QP offer

QP is main petroleum company in QATAR (GOVT). all comapny is working uder the QP THIS is good offer accept

Thanks binuqatar and mbijlee. Are you able to share the working environment and culture in QP?

This is just an average Package and the 3 Gas companies in Ras Laffan would give you better package.

good offer..
A boy from Kampung

Hai everybody,
I just got an offer from QP (tremendous benefit!!) and have some questions and hope to have some feedback from you guys soon.

1. How long will it take to prepare letter of good conduct from Malaysia?
2. How long the work permit process from QP
3. Visa approval at their embassy in Malaysia?

Since i got the offer letter today ie. 7th July, pls provide me an estimate time to mobilize from KL to Qatar.

Hope i can celebrate eid mubarak in Malaysia ... :)

Thanking in advance!
Rinhanekoma

1. How long will it take to prepare letter of good conduct from Malaysia?
unknown cos they have not requested one for me.

2. How long the work permit process from QP - work permit usually takes 4-6 weeks

3. Visa approval at their embassy in Malaysia? - visa approval is from Doha.

A boy from Kampung

Hai ... I would like to thank everybody for answering my questions...

Lavenda - tremendous benefits mean that i never been paid such amount of 5 figures before in 8 yrs plus of experiences working in Malaysian's companies and single! this is one big opportunity not to miss out!

Kampung boy... which co r u engaged wth? permit and visa will take within that range of time... then.. i can spend with my family for this Eid Mubarak...

by now, i've already done my letter of good conduct frm Wisma Putra and endorsement frm Qatar embassy.

Only my medical check up left.

thank u once again
Rinh

plus here is a big Malyasian community and you feel at home..Go for it

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HE WHO DARES WINS

hi L,
i heard tat a chap tried to nego but didn't get an offer fr them. may b tat is the salary range for G15.
ur hse asst of 14k shld get u a good accomodation fr the advert.
UKEng is correct, u may feel more at home when u mix around more often with d m'sian group.
let us know if u hv made up your mind. anyway, until when must u reply 2 their offer?

KL
The housing allowance is an one lump sum payment. As I intent to go there alone, the allowance is only QAR9600. I still waiting for their reply on my suggestions. Hope to get something out from it before making decision.

Apologies KL, housing allowance is on monthly basis. Furniture Allowance is one lump sum. I confused, sorry.

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HE WHO DARES WINS

u will gonna have a good job in qp.. but i dont think so in your carrer..

KL
I somehow still believe they can improve the package further particularly concern on high rise in housing rental and potential inflation....

The homogenous way to assign package with limited negotiation is hard to attract expat to work in Qatar.

During your stint with QP, is the career path rather stagnant as mentioned above by Lavendar?
Heard tat inflation is sky-rocketing and is much more than the increment tat QP is offering. Is there any light at the end of the tunnel for QP staff?

Lavenda. were u in miri or bintulu??? or are u still there? I left sarawak last mth...still awaiting for my work visa to be processed...am currently in doha now...my hubby has started working already..r u malaysian?

rinhanekoma....are u with oil & gas? r u malaysian?

still a malaysian?? he he he...cool!!! samalah kita!!

it's a good offer, even i believe the offer still can be improved further since u have 17 + 1 yrs of experience..

i suggest, u negotiate further and try to push to the highest limit..

Better still...sini tak da Income Tax and EPF...if you are cermat...your allowance will cover your monthly expenses...monthly salary goes to savings...

Hi Bryan, r u the one who attending the interview same day with me?
I am Eric from Sarawak.

really glad to be able to get hold of u......
here is my msn ericlim123/-a-t-/hotmail.com

feel free to call me when u r onlione.

finally found u.!! u can email me kakcute03/-a-t-/yahoo.com or YM kakcute03
i've heard ur name mentioned by our frens who bumped into you while renewing ur passport if i'm not mistaken.. we have been communicating via emails...
pls email me ok... see you soon Bryan..!

Rinhanekoma

Sweety, have u been on QL ALL day? Thats sort of,well, sad................Drink Gin dear and the day goes so much faster! Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Yes! Would lorve to hear from you - you foxy lady......hic!

Hi, I attended an interview at KL agency on 4 May and got an offer from QP sometime early July

I have 15 yrs exp plus 3 yrs in oil and gas

The offer is not that great

Basic - 18k, grade 11

Qualifications - MAsters in Commerce

Plus can I know why the allowances are not stated in the offer letter , just referred to in the Benefits Books

TQ

Ok tq for replying dweller

really need to think about this coz the housing allowance for Grade 13 is only 7900.

guess thats not enough

TQ

Rehanna

May I know what position are you applying for? Grade 11 with basic 18k is not a bad offer.

can u pls say which 3 co.? thnx

hi Lavenda

The grade is 13, sorry

I m not pleased coz the housing allowance is only 7900

Do u know what is Basic and Suppl in Housing Allowance?

Will they give us the total of both? TQ

thank you DHL... hope i could see you soon.. :) kena bersabar...............

Be careful! QP are not the best employer in Qatar (or the most honest when it comes to recruitment) and you need to really understand the in's and out's of their offer. Look at it VERY carefully and consider the high cost of living, transport and accommodation in Qatar. Also, it is likely you will suffer considerably (financially) when you change from married to single status.

Best of luck!

aieou...

PM me..

I am sure that this is true, but it's not only people from M'sia who regret their decision to go there. In my case QP's offer seemed reasonable, but when I arrived there I found that in fact the allowance offered for housing rental, and the interest free loan to purchase a car was not sufficient or realistic.

But the worst thing for me was the approach and attitude of my management towards the job in hand. I have a lot of working experience and I was fully committed to do a good job for QP, but I was not allowed to do my job because of politics (and favouritism based on race) within the department.

