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So sad to hear of this and really angry at the moronic element in our society..
Hope the thugs are caught and punished and my prayers for the family..
via Daily Mail on 25th August 2008
A murder probe is under way after a foreign student aged 16 died in hospital following a 'racial' attack.
The boy, who was visiting Britain from Qatar in the Middle East, was attacked by a mob outside a kebab shop in Hastings, East Sussex.
He suffered serious head injuries in the late-night attack on Friday and died last night at King's College Hospital in London.
The youngster was rushed to hospital and later transferred to the King's College Hospital, London, where he died late on Sunday night.
A youth aged 17 and two men aged 18 and 20 have been arrested and released on bail pending further inquiries.
Detective Chief Inspector Graham Pratt, who is leading the investigation, said: 'I am appealing for anyone who witnessed the assault to contact police.
'It was a busy time of the evening and there were many young people in the area. I am sure many of them would have seen what happened'
A Sussex Police spokesman said today: 'Police are currently treating his death as a murder inquiry, and are investigating it as racially motivated at this time.'
Chief Insp Natalie Carron, from East Sussex Division, added: 'The young man had spent about five weeks in Hastings and was due to return home next weekend. His death is incredibly sad.
'We will have a uniformed presence in the area to reassure people and will continue to work with the language schools to address any issues.
Hastings attracts up to 50,000 foreign students to its English summer schools each year.
'The problems and issues they are involved in are very few in comparison to these large numbers,' said Ms Carron.
'Notwithstanding this, no matter how rare an incident like this is, the effect on the young man's family and tragic consequences can only be imagined.'
The dead boy's identity has yet to be confirmed by police.
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someonenew said
Really sad... I dream of a ...Really sad...
I dream of a better tomorrow where Chickens can cross the Road without having their motives questioned - Unknown
labda06 said
Geez, when will this crap ...Geez, when will this crap ever end...so sad!! :(
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
gerrit.booyens said
Oh boy, this is so wrong.I ...really feel sorry for the family of the student. Here in South Africa this type of thing happens all the time. Kids get killed in schools, hijacked and raped . Terrable.
These thugs should be removed from society - permanently.
SheDBabe said
Innallilahi Wa Innailahi Rajioon.. ...May God grant peace to the soul of the boy.. So sad! May those responsible get the punishment they deserve..Sickening to read of such things..As Labda said when will this hatred & evil end?? May god protect us all..
kimd said
So sad,he has been named as ...So sad,he has been named as Mohammed Al Majed.My condolences to his family.
May your dreams take you travelling all through your life.
manyana said
OMG.... ...This is so sad..May he rest in peace. What can i say England is getting worse by the minute with teenage kills and stabbing....they need a smack in the head.
Meaningful said
Ina Lilah w Ina Ilahi ...Ina Lilah w Ina Ilahi Rajoun...its really sad!
I dont live with example..Reather I prefer to be an example!
Qatari1 said
Allah Yrhmah, I wish all ...Allah Yrhmah,
I wish all who are studying in U.K. including me are far away from drinkers, thief, criminals, drug addicts that they usually showing at night.
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umm-salayum said
very sad ...allahu musta'an...
signs of the last hour:
The Prophet (saas) describes the increase of murder in the End Times in these words:
The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until murder will increase.
(Bukhari )
stealth said
Imagine the same scenario ...Imagine the same scenario happening in Qatar in reverse. All the world would be having a field day.
koolkat said
So sad, ...a nigerian teenager DAMMYLOLA TAYLOR was also killed some years back on his way from school one evening,up till now,i dont think they have found the killers.Sincerely,when u hear stories like this,u wonder what dis World is turning into,there seems to be no safe place anymore.I pray that God will give the family the fortitude to bear this great loss.
