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Influx of Foreigerners blamed for sprut in Cr
Do u agree on this statement.. is foreigeners the reason for crime in doha.... if yes then which nationality u blame for??
WHILE blaming the massive influx of expatriates for the rising crimes in Qatar, the chief of Capital Security has implored foreigners to respect the customs and traditions of the country.
“The major issue which concerns us today is the habits of people in their home country and the taboos they have to face here as we are a tradition-loving Islamic country,” Col Ahmed Abdullah al-Houti, director of the Capital Security Department, told Gulf Times.
“For instance, they think dating, drinking and gambling are something normal but it is a taboo here,” the official said.
“You may please understand that Qatar is now witnessing a tremendous change because of the multifaceted development projects in various fields. This has brought into this country an enormous influx of expatriates from different cultures and traditions.”
He said crimes were on the rise but this was probably natural given the sudden surge in the population.
For instance, pick-pocketing in crowded buses and the bus stations in Doha and in the Industrial Area had become a major problem in Qatar.
Equally alarming was the spurt in instances of people shop-lifting mobile phones.
However, there had not been any instance of hired criminals being brought in to commit offences in Qatar as had been reported in a neighbouring country recently, he said.
Col Ahmed al-Houti said the ministry was now in the process of introducing a network linking all security offices in the country.
Modern systems were being used in routine office work. “We are trying to do away with paper work as much as possible, switching over to virtual means of communication,” the official said.
“We are doing our best to maintain peace, safety and security in the country through various means. We are under the control of the Public Prosecution Office and our actions are based on the directives of the prosecutor’s office.”
Another “interesting feature” was the induction of female staff into the service at various levels. “We have a good number of women working in different departments.”
Answering a question, Col Ahmed al-Houti said there had also been a corresponding increase in male recruits.
“There is sufficient number of policemen,” he said without specifying the strength of the force.
Col Ahmed al-Houti and deputy director (administration) Col Mohamed Abdullah al-Bouaynain advised those who are going on holidays to secure their homes before flying out.
“People going on leave in summer should ensure that their homes are securely locked, with the doors and windows shut properly. Also, it is advisable to inform the neighbours of their travel programme.”
They should also switch off all electric connections to ensure that there would not be short circuits that could cause fire in their absence, they advised.
The officials, however, added that the police couldn’t do much to prevent any home burglary or break-in, although “we have patrols on the rounds for 24 hours throughout the city and the suburbs”.
The police were concerned with the overall security and “we do our best to avoid the occurrence of crime but we cannot help incidents that occur inside individual homes and establishments because they do not come under our purview,” they added.
“However, once we are informed (of a crime), we swing into action and do our best to solve it”.
When the department did not succeed in catching a culprit, the police sought the help of the Search and Follow-up Department, they said.
“In most cases we do succeed in tracing the culprit,” Ahmed al-Houti said
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al.baloushi said
It was shocking ...Actually when i read it morning it was shocking to me ... Some of Expatriates they love qatar more than their own country ... because they born here and they are here more than 30 years ,,, Even i witnessed lot of places where qataris they do not follow the rules but they follow and not that they fear but the love also ... Yes i agree that expatriates are more in crime now a days but they should blaim on newcomers ... They should not point all expatriates with single para ... They are working with us step by step to boom the economy of qatar ... Lets go little bit back ... See Indians, Pakistan, Bangladeshi , Egyption even they started their careers here but only some of them they did crime may be 2% but not all ... but now see vietnamis,srilankans they are not expert even they donot know how to speak a single language our companies and labour department are bringing them ....
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brandylady said
for all of us ...decent living, honest people, there are always a few who spoil it, wherever you go in the world.
I feel safer here than in England but still tend to be aware if I am out on my own, its an inbuilt sense of personal protection.
women being employed is a great step forward too, police forces need women, as other women find it easier to report a crime to another female, it's a known fact.
tallg said
Regardless of where you are ...Regardless of where you are in the world, as the population of a city increases so does the crime rate. As the majority of people in Doha are expatriates, it follows that the majority of crimes committed are by expatriates.
It's not exactly rocket science, is it?
emron said
besides all the abvoe the ...besides all the abvoe the main reason can be attributed to the spiralling cost of living, lower salary structure, poor facilities to workers.
And all these are to be blamed back to these aurthorities for not showing keen interest in getting all these weed out of the society but they never let any opportunity of expatriate balming go out of their hands.
brandylady said
emron ...the first paragraph of your post makes sense, however the second i found a little too much
emron said
don't u think, brndylady, ...don't u think, brndylady, that these authorities are capable enough to atleast bring these factors down to an optimum level.
brandylady said
emron ...am not disagreeing with you, yes authorities do need to clamp down on crime, but to get to the bottom of why it happens in the first place, like you said in your first paragraph, thats the way forward,
mind you Tallg was right in his post too.
