 said
What the... ...When did you promote Christianity Gypsy? I don't remember that. I guess I will have to read over it again. Damn, my attention span!!
Gypsy said
Yes Cjpdad27, I love ...Yes Cjpdad27, I love promoting Christianity, I can't be bothered to follow it myself, but I would like others too. Just the kind of person I am. :D
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
cjpdad27 said
Well ...Well you're just a hypocrite aren't you? LOL
rayyz said
Gypsy & few others ...I expected a much harder response from you just like the way you did for the other Islamic threads. All this while I've kept a lid on this topic, but I guess its about time to speak
Didn't actually expect you to say whether ten commandments of christianity are better to understand than Islam.
Whatever happened to your outspoken criticism on religious trolls and all the blah blah being posted here?
Mr. Christian, I've got two words for you. GET LOST! Please keep your faith with you and I am genunely not interested in your verbal diarrhoea .
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Sputnik said
Man thats cool ...Finally rayzz agreed too on the verbal diarohhea ..... oh i wud like to meet u in person....
Aisha said
guys ...Please check qatari's latest post in the front page.
Gypsy said
Rayyz ...Firstly, what I said was "The Ten commandments are a lot easier to follow then the Quran." If someone wants to disagree with me and say the Quran is a piece of cake to follow, then by all means please do. I for one would find it difficult not to drink, eat pork, pray five times a day and wear hijab. But I can't speak for others. And it was in response to Sputnik, not this post.
This post is just more religions drivel and nonesense, and in my opinion it's even worse than the Islamic stuff cause it's just a bunch of holy rolling bible thumping sinner bullsh*it. So I was just going to ignore it, but I did make one small comment (couldn't resist) I made a comment about the guy needing to be saved from stupidity. Sorry if it wasn't whitty enough, I'm a little hungover today and not on my top game. Really I thought I said everything I needed to say yesterday in my thread and Qatari said what he needed to in his. I will make an attempt to come up with some real harsh comments on his other threads.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
Sputnik said
Great ...Oh christ nw comes the sorry factor.....Some illegitimate excuse for lashing out at us....
Gypsy said
The only person I lash out ...The only person I lash out at is you Cutenik. :*
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
randr88 said
I lash ...I lash out at Lash Larue, the singing cowboy......
randr88 said
eye lash ...I just found an eyelash in my drink.....
e46M3 said
I occasionally listen to The ...I occasionally listen to The Clash
qatardunes said
Thanks... ...I am so glad I read your mail. In a land of luxus and privilege we just take for granted so many things...
Gypsy said
Oh for Pete's (please insert ...Oh for Pete's (please insert stronger words here) qatardune, go read a bible or Christian Answers which is where he cut and paste this garbage from, whatever you do don't encourage this crap!
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
scmasse said
Sarcasm is obviously lost on ...Sarcasm is obviously lost on most of you people...lol
lamb said
Rayyz ...Thank you for words - "Mr. Christian, I've got two words for you. GET LOST! Please keep your faith with you and I am genuinely not interested in your verbal diarrhoea", exactly the kind of feeling most Non-Muslims get when some one tries to press his case either on this site or elsewhere(eg Zakir Naik) smugly with or without intellectual pretense.
Quiet lurker. Poor Contributer
Sputnik said
Tall claims ...I dont see anyone really practicing the tenets or principles of bible in the west, In fact even the pope said there was no hope for europe's future, once .
Gypsy said
Once again Sputnik, how much ...Once again Sputnik, how much time have you spent in the West? Anyone who considers themself a Christian in the west is practicing that religion. Christianity is going through some upheavel now as it moves in to the 20th century, but that doesn't mean that people who consider themself Christian aren't following the religion. Could you please tell me which pope said that and when?
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
rayyz said
Lamb ...Good comments :) I wonder why didn't your words came in defense for the other guy who posted stuff on Islam and was bombarded with words worse than mine?
All that I wanted to point out was the double standards people maintain. It's easy to speak that we'd have blasted rants on any other religion too. But did that really happen? I think you need to dig in a little more than page 1 and check out comments that were on offer in the other thread.
By the way, did Zakir Naik catch you sneaking past a mosque and force you to listen one of his lectures? Or if you did bump into one his lectures on the telly, you always had a remote with you.