SheDBabe said
Yes Sis Umm Sulaym.. ...Indeed.. May God have mercy on us all..Such is the state of our world today!Murders are now committed so openly & casually..Its frighting to say the least..Audubillah!
princess habibah said
May Allah forgive and guide ...May Allah forgive and guide the ones who committed such injustice! And bless his family many times over.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
diamond said
I heard about this at the ...I heard about this at the weekend. Poor boy and family. They are in shock and cannot understand how this happened.
What a waste. What was the point? It really makes me mad.
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7aasebToua3 said
this is a direct result ...of the amount of hatred, racism & brain washing that the western media is inserting in the heads of the people there
heero_yuy2 said
And I thought terrorism was bad ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
AbuAmerican said
Inalillah wa ina alahi ...Inalillah wa ina alahi ragioon
goodlookin said
what a joke ...What a complete over reaction to one murder in a big country. How many people are killed in Qatar everyday? That’s right...we don’t know because it is never reported. I lived in the UK for 22 years, but I have never encountered as much racism in my life as I have in my last year in Qatar. If you dig up the Qatari desert I wonder how many Indian, Filipino, Nepali bodies you’ll find!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The UK may not be perfect, but at least we admit and know that instead of covering it up.
Oryx said
Ashamed ...I am totally ashamed .... after everything Qatar gives me.
If they want to study the Qataris are better off in New Zealand or somewhere.
thoughts and prayers are with the family
and no dont blame it on media propaganda... no excuse
this is just a heinous crime.
Oryx said
Goodlookin' ...shame on you
have some compassion for the family
it may only be a statistic to you but it was a son, a brother and a friend to others....
Alexa said
May Allah have mercy on his ...May Allah have mercy on his soul and give strength to his family at this terrible time.
It makes me so angry to hear about things like this.
Mindless baffoons, they are a shame for humanity.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
princess habibah said
Such a crime however I ...Such a crime however I wonder, if weighed on a scale the greater crime committed here is by those who taught these boys to hate. We always focus on the crimes however we do little to focus on the enviroment which grooms such crime to happen.
May Allah grant the boys family sabr and understanding inshAllah alahumma ameen.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
goodlookin said
Oryx...lol I'm sorry but ...Oryx...lol
I'm sorry but maybe you’re missing the point. How many 'racially motivated' murders are there everyday across the world. Why is this anymore important the rest? Why is this direct of result of brain washing and hatred of the western media? Why is the UK being portrayed as a gangland where it is no worse than Paris, Rome, or Doha?
It goes without saying and stating the obvious that I have compassion for the family and friends.
britexpat said
PH.. ...The simple fact is that they were mindless morons who got drunk and killed an innocent person. Please don't make excuses for them..
princess habibah said
Probably because it is the ...Probably because it is the only time people will start taking issues surrounding such crimes seriously Goodlookin!
Take into consideration that no matter where this would have happened the focus would have been the same.
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Aisha-Taweela said
Goodlooking, are you aware ...Goodlooking, are you aware of what is going on? Do you see those articles?
Just read the dailies. The other day a 16 year old boy was thrown off a roof, 7 stories high while he was trying to escape from a knife wielding gang, a 18year old was stabbed in London. The 24th knife victim this year in the capital etc etc. Everyday you see articles like that. Stupid senseless crime is on the rise in the UK. And you can only make stupid remarks about people being buried in the desert? Where do you get this from?
Shame on you. Accept what is happening, and feel bad about what is going on instead of pointing fingers at things you do not know anything about.
Aisha-Taweela
dragonfly212 said
go check in youtube about ...go check in youtube about the gang criminal action. is really shocking. whats happening to our youth nowadays????
why no more sit around the fire and play guitar and tell story/jokes till dawn. i miss my youth time.
Everybody is right everybody is wrong, it depend where you stand
goodlookin said
Ahhhhhhhhhh the UK is in ...Ahhhhhhhhhh the UK is in meltdown, when I return to the mean streets of Sussex I'll be sure to pack my bullet proof jacket and tank! This forum is like reading the Daily Mail sometimes...PANIC PANIC!
"Goodlooking, are you aware of what is going on?" Well yes, I am from the worst town in Sussex...I is a Crawley Boy!!!
LOOK...this was a horrific unprovoked murder and I’m not defending the murderers or saying everything is ok in the UK. All I wish to point out is that the UK is no more dangerous than the rest of Europe and most of the world.
Aisha-Taweela...just because you don’t read about it in the newspapers, does that mean it never happened?
Is it worse to live in country where every crime, flaw and accusation is reported or a country where everything covered up and the newspapers are nothing but glorified advertisements?
notfromhere said
So very sad. Condolences to ...So very sad. Condolences to the family.
Goodlookin, nobody said this was more important than any other, or that murders don't happen anywhere else.
But murder is sad and tragic no matter where it takes place. People who are touched by this are posting their sympathies and condolences here.
Salmamohd said
May his soul rest n ...May his soul rest n peace....
zhbali said
soo sad ...So sad,he has been named as Mohammed Al Majed.My condolences to his family.
May your dreams take you travelling all through your life.
amnesia said
When I was in the UK I had ...When I was in the UK I had to deal with a lot of racial comments being shouted my way as soon as they discovered I was arabic or Muslim.
So did my chinese friends.
It's sad. They didn't even care that I was half British, once they know you've got Arabic blood they treat you differently.
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baldrick2dogs said
Damn (pardon the language) ...There's so much hate crime in UK now it makes me embarrassed to admit to being a Brit. It's only this latest generation too. The Nanny State that Britain is becoming is partially to blame for this. In my day a belt to the arse was enough to deter most kids from doing wrong. Now kids are suing their parents for disciplining them. Sad indeed.
I grew up friends with a Pakistani boy - Manza Mowla - great kid. His dad was very clever - maths teacher I think. They were the only 'non-white' family in town. Manza was 'different' but kids back then only saw 'different', not "Paki" or any onther derogatory name. Why can't we all just get along?
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Loulsy said
GoodLooking ...No one said anything about UK.. in all countries there is racism.. but here ppl if you noticed are merely sending condolences.. no one bothered pointing a finger bcz at that moment they were thinking that there is a young 16 yr old boy who had just died bcz his mistake was to be in a certain place and of a certain nationality.
I think at such moments everyone should be able to overlook their prejudices and put down their defenses and think of those who are facing a challenge they didnt expect! go to the Gult Times and read the article.. it is not discriminating whatsoever but very informative with full details on what happened that night.
My condolences to the Family
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britexpat said
Baldrick.. ...I don't agree that there is more hate crime, however, I totally agree that there needs to be more discipline and accountability for the kids.
The government needs to take a harsher line with the moronic element.
SamyaUK said
Oh No :( ...This is so sad... I know so many Qatari's studying in Hastings, the problem with Hastings is its a very "white" area not like London where u find all mixed nationalities and cultures... I visited a Qatari friend in hastings once and we were too scared to hit the bars so they usually would drive down to London for the weekends... Its so sad... Stuff like this makes me ashamed to be British although i do love my country
My prayers go out to his family :(
Bahraini83 said
thats sad :( may his soul ...thats sad :(
may his soul rest in peace .. may the criminal be arrested and punished as he/she deserves
May Allah give his family the patience to pass his momory
britexpat said
SamyaUK.. ...My sons all went to Boarding School near hastings. You are right, its a CHAV area mainly. However, there are hundreds of foreign students living in the area.
To me, this crime whilst racial in nature was caused by alchol. This is something we as a society and especially the government need to address.
irrysa said
yeah, i've read about it ...yeah, i've read about it today in GT, front page.
it's sad that such things happen anywhere for no reason.
my condolences to the family and may he rest in God's beloved embrace.
at the same time, i do agree that in Qatar many things are simply being hushed-down.
If you're looking for a problem, you're probably gonna find one.
SamyaUK said
Britexpat its not the alcohol... ...U cant blame the alcohol its the mentality of these people... Some people just hate Arabs and Asians and thats a fact, they would go out of their way to bully or even beat them even if they were sober... It all starts with "what r u looking at" reply the wrong way and u could get jumped... Hit in the head in the wrong place and your dead its simple... Trust me ive heard so many stories of Arabs and Asians in the UK getting killed or seriously injured and all for such dumb things... Once of my ex boyfriends who was an arab in London got stabbed 4 times in the stomache at a petrol station because he jumped the que, it was late at night and three guys jumped him and stabbed him... Its really sad...
7aasebToua3 said
goodlookin ...you are, yet, another living proof of those westerners who are being continuously brain-washed with racism & hatred against other nations, by their media/governments.
Go & read the article in the newspaper. The (foreign)witness (Dr.Tanriverdi) himself, has been assaulted for 25 times. Isn't this the typical environment where you come from?
And remember, such racist crimes NEVER happen in this part of the world. Prove me wrong if you can! Show me a Qatari or any Gulf citizen who has killed an expat for pure racist reasons
Gypsy said
Goodlooking, just a crazy ...Goodlooking, just a crazy thought here, perhaps we are discussing it because it was a 16 year old Qatari and *SHOCK AND AWE* THIS IS QATAR!! seriously, pull your head out of your azz.
My sympathies go out to the family.
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Oryx said
Amensia ...I just frequently lie about my nationality.... to avoid hassle...
And Samyas right...go to another area like Manchester...where it is more racially diverse.
yeah yeah 7aaseb...all evil brainwashed morons... Ramadan Kareem to you and all the rest.
Oryx said
Gypo ...Gypo he is from Sussex... all merchant bankers down there..
another one for the list of...hope I never get stuck in a lift with you...if I do I will pretend I am deaf.
Gypsy said
77aaseb, Did you ever think ...77aaseb, Did you ever think of perhaps being slightly less racist yourself when you make posts? Just a suggestion, because usually any point you do have is lost in the vomit of hatred you tend to spew out.
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7aasebToua3 said
but that's OK, gypo ...when you deal with such hateful people, there is no problem in vomitting more hate back on them. Actually it might be the only way to deal with them.
Gypsy said
Actually all that does is ...Actually all that does is create more hatred back. Rather then having a meaningful discussion and actually reaching solutions.
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Mis-Cat said
Rumple !!!! My Old friend ...I was wondering where you had gotten too..Still spewing Anti Western sentiments I see, yet still choosing to be from some obscure little Island that has a Western Ruling Body.....
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7aasebToua3 said
Gypo, the only solution/justice I see ...for the family of that 16 year old Qatari boy, is by executing his murderer(s)!
No problem if this will create more hatred.
Since their environment is encouraging them to be hateful racists, then they should expect such consequences.
If my son has committed such a racist crime, then I don't mind seeing pay (even with his life) to his crime
Arien said
I dont see a solution ...I dont see a solution anywhere Gypsy..
This is ridiculous and should be addressd, Imagine the pain of those parents who lost a young one. Those brutes should be hanged to death.
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britexpat said
Arien and 7aasebToua3 .. ...Agreed. The punishment has to fit the crime. The problem is that the legal system is pretty wishy washy in my opinion. Even if found guilty of first degree nurder, they'll probably get 20 years max..
Gypsy said
7aaseb your thinking just ...7aaseb your thinking just leads to a world full of more violence and death. It's a quick fix answer that solves absolutely nothing in the long run.
Arien, the UK (and many other places in the world) need to address issues of racism, violence amongst youths, etc. Social programs need to be put in place, the roots of the problem need to be addressed and people need to be educated.
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janeyjaney said
7aaseb.. ...I agree. Those who commit such heinous crimes must be given the death penalty in return!! But seriously, you really wouldn't mind even if your son had to pay for his dear life??
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Gypsy said
Ok so you've killed these ...Ok so you've killed these people and what's the outcome??? The boy hasn't been brought back to life and nothing's being done to stop the crime from happening again. We've just killed more people.
Wow, what a great answer.
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7aasebToua3 said
so is killing the people of Afghanistan ...bringing the dead people of the trade towers back to life?
Gypsy said
Nope not at all. Visit ...Nope not at all.
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7aasebToua3 said
See? ...life is unfair.
And since the killing went on Afganistan, then there is no harm if these hateful murderers in the UK, are killed too!
Same rules of the game!
Gypsy said
Or we could call for our ...Or we could call for our governments to stop killing in Afganistan. Eventually you do have to stop using killing and violence as the answer to everything. An eye for an eye only creates a world of the blind.
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MagicDragon said
in your understanding, ...in your understanding, 7aseeb, the whole world is in a state of war and martial law applies?: Right?
Pajju said
so sad ...so sad
7aasebToua3 said
You are right ...and until the governments withdraw their troops from other people's countries & stop the killing the civilians, then the only way to deal with them is by killing them & their civilians.
If they will not listen to you when you call them to stop the killings, then they would have to taste the same poison. That is pure justice
MagicDragon said
you know very well that law ...you know very well that law and justice have nothing in common (First semester, studying law). But justice has to be left to somebody who has the right to perform it. And in many people's view only God has the right to perform justice.
Gypsy said
Not much of a follower of ...Not much of a follower of Ghandi or Martin Luther King are you 7assseb. Actually I would say it would be far more effective to take a peaceful stand against invading forces thereby creating more outrage from the rest of the world.
Also in many cases, these governments won't leave until peace has been established, if people keep killing soliders, the soliders will turn around and kill the people and so on and so forth.
When does it end?
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7aasebToua3 said
No magic ...there are 100's of countries that are living peacefully because they respect themselves by respecting ALL humanity, irrelevant of race or beliefs.
Take NZ for example. Very peaceful country, happy & friendly people, although they are a mixture of many!
There is a very peculiar example; Denmark! Look how peaceful & quiet it was, when it was respecting all humans/religions, and look at the hate it triggered when it started doing the opposite!
albe said
Truly sad. ...Why does the world coin the term "developed world", when colour of skin or religion is the criterion to be treated as a human???
MagicDragon said
gypsy, you cannot expect him ...gypsy, you cannot expect him to sacrifice his life for an "idea". You're asking too much.
MagicDragon said
by the way, there is no ...by the way, there is no death penalty in Denmark. So what would you do in this special case?
Gypsy said
7asseb you aren't very ...7asseb you aren't very familiar with whats happening in the world are you. There are most defintely not 100's of countries living in peace and respecting all humanity and irrevalent of race or beliefs. Just because a country isn't involved in a war outside of it's own borders doesn't mean everything is hunky dory inside. The cartoons in Denmark were a result of internal strife, most notably demand from immigrant Muslims for Shariah law, and backlash from anti-Islamic groups. Also, the wars around the world right now effect everyone.
Case in point however, despite the hundreds dead the cartoons keep resurfacing. So killing people hasn't stopped anything has it, in fact, it's goaded anti-Islamists and supporters of free speech to publish them even more.
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britexpat said
Albe.. ...Obama is in line to becom ethe President of the most powerful nation in the world (After UK that is).
He is Black and allegedly a Muslim..
So your argument does not hold water..
Arien said
Brit.. Again its a big ...Brit.. Again its a big controversy when it comes to the question capital punishment OR death sentence..
Gypsy .. You are right but how far it can change the mindset of people , so far the colour differs.. I dont see hopes..
I think UK is not at all a safe place for sending the kiddos for education..would rather prefer US, canada, NZ
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Gypsy said
"developed world" refers to ..."developed world" refers to industrial development.
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Gypsy said
Arien, so long as the ...Arien, so long as the majority of the world views things the way 7aaseb does, I don't think peace will ever come.