Gypsy said
What does “The major issue ...What does “The major issue which concerns us today is the habits of people in their home country and the taboos they have to face here as we are a tradition-loving Islamic country,” Col Ahmed Abdullah al-Houti, director of the Capital Security Department, told Gulf Times.
“For instance, they think dating, drinking and gambling are something normal but it is a taboo here,” the official said." Have to do with anything, if the crime increase is in theft and pick pocketing? Are people going on pick pocketing dates?
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tallg said
lol Gypsy! It must be that ...lol Gypsy! It must be that they go out on a date, get drunk, and then one of them bets the other that they can't pickpocket someone.
Gypsy said
Jeez, my dates are so dull ...Jeez, my dates are so dull in comparison. :P
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MR PAUL said
Lol Tallg, that made me chuckle !! ...NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
rami-leb said
I love how foreigners are ...I love how foreigners are expected to abide by local laws, but it is okay now for Qataris to go to bars, in their traditional dress, and knock back a few beers, chat up some chicks and then hire a prostitute.
Apparently it's okay when they do it.
(And don't even bother with the whole 'Qataris don't drink or play around'. We've all seen it with our own eyes - those of us whose head isn't in the sand'.)
tallg said
Wow, I got a lol. I must be ...Wow, I got a lol. I must be getting better at this humour thing!
btw, rami-leb; I believe Qatari's are no longer banned from bars.
rami-leb said
Tallg ...Yes, exactly. Qataris are no longer banned from bars. They are now flocking to them more than they are flocking to the cinema.
Remember: This is a "tradition-loving Islamic country".
A tradition-loving Islamic country that allows men to drink at bars. Riiiight.
genesis said
speaking of bars, the sport ...speaking of bars, the sport bar at the city centre marriott courtyard going to be Exceptional.
kellysnake2003 said
May be !!>>> ...kellysnakeI think respective authorities just cant blame foreigners alone for the present influx..... neither they r suppose to blame a speccific nationality or community. its simply they aren't capable of handling these crime at constant pace wid time & economic growth.
i guess they are still far behind in countries home security so i feel its looong looong way to go now!!!!!
rami-leb said
Genesis ...Let's hope the Qataris don't get drunk and cause a brawl in the new Marriott like they did in the sport's bar at Ramada. A few weeks back they were throwing tables and chairs around and causing so much damage to the bar.
tallg said
My point was that the ...My point was that the Qatari's are no longer breaking laws if they go to a bar (other than their religious laws, assuming they are Muslims).
I think the authorities figured that Qatari's are going to drink if they want to regardless of the law, so they may as well make it legal and take the pressure of the bar owners and staff.
Anyway, this is irrelevant to the issue being discussed.
asif1142 said
Nice and good conversation ...Nice and good conversation so far.
I am of the opinion that if the qatar reaaly wanna to be emerged on the world canvas as the model countary then the qatri ought to be a trend setters. they have to lead by the examples. i am damn sure all of you have come across the rash driving and experienced the flashing lights behind you even if you are driving at the maximum limit. no doubt they are intrasigent. this is not what the islam says. Islam says what the other western countries are exhibiting in their civilization. they give respect but i have never seen any qatri giving respect to an asian though they do give to the "WHITE SKINNED" people. Is this the teachings of Islam? no by no means. Islam says to tolerate, to be pacient... I wonder how come they say that they are the "tradition-loving Islamic country". I am pathetic to say that the way we are seeing the qatris demonstrating the Islam is not the Tradition of Islam.
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rami-leb said
Tallg ...I take your point about Qataris not breaking the law regarding entering bars, but it is still on topic.
Firstly, I think that the increase in crime is, as many have said, always in corelation with an increase in population.
The types of crimes mentioned in the article are not being committed by Qataris, they are being committed by foreigners. I doubt very much that you'll see a Qatari at a bus stop (ever) stealing a wallet from a worker. Firstly, the Qatar would never be at the bus stop in the first place, and secondly because the worker's wallet wouldn't have any money in it, which is why he is catching a bus.
The article goes on to talk about how foreigners need to respect that this is a traditional, Muslim country. As far as he is concerned, "dating, drinking and gambling" are taboo here, and therefore, only Westerners do those things. This is a lie. Many Qataris do all three, and can be seen doing these in public bars.
My take on it is that while crime may well be increasing, in terms of actual numbers of offences, I don't think that the crime rate, as a proportion of population, is anything major to be concerned about.
I also take great offence to being told that westerners are, on the whole, a bunch of people who don't respect the cultural norms of Qatar by going out dating and drinking, when the Qataris themselves do these things.
And when it gets down to it, the most common offences in Qatar are traffic violations, but of course there is no mention made that Qataris seem to think that road rules don't apply to them. They are the worst offenders!
adey said
I know of a serious crime ...committed by a qatari youth a few weeks ago. Of course it was swept under the carpet and the aggrieved party did not complain to the police, and was left out of pocket, as he feared for his job.
Can't say anymore I'm afraid.