The amount of crap that happens in the name of religion in India is known to everyone, who's discriminated and who's not, I don't even wanna get into that discussion. This is despite the fact that India is a secular country. Qatar is an Islamic country, a little respect would be appreciated.
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Gypsy said
Rayyz ...In all fairness the Islam thread began with titles like "Islam: the perfect way of life for all" and "The Chosen Religion" and "Did you know you were born Muslim" etc. Which is a little more in your face then the titles on these Christian rants. Also, Qatari had dealt with this issue, so most people thought it was probably best to ignore them. I don't think this has anything to do with double standard and more to do with the fact that these threads were posted on the weekend and people were bored with the religious crap by then.
I feel your scorn and I accept it-Jon Stewart
rayyz said
Gypsy ...The very reason why I kept mum when everyone went crazy criticizing the other guy who posted his piece on his religion was cos I didn't quite like it myself. I didn't bother reading what was written there too. That guy probably didn't realize that posting stuff on his religion would not be welcome on QL. He was also stupid not to have known that there would always be a few people waiting for this opportunity and throw dirt back at his religion. Weird isn't it?
Getting to in your face topics, agreed yes it was controversial, but no one pushed you further to click your mouse button to read that thread. You all could have plain ignored those as yet another mobile phone ads. What followed thereafter is known to all and I don't wanna go thru it again.
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mani99 said
jesus never claimed to b god ...THEIR IS NOT A SINGLE STATEMENT IN ANY OF THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE IN WHICH JESUS SAYS IAM GOD OR WORSHIPPED ME, THATS THE CHALLENGE TO ALL THE CHRISTIANS TO PROVE DIVINITY OF THE CHRIST FROM THEIR BIBLE, IF THEY CAN. MANI
hapy said
How many kids a chritian has ...How many kids a chritian has to molestbefore he becomes an archbishop.
Platao36 said
Mani: Christians don't ...Mani: Christians don't consider Jesus as being God, but consider him God's son, when he's crucified, according to the Bible, he said:
"Father, forgive them because they don't know what they do"
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"How many kids a chritian has to molestbefore he becomes an archbishop."
Happy: better not go that way, if i ain't wrong, Mohamed (PBUH) married a 6 year old girl and consumed marriage when she was 9. Wasn't he molesting a kid or child?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
chichi said
salvation ...AMEN
MagicDragon said
What is religion? I don't ...What is religion? I don't know what you're talking about. Can I buy it at Carrefour?
Platao36 said
MD: lol Only God Can Judge ...MD: lol
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
babydoll said
important fact is you belong to a religion.. ...without religion is like walking in dark alley..
so embrace ONCE RELIGION whatever that may be..
peace! :)
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
Shamiri said
without religion is like ...with[out] religion is like walking in dark alley.. on an LSD trip
Supernurse said
Hallelujah!!Praise the Lord! ...Hallelujah!!Praise the Lord!
Shamiri said
His Holiness TFSM gladly ...His Holiness TFSM gladly accepts your praises :)
chichi said
MD ...YOu cannot but RELIGION from anywhere and I believe you know that...
realsomeone said
No one is perfect but ...No one is perfect but original sin is not logical for a clean just born baby. and i dont need saving from Jesus(pbuh) i can rely on his Creator the Lord of the Worlds.
Poverty is not for the sake of hardship. No, it is there because nothing exists but God. Poverty unlocks the door -- what a blessed key!
- Jalaluddin al-Rumi
Platao36 said
RS: nice to have u back, ...RS: nice to have u back, hope everything ok with you.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
kiwis said
Dont you people have ...Dont you people have anything better to do than write mindless crap day after day
gmpolicarpio said
Church of Christ ...anyone a member of The Church of Christ??
gmpolicarpio said
Church of Christ ...anyone a member of The Church of Christ here in Doha? please email me gmpolicarpio/-a-t-/yahoo.com...
heero_yuy2 said
Like the word says: There's no other God but A--, I mean Vishnu ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
nice too nice said
Well, now you can see the ...Well, now you can see the double standard of Many QLers here. When some one post Islam related article, they are here with bashing of islam and muslims, now they are here again to defend and support this thread. I do not feel anything bad about the post as christian posted it here based on his belief and he has the right to do it since this is a public forum. And I do not see many bashing him though there are many muslims here. But the so called "modern" "religionless" people open their mouth to support the post as someone raised realistic questions.......
