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Do we really need to learn Arabic?
...to get a job 'round here?
It's the Arabs who need to learn English.
I find it so hard for Arabic-speaking people to teach them engineering coz it's much more 'sound' to the English language.
How do Arabic-speaking technical/college schools get to give them such engineering details in Arabic format?
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qatman said
The same way as the french, ...The same way as the french, russians, chinese .... do it.
MagicDragon said
Don't worry: the important ...Don't worry: the important words are not even translated into English: i.e. Kindergarten, Weltgeist, Eigenvalue, ...
minoyahoo said
Go and do some Homework ...Let me remind your ignorant!
The first civilization started in Arab Land.
The first engineering construction that cannot be explained in our days now, is in Arab Land.
The first medical surgery to the human Eye was conducted in Arab Land.
The first Law was issued in Arab Land.
Go and do some research you will find that all the Engineering, Civilization, Law, Medicine, Humanitarians, Scientist of earth and space are Arabic.
Who are the English????????
KellysHeroes said
heero ...I would recommend learning Urdu or Tagalog. More popular.
In relation to Arabic speaking people learning engineering or any technical studies in Arabic, it is not a big deal. I did study physics, chemistry and mathematics in Arabic for one year at university. although at school I learned it in English. It goes both ways.
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MagicDragon said
Which civilization are you ...Which civilization are you talking about exactly? Sumer? (5.000 BC) Or the Indus River Valley Civilization (5.000 BC)? Or the Anatolian Civilization (10.000 BC)??
minoyahoo said
How about Adam and Eve? And ...How about Adam and Eve? And the start of man kind.
How about Ibrahim and the rest of the Messengers.
Please don't ask questions! go and research!
MagicDragon said
My comment did not ...My comment did not appear???
Well, the start of mankind? Ethiopia and Kenya (Great Rift Valley). What else?
minoyahoo said
Ethiopia and Kenya!! Are you ...Ethiopia and Kenya!! Are you kidding me? Where did they migrated from dear? and where do you get your info from? I'm talking about the 1st human on earth, were found in Iraq, Gardens of Eden.
MagicDragon said
If that's what you believe ...If that's what you believe then there is no use to discuss this any further.
minoyahoo said
It's not about believes, ...It's not about believes, this is the truth....I'm not even Arabic..
minoyahoo said
You are probably right, you ...You are probably right, you are limited on History knowledge
esvcc said
lol cat fight ...lol cat fight
RED_POPE said
The First Civilization was not Arab! ...Mesopotamia is the land between the two rivers, the Tigris and the Euphrates, Bet Nahrein in the Ashurai language. This is the land where writing and numbers were invented six thousand years ago. It's where the Bible tells us God created the first man and the first woman and placed them in the Garden of Eden, or Paradise.
Mesopotamia is the Greek name for this land. Alexander the Great died in Babylon three centuries before the time of Jesus. Alexander's empire crumbled after his death. The land of Mesopotamia became the battleground for many nations.
The Arabs conquered Mesopotamia in the 7th Century AD, and they've occupied this Biblical land ever since. Although most of the original inhabitants of Mesopotamia have long migrated to other countries, there is a remnant of Ashurai and Chaldeans left in Mesopotamia, which has been renamed Iraq since the 1930s.
Three thousand years ago, the Ashurai lands were in North Mesopotamia and the Chaldean lands were in South Mesopotamia.
Nineveh in the North battled Babylon in the South for four thousand years, until there were no more men left to fight. Today, that seems mind boggling, but the sculptures depicting those battles and the records of those kings that ruled in the early millennia are still in the world museums.
The war between the North and South has been going on for ten thousand years.
As Ben Franklin said:
In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria.
RED_POPE said
What is the name of the ...What is the name of the world's first engineer?
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As Ben Franklin said:
In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria.
MagicDragon said
Unlike you, minoyahoo, I ...Unlike you, minoyahoo, I don't "believe", but I consider the following:
Orrorin tugenensis (6 million years ago)
Species Description:
If Orrorin tugenensis is truly a hominid as its discoverers describe it, the species is by far the oldest-known member of the family to which humans belong. In fact, at 6 million years old, O. tugenensis lived near the time when genetic analyses suggest our oldest hominid ancestor split from the oldest ancestor of the great apes. This means that there's a chance O. tugenensis could be the proverbial "missing link" -- or at least one of them.
Certain features, like the teeth of O. tugenensis, suggest this species could even be more closely related to Homo sapiens than the many Australopithecus species it predates. Like our molars, the molars of O. tugenensis were small compared to any of the australopithecine teeth. Their teeth also had very thick enamel like ours.
Grooves in the femurs of O. tugenensis, presumably points where muscles and ligaments attached, suggest that the species was bipedal. Unfortunately, much about this species, including the suggested close relationship between it and Homo sapiens, is extremely speculative and hotly contested.
Estimated age: 6 million years
Date of discovery: 2000
Location: Kapsomin, Kenya
Evidence for this species is made up of 13 fossils, including a partial femur, bits of a lower jaw, and several teeth. One of the few things about O. tugenensis that is not controversial is its age. Sediments in which the bones were found have consistently been dated at 6 million years old, making O. tugenensis the oldest hominid by far, if in fact the species is a hominid.
MagicDragon said
Oh, maybe 6 million years is ...Oh, maybe 6 million years is too far off your comprehension. What about some other (closer) relatives?
Australopithecus aethiopicus (2.7 to 2.3 million years ago)
Species Description:
Australopithecus aethiopicus may be an ancestor of two later species, Australopithecus robustus and Australopithecus boisei. The species has a peculiar mixture of primitive and highly derived traits relative to earlier species.
Brain size of A. aethiopicus is comparable to that of modern apes and the much-earlier A. afarensis. Other skull traits appear to be novel adaptations, some of which probably allowed A. aethiopicus to exploit tougher food sources. The massive face was flat or concave with no forehead.
A very large sagittal crest (a ridge of bone running along the top of the skull) and other heavily reinforced areas of the skull would have provided strong points of attachment for chewing muscles. Powerful chewing muscles, paired with the species' extremely large and thickly enameled molars and premolars, suggest that A. aethiopicus ate very tough, grainy foods that required a great deal of processing.
Fossil Finds:
The Black Skull
Estimated age: 2.6 million years
Date of discovery: 1984
Location: Lake Turkana, Kenya
This cranium, with its mix of primitive and advanced characteristics, is described by some as a nearly perfect intermediate between A. afarensis and A. boisei. The fossil suggests that A. aethiopicus was a transitional species.
Homo habilis (2.3 to 1.6 million years ago)
Species Description:
Homo habilis has been a controversial species since it was first described in the mid-1960s. Originally, many scientists did not accept its validity, believing that all specimens should be assigned either to the genus Australopithecus or to Homo erectus. Today, H. habilis is widely accepted as a species.
Some scientists, however, still believe that many of the earliest fossils assigned to H. habilis are too fragmented and separated in time for conclusions about their relationships or species compositions to be possible. H. habilis specimens with particularly large features -- brains or teeth, for instance -- are sometimes assigned as Homo rudolfensis.
Homo habilis, "handy man," is so called because of the wealth of tools that have been found with its fossils. The average H. habilis brain was considerably larger than the average Australopithecus brain. The brain shape is also more humanlike. The bulge of Broca's area, essential for speech, is visible in one H. habilis brain cast, indicating that the species may have been capable of rudimentary speech. The average H. habilis individual is thought to have been about five feet tall and 100 pounds, although females may have been smaller.
Fossil Finds:
The Mystery Skull (debated)
Estimated age: 1.85 million years
Date of discovery: 1973
Location: Koobi Fora, Kenya
The mystery of this specimen's identity may never be solved. This cranium is so different from any other specimen that there is still no consensus about what it really is. The sagittal crest resembles a common A. boisei trait, but the teeth are too small to be from that species.
Dik-dik Hominid
Estimated age: 1.8 million years
Date of discovery: 1986
Location: Olduvai Gorge, Tanzania
This is a typical hominid fossil specimen, made up of very small fragments. The height of this H. habilis individual, estimated at 3 feet 5 inches tall based on arm and leg bone lengths, is very small for the species. It was most likely a female.
Olduvai George
Estimated age: 1.7 million years
Date of discovery: 1963
Location: Olduvai Gorge, Tanzania
Cattle trampled this specimen before it was found, so much of the skull was lost. It consists of teeth and skull fragments.
