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Salary so low and cost of living so high
I can see from various sources that in Qatar salary is very low, everyday they are trying to become more cheaper by hiring Indians, Nepali, Bangali and rest, where as I see room rent very high. I wonder how people are coping with that.
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simpleman said
that's a ...that's a question.......
Herein Qatar, living is getting tougher in terms of spending and expenditure. I always wonder where are we speeding to, the current situation needs urgent(like war time)attention from all the authorities concerned especially the Cabinet since i feel the present scenario seems like a financial turmoil is imminent(i am not monger)but taking into consideration of the changes after Asian Games2006 or months leading towards Games there is a considerable change in all walks of life.
Family Life especially of expatriates is in doldrums, the situation is getting worse i hope you get what i mean.
for eg. to get a shop space one has to pay Hundred Thousand Riyals to the owner apart from postdated cheques.
its well beyond the theory of Darwin"Survival of the Fittest"
i hope, i pray there would be some positive actions and changes......
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AbuAmerican said
I have seen the costs ...I have seen the costs steadily rise since I have been here. I don't know how people with static pay can cope with it.
lovinni said
people with meager wages ...people with meager wages tend to sacrificed themselves. budgeting on their daily needs, other dont socialize anymore. add to it the rising transportation cost when you move around doha. others do extra jobs to add a little income. but such measure is not enough. its hard for people to look for new jobs due to release issues. and it sucks when you work on a private company because some employers dont care at all on employees' welfare.
I think I've discovered the secret of life - you just hang around until you get used to it. ~Charles Schulz
vignale said
Hmm, If people are not ...Hmm, If people are not Satisfied - they CAN and SHOULD leave. No use with people complaining. There is always somewhere else they can go, if they are complaining. If they cannot find anywhere better - then just stop complaining
MagicDragon said
John Howard of Australia ...John Howard of Australia shares your opinion:
'This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom,
'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE'.'
'If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted.'
MagicDragon said
Oh, I forgot: you don't have ...Oh, I forgot: you don't have the RIGHT TO LEAVE. You need your sponsor's permission.
baldrick2dogs said
MD ...LOL
Sponsor's permission :o)
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"If it ain't broke, don't fix it."
askme said
Oh... very sad.... ...Oh.. very sad.. to know that you need sponsor’s permission to leave the job or country.
This is what I called as a Modern slavery.
If you are really fair, then let people decide whether they want to stay in Qatar or not. Rather than saying “If you don’t like get out of my country and yet you hold their passport or don’t give them freedom to leave the country…..”
Isn't it sound like hypocrisy? May Allah bless Muslim Ummah, before it becomes too late!
avril said
Im wondring what life will ...Im wondring what life will be in Qatar if one's just earning 1600QR/month. Anybody who can give me an idea?
Transportation and accomodation are free.
Thanks.
goaboy said
avril you dont want to know the answer to that question ...life here will suck big time even if accomidation is free and even if transport is free .surely accomidation if its free will be sharing no privacy one thing and transport well lets just say well i cant say anything exactly i have been waiting every day for two hours in hot sun for taxi i wonder where the taxi is .if its company then its ok if its on time
amnesia said
/-a-t-/magicdragon, if you .../-a-t-/magicdragon, if you have no debt you CAN leave without a sponsors permission unless you signed a fixed term contract. (in which case in ANY country you cannot leave)
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hotandsticky said
sakary so low and costs so high? ...you and me both brutha
new intown said
No life and rsoles to serve. ...No life and rsoles to serve.
MagicDragon said
amnesia, since I am here, ...amnesia, since I am here, 1989, I needed an exit visa from my sponsor every time I left Qatar. I haven't left Qatar since 1995, maybe the rules have changed.
HH said
Johny's gone mate ...Newsflash. That fool was voted out last year. We have a new fool in charge now.
andrew11121 said
Amnesia ...I can't speak for every country in the world, but I know of no impediment that an employer can use in Australia (where I'm from) to prevent someone from leaving, even if they have outstanding debts or obligations.
As far as I was aware, it was mainly the Gulf countries that prevent people from leaving without their sponsor's permission.
I'm also confused about the circumstances in which someone can leave without an exit permit. From what you're saying, someone without a contract and no debt can leave without permission. Does that extend to any foreign nationals other than those on tourist and visit visas? Or are you just saying that tourists can leave freely? (lucky them!)
janeyjaney said
Amnesia.. I beg to disagree. ...Amnesia.. I beg to disagree. Some employers even if the employee has finished and exceeded his term as stated on the signed contract, they still don't let them leave just as easy.
This still happens. Sadly.
Oryx said
leaving ...you need an exit permit to leave......
and if someone delays/messes up on the paperwork etc... then you cant...
it does happen...
MagicDragon said
the question remains, why ...the question remains, why amnesia, a Qatari, is trying to tell us lies?
tallg said
"unless you signed a fixed ..."unless you signed a fixed term contract. (in which case in ANY country you cannot leave)"
Really? Is that the case in any country?
qatarprospect said
I am a mechanical engineer ...I am a mechanical engineer with 28 years of working experience in the oil & gas industry. I am thinking of working in Doha and wish to know what sort of monthly salary can I expect from companies like Qatar Petroleum, Qatar Gas, Shell, Dolphin Energy, etc.
Can anybody give me some quick answers?
charanmafiriyals said
amnesia ...amnesia is a Qatari who doesn't like to hear anything negetive about Qatar :(
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charanmafiriyals said
qatarprospect ...Post your question in the proper place.
Ban Spoon Feeding not Me
AbuAmerican said
Charan not true.. Amnesia is ...Charan not true.. Amnesia is Qatari who doesn't like to hear anything negative about Qatar without a solution to the problem being complained about.
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MagicDragon said
Okay, one for amnesia. I ...Okay, one for amnesia. I don't have any contract with anybody! I am sponsored by a Qatari who is my friend. I have no debts and no criminal record. If I want to leave Qatar I have to go to my friend and he has to sign the exit permit, which he does. But I cannot leave without it.
rami-leb said
Rather than accusing Amnesia ...Rather than accusing Amnesia of being a liar, do you think that perhaps he, like lots of Qatari nationals, have no idea what the ex-pats actually have to put up with and go through?
Some Qataris perhaps do genuinely believe that the ex-pats just like to complain, and that the sponsor system doesn't really exist, and we are just making it all up.
MagicDragon said
I assume you're joking, ...I assume you're joking, Rami.
Alexa said
Simple...get multiple Exit ...Simple...get multiple Exit Re-entry....I would NOT be here without it.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
MagicDragon said
You will also have to re-new ...You will also have to re-new it, Alex. I have it, too. And it still bears the signature of a sponsor, or not?
rami-leb said
Alexa ...You shouldn't be so flippant in telling people to get an multiple exit visa.
Again... you need your sponsor's permission, and many sponsors are very reluctant to issue them.
MagicDragon - I was trying to look for the best in people... Occam's razor: Either Amnesia is saying this because he is unsure, or because he is lying. I would hope that it's the former.
I would really like to know just how much more Qataris actually know about the ex-pat visa conditions in their own country.
MagicDragon said
Rami, I'm not sure if you ...Rami, I'm not sure if you are serious. There is a UN report on "Modern Slavery", and it explicitly mentions the sponsorship system in the Gulf States as such a "Modern Slavery". Somebody must be totally disinterested or so self-contempt not to read this. And even more, "Not knowing" is no excuse!!!
A-L said
the cost of living here is ...the cost of living here is really high especially the rental, its crazy~
seny0rita said
u need ur sponsor's ...u need ur sponsor's permission to leave, u need the government's approval to marry...
sheesh what other else??
para mi amor esta loca
amnesia said
/-a-t-/magicdragon, Please .../-a-t-/magicdragon, Please don't call me a liar.
Call up the Ministry of Labour. Ask them about the legislation. If your contract has ended, you have no debt, you are free to leave.
You obviously don't know the different between going back home after quiting and an exit permit.
Employers don't 'let' them leave because the employers think that they can do that.
As for your other question, you are sponsored within the country which means that he has a duty to ensure that the person that he sponsors isn't a criminal. All he has to do is say that you have no debt, obligations or warrants on you.
But still, get this through your head. QUITTING A JOB and an EXIT PERMIT are TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
So now, tell me where I am lieing?
Just in case there is any confusion I'll make it simple.
If you want to go no vacation, you need permission.
You want to go home after quiting, your contract has ended, you have no debt or obligations, you can leave, just call the Ministry of Labour if you face difficulties.
What's funny is that you all seriously don't even know your rights and then want to treat what you think you know as fact.
Go seek legal aid.
/-a-t-/senyorita, A Qatari needs approval to marry a non Qatari / GCC citizen. Not everyone.
Oh and by the way, I don't come and check every single thread I've posted on 24/7
Next time before calling someone a liar when they're trying to explain your rights and fighting to give, what seems to be, underserving people, more rights, how about you ask for clarification. Shame on you all.
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charanmafiriyals said
askme ...Why you bother about Qatar. Bother about ANWAR EBRAHIM :)
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chelsea_5706 said
Duh! ...In any City you go, life will suck if u dont have enough dough!
Live Life free of worries
saadi703 said
Yes, cost of living is very ...Yes, cost of living is very high.
Salary? No salary is not low. People are making handsome amount of money rather some make bombastic :) Obviously I am not one of those.
The salary depends on few factors. Its better to leave then to keep on complaining. It is better to fing a place suitable for you. So stop complaining people :)
babydoll said
Choice is yours.. ...Choice to stay here or not..
if you wanna stay then DEAL with it no matter what..
Choice to leave .. then find better opportunities.
-by the way my salary sucks too but i chose to live with it and DEAL with it..
Living in doha has NO ROOM FOR complains-
and.. what your cost depends on your lifestyle, mabye if your short then change your LIFESTYLE.. just advice :)
"letting go doesn't mean ur weak,only shows you're stronger to let go"
saadi703 said
I totally agree. My point ...I totally agree. My point exactly :)
qqknows said
Qalli Walli ...Qalli Walli, Just leave it to experience... contract finished then yalllahh rooo billad...