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Provocative Summer Dress by Women...?
I agree with some of the comments by a Member of Central Municipal Council regarding the dress code of women. We can see some women's dress too provocative. Some women wore very small 2 piece dress and some women wore very thin, transparent dress to reveal everything. If feels me to think they were waiting for the summer to exploit it...by 'showing' the beauty, structure of their body to strangers...As the member told, the dress they wore might be normal in thier home country, but its not in Qatar. The memeber requested to non-arab newspapers to create an awareness about the culture of Qatar among the readers. But, you can see many arab (non GCC) women wear the same 'revealing or provocative dress'. So, the women includes from everywhere....
I request the women not to wear such provocative dress in the name of summer, when you going out. You can use your favorite dress when you are in your house, or private place where u and your family are or where all the people are belong to that culture...
nasqatar said
Gulf Times says..... ...Dress code appeal to expatriatesPublished: Saturday, 5 July, 2008, 01:22 AM Doha Time
By Anwar Elshamy
A MEMBER of the Central Municipal Council (CMC) has urged expatriates to abide by what he called a “dress code based on Qatari values”.
Ibrahim al-Ibrahim, the member representing the Al Markhiyah constituency, said that visitors and expatriates should show more respect to Qatar’s traditions by dressing more conservatively and avoiding “provocative” clothes.
“The phenomenon is on the rise day after day,” he said. “Many expatriate women wear revealing clothes when they visit malls and the Corniche,” he added.
“I usually receive complaints from my constituents asking me to raise the issue. There should be a mechanism to make the newcomers as well as long-staying expatriates aware of our traditional values.”
Authorities could play a significant role by distributing brochures in different languages at the airport’s arrival lounge so that newcomers to the country got an idea “about our values and thereby a message to avoid provocative clothes,” al-Ibrahim told Gulf Times yesterday.
“I, along with five other members, had lodged a petition to discuss the issue in the council last November. But so far no decisions or recommendations have been made,” he said.
Al-Ibrahim appealed to the non-Arabic media in Qatar to create awareness among their readers about the sensitive matter.
“I think it is the responsibility of the local non-Arabic newspapers to raise the issue and tell their readership about it. We have a deeply-rooted culture of welcoming our visitors and guests. But this generosity should not be abused.
“They should consider our feelings and wear clothes showing respect to our values,” he said, while warning that the phenomenon of scantily-clad women roaming the city, if not checked, might open the way for a clash within the society.
“I think that revealing clothes worn by many expatriates will only deepen the gap in the society and lead more young people to go astray. There are significant differences between our culture and that of the expatriates.
“If such revealing clothes are normal in their country, this is not the situation in our country and they should be aware of that,” he added.
brandylady said
when in Rome ...as the saying goes. I for one keep my normal summer clothing for around the house and compound.
If I go out I respect the culture here and wear clothing that is appropriate albeit a little warm :)
Have noticed others not following that rule but to me, I don't want to attract the wrong kind of stares.
Kanu08 said
Do not even mentioned that ...Do not even mentioned that it is a conservative way of living! Do abide by the culture and religion of the country. Or else you are inviting problems for yourself....
I have noticed that the security officers chasing away men wearing shorts from malls, corniche, etc. Why they don't chase away these women??? May be the officers were busy looking themselves....
roadtripper said
to all expatriates ...the law in this type of country is the law ... follow it or leave the country and let them live the way they want it to be......पीछे
mafiriyals said
Why don't you close you eyes ...Why don't you close you eyes and let others to enjoy themselves :)
swissgirl39 said
its true,as hot as it may be,we should dress decent ...Qatar is an Arabic country.If they want to go half naked then they should do it back home or somewhere else.But maybe the sun burnt their brains.
