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Is it islamically correct.....
Is it islamically correct for a Muslim woman or man ,who strictly follows Qu'raan and Sunnah ,to speak to unrelated men on line?
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KellysHeroes said
yes as long as no cyber is involved :D ...===================================== http://www.qatarlivi...
heero_yuy2 said
Huh? ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
MBP said
Edit the thread and ...Edit the thread and re-categorize it under Funnies.
Are you serious?
owen said
interesting question ...interesting question alexa... will look forward to answers.. :)
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
Alexa said
Me too owen, me ...Me too owen, me too!!!!!!!!!
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
britexpat said
Alexa... ...I suppose strictly speaking , it should not be allowed..Since "banter" can lead to affection and then ofcourse the stirring of emotions.
KellysHeroes said
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Alexa said
Oh and MBP, yes I am ...Oh and MBP, yes I am serious, as my limited knowledge of Islam is not able to answer the question....indulge me for a while....trust me, there have been questions a lot funnier than this one ....;)
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
harsha said
Wat???? ...Wat????
heero_yuy2 said
Seriously ......I cannot answer this.
1. I also have limited knowledge of Islam.
2. I'm not a Muslim.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Alexa said
Well, is there some kind of ...Well, is there some kind of ruling on this or not? HAAABIIBAHHH...where are you?????????
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
King Edshel said
Alexa ... talking ...about general stuff and within limitation would be fine. Talking about love stuff and what might lead to other things to happen later is not.
Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment. (Gautama Buddha)
Dracula said
It is ok if the formula ...It is ok if the formula (Sigha) of the marriage contract is pronounced on line either by the man and the woman themselves, or by a person who is appointed by them as their representatives to recite it on their behalf.
harsha said
giving a compliment will be ...giving a compliment will be wrong.. like u luk gorgeous in that dress??
Dracula said
QT r Harsha! ...The representative should not necessarily be a male.
harsha said
Drac... who shudnt ...Drac... who shudnt necessarily be a male?
Dracula said
Mut'ah representatives ...Mut'ah representatives
MBP said
Alexa, hehehehe, let's don't ...Alexa, hehehehe, let's don't go there, k? :D
I am no expert on Islam either, don't ask! BUT moderate Islam allows it, radical Islam doesn't.
Alexa said
MBP.....can we make that ...MBP.....can we make that strict instead of radical? Not that i have a problem with calling it radical, I quite agree to that actually, but strict makes it more usable. Oh, can you post a sunnah or some kind of reference for me...I would be most obliged!
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
Eco-savvy said
Ofcourse there are rules ...this is similar question but asked by male
http://www.islamqa.c...
britexpat said
Eco-savvy.. ...According to your link..
It is not permissible..
Alexa said
Eco, so basically this says ...Eco, so basically this says that a woman should only speak to a man not related to her, if it is essential/necessary? So, idly speaking, just for fun, or whiling time away, partaking in a discussion , all that should not be done. Did I understand this right?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
umm-salayum said
no it's not OK , for a ...no it's not OK , for a believing women / man to talk to the opposite sex online via PM or the like. Because it could lead to evil ....like things that are forbidden in Islam! And that would be a serious matter ,for whoever believes in Allah and the last day....
JMT said
maybe ...There should be a gender-specific section of QL to avoid any problems...
Alexa said
umm-s, does that mean that ...umm-s, does that mean that the same goes for believing men? They should not speak to unrelated women unless it it really and truly essential?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
heero_yuy2 said
Re:umm-salayum ...It gets complicated...specially in these days of technology-driven standards of living...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
JMT said
Where is this going? ...If a man/woman is a strict believer, and they post something here, they should only respond to other men?