During the two years I was there six people (including me) left my department for these reasons. You must be aware that once you sign a contract with QP and you get your residents permit, you are not allowed to leave the country without an exit visa, which must be approved by QP. In addition, because QP find it difficult to recruit staff, once you sign up with them they are very reluctant to let you resign!

If you tender your resignation officially and it is accepted, about fifteen approval signatures from various department heads are required before you will be allowed to leave. This process can take six to eight weeks, or even longer in some cases!

So, many dissatified employees simply do not return to Qatar once they take their scheduled leave, which is what the six people from my dept did, including me. Others (many!) request emergency leave and do not return.

Having said this, if you decide to accept their offer, you should insist that QP provide you with accomodation, transport & school fees for your children. I advise you not to accept any offer which requires you to find your own accomodation and to purchase your own vehicle under the interest free loan system.

Good luck and all the best!

If you read my post carefully, you will realise that I no longer work for QP. 'Grades' are simply a means used by QP to confuse potential employees, because of course you, as a potential employee, are not fully aware of the status accorded to each grade!

In my experience QP are not honest and they have little or no regard for the welfare of their employees. They need to recruit people, but having once recruited them, they hold them strictly to the terms of their contract without regard to the ever increasing cost of living and accomodation.

If they, as the employer, don't care about your welfare and problems as an employee, how can they expect full committment from you when it comes to doing the job which you were engaged to do?

I guess your comment would scare away people from accepting QP offer...

As far I know, QP will not offer free accomodation to new comers, perhaps there is a change recently. This made it very difficult to decide to accept an offer. Particurlarly the housing allowance is non-negotiable. May I know you was previously from which domain in QP.

Hi there big L,

how r u getting on? haven't heard fr u lately.
gd to hv u back on-line. having a change of heart?

Hi guys, i just came to doha last week 17th Sept 08...

and as far as i've been reading this forum...
are you sure we're talking about QP here??

since i came here... i was given a hotel to stay in, after that a house in al bayyan, even some few K's to spend to buy some daily household items.

But for transport, from home to office, i have to take my self... but what the heck... now is the best time to learn the streets in Doha...

So are you sure we're talking about the same thing here?

p/s... utk akak2 n abang2, adik dah sampai Doha... lapar nak bukak posa... taknak jemput ker? :) mana nak cari asam jawa ngan cili giling, masak sardin pakai cos cili... telan jer lar....

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Do you have to move out of Al Bayyan after 3 months though? If so, finding your own place and purchasing a vehicle will be the start of your problems.

Yes I was informed, but the problem was that QP MISINFORMED me about the cost of housing and of vehicles, both of which I had to subsidise out of my own pocket!

I was there with my family and it was written into my contract that I must purchase a 4X4, and that QP would provide me with an interest free loan for this purpose. The QP loan was about 30% short of market rate for a new 4X4, the housing allowance provided was 20% to 30% short of the market rate at that time.

Many people in my dept complained bitterly about this, but nothing was ever done about it during the two years I was there. So perhaps you may now begin to understand how I feel about QP and the liars they use as recruiters.

By the way, if you are single and QP put you in Al Bayyan for 3 months you are very, very lucky! Al Bayyan villas are usually for families only.

Well I wish you good luck and I hope it works out for you. But I think you will find that the housing allowance provided will not be quite enough. All the property owners and estate agents know how much housing allowance QP pay, and they always set their rentals higher.

What you say is correct, I hope rizalazhar is taking note of this. It's a matter of choice; do you accept and tolerate the nonsense in Qatar or do you leave?

The problem is that the only way to find out if the job & the place is suitable for you is by experiencing it for yourself. By the time you truly become aware of all the problems and inequities in Qatar & QP, and if you then decide that you do not like the situation, it is already too late.

Why? Because by that time you have already signed a contract which is subject to Qatari law and which affords you (in reality) no rights whatsover.
QP employees have no recourse to Qatari labour laws because QP is a government body and it's employees are exempted from the labour laws.

As already stated, QP do not like their employees to resign, and if you decide to leave the resignation process can take two months or more.

So if you have another job lined up, which employer is going to wait two months for you?

The only way out once you are sucked into the horrible, bureaucratic machine that is QP, is to take emergency leave and do not come back, or simply do not return from your scheduled leave.

Many, many QP staff have chosen to take this route because of the deliberately obstructive QP resignation process.

So, once again I say beware (Awas!) to all potential QP recruits.

I suppose it was so that they did not have to supply and maintain one for me! It applied to all the people who were recuited into my dept around the same time as me. The job was site based and a lot of driving was involved between Doha, Messaieed & Ras Laffan.

This is just another indication of the strange ways of QP. Normally it is part of the construction contractor's scope to supply vehicles for client staff.
But not with QP...

I doubt that they would take legal action, unless you were unwise enough to return to Qatar at some time in the future!

But yes, unless you planned your flit properly you stand to lose a lot.

Another down side is the high air fares. KL doha return ranges from 3.5 to 4.5K QR. Thus any other than your schedule annual return is from your own pocket such as any emergency flight back. Moreover its good to get out of qatar every 4 mths to rejuvenate as there are no entertainment etc here.

i can relate to that... what to do with 4 days of Eid holiday???? Advice pls

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Hey there I just got an offer from a Bank. Anyway, I have to do the Letter of Conduct thing and medical check up..
1) Where to do the medical in KL (accredited by Qatar Embassy)?
2)As for the Letter of Conduct, I am stuck at the part "Permohonan hendaklah disokong oleh...." - who can do this? After you get the letter you send this to the Qatar Embassy in KL????
3)Any tips on how to survive the red tape?