Should a Non Muslim man be forced to convert

NO!

they should not be forced.If they want to convert,only because they believe and they want it.And its the same if a non Muslim woman loves a Muslim man.In case someone does it just for that reason they wont be happy.
So again a big,big and loud NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

just wondering...
sorry

better to go to the islamic center ALMANAR
they will give the right answers

love is one thing,but the real life is something other.and its most of time the family which is making problems.you never marry just your beloved one,you marry the whole family,take it or leave it.theres no other way.

As far as I know, a non muslim male cannot mary a muslim girl.. The reasons are many fold.. For a start, the children of the union must be brouht up as muslims. The man is regarded as the head of the household, so he should terefore be muslim..

Also, there must be legal implications as per Shariah law..

I think this is a lose lose discussion.. we'll never get an answer to satisfy everyone..

Britexpat is right.
And if your question is simply "Shouldn't love be un-religious?", then YES.
But that doesn't have anything to do with marriage.
A Muslim woman is required to marry a Muslim man.

the civil one which is conducted by non-religion-related person and a church wedding conducted in a religious way.

If they agree to have a civil rites, then nothing to argue. But if the marriage is considered a religious rites, then one must converts to another one to have the same religion and the same belief.

It would be very hard to "serve two masters". How confusing it will be for the children to grow-up into different beliefs. For sure, there will be more troubles than two people of the same beliefs.

The first person/s responsible for teaching religion are the parents. If they belong to different religion, what do you think are the consequences????

Does that answer your question Mr. Paul?????

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Is this antoher one of those "My Phrend knows...."... ITS NOT YOU IS IT ?

AS or your last comment, while its worthy, there may be complications regarding inheritance...

gawd even a protestant can't marry a catholic in a catholic church so no hope for a muslim marrying a non muslim!!

You all know i dont believe in religion, and that i believe in live and let live.
So, if i was in love with a Muslim Lady, and i didnt mind if she raised any children up to follow Islam, then is there a problem there ? after all, they would be my children, whom i would love more than anything, and maybe it would teach them to be tolerent of other faiths/beliefs etc.

Does this make it clearer or have i just confused people more ?

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

for our satisfactions.... Order of Allah(God) cannot be changed for any reason whatsoever.

Article was for your and other knowledge and the reason behind that is very cleary stated that why Muslim woman cannot marry an non mulsim man and why muslim man can marry a non muslim woman (belivers such as christians and jews)

That's all very well, but the problems may start once you kick the bucket...

Also, by your marriage, you would be setting a precedence for your kids.. So they may in turn marry into other religions.. This would be problematic for Muslim lineage..

in the world ??

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

why shud someone be forced.. its d person who matters not the religion..

Muslim man should never look at non muslim PERIOD.
Believeing men should marry believing women

but he will never practise Islam. He will say I did it just to please you mom and dad.

MY BROTHER CONVERTED to MUSLIM before HE MARRIED his wife. It's not that hard since our father's lineage has Muslim blood/lineage.

If the NON-MUSLIM guy intends to marry a MUSLIM girl, shouldn't it be THEM BOTH to agree/decide about it as THEY are ADULTS and could decide for themselves. Shouldn't it be the WOMAN (irregardless of FAITH/RELIGION) who has to concede with her MAN's decision?

However, in this case wherein the GIRL'S parents insist...it would be the non-muslim guy who will have to decide in the end.

Ultraviolet: "But if he really luvs the girl. He should start thinking that he is already in luv with the religion of the muslim girl."

Iis it not possible the other way?
if she really luvs the guy, she should start thinking that she is already in luv with the religion of the non-muslim guy??

Following ur logic,Wud you say that she is not in real love with the guy if she does not convert?

Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

If a man 'converts' to any religion only to facilitate his wedding.. it is not a true faith anyway??

Fran: Agree.Conversion without conviction(in the relegious philosophy) can be called a "conversion for convenience" which does no honor to any relegion.
Somebody told me, "You are what you eat".Now I know why I'm nuts!!

they shoundnt be forced and shouldnt marry a Muslim girl. that is it.

if they want to marry a Muslim girl, they should become Muslim, if not they are not forced but no marriage.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

As i once commented to you, there is no differentiatation between Religon and Life for Muslim.

therefore every action should comply the religion. and human desires and laws are just worldy matter, but there is more powerfull rules set by the creator and any God fearing Muslim should abide.

therefore, Muslim women shouldnt marry a non Muslim man, there is no question of force to convert, there is no force. simply its wrong at the first place a Muslim women to have any relationship with Non Muslim man.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

yup that is not marriage that is fornication.

"He who does not thank people, does not thank Allah" prophet Muhammed (pbuh)

It is not allowed for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man. I am a muslim woman myself and I have gone thru it. So many good looking, educated, decent non-Muslim men have approached me but I have refused them all because my religion does not permit me to marry them. Forget religion, even my family would never let me do that. They would disown me if I even suggested that I wanted to marry a man outside our religion. I can marry a man if he converts to a Muslim and that too after he convinces my parents he would be a good practising Muslim and not just converting for the heck of it. A Muslim man on the other hand can marry a Christian or Jew woman only if they have good moral values.. That is what is written in the Quran, She can continue her religion but the kids should be raised as Muslims by the father. My own cousin in UK married a Jew girl and they have a son who is raised as a Muslim by his grandparents, my uncle and aunt.

A muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim man. Usually, those men convert in name only......I have met a few couples in this situation.Of course, the man has to be "believable" in front of the respective authorities...at that time.

A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
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marriage would be legal and recognised by British law. After all, its British law in the UK, not Sharia law.