Cheers and a nice weekend to all.
flanostu said
no matter what women wear ...no matter what women wear they'll always remain beautiful to me.
and if you haven't noticed some women look so damn sexy in an abayaa.
bakamuna said
flanostu u are right on ...flanostu u are right on that...they are the best creation of god :)even though with little flaws lolzz
swissgirl39 said
bakamuna and flanostu ...and i thought women are the cause for mens headaches most of time.
mafiriyals said
Abaya Brigade ...I ask My wife to wear an Abaya upside down from now. Baka ask your wife to do the same and join Abaya Brigade P:)
Triple8 said
Probably these women dont ...Probably these women dont have suitable clothing to wear, all they have are clothing they brought over, maybe give them time to earn enough to buy more decent clothing from here .......lol
mafiriyals said
Better get QLVG leader ...Better get QLVG leader "speed" to start collecting suitable cloths campaign :)
bakamuna said
hehe...i am pretty much sure ...hehe...i am pretty much sure what ever my wife wears she will look pretty to my eyes..and would be same for you mafi...
brandylady said
aww bakamuna ...that is such a nice thing to say :)
mafiriyals said
of course Baka. She normally ...of course Baka. She normally wears a TONG for evening wear :)
brandylady said
whoa mafi ...lol, if you mean what I think you mean... a thong.. then you are one lucky guy :)
swissgirl39 said
lol mafi and welcome back ;D ...bakamuna said
hehe mafi is a bloody lucky ...hehe mafi is a bloody lucky guy...
brandylady said
i have some lovely ...summer clothes, tops and skirts and dresses etc but wouldn't feel comfortable wearing them outside, in the malls etc.
I also find it hard to resist them when I see them in the shops but tend to stick to stuff I can wear while out and about.
Provocative underwear, well thats a different matter ;)
mafiriyals said
Baka - Russell Arnold is now ...Baka - Russell Arnold is now playing for my club "Lanka Lions" in Singapore :)
bakamuna said
well brandy you just go and ...well brandy you just go and see how it is in Dubai..is it not a GCC country ... people will not stare at you like you are from mars but dnt bother..but its only in qatar they just visulaise you naked the moment they see a lady...
bakamuna said
i thought Russel was playing ...i thought Russel was playing in india for the other 20/20.....well i got an offer to play for Kotahena Devils lolzzz i rejected :)
notfromhere said
When I first came here 9 yrs ...When I first came here 9 yrs ago, we never saw women of any nationality dressed in the revealing clothing we see so often now. Rarely even saw men in shorts. It was understood, cover the shoulders and the knees. Now, yikes! I'm still shocked when I see ladies dressed skimpily. I think the foreign companies have a responsibility to provide their employees and their families with some cultural awareness.
But did you see that half-page ad in the Gulf Times a few days ago for a new store opening in Villagio? Model wearing very short shorts!
Seems we're getting mixed messages.
mafiriyals said
His 2nd match as a Lanka ...His 2nd match as a Lanka lions player tomorrow. Top 2 team clshes and decide who the leader is. 1st match he took 4 wickets :)
mafiriyals said
Shorts are better than my ...Shorts are better than my wife's Thong :)I wonder why all those Mullahs don't close their eyes not Stairing at them :)
honestpedal said
its an ad ... ...I like this topic, but seriously about the mixed messages.
No one is saying don't wear what you want. People can walk naked if they wanted to, but in their homes. Around people who would understand and accept such behavior.
For example, I was at Chili's with friends last night and a couple were getting all mushy behind me. Making out and hugging each other. I am actually very happy for them, and it is nice to see such love and affection; but in Public? It's plainly rude! It's offensive to others and its just got no respect hanging on to such behavior in such public places.
I miss the good old Qatar that we used to live in.
mafiriyals said
You want him to hug a camel ...You want him to hug a camel instead :)
notfromhere said
Honestpedal, I agree. And as ...Honestpedal, I agree. And as far as the PDA (public display of affection), it's totally inapproprate. Esp in a restaurant, where ppl are trying to eat. Ew! Hope the couple are married, otherwise they could find themselves in jail.
With this huge influx of people, I think a lot of ppl arrive here with no idea as to the laws and expectations of the society. Honestly I think pamphlets at the airport is not a bad idea.
brandylady said
well bakamuna ...will be sure to pack my summer clothes for my weekend in Dubai in August. :)
sometimes it is sexier to leave something to the imagination rather than having everything on show
mafiriyals said
Do you like my photo ? ...Do you like my photo ?