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Run said
did you notice???? ...everytime i read the news paper all i can see is...they blame expatriates for everything here in qatar when something went wrong....have you seen also the last month article about expatriates???According to some qataris they blamed maids/kadama for there bad childrens behavior...very naive
Very simple dont hire a kadama!!!!
and now qatar is promoting tourism....i dont think sooooo
beso said
Working Force ...Yes, I think inflation is the main reason. people with a lot of money and much more with nothing,...what this will do,...
when u bring a labour here with 500 QR (the same 500 they used to come for 5 years ago) then at the end of the month you even refused to give him, while his wife and 5 kids thinking of him as a hero who'll send a lot of money, but he's at the other side can't find sthng to eat,..what he'll do,..
I am talking about the base of the pyramid here,..working force, being under paid..late to be paid,,panned from any joy of life,.. bad food, no family(women),...ect... I think an animal can't withstand that,..right??
Run said
i agree with that ...poor workers....they are the reason why qatar is developing ....
peachy.keen87 said
i agree with rami-led and ADEY ...THAT REALLY NOT FAIR THAT THEY TALK ABOUT IT AS IF THIS IS ONE SIDED, we all know other serious crimes has been committed by the locals here n to ignore it "sweep it under the rug" like that and jump onto in an issue about pick-pocketing done by poor ppl is just adding fuel to fire. this country needs an interention a.s.a.p!!! all this racism n prejuidice has got to stop. seriously maybe all the QLers should get together to create awareness on racism. or else i cant imagine the damage that might happen cuz of culture clash!!!
i dreeeeeeead driving in doha!!!always get chased off the road and im usually driving with my lil one. and i really hate it how qataris just stop in the middle of the road chit chat with friends.. does the traffic dept know?? rules apply to EVERYONE either if ur from here or not!! jeez
and im not sayin attack the qataris, no! cuz i know that lots of ppl are arrogant towards them too. just sayin that its unfair. all of this is. the world is!! damnit
chiefsittingbull said
beso said I think an animal can't withstand that,..right?? ...Errrrrrrr and we are also all animal too.....the Human kind. Waaaaaaaa cannot tahan worrrr!
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Alexa said
Why would you look at ...Why would you look at yourself if you can blame others? Why look at the underlying reasons for crime, if you can blame the abused?
(This is sarcasm)
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
RED_POPE said
Taboos and habits of people ...“The major issue which concerns us today is the habits of people in their home country and the taboos they have to face here as we are a tradition-loving Islamic country
Could someone tell me,
Could someone point out 5 good habits and 10 bad habits that we learn in Qatar?
What are those traditional taboos?
"Don't make me write your name on my TURD List!"
MagicDragon said
I know 5 good habits: it is ...I know 5 good habits: it is what my family and I have gotten so far:
Hospitality
Assistance
Respect
Fun
Trust
jaytee said
I just got a job offer in ...I just got a job offer in Qatar. Looks like i'll be turning it down after reading all these posts. To think i was leaving Dubai to go to Qatar!!!
t_coffee_or_me said
Jaytee just reading some ...Jaytee just reading some remarks makes you turn down a job ... so sad i pity you dude... you need to grow up and get off the net
flanostu said
“For instance, they think ...“For instance, they think dating, drinking and gambling are something normal but it is a taboo here,” the official said.
can someone please tell me where this magical place is?
j_siddiqui said
Dubai !!!! ...Dubai is the magical place for u !!!
Dracula said
Mate, dont go in ...Mate, dont go in Dubai!
...omg, i can imagine your room full of empty bottles and pink underwears...:)
flanostu said
drac, you know me ...drac, you know me well............and we haven't even met!
azilana7037 said
why blame expatriates? ...it's not their fault if there are crimes...I don't see the connection.
expatriates come here (with their family or not) to work like everyone else.
Should we blame those greedy folks who hire or recruit people who promise good life/salary here. Laborers need to live so some may have resorted to the lowlife living.
Mine is just a hypothesis...
incub0t said
I agree with azilana7037 ...The blames for the increasing number of crimes should not be put on the expatriates. They came here to work and help this country grow, but the problem is the growing numbers of Abusive persons esp. the ones on the higher post on the companies they are working with have grown, discriminating most other nationalities, i believe the LAW here applies only to same ARAB speaking nationalities and not to expatriates that doesn't know how to communicate in arab language.
Apple said
Laws applies to everyone ..... ...even to other Arab nationals (sure it does!) but unfortunately, its not the same as when you're from a 3rd world country.
at least IMHO:(((
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Dracula said
or east-europe :( ...or east-europe :(
jaytee said
easy now partner, what's ...hey coffee boy,easy now partner, what's with the aggression? I have no friends or relatives in Qatar and have therefore been searching the net for info. I've come across this site and have read it pillar to post, amongst other blogs. All i read is negativity about Qatar. Your perception might be different because you live there, would be great if someone actually started a thread about how great it is in Qatar then. Judging by your aggressive comment i can see how the comments are coming about. You completely judge my character, intellect, age and intelligence by half a dozen words - GENIUS!