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Advantage of having circumcision apart from religious.

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DesertRogue said hmm interesting ...

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Gypsy said It's more aerodynamic. ...

It's more aerodynamic.

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tallg said Harder to catch in your ...

Harder to catch in your flies!

 

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Mis-Cat said Medical ...

My dad served in veitnam and said there was nothing worse than seeing 20 y.o. that had just gone under the chop because of some STD they picked up. This was latter confirmed by my doctor who also served some time in Doctors without borders and had also seen the same thing, he also claimed that even in the west, for certain SYD's and medical issues he was still seeing young and older men that had to have it done. Apparently as you get older its a more painful experiance then when your a baby.

 

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DesertRogue said lol it is ...

ohh i agree there lol

 

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salsa611 said hi,Gypsy ...

what do you mean by aerodynamic?

 

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Gypsy said I don't know. I'm just ...

I don't know. I'm just talkin shit.

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realsomeone said Circumcision has great ...

Circumcision has great advantage for men, its protective for STD diseases specially it was proved recently that its preventive of Aids the man who are circumcised have less chance to catch the disease.

for women, its illegal and evil act. No Advantage at all.


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jesus said lol[AT]gypsy.... ...

lol/-a-t-/gypsy....

 

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aaahmed81 said actually, circumcision for ...

actually, circumcision for men prevents the accumulation of a white material (called smegma) underneath the foreskin.
smegma is actually carcinogenic for male and for females (increases incidence of cancer cervix)...

 

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Gypsy said Don't listen to the aftab, ...

Don't listen to the aftab, they're all part of a pro-circumcision lobby! It's there agenda to make people think that circumcision is Ok and "normal"

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ssdoha said The first person to do ...

The first person to do Circumcision was Prophet Abraham (as).

 

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koko37 said I think that the circumsized ...

I think that the circumsized P*n*s is better to look at .. LOL :)

Never say Never for fear of Forever!!

 

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MR PAUL said Can we stop this, Im feeling uncomfortable !!! ...

Blimey Charlie !! Just wash behind its ears and thats it. No need to have a Doc and a scalpel that close.

Just leave it how its designed eh !!

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Kareena74 said (No subject) ...

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linnet said Kareena ...

Dear, this is a public forum so keep a reign on your personal desires :-)

 

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tallg said realsomeone - I know this ...

realsomeone - I know this isn't what you were saying, but I feel I should point this out in case someone misreads it;

CIRCUMCISION IS NOT A RELIABLE DEFENCE AGAINST CATCHING AIDS

 

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Kareena74 said Just a joke ...

Linnet I just meant it as a joke.. No offence meant. I am sorry everyone.

 

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realsomeone said agree with you. its not ...

agree with you. its not reliable but atleast there is less chance for the circumcised man compared to the other. and not only aids but also several other STDs


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rodl said I haven't read anything ...

I haven't read anything about circumcision having any medical benefits yet. Culturally it has significance in most countries. it is believed to improve self-esteem and gender confidence.

 

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tallg said rodl - circumcision is often ...

rodl - circumcision is often carried out for medical reasons, either to cure an existing problem or to prevent one occurring in the future.

 

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Kareena74 said (No subject) ...

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AbuAmerican said Smegma is produced by the ...

Smegma is produced by the body and I have never heard that it is a carcinogen. It is said to stink pretty bad but cause cancer? Maybe to your nose.

 

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nhivz17 said sign of manhood... ...

for us filipinos, we treat circumcision as a sign of manhood... children aged 9-12 yrs old or even with babies undergo this process... coz if they don't, they'll just get teased by other boys around them... as for me, religionwise and medicalwise, there's nothing wrong of doing it... and fellas, it really feels good when ur circumsized coz it adds up confidence when you stand in front of your partner when ur doing that thing... u all know what i mean... =)

 

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spicemom said chopped??ouch>shudders, ...

chopped??ouch>shudders, prefers the term 'circumcision.:D

life's too short so make the most of it, you only live but once.......