KNM-ER 1470
Estimated age: 1.9 million years
Location: Koobi Fora, Kenya
This is the most complete H. habilis skull known. The brain case is much larger than any australopithecine skull and lacks the large brow ridges typical of Homo erectus. Some people call this specimen H. rudolfensis.
Evidence of Culture:
Oldowan stone tools
Estimated age: 1.8 million years
Location: Olduvai Gorge, Tanzania
These tools, like most others from the same period, were made by chipping pieces from chunks of volcanic rock to reveal sharp, jagged edges.
You can have more of this. It will prep up your history knowledge for sure.
RED_POPE said
minoyahoo said: The first ...minoyahoo said:
The first Law was issued in Arab Land.
What kind of law? Celestial or human law?
This could turn to be a heated debate.
As Ben Franklin said:
In wine there is wisdom, in beer there is freedom, in water there is bacteria.
heero_yuy2 said
And how come nobody arabic aint teachin' me? ...If they have the history in engineering?
Is it me or somebody of ancient arabic didn't even 'develop' the engineering language?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
heero_yuy2 said
And what da hell is everyone talking about?? ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
harsha said
one post.. and as red pope ...one post.. and as red pope says.. it cud turn into a wonderful debate..lemme sit back n watch.. minoyahoo go ahead..
MattyHardingLower said
Minoyahoo....Whilst I dont agree with hero ...Every single one of your points is debatable and open to opinion.
If you take a step back from looking down your very long, dark, narrow tunnel, you'll perhaps see that other peoples opinions do differ from your highly researched facts.
In my opinion, unless you were actually present at the time, you cant possibly say its true, your'e just passing on information, that may or may not be factually correct.
Thats the basic truth!
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t_coffee_or_me said
harsha pass the bobcorn n ...harsha pass the bobcorn n bebsi here
MattyHardingLower said
Oh and.......... ..."Go and do some research you will find that all the Engineering, Civilization, Law, Medicine, Humanitarians, Scientist of earth and space are Arabic."
This is simply rubbish......now its you who should do some research.
zambo said
yalla!.... . . "swim like a ...yalla!....
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"swim like a current,stand like a rock"
labda06 said
Moral of the thread....go ...Moral of the thread....go visit Kenya!!!! wooohooo!
notfromhere said
LOL labda! Yay Kenya!! I was ...LOL labda! Yay Kenya!! I was there in December, can't wait to go back.
labda06 said
I couldn't resist the ...I couldn't resist the marketing opportunity notfromhere, LOL! Great to know you had a great time...did you go to the Masaai Mara / Coast? I cant wait to go back myself!
notfromhere said
Labda, it was unforgettable. ...Labda, it was unforgettable. Yes, went to Masaai Mara, but not the coast. Hope to get there one day.
minoyahoo said
magicdragon and mattyhardinglower!!!! ...I would like to apologize for not being able to reply to this debate in time, due to a business trip to Dubai that took longer than expected. However. MagicDragon instead of cutting and pasting some articles from some archaeologist’s book that he/she wrote in order to make a dollar or two by fooling your little mind, then this is your problem! Your telling me that (Monkey human) or (Orrorin tugenensis) had existed 6 million years ago. I laugh at your little brain. This was a book that you probably found on a shelve at a library collecting dust. If that was the case let me refer you to three books that the entire humanity on earth go back to for reference (Torah, Bible and Quran), but you know what! I’m not going that root due to the fact; religion and science do not mix.
As human being let us use our common sense for 15 min.
If life existed 6 or10 million years ago! Why is it only 10,000 or 15,000 years ago it took us to develop as civilization and be able to document events?
What happen to the 9 million and 9 hundred thousand years before that? Did we live like monkeys for all these years?
By the way these books that you keep reading, most of the time they contradict each other or each writer will contradict the other writer by finding or creating his own formula of assuming the life of the cranium they dig out.
Let’s be realistic. There is no million years ago.
Universe, earth, humanity and civilization where created 15,000 to 17,000 years ago at most. And it all started in the Middle East or Iraq to be exact.
MattyHardingLower said Minoyahoo....Whilst I dont agree with hero ...
Every single one of your points is debatable and open to opinion.
