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need your help very badly,esp filipino engrs

hi.. engineers working in qatar.. i need your help badly.. im 23 yrs old and im about to sign a contract as an electrical engineer (fresh) in CEGELEC based on doha,qatar.. they offered me 3000 qatar.. my visa is ready..
its 3000QR plus free transpo, accomodation, annual roundtrip, medical benefits. im single and has 1yr experience only.. do you think its fair enough for entry level? mga kababayan.. tulong naman..
the problem is, im having a hard time to decide if i will accept the contract.. guys pls help me to decide..
1. what is the first thing i need to do/check im my papers/contract/employer/agency etc.?
2. how is the working environment for engrs?
3. what should i expect? culture? social life? past time? night life?
4. is 3000 enough? whats the average cost of living?
5. and what are the things i need to consider when working in qatar?
6.COMSIP AL A'ALI (CEGELEC) does anyone here know about this company? is it a good company?
i need your feedbacks badly..any advice or opinion will be very much appreciated.
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bakishpanday said
for u.. ...yes man u came as engineers it's gr8 but just think living cost is very high over here... is your total salary or u can get extra allowance for your room cus living cost is very high over here..so try 2 confirm boss...
hened said
never ...dont go 4r that small salary.living cost is very high,u will not save anything .if u r married.never.the minimum salary 4r engg.has 2 be above 8to 10k.have a nice day.
mafiriyals1 said
hened ...electrical engineer (fresh)has 2 be above 8to 10k?
Where? In your father's company? don't B.S. to other people :(
xplode said
its 3000QR plus free ...its 3000QR plus free transpo, accomodation, annual roundtrip, medical benefits. im single and has 1yr experience only.. do you think its fair enough for entry level? mga kababayan.. tulong naman..
xplode said
thanks for the feedbacks.. i ...thanks for the feedbacks.. i need more ideas and opinions pls...thanks guys..
Architect.J said
Honestly, i feel you should ...Honestly, i feel you should gain some experience and then try to apply in the gulf. The problem here is that you cannot change your job easily, like you would back home. If u come here and get into a contract with just 3k, u will be stuck with that for a long time. The best option would be to gain a few years experience and then apply for work in the gulf. You would get double the amount (or more).
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Mr. A said
Its up 2 u ...maliit yan..sasama lang ang loob mo kung malalaman kung magkano ang sweldohan dito ng mga Engineer.lisensyado ka ba? Pero kung experienced ang hanap mo eh tanggapin mo na dahil bata ka pa naman sa tingin mo. You can terminate the contract kapag hindi nila sinunod yun kontrata mo at isa pa, ipa revised mo rin o request mo yun contract kung maaari eh baguhin nila kung pwede kang bigyan ng release kapag ayaw mo na, yun eh kung papayag sila?
xplode said
mr.A salamat.. yun nga sana ...mr.A salamat..
yun nga sana hanap ko.. experience lang muna and then tska na lang bumawi,, kasi compared sa sahod ng engineer dito sa pinas.. parang no choice na eh.. mas malaki parin sa abroad kahit malayo sa pamilya.
mallrat said
how much is the total package? ....
how much is your tranpo allowance?
-it should be QR. 1,500 t0 QR. 2,000.
accommodation allowance?
-from QR. 3,500 to QR. 5,000
.
In my opinion,
Basic salary is low but pwede mong tanggapin if:
-transpo and accommodation allowance is close to above bracket.
.
After the game, the KiNG and the PAwN go into the same box.
-Italian Proverb
xplode said
no allowance for transpo and ...no allowance for transpo and accomodation.. the company will provide bachelor sharing accomodation and motor vehicle for transpo.. is this ok?
owen said
xplode here is my advise for ...xplode here is my advise for you... how long is your contract with your company? 2 years? if so, since you are saying that you initially want experience, then its ok to accept the offer as long as you meet both ends with your salary (this depends on your lifestyle when you get here)...
once you gain experience and you will end contract, will you be offered a release after your contract? if yes, then accept the offer...
one more thing, you have to prove your worth once you get here coz you will have great possibility to increase your package once they see how you work with their company..you will not be forever with that package, you can always request to have it increased..
hope this helps..
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
xplode said
tnx a lot owen.. they told ...tnx a lot owen..
they told me that 3000 is just for a training period of 3months,since im a freshie, but it is not stated at the contract.
its just a verbal agreement bet me and the interviewer. and im afraid that my salary will be 3000 for 2yrs..
are they true to their words?
or can i hav my contract revised as soon as i arrived to doha?
my visa is ready and im just waiting for my plane ticket.
tnx guys..
owen said
xplode...if you can have it ...xplode...if you can have it revised now that after your probation/training you are subject for an increase...but if you got no time...hmmmmm, just prove to them that you deserve better from what you are getting as soon as you start working..just to be in the safe side better remind them in writing once you get here..
goodluck then and see you soon.. you may want to check us out from here.. http://qatarliving.c...
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
dmigtysolomon said
Very good advice Owen dear,..... ...Xplode, take it. You may not save a lot but it's better than working as a cadet engineer or junior engineer in our country. As I've said in the other thread, focus you attention in getting experience, for sure, it will be hard at the start because of the adjustment but as I said, it's a matter of focussing in your priorities. You are still young and a lot of opportunities awaits you here or in other countries. Be patients, try to gain experience as advice by the others. Just prepare yourself to be away from your love ones for sometime (it's really hard but with determination, you can pass it).
"dgoodrebel will always be the rebellious good one"
xplode said
im afraid i dont have enough ...im afraid i dont have enough time, and i dont have a direct contact with my employer. im just waiting for the instructions of the agency..
is it really need to be written on the contract?
i thought salary increase will surely take effect after probationary/training period just like here in the philippines. isnt it?
tnx a lot owen.. ur such a big relief..
owen said
xplode.. it will be for your ...xplode.. it will be for your protection buddy and it is better to have it stated in your contract.. but as you said you got no time.. so have it clarified as soon as you get here..
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
dondi823 said
take it ...take it take it... you still dont get that kind of salary sa pinas. good luck.
xplode said
yep, thats why i might still ...yep, thats why i might still consider it.. comparing on what i hav here in the phils for a freshie.. 3k is not bad after all for a trainee... plus the overseas experience...tnx guys...
btw, looking forward to meet you guys...tnx esp owen. ;0
Jagoda said
Does anybody can tell me ...Does anybody can tell me where is COMSIP AL A'ALI in DOha?
Boss_99 said
GO.. ...go for that since the accomodation and trans is available..
at least get an experience for 2 years.. then you will have 200% more offer than this one,,
good luck
charanmafiriyals said
"then you will have 200% ..."then you will have 200% more offer than this one,,"
Where is the NOC to get a new job :)
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Pieman said
I suspect for this wage you ...I suspect for this wage you are not a fully qualified electrical engineer. Are you an electrician?
I have a lot of experiende with Comsip in Qatar and Cegelec in Europe. They are the preffered contractor for Instrumentation and Electrical for my previous company.
In Qatar they have a good reputation for doing a quality job on time.
They are also very active in Bahrain.
just eat another pie
Pieman said
I mean experience, ...I mean experience, sorry.
just eat another pie
xplode said
.... ...i am already here in doha and enjoying my stay.. after all, considering a job is not always about the salary..
thanks for your advice guys..
"sacrifice is giving up something good for something better"
Boss_99 said
mr. charanmafiriyals please ...mr. charanmafiriyals
please clarify your reply more.. what do u mean ?!