DaRuDe said
what mafiriyals ...is that your new gf??
brandylady said
sure do ...just asked you in another thread who is it???
notfromhere said
True, Brandy ..."sometimes it is sexier to leave something to the imagination rather than having everything on show"
So true... keep 'em wanting it
lol
mafiriyals said
DaRuDe & Brandy Lady ...She want me to sponcer her to come here from an African Country. In return she want to share her fortune of US $ 16 million with me (30-70 basis )and after that she wants stay with me forever ;)
Translator said
I read everywhere in the ...I read everywhere in the Qatari print media that there is a silent discontent with what the Qataris see as disrespective or even offensive behavior of expatriates when they dress in the public sites in Doha as they would do in their home countries. Simply, half naked expatiate women walking in malls among local women fully covered in black. Not necessarily western expatriates, but arab and asians in particular.
There used to be people asking cultual questions before they travel to other lands, now it seems that most are asking about salaries and visa procedures.
It is not necessarily the fault of either sides, it is certainly a case of miscommunication and false expectations from both. The Qataris think that if an expatriate see how the women dress here, then they would get a hint, and expatriates think that if they do not like the way I dress, they will protest it. But I do not think that either of these are taking place.
QL is perhapse the best outlet to get the word out to expatriates regarding this matter. Showing women's skin in public is an expression of disrespect to culture and religion in this part of the world. You just have to take it as a fact, it is not a matter open for discussion.
Best if we instill a good image about expatriates in the hearts and minds of the host population. Many good things we came here to provide, but it takes few bad things to harm that image.
If the expatriates are the execuse for the sky high rents, then some local is benefiting from it, but if we continue showing disrespect to culture, no Qatari can stand with us. Qataris pride themselves as being a conservative country, we have no right to deprive them from that.
The message is, we do not want a cultural backlash and we end up with men holding sticks in the malls, as in next door country.
brandylady said
well done translator ...already replied to your topic on the other thread :)
brandylady said
cut and paste from other thread as requested :) ...I for one did research the dress code before I came here and understood it to be women need to cover their shoulders and knees while out in public, this I have always adhered to and feel comfortable not attracting the stares or distain from others
superdoc said
Its a strange place ...When it comes to dress code.
In the hotels i often see qatari women wearing abaya at one side of the pool while western women in bikinis on the other side.
nasqatar said
Provocative Ad....No problem....? ...I just remember some photos in Gulf Times, during the Watch n Jewellery Exhibition, showing ladies with ugly dresses (ugly to me...beautiful to many..hahahah)...Means it is allowed for some people...to promote their costliest products. But i feel it is each individuals decision to show some respect to the public...
MR PAUL said
Well ok then. I understand that Arabs find some clothing ...a bit offensive to their way of life..
But, how do yer think that some Westerners feel when they are out shopping ,in their countries, and see Muslim women walking round dressed in their ninja suits ?
The door swings both ways remember.....
NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
jackmohan2007 said
Open Society... ...This is one problem one faces in an open society.
If one wish to have an open society then one will have to adjust with different cultures.
Or else one could have a closed society like Saudi Arabia. Where everything is strict.
Vegas said
I agree totally...Just wear her in my place...It will be ok...:) ...Forgiveness is life...:)
notfromhere said
True, jackmohan, the CMC, ...True, jackmohan, the CMC, ministries, and media (including advertisers) all need to be on the same page if they want to get the word out. But according to the article, they were unable to make any decision even at the municipal level. No doubt there are plenty of locals who don't mind the foreigners parading around half naked, as long as they're spending big bucks, and as long as their (Qataris) own wives are keeping their abayas on.
TweetyBird said
Mixed Message... ...I agree that all of the shops that sell the skimpy outfits send a mixed message. As for me, I dress conservatively when out in public because I respect the culture. Being scantily dressed in public makes a fair portion of the population uncomfortable so, to me, it is a matter of respect to not be the cause of such discomfort. But it is not a law, it is more like a request or recommendation so to each his own I guess. But if the government wants people to cover up maybe they should require that disclaimers be posted in shop windows and on sales receipts that "the clothes purchased in this store that do not cover shoulders or knees must not be worn in public". Of course this would probably effect sales in said store, thus effecting the pocket of the propieters.
aaahmed81 said
and if u don't like the ...and if u don't like the short skirts and the see through tops, then why do u allow shops to sell them???
salax85 said
yes i read that too and ...yes i read that too and agree its hilarious specially the term 'provocative'. an open illustration by the media of the closed arab minds. i mean if i am of strong faith a nude women wont melt me down. thats my simple theory. another reason why i am a virgin :) /PEACE\
wizz14 said
It is live refreshment for ...It is live refreshment for males.
but we have to respect tradition.
linnet said
SHow respect ...By abiding by the culture...
a merry can muslim said
Mr Paul... there is a very ...Mr Paul... there is a very large difference between the 2...