JMT said
oops.... ...I meant they should only respond to the same gender and not the opposite because this would be considered unnecessary communication? And no "Let's be friends" PM's?
umm-salayum said
no, men should not do that ...no, men should not do that unless there is a urgent need for it , or he can make sure there is a third person present to watch over the conversation
umm-salayum said
sorry my laptop is sooooooo ...sorry my laptop is sooooooo slow today :(
JMT
I'm talking about conversations in privat between a man and a women not like a forum or with a "wali" =male guardian for the women (like her father, brother or husband or son over 14 years....)
babe fat said
alexa ...islam protect the woman from any harm and for awoman to speak to unrelated men that's itself harmful coz there is no such athing called innocent talk it always lead to other things....
so women and men who strictly follows Qu'raan and Sunnah shouldn't speak to unrelated men or women online...
Take me to the sea and bring me back thirsty...!!!
DaRuDe said
Umm salayum ...the trash bin is near you go throw it there and buy a new one quick
Alexa said
So, if take all this into ...So, if take all this into account, aren't there some people on QL who should not be on QL...happily chatting away, non essentially?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
umm-salayum said
whatever DaRuDe ...You can ...whatever DaRuDe ...You can keep your comment to yourself...
Alexa asked a question and I answered it .....
we don't need your remarks
Thank you!!!
amnesia said
[AT]alexa, it depends on .../-a-t-/alexa, it depends on which family of Sunnah you follow. It also depends on what your own interpretation is.
God gave us a mind. God said we are free to decide. God said we should have good intentions. At the end of the day, it's in your hands.
__________________________
Alexa said
I guess some people are not ...I guess some people are not as "believing" as they like to appear to be.....
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
DaRuDe said
Umm salayum ...so my answer is a believing women will never get ONLINE too because she can read the evil and see the evil with out interaction of any male in that.
You are reading my comments whats that then???
Ah Grow up
babe fat said
alexa ...ya sure...
and all women and men who do it they know that they shouldn't do it...
Take me to the sea and bring me back thirsty...!!!
Alexa said
Amnesia, I know, and I ...Amnesia, I know, and I agree. My aim was to point out that some people who like to "correct" and "preach",often in a less than kind or gentle way, should think about themselves first...as in put your actions where your mouth is.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
umm-salayum said
no they shouldn't if they ...no they shouldn't if they believing Muslims and fear Allah,BUT we are NOT all perfect and we are sinful,and some Muslims see it as harmless, even though it's not....
some Muslims are not aware of the evil effects it could cause....and that goes for the muslims
AND NOT for DaRuDE, since he is not Muslim!!!!!
DaRuDe said
Umm salayum ...yea i can see trying to beat the drum and say i cant hear the voice funny
Alexa said
And here we have one good ...And here we have one good example .......tsk, tsk, tsk, umm-s...now is that islamically correct?????
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
KellysHeroes said
nonsense ...why to assume that when a woman talks to a foreign man then the evil will get in between and it will result in an affair/adultery/flirting and the lady might become pregnant.
If we follow that logic. A woman cannot have a male driver or a gardener. She cannot visit a male doctor or walk into a shop if there is a male inside. Or use Karwa services
Also this means that females cannot work in call centers/help desks.
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DaRuDe said
KH ...you are muslims you better stop visiting female spa next time its Haram for you ok
umm-salayum said
DaRuDe , what are you on ...DaRuDe , what are you on about????I said it's ok in a forum since there a about a thousand ppl on here reading along with us.... to u get it?
the topic is talking in privat man and women, talking in privat to you understand!!!!!?????
babe fat said
umm-salayum ...plz don't get angry from darude...
he just like to make u feel that way...
so just egnour him...LOL
Take me to the sea and bring me back thirsty...!!!
DaRuDe said
I dont ...see a word private in the topic it says online means any thing goes forum or pm or IM or just the moment you get into a forum. still a male is a male and a female is a female both talking to each other.
KellysHeroes said
No.Not me Darude ...That's my clone
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Alexa said
No, I was NOT asking about ...No, I was NOT asking about PRIVATE conversations...I explicitly asked about on line forums...and was told NO, it is not permissible IF we apply strict following the word....geez habibah...would you please show your esteemed presence here? where are you when one needs you????