I guess provided they continued living in the UK or any " Western" country then all should be well.....

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NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM

There is no problem in them marrying in England.. Simple fact is that she will have roblems with the extended family - That's all..

Just as an aside.. If she "falls in love" wih nn muslim, then she is not a practising muslim, so i wouldn't matter.. Would it ?

From the main reasons for Islam legislating the prohibition of Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men is that it is feared she will leave her religion of Islam.

And at the least, is highly unlikely that the disbelieving male would act as an aid and a reminder in her practicing her religion as a male Muslim husband would/should.

Islam is about enjoining then good and forbidding the evil. How much would a non-Muslim man assist her in that?

Allaah says in the Qur'aan, "verily for the believers is a reminder." What is he going to remind her of when it comes to practicing her deen.

Is he going to remind her that it is time to pray? Is he going to remind her in Ramadhaan not to eat or drink when she accidentally picks up that glass of water or item of food?

Perhaps... but unlikely.

There are of course cases in the west where women enter these type of arrangements. If they are somehow ignorant of the Islamic legislation then we try to teach them. If they enter into it and are aware of it being forbidden but due to their desires they still enter into it then this is from amongst the major sins. If they enter into it thinking it is permissible even though they are fully aware of the legilative texts regarding it then this is disbelief....

Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman

Theory and practice are two very dfferent thngs..

Let me give you an example I am personally familiar with.. Please bear with me..

I know a person who fell in love with a muslim lady i England. He converted to Islam to pacify her family.

However, he was muslim by name only. He had kids. Three years ago, his daughter wanted to marry a non muslim... The family objected.. The girl basically told them to F-Off..

Her argument was.. I have seen my father pretend tobe a muslim, but our household was not practicing Islam..

So why should I now call myself a muslim or marry a muslim...

She went ahead and married her sweetheart...

"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"

Hey About getting a prenuptial agreement? Mentioning that both individuals will not stray from their own personal religious fervor or be influence?

Could that work out in convincing the family allowing the non muslim man in marrying that muslim lady?

Your question is directly related to religion. So the answer should be based on Islamic Shariaa.
In Islam A Muslim woman is not allowed to mary qa non-Muslim. Reasons explained in the link provided by Speed.
Besides. In Islam, there is nothing called convert by force. This is not allowed. One should be convinced to convert.
Bottom line. Even if the man converts (just on paper) and does not practise Islam just to mary a Muslim woman, then it is considered as illegal marriage.

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Mr. Paul,

I have seen this too much growing up Muslim in America. However usually it is the manners and the lifestyle i.e religion ( even if the person is not practicing) that usually attracts people to Muslims women and men.

The thing is that it will always be a battle for a lot of people to change that goodness or manners after the marriage. What seems normal to many Muslims does not seem normal to others or non muslims. It will always be a battle for someone to change. It is rare that a person can respect anothers difference.

When she tells the children's you should thank Allah for the blessing he gives you. Can you be quiet and not say if you do good good will come to you not from a being that no one can see with their eyes.

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Don't you think that any Moslem Woman should have the right to decided who she want's to married?
It sounds to draconian to have that kind of ruling and control over an adult decision.
That your family has an opinion, but to be a single voice is not good for any personal liberties in deciding over others decision.
Way too much religious control and oppression in taking someone's right to choose based on religious indoctrination.

This is Just my opinion. No disrespect to anyone who is moslem.

Red .. Islam and quran clearly demands the permission of the woman before getting married. Those are the good sides which is conveniently ignored i guess.

Well Red let me break it down for you. Muslims who choose to follow the religion have certain guidelines that have to be met. For those who choose not to follow then that's a different discussion altogether. Like I posted earlier in this part of the world a person marries into a family which is different than what you are used to back home. Therefore they do have a say in who is allowed into their family.

Secondly Muslim men also have limits in marriage as well. Firstly they can only marry Jewish or Christian women who are considered chaste. If the men go outside of these boundaries, then their marriage is not Islamic and according to the religion they are blameworthy.

In my opinion non Muslims need to get over the fact that many Muslims are happy with their religion and wish to follow it the way it is without changing things in order to become more "modern". If a family has decided that this is what they want to do than this is their right. If an individual member wants to go in a different dirrection, then they do so knowing that there are consequences. So in the end people do have the freedom to choose what they want. However this choice comes with consequences.

It is not permissible for the guardian, whether he is the father or anyone else, to marry off anyone under his care without her consent, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “A previously-married woman has more right concerning herself than her guardian, and the permission of a virgin should be sought (regarding marriage), and her permission is her silence.” Narrated by Muslim.
It was narrated from Khansa’ bint Khizaam al-Ansaariyyah that her father married her off when she had been previously married, and she did not like that. She went to the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and he annulled the marriage. Narrated by al-Bukhaari, 4845. And it was narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas (may Allaah be pleased with him) that a virgin girl came to the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and told him that her father had married her off against her objections. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) gave her the choice. Narrated by Abu Dawood

No, I am not a muslim.

Now is that Mom_Me that I see online...

Does she remember a few people...

mrahiman, I agree with the first part where you say Islam = complete surrender to your creator but kindly retract your statement about non believers which is your personal interpretation. That is a pompous view which belittles other religion and it is definately not in accordance with your own religion.

Hi ksarat !!!

I'm sorry if my post hurted anyones feelings here which I never wanted to. Regarding "Non Muslim" it was not meant or thot to belittle other but just want make it simple way explanation regarding the subject of marriage. A muslim=a person submitting /surrender to Almighty God and the opposite is non muslim. I just wrote the literal meaning not wot says in the Holy book.And the question asked was regarding a muslim and a non muslim.

OK :)