 

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tallg said ... or at least 'snipped'. ...

... or at least 'snipped'. Chopped is a bit too brutal.

 

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nhivz17 said go ask them how does it feel like... ...

if you have some filipino friends, go ask them... you can ask them how does it feel like to be "cut"... lol :p

 

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lipstick said realsomeone. ...

what do you mean by

.for women, its illegal and evil act. No Advantage at all?

chaud

 

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rodl said circumcision is often carried out for medical reasons ...

tallg, are we talking about circumcision or some other surgical procedure? snip... snip... doc... cut it off... hehehe

 

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tallg said Circumcision. Apologies, I ...

Circumcision.

Apologies, I shouldn't have used the word 'often', since the number of circumcisions carried out for medical reasons is low compared to the number done for religious or cultural reasons, but it's not that rare for someone to be circumcised for medical reasons.

 

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flanostu said it'll look like a sock if ...

it'll look like a sock if you don't get it done.

 

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rodl said Something to add... ...

something to read regarding the topic:

http://www.norm-uk.o...

 

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KellysHeroes said announcement ...

QLpimp will apply the same rate, whether customers are circumcized or not. We are fighting discrimination and are an "equal opportunity group"

 

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tallg said I'd have to agree with their ...

I'd have to agree with their "Circumcision does not prevent" list at the end of the page. It may limit the risk of some of those things, but it definitely doesn't prevent them.

However, referring back to your query to 'doc tallg', if someone has a medical problem that prevents their penis from functioning normally (or could do in the future) then circumcision can resolve the problem (or prevent it from occurring in the future).

 

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britexpat said At least you've got somewhere to put your chewing gum if ...

you're not circumcised...

 

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tryangle said choping can bring ...

strength to p...........

It will also make a good friend

 

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rodl said tallg no offense meant ...

try not to take it personally. i know there are cultures where its required, some even have to do it very early in their life and they cannot do anything about it, some doesn't even know about it. so, peace man.

hehe... does it look like a sock? nice comparison... hehehe

 

AshM's picture

AshM said hii i am new here.... i ...

hii i am new here.... i don't know why the beleivers of God think He made man imperfect... It's a man made practice... nothing else!


 

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chocosperm said But I just want to ask it is ...

But I just want to ask it is true that the muslims did'nt get circumsise? any comment?

 

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tallg said [AT]rodl - no offence taken, ...

/-a-t-/rodl - no offence taken, I was explaining my comment to you, as your comment implied you didn't believe it.

 

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good girl said Cleaner ...

Looks nicer, etc etc

 

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JonB said that is a load of bollocks ...

anyone who suggests that circumcuision prevents the trandsfer of STD's has not read the actual wording of the research into the study. anyone who considers a circumcision as a method of preventing STD's deserves whatever they catch.

also, there is no STD that requires the removal of a foreskin (have never heard of such a thing)


 

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shaaz1947 said pls help me ...

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Freon said Use the right section ...


 

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aaahmed81 said AbuAmerican>> smegma is ...

AbuAmerican>> smegma is carcinogenic....
and circumcision has no relation what so ever with the transfer of STDs

 

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Freon said Smegma Removal ...

aaahmed81, it just needs washing everyday no problem then !

 

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MR PAUL said Well, i was thinking of having cheese on toast, but now, i dont ...

think i will bother after reading this !!

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anil_fig said Personally for me I think its hygenic ...

I dont see any other reason. Of course if you are meticulous in your cleansing routine then whether it is there or not there it doesnot matter. It has nothing to do with STD or sexual performance. How does a piece of skin 1sq.inch affect your performance? Whoever said that above must make a lousy lover.

 

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aver40 said Just a few technical comments!!!!!! ...