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
umm-salayum said
KH you are one of these ...KH you are one of these Muslims that think it's all OK , ..... but we are talking about Muslims that are strictly following Quran and Sunnah
babe fat said
kelly ...don't get confuse and don't start to analyse things ur way...thx
Take me to the sea and bring me back thirsty...!!!
Alexa said
Umm-s......errrm...you are ...Umm-s......errrm...you are talking too...to an unrelated man, I assume, so who are you to judge? Are you supposed to judge at all?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
AbuAmerican said
Darude I like you man but.. ...Darude I like you man but.. Imma stab you in the eye with a pencil and break it off in your skull if you keep messing with umsalayum.
Alexa in private no, public yes is what Umsalayum is saying.
owen said
so now what? if we are ...so now what? if we are discussing something here onboard.. should we ask first are you muslim?...if the user is, then what? should we say..."offf sorry, you are not allowed to discuss with us?....hmmmmm, interesting..
so also, religion should be included in our profiles then...
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
DaRuDe said
Why Abu ...just because i cant agree with her thats why?? Or is she more of a Muslim than others??
AbuAmerican said
Darude yea she is.. being my ...Darude yea she is.. being my wife and all
DaRuDe said
Ahan Abu ...So an other couple on QL thats great. hmmm guess the 6th couple i came across with on QL till now.
AbuAmerican said
I wouldn't stab anyone in ...I wouldn't stab anyone in the eye for the record. Especially you Da..
Talking online like this some consider ok, even the most staunch of people tend to agree its ok. Some people.. They say it isn't. Not too many hold that you can unrestricted(ly) talk to the opposite sex (non mahram) in private without some need or reason.
babe fat said
owen ...no dear u don't do that...
coz he or she is ok with them to speak to u....
unless it's not ok for u...
Take me to the sea and bring me back thirsty...!!!
Alexa said
But Abu, the link I was ...But Abu, the link I was given sais, only if the conversation is essential....like with a bank clerk etc.
Look, i do not care one way or the other, as I do what I think is right for me...my perrogative. But what irks me is this...people come on QL, acting holier than thou, in a very, very irritating way, that is just not right.
I have respect for religious people, very mcu so...but i also know enough about Islam to know that one should not judge,and one should be gentle.
Oh, and Guten Abend, Umm-s! :)
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
SPEED said
in short ! general discussion is not harm between 2 oppt sex ...any discussion which cross the limit set by Islam is Haram for both of them.
britexpat said
AbuAmerican... ...If I may.
I have always found discussions with Umm-Sallayem very enlightening. By stepping in, you have basically given the impression that she is incapable of arguing for herself.
I find this sad, because she is more than capable.
KellysHeroes said
Umm-S & babe fat ...I gave examples along your logic and you started attacking me. My examples were about things we see in our daily life everywhere around us.
Reply with logic please.
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AbuAmerican said
Alexa I think it is a ...Alexa I think it is a reactionary thing here on QL and I posted this quite some time ago.
There is a general anti Islam/Muslim tone here on QL and those who are Muslim and have a proclivity towards the two before stated, take offense to some of the posts here that can easily be interpreted as an attack on their chosen way of life.
There are the holier than thou types that are anti Islam on here and they tend to irk people. Its one of the reasons I came out swinging when I first joined QL. When the Muslims come out swinging its a problem but when its the other way around everyone is silent. I said it some time ago and its still the case today.
Just my perspective on why this stuff happens.
AbuAmerican said
Brit that wasn't a ...Brit that wasn't a discussion, Darude knows I joke a lot and I highly doubt he took my comments seriously. The follow up comments weren't for him it was for people like you who cant relax their anal sphincters and joke unless its with certain people. You judge me quite a bit and know absolutely nothing about me.. like most on QL.
Ok you don't like my humor, get in line with most of the world.
This is an example of holier than thou judgment on QL.
Alexa said
Well Abu...I come out ...Well Abu...I come out swinging quite a bit...and trust me...nobody stays quiet...lol
And I don;t think it is a anti muslim tone in general, it is and anti imbalance tone I think...whether it be one faith or another. I think what irks people is that some, no matter what faith they are, preach and criticize...and do not put their actions where their mouth is.