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exiledsaint said
Who protects the citizens of their country ...from their rulers if those rulers kill or direct their own people to be killed? Should the UN just stand by and say its just 'internal politics'??
MagicDragon said
gypsy, this link is for ...gypsy, this link is for you
http://en.wikipedia....
Gypsy said
Absolutely not. However ...Absolutely not. However there's more ways to oust a ruler then by violence or promoting violence.
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Gypsy said
Thanks MD, but that's not a ...Thanks MD, but that's not a list of countrie experiencing internal issues due to racism, etc. Even Canada has it's issues, that have led to murders. No country is exempt.
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MR PAUL said
Face it, ALL countries have problems.Just that crimes are been ...reported more and more in the UK.
And to Qatari 1....
"Allah Yrhmah,
I wish all who are studying in U.K. including me are far away from drinkers, thief, criminals, drug addicts that they usually showing at night."
If yer think its really that bad, and yer dont like it, then why study there ?
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7aasebToua3 said
"When does it end?" ...I don't know! You tell me, Gypo!
Imagine you come from work 1 day to find that some strangers have killed your parents/husband/kids and have taken your house to live in it (because 1 of their great grandfathers has lived in this spot a 1000 light years ago)!
You you act Ghandish, leave them, go buy another house & adopt new parents/husband/kids?
I prefer to fight back until justice is served or we kill each other!
Also, and to support my theory; if you are doomed & going to be killed anyway, then why try to be peaceful with the bastards who are going to kill you any way? Why not take some of their lives with you?
Gypsy said
Mr. Paul, all countries have ...Mr. Paul, all countries have crimes, but I personally think the UK is coming up to a bit of cross-roads (other Western countries are quickly approaching it as well).
Drug use in the UK is ridiculously high, and racial tensions are extrememly high and these issues need to be addressed before things become more violent.
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MagicDragon said
yeah, there are more ways to ...yeah, there are more ways to get rid of a ruler: impeachement. Can you imagine they will do that to Assad of Syria or Ghaddafi of Lybia, gypsy?
force1 said
His name was Mohammed Al ...His name was Mohammed Al Majed. Rest In Peace
7aasebToua3 said
Very true ..."If yer think its really that bad, and yer dont like it, then why study there ?"
The same goes to goodlookin!
If he thinks that Qataris kill expatriates for racist reasons, then go back to where you came from and forget about the extra bucks you are making here!
Gypsy said
7aaseb, as a Canadian I've ...7aaseb, as a Canadian I've elected and support a justice system that will punish the people who've killed my family. I won't make myself as bad as them by turning around and killing them or their families.
As for doomed, no I don't think we are, Inshallah more people are beginning to think like me, then think like you.
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MR PAUL said
Gyps, i agree with the drug useage part.Unfortunately, it seems ...to be a cancer of the modern world.
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MagicDragon said
well, 7aseeb, then in your ...well, 7aseeb, then in your words:"If yer think its really that bad, and yer dont like it, then why study there ?"
If you study in Britain, don't complain when you get killed?
Gypsy said
MD, impeachment only works ...MD, impeachment only works in countries where there is already respect for the democratic process. If there's no respect for the democratic process or human life in general, it won't work. However, I don't think it's the right of other countries to invade and oust a ruler. There are economic sanctions, funding protest groups. Etc.
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MR PAUL said
For once Mr Rumpel, i agree with ya,to a point. ...After all, we ALL chose to come here, including me,you,Gyps and even this Goodlookin person.
But please dont judge ALL Brits by Goodlookin, most of us are nice,respectful people.The same as the majority of Iraqi people, we all just wanna live our lives.
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Gypsy said
Yup it is and each country ...Yup it is and each country needs to start taking more serious action on it.
Do I think this murder was in part fueled by drugs, probably.
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MagicDragon said
UN sanctions are not ...UN sanctions are not working, gypsy. (Israel, Iran, North Korea, Sudan...)
Arien said
The change is nowhere ...The change is nowhere near....
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