Westernized women wear the clothes they do out of culture...
My British Westernized wife wears what you call a 'ninja suit' out of choice to establish a religious obligation....
And since my wife is British and AbuAmerican's wife is German doesn't that make the 'ninja suit' western dress??!!! LOL
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
princess habibah said
Mr. paul I had an ...Mr. paul
I had an interesting conversation with my neighbor a few weeks ago. A very genteel couple who have not had the chance to experience many different cultures. And they, like most westerners, agree that seeing a women wear hijab is perfectly acceptable as this is our religion. And it does not offend them in the least. However, where they feel uncomfortable is when women where nothing but black and cover the face. They find this scary and often fear the person may have a bomb, particularly at airports.
I really cannot say i blame them! And I think they are perfectly reasonable in their request. Covering our faces in non muslim countries is not an obligation despite what some misguided muslims think. And we should also respect our host country by being considerate of the feelings of our neighbors.
As a result, I chose to take off my face cover quite some time ago and wear more colourful clothing that looks peaceful and not so black. And have had very positive responses.
Likewise, non muslims in muslims countries should try to cover in loose clothing to the ankles and at least to the elbow. Although I feel it hypocritical for many muslims to ask for this considering their abayas are skin tight and see through!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
wizz14 said
Maryum:- Good. 1) In some ...Maryum:-
Good.
1) In some countries Scarf(covering face) are banned and it is obligation. is it due to bomb scare. hahahaha.
2) Religion is in Hijab or Hijab is in religion ?.
3) Are we going toward stone age (without clothes) or toward modern age (Respectable dresses) ?
4) May be it is too much hot weather so.. .hahahaha
britexpat said
The simple fact is that we are guests in their country.. ...The Qataris have not thus far enforced a dress code as in Saudi Arabia..
Most people automatically know what is "reasonable".. We should dress appropriately wherever we are.
KellysHeroes said
transparent dress ...is considered like radiators for hot girls. but the effect is reverse.
guys. be nice and provide us with GPS coordinates
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Becca_Bee said
This is a really interesting thread ...I haven't arrived yet, but have been trying to think about what is appropriate to wear - especially when teaching young Qatari women, for whom I want to show respect for their culture but simultaneously to retain my own identity. I'm fairly modest anyway, but the knees! My knees, specifically!!
Most of my skirts and dresses are above the knee - not much, but just above. Is it possible to wear a modest dark dress above the knee with dark tights without offending people? I know this sounds mad :)
but I would appreciate hearing what people think...
Kareena74 said
You stole my words Notfromhere ...When I read the report in today's gulf times, the first thing that came to my mind was that ad that had appeared in the newspaper few days ago..a half page color ad of young girl wearing a mini skirt.. That is just one ad,I have seen so many such ads in the gulf times, peninsula and some of the supplemntary magazines which come with the newspaper..I do agree with Notfromwhere that the media and government are giving us mixed messages..Please make up your mind.. Do you want to be like UAE or like Saudia Arabia?
princess habibah said
Becca Bee It would probably ...Becca Bee
It would probably be preferable to muslims if you could wear light weight trousers under your dresses. However, as long as your dresses come just above the knee and are not tight fitting then a pair of dark coloured tights may work. It is less common but many syrian girls dress like this as well as wear hijab.
If your dress is 4 inches or more from your knee then I would definately wear trousers. The legs and tight fitting tops which show the breast will probably receive criticism. In my opinion non muslim women can get away with following 3 rules.
1.) the legs should be covered
2.) the hips and buttocks should be covered with loose clothing
3.) Stay away from showing cleavage! Although one will be able to get away with a tighter top if they follow the first 3 rules. And perhaps a tight waist.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Gypsy said
If they want us to dress ...If they want us to dress less provocatively they should stop selling provocative clothing in the stores, simple as that.