Lack of circumcision:
• Is responsible for a 12-fold higher risk of urinary tract infections in infancy
• One in ~400-900 uncircumcised men will get cancer of the pen*s, which is over 20 times higher than in circumcised men.
• Is associated with 3-fold higher risk of inflammation and infection of the skin of the pen*s...more in diabetics!!
• In the female partners of uncircumcised men a 5 fold higher incidence of cervical cancer (caused by sexually transmitted HPV), pelvic inflammatory disease, infertility from blockage of fallopian tubes, extopic pregnancy (each caused by Chlamydia), genital herpes, and other conditions.
• Increases by 2-4 fold the risk of thrush and sexually transmitted infections such as human papillomavirus (HPV),HIV, syphilis, chancroid and, in some studies Chlamydia

Take care!!!


 

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AshM said I still couldn't find any ...

I still couldn't find any solid proof for the claims made as given by aver40!

No body who calls himself muslims can answer why would Allah CLAIM to have made man into a perfect shape and also why not prescribe circumcisn in the BOOK!
Just an ancient practice even before prophet Ibrahim PBUH, that's why he was circumcised (remember he was not born to a muslim family!), then by jews and chiristians as well( who never followed Ibrahim's true religion). So the reality is the muslims are just following Jews and Christianised form of Islam not the actual message as no where Allah prescribed it! In many ways actualy they are upholding Chiristianity more than Islam...so called their own religion. You think muslims were ever circumcised when they converted !!

thanks

Ash

 

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MagicDragon said Correct AshM. King David of ...

Correct AshM. King David of Israel (1.000 BC) sent out his soldiers to hunt down Phillistine. As proof that they killed the right ones they had to bring back that little piece of skin. (Jews didn't have it anymore)

 

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KellysHeroes said AshM ...

No wonder why you are still looking.

Your statement "Allah CLAIM" is inappropriate. Claim is used to refer to things that is doubtful.

Also no where it is mentioned in Quran about man being man in perfect shape.

So. You better verify your information and watch your words.

 

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salsa611 said hi ...

thanks to all.

 

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AshM said Peace Kellyhero.. Please ...

Peace Kellyhero..

Please don't start war of WORDS!
I wouldn't dare say somehting Allah SWT has not as for the choice of words sorry it came that way as English is not my mother tongue!!

See Surah Tin Ayat 4th!
that is 95:04 of the glorious Quran!

Allah help those who help themselves.

thanks
Ash

P.S. the reason i am still looking is for the choice of the best plus I am in the third year of my CA right now ;)


 

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salsa611 said hi ...

Is it a custom in philipines that all male has to go for circumcision or its choice of their family?

 

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nhivz17 said it is aftab... ...

almost 98% of male population in the Philippines are circumsized... i can say it is a custom... but it is more of fulfilling the "manhood" inside us... the medical and religious factors only follow from it...

 

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salsa611 said hi ...

I was not aware. Thank you for your information. Is circumcision done immediately after birth or any preference age is there.

 

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nhivz17 said as far as i know ...

it depends... there were some instances that the parents let their baby be circumcized after birth... but in general, children do it before they go highschool (age 8-12 yrs old)... we have the option of having it done with a doctor or in a traditional way called "pukpok"... with this kind of circumcision, children usually swim/dip first on a river for 20 mins. until the foreskin gets soft so that it will be easy for a "quack doctor" or anyone in the town area who is known for doing it starts the session... then the children fall in line with guava leaves being chewed in their mouth before facing the person who does it... with a straight razor (used for shaving by barbers) on his one hand and a piece of branchtree (which just fit to handle) on the other, the kid places and spreads out the foreskin into a specially made piece of wood which is adequate to fit in between the head and the foreskin and the ritual goes on... razor is placed in the foreskin and hit by that piece of branchtree he's grasping... and immediately the chewed guava leaves will be placed into the bleeding skincut until it stops bleeding... this is done without any anesthesia or any drugs for it to get numb... some people said that it shouldn't be seen by girls coz it will make your tool to grow into a tomato-size-like throughout the healing process... for me, its normal to grow like that since the wound is large and... IT REALLY HURTS!!! lol...

it normally heals within two weeks with continuous treatment and after that, you will feel like you are a kid no more... that you are already transformed into a grown man coz you can face other kids and shout "tuli na ako!!! (im already circumsized!!!)" with full confidence... that's why i keep on telling that it is a way of fulfilling the "manhood" inside us...