For example...one member spoke against western society, only to then declare he would be immigrating to a western country. this kind of thing with different subjects, happens quite a bit. this what irks me for sure!
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
DaRuDe said
Ah Brit ...No worries about Abu he uses pencil i use screw driver :D
KellysHeroes said
Darude ...is it battery operated?
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britexpat said
AbuAmerican... ...You see you are totally wrong there. I love your humour. I think you are excellent at discussing issues. You have a broad grasp of many subjects.
I disagree with you on one thing only. It is my perception and I may be totally wrong.
I find that you preach, but don't really practice what you preach.. You get angry suddenly and agressive, and then try to laugh it off with humour..But the damage has been done..
Again, I may be wrong and If I am , I apologize.
DaRuDe said
KellyHeroes ...no direct ac/dc connection why want some :D
KellysHeroes said
No Darude ...Just to make sure that your target is achieved :D
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AbuAmerican said
Actually I got the ...Actually I got the aggressive bit from Darud. I thought it was hilarious when him and bigtyme were talking about dukeing it out on the Cornish. I just took off with it..
I don't really preach here on QL. I will comment or give advice when I think I am capable but preach? Give me the link please (to a thread with me preaching).
a merry can muslim said
DaRuDe.... Is there ...DaRuDe.... Is there something wrong with couples posting on QL... or are they supposed to use the same screen name?
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
DaRuDe said
a merry can muslim ...oh yea sure i have a problem a very big problem
so what your problem????
britexpat said
AbuAmerican... ...How about I just send u a PM the next time and we take it from there:)
umm-salayum said
OK ppl, I'm back my laptop ...OK ppl, I'm back my laptop just got back to live.....
anyways
Sorry DaRuDe I totally misunderstood your comment ,....:(
Alexa I didn"t read the question right, my mistake !!!
But you see what I was saying?! I hope
Sorry ppl for causing such a mess/ confusion
and britexpat don't worry about AbuAmerican you just got to love him,I is just one of a kind:)
a merry can muslim said
ahhh hey, tough guy.... who ...ahhh hey, tough guy.... who said anything about a problem...?
I asked a question numbnuts.
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
umm-salayum said
I mean HE is one of a kind ...I mean HE is one of a kind !!!
DaRuDe said
oh numbnutz!!! a merry can muslim ...So you Mr. Knuckle head Dunce nutz when there is some thing wrong then there sure is a problem.
So whats your Problem???
a merry can muslim said
You seem to be uncapable of ...You seem to be uncapable of answering a question based of a comment you made.. yet I am the dunce....
Right....
Only in QL Land, right, tough guy?
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
AbuAmerican said
uh oh! This is gonna end up ...uh oh! This is gonna end up on the Cornish!
DaRuDe said
yea sure you are ...:D coz you cant get through a simple line to understand it.
DaRuDe said
lol No Abu ...no corniche am scaaaaaared of him
a merry can muslim said
Obviously.... or I wouldn't ...Obviously.... or I wouldn't have asked you if there was something wrong....
You aint the sharpest pencil in the drawer... are you?
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
Alexa said
abu, you better get there ...abu, you better get there quick and throw some of your special moves in.....
Umm-s...yes, he sure is!
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
harsha said
... ??? ...... ???
Alexa said
Merry, you have so no idea ...Merry, you have so no idea who you are talking to.....I know, I know you don't care...but you see, for the people who actually know Darude...this is sooo funny!
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
a merry can muslim said
Alexa... I was just asking a ...Alexa... I was just asking a question.... I am not sure what he thinks I meant...
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
DaRuDe said
a merry can muslim ...I said great an other couple.
there is nothing wrong in that if couples are surfing QL on same time with their own ids not 1 id for both.
and i said i have seen alot of couples surfing QL at same time or diff times.
a merry can muslim said
Wow DaRuDe.... That wasn't ...Wow DaRuDe.... That wasn't too difficult, was it?
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman