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Mother killed baby daughter in microwave
"A mother in the United States has been found guilty of murdering her baby daughter by cooking her in a microwave. China Arnold, 28, put one-month-old Paris Talley in the oven after a fight with her boyfriend.
A jury yesterday found her guilty of aggravated murder and she was remanded for sentencing, with the prospect that she could face the death penalty.
Arnold showed no reaction when the verdict was announced at a court in Dayton, Ohio, but wept as she was led from the dock. Relatives in the courtroom cried and covered their faces with their hands.
At the time of the murder in August 2005, Arnold, her four children and her then boyfriend, Terrell Talley, lived together in a flat on a housing complex in Dayton.
Arnold claimed someone else had killed the child. An eight-year-old boy told the court he saw another boy walk into the kitchen of a nearby apartment with the baby, heard the microwave go on, and later saw the burned baby in the oven.
But Paris's DNA was found inside a microwave in Arnold's apartment, prosecutors said. A forensic pathologist testified that the baby died after being in the microwave for more than two minutes.
Defence lawyer Jon Paul Rion said Arnold was too drunk to remember events on the night of the murder. She had a blood-alcohol level nearly four times the legal driving limit.
Arnold told a cellmate that she put the baby in the microwave because she feared her boyfriend would leave her if he found out the child was not his.
Jurors, who returned their verdict after eight hours' deliberation, will return on Tuesday to consider whether Arnold should face the death penalty."
Thia is just beyond me!!! Mothers all around the world have been known to commit infanticide whilst suffering mental stress and/or post-natal depression; I can only assume this woman's brain 'broke' at the time, any other reason is too horrific and disturbing to even comprehend. Don't get me wrong, what she did is beyond words and she should face the full force of the law but it is even more vomit inducing to consider that she may have been sane at the time!
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coelacanth said
Put her inside the Microwave ...Put her inside the Microwave oven for 30mins so that she'll feel what the baby felt during the 2 minutes of torture! I hate it when people kill children...worst babies...and much worse...mother killing her own child. SICK!!!!
It's not because things are difficult that we don't dare, it's because we don't dare that makes things difficult!
Rizks said
WTF ...... SICK SICK SICK ...WTF ......
SICK SICK SICK people.....we find in this World..!!
I wished i was the lawyer and i would hav punished tat Bl*dy MF Mother but putting her in tat oven for atleast an HR....
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AbuAmerican said
Worthy of the death sentence ...Worthy of the death sentence in my opinion
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Stratty said
Murder by the state might ...Murder by the state might satisfy your outrage, but it wont stop it happening again - otherwise it wouldnt have happened this time. Worth it? Enough punishment points?
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owen said
:( ...this woman shouldn't be put on the cell but on a mental assylum.. sick!
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
Gypsy said
4 kids by 28, 4 different ...4 kids by 28, 4 different Dads (probably not sure who the fathers are). I think you should need to get a license before you're allowed to have kids.
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QT said
Right Gypsy, no license, that'll stop them having sex! ...lol
Gypsy said
Nah, I'm wondering if you ...Nah, I'm wondering if you can't sterilize people by force.
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MagicDragon said
gypsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ...gypsy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Gypsy said
I don't want to sterilize ...I don't want to sterilize people to create an Arayan race MD. I want to sterilize people to try and prevent children being born into situations were their parents toast them in microwaves.
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Alexa said
Hmmm, maybe it could be made ...Hmmm, maybe it could be made into a sentence...when people commit a certain crime, like the one mentioned, this sentence could be applied....
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
QT said
I'm sure Hitler came up with a similiar excuse! ...:-P
Gypsy said
Yes, I'm sure Hitler say ...Yes, I'm sure Hitler say back and said all those brown haired people like to burn their children in microwaves, we need to stop them from breeding.
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Alexa said
QT, that may be so...but the ...QT, that may be so...but the people we are talking about now are not Hitler...so they may actually do things the right way. At least there is a possibility.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
MagicDragon said
It doesn't matter what your ...It doesn't matter what your intentions are, gypsy. You were always defending democracy, you urged education to be enforced. You had a social view so far. What made you change your mind to use "force" all of a sudden?
QT said
Gypsy, Alexa, Lets just start with education & poverty, yes? ......these "basics" that we still haven't managed to get right yet should solve many of these problems!
QT said
MD, Gypsy isn't serious about that! (I hope) ...:-P
Gypsy said
My desire to have people ...My desire to have people sterilized isn't new. I grew up working with child welfare agencies, orphanages, etc. I know that there's no practical way to enforce it, or really anyway to stop people from having children that doesn't go against human rights. But a gal can dream can't she?
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MagicDragon said
of course not, QT. Imagine, ...of course not, QT. Imagine, with her name, she wouldn't even have survived then!
Alexa said
QT...seriously, I do not ...QT...seriously, I do not believe that education and the demise of poverty helps in all cases. I have seen people who are very educated and wealthy do horrid things to to others.
I have seen poor ,uneducated people being offered education and not wanting it because a life in crime is much less work intense...sorry, but i think your view on things is too idealistic, too far removed from the rather ugly reality.
Please note, I said ""ALL cases", meaning that in some cases it will help.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
labda06 said
Like the mother who stuck ...Like the mother who stuck her baby in a freezer because she couldnt get him to stop crying.