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ksarat16 said
Alright Ladies, KSA in Da house ...Alright whats this fuss about...how come I dont read any of this kinda news...MORE CLOTHING Required, i only end up with the LESS CLOTHING news...LOL!!!
Hmmm, well ok ok ok we know about the Culture and Community, but then again, just because you are staying in a country doesnt mean you swallow every rule of that country down your throat even if it is like Poison for a few...I mean, Hot burning Summer, and you cant expect people to stay on full winter clothing right, i mean i get it that, the muslim ladies do that, but hey thats out of NO OPTION rather than any WANT TO DO IT feelings...
So ladies, come on take it easy and maybe just cover up a little bit, but HEY NOT TOO MUCH, dont make it unfair for the guys as well...LOL!!!
cheers!!!
bakamuna said
lolzzzzzzzzzzzz.... ...lolzzzzzzzzzzzz....
koko37 said
I'm Sorry, ...But in religion if you wear the Hijab, you should not wear anything tight, revealing or short. Here I think the girls got it all mixed up. Here the girls wear the hijab, but have you seen the tight clothing they wear?? Come on.. now is that respecting the religion??? And Qatari women, they just wear the hijab and abaya here in this country.. but outside.. that disappears immediately at the airport... now.. is there something there that sounds hipocrictical??? I think yes.... What's the use in buying all these clothes from Qatari stores (51% qatari owned) to wear at home.. it's a waste of money... If i buy.. i will wear!!
Never say Never for fear of Forever!!
Gypsy said
Exactly koko. If you sell ...Exactly koko. If you sell it, I'll wear it, and not just at home.
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PhillyEagles2007 said
It seems to me like people ...It seems to me like people ae trying to push the envelope regarding the dress code. Last weekend, I went to the City Center. While I was there, I saw a woman who was wearing see through white that revealed her teal colored thong. I looked away (yes Mafi Riyals it can be done) but I was offended by her clothing. It was disrespectful and in poor taste. If the hijab can be outlawed in certain countries (even though they are sold there) then why can't clothing that is offensive to Muslims be banned here?
"I don't think so. Homey don't play dat."
Homey Da Clown
Gypsy said
Because they sell it in the ...Because they sell it in the stores. IF it's so offensive Why sell it?
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PhillyEagles2007 said
I doubt the pants I saw were ...I doubt the pants I saw were sold here.
"I don't think so. Homey don't play dat."
Homey Da Clown
Gypsy said
You want to bet?? Take a ...You want to bet?? Take a look through women's clothing stores here. They sell halter tops, mini skirts and everything else. In fact finding modest clothing is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I can tell you one thing about the women here, if they buy the clothes that are sold, underneath the abayas they're dressed like hookers.
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koko37 said
I think.. here in Qatar... ...I think.. here in Qatar... no matter what you do in this country.. someon will always complain about the expatriates... so whether you want to wear your winter clothes in Summer, Don't Drink, Don't Party, Don't have a Relationship outside of marriage... what ever... and we comply.. they will still find something to complain about... if you ask me.. the most money spent in the market these days is coming from the expatriates... so why complain in the first place.. we are making them richer... i bet it must have been one mutawah's wife who complained and he brought it up to the council!!
Never say Never for fear of Forever!!
princess habibah said
A wife like me I am sure ...A wife like me I am sure KOKO!
No I mean you guys should be able to do some of the things that you like. After all you are not muslim! However, in terms of doing things in public then some discretion would be considerate. Having said that, the muslims should take the same advice!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
rami-leb said
Gypsy ...I totally agree. If the 'Qataris' find such clothing so damn offensive then they, as the majority owners of ALL the shops, would see to it that such clothing isn't sold.
Some of the stuff the mannequins wear in the window of the shops at Landmark looks like it is specially designed for prostitutes and white trash.
Don't give me this crap about conservative muslims not liking this stuf when they are the ones selling it.
And in any case, the Indian women wander around with their bare bellies showing all year round, so why is this a 'summer' issue?