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

Intresting.

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

India also have traditional way for circumcision similar to philipines by barber and without any antibiotic or anesthisia.

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

Any more advantage?

 

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AbuSaif said AshM ...

Please becareful again before quoting the Noble Quran and discussing the religon. the meanings of Surah Tin states the creation of man in best of stature and also read the next line and the next line.

I request you read Quran in full detail and context then you will get the answer of the question/s.... (*)

Now for the second issue, The deen e Ibrahim to deen e Mohammad PBUT is nothing but Islam....and the Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) was sent to extend and concluded the true message of Eissa (PBUH) with the mercy of Allah. A muslim is but a better follower of Eissa (PBUH). Muslims dont bring any difference between the messangers.(From Ibrahim to Mohammad PBUT.

And Allah knows the best and may he guide us all to the right path.
(*) Can assist you later on this....

 

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salsa611 said hi ...

It keeps you clean.

 

kim's picture

kim said Gets rid of the stench I'm ...

Gets rid of the stench

I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years.....ukasland.com

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

what made you in bad mood for 30 years.

 

kim's picture

kim said Life ...

For being born without being consultated first......

I'm not crazy, I've just been in a very bad mood for 30 years.....ukasland.com

 

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Tigasin321 said Its cruel and I am gonna sue ...

This torture was performed on me when I was three days old. I can't remember it but I am sure it hurt. I don't know why they do it in American hospitals unless there is a medical reason for it. Why do they cut off puppy dog tails and the ears of Dobermanns?

Maybe I should sue the hospital that did this tome for performing cruelty on a baby without its consent?

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about


 

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DaRuDe said Damn Tigasin ...

 what are you trying to say is that you are oh no tut tut tut no problem great :D

 

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Tigasin321 said Not that DarUDe ...

but you know, it could have happened if the surgeon was careless and then where would I be?

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about


 

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DaRuDe said hmm Tigasin ...

that would have made you MOUSELESS :D
 

 

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Tigasin321 said It sure would have ...

and that would have been no fun at all for the Tig.

Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about


 

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fahmik said it is proved that if ...

it is proved that if circumcision done in first week of life it will be 100% preventive of penile cancer

 

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huff2u said Advantage? ....at least ...

Advantage? ....at least you're cleaned inside

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

Is it also makes more harder?

 

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kchevrier@twcny... said This is done at birth here ...

This is very common here in the US and done at birth in most cases.
From my experience baby boys are easy to keep clean.
That's all I am willing to share...


 

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salsa611 said yes I agree with you. ...

yes I agree with you.

 

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salsa611 said This topic is very important ...

This topic is very important for mens.

 

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marhabtain said Wot!? ...

For mens - mens what?

 

salsa611's picture

salsa611 said to know detail what are the ...

to know detail what are the advantage having circumcision.

 

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zambo said Ever wonder why circumcision ...

Ever wonder why circumcision is a must for filipino men? thats because this tradition was adapted during islamic era in philippines....to date althought phil. now became a catholic country they have retained this islamic tradition with them..and its good

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salsa611's picture

salsa611 said hi ...

Circmcision also help in Urinary tract infection (UTI), which is very common in infants.

 

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janeyjaney said to look like Darth ...

to look like Darth Vader..

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abu.adil said Was this done on Prophet Muhammad (SAW) ...

Was this done on Prophet Muhammad (SAW)?
Is it mentioned in Quran?

Just Curious!
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