If you take a step back from looking down your very long, dark, narrow tunnel
Mattyhardinglower. What were you doing in my closet ??? LoL
While I have few days before I go to Jordan, I’ll be more than happy to debate any argument with you. Cause you are simple!!!!
In conclusion: Engineering, Civilization, Law, Medicine, Humanitarians, Scientist of earth and space are Arabic." And I think you should go and do some research. I don’t have the time to re-teach you history?????????
Apple said
Heero--Not necessary! ...But if you feel that it would make your task easier, then why not?
Arabs do appreciate workers who could relate their language. Don't we appreciate an Arab who speak good Tagalog?
I do!:))
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Alexa said
It is not necessary to know ...It is not necessary to know arabic in Qatar, but I believe it is polite to at least make an attempt to learn some of the language. Plus, where better to practise it than here?
Science,research etc. was very popular,advanced and well pracised many, many moons ago in the Arabic world.It is still pracised of course, but now other countries have overtaken the Arabic world.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
chevydjak said
Look at your quote " It's ...Look at your quote " It's the Arabs who need to learn English." My friend, it's their land, it's their country. We must find our way to mingle with them, we can't tell them to learn english, urdu, chinese etc..etc..etc..
By the way, Arabs here as well as Qatari's knows how to speak English... So, don't bother yourself learning arabic.
“ AN END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS “
Mis-Cat said
minoyahoo ...Flaw to your logic here, not everyone on this earth use the bible, tohrah or qua ran as points of reference in fact given that most of our ancient civilizations predate these scriptures by some thousands of years one could also argue that these were written to make a quick buck as well.
"Your born, You Live, You Die, given this premise, one can conclude since we have no control over when we are born and when we die, the only thing that matters to us should be how we live, simple really?" Mis-Cat to her philosophy Lecturer.
vonkate22 said
yes of course... ...U really need it....
vonkate22 said
Qatar's know how to speak ...Qatari's know how to speak in English.. No Need For Urdu because it is Absolutely Useless...
Indians specially in Souq knows how to speak tagalog..
because it can help them...
Filipino's Dont bother to learn Urdu because it is Useless,, HAHA...
Sad But True...
Indians Halatul kalam " Kabayan and Pare"
But they are Not Filipino and Christian...
They dont know what their saying....
harsha said
if u learn it.. its ...if u learn it.. its better... else it shouldnt be that big a problem..
Xray said
There is no doubt abouth the ...There is no doubt abouth the glory past of Arabic culture and language... but English is the need of time... you can't escape from the fact...
chevydjak said
“ AN END DOES NOT JUSTIFY ...“ AN END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS “
JBH said
Most of the locals I have ...Most of the locals I have spoken to have been able to communicte at least well enough in English.
It is a widely spoken language as we all know.
I have been having this struggle with myself for some months now about which language to learn.
I think as long as I learn how to be polite in Arabic it would suffice.
For day to day I think I would benefit from learning Hindi as most of my co-workers speak it.
Am I right or am I wrong?
Call me Maninibat!
chevydjak said
As English is our Universal Language... ...We must learn it...if your planning to go out of your country to communicate well, anywhere.
“ AN END DOES NOT JUSTIFY THE MEANS “
Murali said
Miniyahoo ...I hope you are allright?
Murali said
Harsha ...Please pass the Bobcorn to me as well.
amnesia said
lol a foreigner comes to an ...lol a foreigner comes to an Arabic country and says that we should learn English.
Arabs in England, yes, Arabs who want to be internationally accepted, yes, but is it their duty? Not at all.
See my blog post which coincidentally replies to this thread .
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Scarlett said
Most countries teach their school age children ...the English language because English is now the Universal language. The Universal language used to be French, but in the past century it has switched.
Telling another country it HAS to learn English is arrogance in its worst form. Making it a requirement to learn Arabic to obtain a job isn't right either, if the company wants to open its field for the best employee, as perhaps the best one for the job isn't an Arabic person, but someone from a different country. That all depends on who applies and what their qualifications are. It also all depends on the needs and wants of the personal company.
I do think that it is in everyone's best interest to attempt to learn the native tongue of the country you are living and working in. I've been trying but am absolutely horrible with languages, so in the end, usually make the local folks laugh with my attempts..but at least an attempt is made, which is usually very appreciated.
Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.