If the locals don't like the ex-patriates and their dress sense, they should just send them all home. And then see what happens to this country. Like it or not the ex-pats hold much more power here than the nationals like to admit.
genesis said
They sell it, because ...They sell it, because that’s what Qatari women wear under their Abayas. There is a big transition on the general attire at Doha recently. However, none of the locals really complained. If they did, the issue would have been brought up at local media. But have you watched the Qatar main TV channel latly? There is a gay guy giving beauty/makeup tips every Tuesday night…Things are changing
kim said
Double standards....You ...Double standards....You cannot eat your cake and still have it.
If 51% of the stores here in Doha (PhillyEagles) are actually owned by the Qatari’s why then are they not imposing the rules of what can be sold in their shops and what cannot. Much like the movie distribution centres, if say a movie like ‘sex in the city’ is uneditable for it’s explicit material, then it simply doesn’t see the light of the theatres, why not do the same to the clothes. Or are we more interested in the returns that come with selling the skimpy clothes?
The store owners must have realised that in order for the goods to be sold quicker, you have to sell the appealing product (preferences of the majority of the population)
When I came into Qatar, I only had ‘Abaya-like’ clothes, since I knew that I was moving into a very conservative-cultured country, but as days go by, and I visit the mall, I start adapting my earlier clothing simply because it’s readily available and it’s stuff that I LOVE!
I don’t know about everyone else but if I am going to spend $100 buying a sleeveless blouse, then that will not be classified as a stay-at-home clothing! Leave that to the rugged ones.
britexpat said
PH.. ...I agree with your comments regaring dressing in non-Muslim countries. I would however question you saying.."Covering our faces in non muslim countries is not an obligation despite what some misguided muslims think. ".. This is as far as I know , open to interpretation.
Which ever country we go to, whether Christian, Muslim, Hindu etc, we should dress is a manner which does not offend.
Gypsy: In Saudi Arabia, the same type of clothes are sold.. Women buy them, but usually wear them at private parties/functions , etc .. Not in the street.
If you were at an "indiginous Peoples " reseration in the summer time, I am guessing , you woudn't strut around in a boob tube and skimpy skirt.
kim said
Whenever i travel I have ...Whenever i travel I have noticed that on several occasions (especially flights destined to European countries), the ladies clad in Abaya, loose the “conservative” clothing immediately they step on the plane.
Is there something that we are not saying, or is it one of those, “don’t say don’t tell” tales.
princess habibah said
Brit Expat I can understand ...Brit Expat
I can understand why that would be the impression. After all some muslims make the face cover absolutely compulsory including books written by the scholars for english speaking muslims.
However, Almost every muslim has heard that their is a difference of opinion on this subject. If they have been too lazy to look into the evidence then that is their problem in my opinion. Sounds harsh I know!
A difference of opinion or ijtihad is often viewed with negative connentation due to misuse. However their is definately a place for what we call itjihad in our religion. And it is particularly useful to muslims living in non muslim countries when trying to respect their hosts. In which we should do our utmost to be considerate and respectful.
It can be argued by muslims and non muslims alike that British muslims should not wear the face veil.
And this should not be considered offensive due to a clear difference of opinion regarding the issues by the major ulama (which means it is not obligatory).
Whereas those issues, such as hijab or wearing loose clothing that is not see through, which are clearly islamic obligation have no room for futher interpretation .
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Gypsy said
Why not? what do you think ...Why not? what do you think natives wear?
And there's a difference between here and Saudi Arabia is there they impose the abaya on everyone, here they don't. So if I don't have to wear and abaya and I can't buy any other type of clothes in the stores what am I supposed to do? Qatar has three choices: A) impose the Ababya, B: change what kind of clothes are sold in the stores or C) Get used to it.
I figure they'll go with C.
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princess habibah said
I would lik to add that this ...I would lik to add that this same argument should not be put forth in Islamic countries. As it is a sunnah and extremely liked to cover the face and muslim countries should do their utmost in preserving this beautiful religion.
Non muslim countries are not muslims and do not owe (us muslims) anything in terms of religious leniency. If they choose to give it then we should be grateful of their kindness.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
a merry can muslim said
PH.... Especially when it is ...PH.... Especially when it is a native of that 'free' country who becomes a Muslim and wants to dress in what they feel their religion has obligated them to do so, right??
Then what? Since they are the host themselves?
So much for 'freedom of expression'...
Or is that only an American concept?