When Islamic articles are posted here, most of the so called people came to say that it is not religious forum, blah blah... Now what happened to you people??? Why are you there to support the thread????
RED_POPE said
In case you are feeling anal ...In case you are feeling anal about converting to christianity;
Don't forget to visit my confession booth for those extra points before entering eternity.
“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”
heero_yuy2 said
Hallelu--, I mean, Inshallah, RP! ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
RED_POPE said
Gypsy, i want to be your sputnik. ...I'm always trying to be your sputnik, but in the other hand, you are always dodging me like a run-away virgin nun.
LOL
“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”
flanostu said
i'm creating my own ...i'm creating my own religion.
it mostly occurs at night and forces people to drink to excess and engage in drunken deborchery.
heero_yuy2 said
That sounds like Dracula's religion, flan ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
countrylady13 said
HOW COME ...EVERY THING TURNS IN TO ARGUMENT, ITS ANNOYING
Arien said
Religion Again....come on ...Religion Again....come on time for a break mates
britexpat said
Gypsy.. ...Just caught the back end of the discussion.n Its all pretty subjective. I agree with your sentiments on the whole, but would disagree that Christians practice their religion better than Muslims in this region.. I know you used the word "tenets", but please let's not get into symantics.
In all regions / countries there are those who practice their religion and others who don't.
britexpat said
Gypsy.. ...Just caught the back end of the discussion.n Its all pretty subjective. I agree with your sentiments on the whole, but would disagree that Christians practice their religion better than Muslims in this region.. I know you used the word "tenets", but please let's not get into symantics.
In all regions / countries there are those who practice their religion and others who don't.
chichi said
britexpat ...i agree with you
babydoll said
just wonder.. ...I dont know why.. but jesus country is israel -middle east- isn't that mysterious that christianity is all over the world but except from arab countries..
its in the bible that jesus is well known around the world but other than his own counrty.."
Am not expert with christian bible but.. its just a mystery don't you think.
Am not against islam, to their teaching jesus was mentioned the son of god.. and thats how christian believes too..
I admire and amazed by Islam's believes .. and if you combined Islam and christianity what do it turns like?
But am happy with my religion, what matters is that you follow your religion by doing good deeds to people, trusting god and believing that there's only one god..
Christian teachings is all about pure heart to god and to others, trust to god and forgiveness to people who trespass you.
Islam has beatiful meanings too..
Each religion follows their beliefs.. and by doing that as christian or Islam.. nothing is different.. its all by following your religion teachings..
And upto us to be a better christian or Islam :)
Platao36 said
Babydoll: People that follow ...Babydoll: People that follow Islam are muslims
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
habibidak said
no other longer than this? ...If your mind and heart is clean....christian
Respect your conscience...
There is a saying "So many were called but few are chosen"
Pardon me if I’m wrong and if wasn't able to read all the verses...
Be yourself and live free
Arien said
All religeous preachers ...All religeous preachers should be banned from the public forums.
Shamiri said
There was a time when most ...There was a time when most people believed in god and were obedient to church rule. It was called the Dark Ages.
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Platao36 said
Shamiri: yes, guess that was ...Shamiri: yes, guess that was the main reason to be called the dark age, people still belive in God, nowadays the difference is that we don't follow scholars blindly anymore, but try to act as racional beings.
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Shamiri said
Uh huh, so answer this ...Uh huh, so answer this then:
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?
Doesn`t it bother you that you put more logical thought into choosing a car than you do in choosing a god?
As Einstein said: The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish.
If God exists, I hope he has a good excuse :-)
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
edifis said
Shamiri, You are talking ...Shamiri, You are talking like a Hindu!
Supernurse said
Ok shamiri, lets say you ...Ok shamiri, lets say you change the word God that you use in your post to Allah.........here we go!
Shamiri said
God=Allah=Jaweh= --- Extraord ...God=Allah=Jaweh=*insert name of deity of choice*
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Shamiri said
So I changed it What now ...So I changed it What now SuperNurse?
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Platao36 said
Shamiri: My reply would be: ...Shamiri: My reply would be: What's evil? Can evil be good depending on the point of view?
As a spiritist i don't belive in evil but i do belive in imperfect spirits and that our spirit has to keep heading to purity/perfection.
Let me add another question :
If the God related in all Holly books why does He ask to his angels to do his dirty Job or even asks humans to kill each others. As far as i remember He killed humans before so why does he need help?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Supernurse said
No, you didn't change it ...No, you didn't change it Shamiri......you gave a few choices of names....
3sure-hunk3r said
Shamiri study Islam and u ...Shamiri study Islam and u will get the answer.... it will tell you to know more about our God...I say our God, bec. whether u believe him or not he is still our God..and when you think of God Think of God that muslims are referring to....God is not just between that two adjectives.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
edifis said
In arabic"GOD" will become ...In arabic and Hebrew
"GOD" will become will be written as "DOG"
and "ALLAH" will be written as "HALLA"
and "YAHWEH" will be "HEWHAY"
Shamiri said
Supernurse: Is Allah willing ...Supernurse:
Is Allah willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him Allah?
And now?
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Shamiri said
3sure-hunk3r, that is the ...3sure-hunk3r, that is the normal reply of a religious person without an answer
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3sure-hunk3r said
platao"If the God related in ...platao"If the God related in all Holly books why does He ask to his angels to do his dirty Job or even asks humans to kill each others. As far as i remember He killed humans before so why does he need help?"
well thats bec.its apart of him being God, angels has given different task other than us human.killing? well God is the originator of life as well as death..how do u know life if death does not exist? evrything in this world is created in pairs.
"Born optimist nothing can keep me too low for so long"
Shamiri said
Plato, if you are a ...Plato, if you are a spiritist, then you don't believe in a god and the question is not aimed at you.
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RocknRoll said
Shamiri, Pretty Strong Argument :) ...Shamiri said
"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?"
This is pretty standard from atheists and here is the response I have heard from a RC Bishop and another a leading Muslim cleric. Funny thing is that the responses were delivered in different languages at different times, yet the content was nearly same :)
So here goes;
God put humans on earth to exercise their free will. He provided food, shelter and best of all guidance in form of prophets and scripture (Bible, Quran etc.).
Humans are free on this earth to make their choices; good or evil. Evil begets evil and thus creates a spiral of escalation that can only be broken by good and pious deeds.
end.
So what do the atheists say to that?
Shamiri said
but to answer you Plato36: ...From Wiki:
In Western philosophy, evil is usually limited to doing harm or damage to an object or creature. Plato argued that which we call evil is merely ignorance and that good is that which everyone desires. Benedict de Spinoza said that the difference between good and evil is merely one of personal inclinations: "So everyone, by the highest right of Nature, judges what is good and what is evil, considers his own advantage according to his own temperament... ."[2]
The duality of 'good versus evil' is expressed, in some form or another, by many cultures. Those who believe in the duality theory of evil believe that evil cannot exist without good, nor good without evil, as they are both objective states and opposite ends of the same scale.
The legal term, malice (from the Latin malus meaning "bad") describes the deliberate human intent to harm, while sadism refers to a psychological state in which a person derives pleasure from the pain of another person.
In the philosophical concept of evil, the intent to cause harm is crucial, so that acts that would otherwise be considered evil are not called evil when performed by very young children, by animals, or by the insane (see Amorality).
There is also a class of deliberate acts, known to be harmful to another, which are not considered evil because:
1. they are acts of self-defense or defense of another
2. they are considered justified (for instance, Just War)
Phew. The debate about what constitutes evil has kept many philosophers busy for their entire life times. As such, I think it falls outside the scope of the current discussion.
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Shamiri said
RocknRoll .... ...I've started a thread with exactly that in mind: http://www.qatarlivi...
My reply would be that god is blaming humans for his own ineptitude.
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Shamiri said
Ohh and RnR ... ...Even though the question might have been posed by many an atheist, I have yet to find a satisfactory answer ;)
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan
Shamiri said
Hmmm and come to think of it ...Hmmm and come to think of it RnR ... that reply did not answer the question, did it? It is just an explanation of why god is not responsible for evil, not if he could stop it hehe
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Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - Carl Sagan