Game recognizes game and you're looking kinda unfamiliar right now... -- Riley Freeman
Kareena74 said
Gulf Times, Thursday July 3rd ...Have a look at the ad for this new store at villageo "PASSPORT". The model is sporting a pair of teeny weeny white shorts exposing her complete thighs and legs.. If I remember correctly she is wearing a halter neck top with it.. If this kind of dress is provocative then whey the hell was it advertised in the newspaper... Perhaps the same reason they advertise cigarettes and then say smoking is injurious to health.. LOL
princess habibah said
Yeah but merry, even if ...Yeah but merry,
even if that is the case then we should try to respect our neighbors. Just because we choose to be an alien religion does not mean we have the right to force others to accept it.
Also as a muslim I do not believe in freedom of expression. And yes I do take your point that it is their rules and therefore they are suffering from it. Well to be honest I do think it is their own problem and a consequence of their man made laws.
And yes I do find it hypocritical to give freedom of expression to all and then complain when muslims practice that freedom in their own countries. But hey.. not trying to get into all that nonsense.
From an islamic point of view the west has every right to stop us from wearing niqab. And muslims need to be grateful for the religious freedom we are allowed and stop making a fuss all the time. At the end of the day we look grateful and they look like the hypocrites!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
britexpat said
PH.. ...From an islamic point of view the west has every right to stop us from wearing niqab.
Plase explain further.. Thanks
a merry can muslim said
Kareena, in the article it ...Kareena, in the article it says that his constituents have complained about it.
It is not much to assume that his constituents do not read the English newspapers to see it or there would have probably been complaints as well.
And the argument about the shops selling it holds no weight in my eyes either as the majority of Qataris do not own these shops that sell the clothes.
I understand the uproar of the showing of skin here from expatriates but I certainly do wish they made a similar uproar over their women wearing these specifically tailored abayas that, while showing no skin, certainly leave little to the imagination as well....
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Gypsy said
A Merry, the stores are ALL ...A Merry, the stores are ALL 51% owned by a Qatari sponsor, and like everything else in this country, they have the right to choose what's sold.
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a merry can muslim said
Gypsy... You missed my ...Gypsy... You missed my point..... I understand that but how many Qataris own these types of shops? A vast minority or a vast majority?
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a merry can muslim said
PH... the laws of these ...PH... the laws of these lands allow that and if my British wife wants to wear that... How is that not respecting them... She is respecting her own culture by utilizing the laws of her country that give that right...
And fulfilling a religious act of worship at the same time... seems like a win win to me...
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Gypsy said
What does it matter? One ...What does it matter? One Qatari or many Qatari's? One thing I can tell you is that the #1 customer in any clothing store here are the locals, so if the locals are buying hooker wear, who are they to tell us not to wear it as well? Is it a double standard? And, much like my search for the elusive plain black t-shirt, if I can't find it, I can't wear it, and the Qatari's have nobody to blame but themselves for that.
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intelligentconv... said
???????????????????? ...Would someone explain specifically... what is the proper dress code for women & men which is suitable?
Men
- no shorts- nothing transparent... so no white linen trousers, only if they wear white underwear?
- sleaves - no sleevless tops?
Women
- no clevage revealing tops?
- no sleavless tops?
- long curtain type skirts (which drag on the floor
Rather than worring so much about what expatriates are wearing... check out the behaviour of those conservatively dressed, is that appropriate?
a merry can muslim said
C'mon Gypsy.... It makes a ...C'mon Gypsy.... It makes a big difference...
If it is a vast minority then we can NOT be too critical of the mass in a land such as Qatar when the average person cannot really change much. Read the article on this that is included on the other post again. The man said his constituents complained and he has tried to get something to a committee about it...
And there is a big difference IF the women buy it and ONLY wear it in their homes... they can dress as they choose (or not dress)... walking around in their streets and buildings is another matter in my opinion...
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Gypsy said
But merry, if these are the ...But merry, if these are the only clothes sold, AGAIN, what am I supposed to do??? I refuse to wear an abaya because it's a symbol of a religion that I don't believe in, where does the leave me?
If they don't want us wearing the clothes, don't sell them!
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a merry can muslim said
PH... Can you elaborate on ...PH... Can you elaborate on this statement please as Brit asked earlier...
"From an islamic point of view the west has every right to stop us from wearing niqab."
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