This is absolutely pathetic. How come to become an adoptive parent one must go through all kinds of scrutiny but to get preggers, well, no one pays any mind.
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
QT said
Alexa, I agree, hence I said "...should solve MANY of these ......problems!"
I admit, they won't solve them all!
Gypsy said
I hope they come up with a ...I hope they come up with a form of birth control someday that you just give to girls and boys at the age of like 11 and they'll just be sterilized until they pass a bunch of tests to prove themselves good parents, then they can have the antidote.
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Alexa said
QT..in my opinion it may ...QT..in my opinion it may solve a few......but i do agree, education must be made available and accessible to all.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
MagicDragon said
I hope they come up with a ...I hope they come up with a form of education someday that you just give to girls and boys at the age of like 11 and they'll just be prepared and informed until they pass a bunch of tests to prove themselves good parents, then they can have the s*x.
Gypsy said
Easier to sterilize people ...Easier to sterilize people then to stop them from having sex. And education doesn't really solve the problem, some of the most uneducated people are some of the world's best parents, while some of the most educated are some of the worst.
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QT said
Gypsy, MD, I wish they come up with something to give to ...11/12 years old where they just became intelligent and compansionate!
Oh wait, they have it already, it's called "Good Parenting!"
labda06 said
What needs to happen is ...What needs to happen is there must be a worldwide ban on all these daft love songs that play on emotions and drive women, and men, to unthinkables!!
Im only half joking. Seriously.
Post nastal depression should be given more media coverage as well.
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
MagicDragon said
I think if your ...I think if your "sterilizing" policy comes true, gypsy, we'll have a new crime rising: baby-kidnapping.
Gypsy said
Labda, I agree, post-natal ...Labda, I agree, post-natal depression really needs to be given more attention.
People already kidnap babies MD, and it'd be easier to find out who kidnapped them, since they wouldn't have a license.
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MagicDragon said
"Post natal depression"? ..."Post natal depression"? labda? When my first child was born I had another Jack Daniel's. When my second child was born I had a few more Jack Daniel's.
labda06 said
LOL ...LOL MagicDragon....hahahhaahaha!!
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teena maria said
The baby is so innocent,the ...The baby is so innocent,the hury should not think twice,she's a murderer! Death penalty is the only answer!
princess habibah said
I have to say that I feel ...I have to say that I feel the same way sometimes about people getting pregnant. I can never understand how God allows people to have children when they treat them so badly.
however if it were the case then I would probably vote for all of southern california to stop having children because I believe raising them in this rat race is also just as inhumane as beating them!
So where do we draw the line on such things? And when does this type of thinking take us away from putting our trust in God.
Horrible things happen and I can only have hope that God has an ultimate plan and reasoning behind all of this. All of a sudden Heaven is starting to sound a great reward for those who have and will suffer in this world.
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Glenndale said
Lock her up and remind her of her Crime Daily.. ...I think we should look long and hard at the society we want to bring children into, if there is a situation of no future worthy of bringing children up, ie stable household, and viable parents. That poor child paid with it's life, for being in the wrong household and being born to the wrong mother. I think the death penalty is a cop out here, let her spend 25 years in jail remembering every day the torture and pain that she caused, that would be the punishment of my choosing.
SheDBabe said
You are right PH ...Indeed God always has a plan..& He is the best of planners..Horrific incidences like this are indeed a test to our Eeman. Take the example of my very close friend who has undergone various infertility treatments but to no avail..She has still not been blessed with a child..Imagine then when she reads of such stuff what it would do to her Eeman? We can only make dua for the victims of such evil & pray God Will re compensate them with that which is better..Meanwhile those in authority should do all it takes to ensure such incidences don't get repeated..Maximum penalty should be applied in such cases! As a mother I cant imagine what evil can drive a woman to doing such a horrific thing to her own child..Truly the devils of humans can be worse than the devils of Jin.. Allahu Must'aan!
Scotiabank said
glenndale - someone who is ...glenndale - someone who is capable of killing their own flesh and blood is not going to have any thoughts of how much pain they've caused. They are just too evil to think about anybody else.
AbuAmerican said
Stratty I accept your ...Stratty I accept your reasoning but then what do we do with these people? Let them live out their years in jail leeching off the peoples taxes?
I dunno man just doesn't seem fair to give them a place to stay and food with psychological treatment all because they killed their kids or another human being.
I think the people who commit crimes like this are sorta past rehabilitation or whatever we are seeking when we imprison them. We cant set them back on the streets in 10 0r 20 years can we?
Anyhow I suggest the death penalty for lack of a better solution.
It was nice to meet you face to face dude! Some of us are going to continue BJJ through ramadan so give me a ring if you need a ride man!
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Stratty said
Thats a good idea,and I'd ...Thats a good idea,and I'd appreciate the ride, thanx - it was a good lunch yesterday :)
Gypsy said
I suggest they're put in ...I suggest they're put in general population. They get killed, it hurts, and it's already in the hands of criminals.
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thexonic said
What a pathetic wh*re. How ...What a pathetic wh*re. How could someone be so heartless...
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britexpat said
She has been sentenced to ...She has been sentenced to life in prison without parole..
"No adjectives exist to adequately describe this heinous atrocity," Judge Mary Wiseman told China Arnold.
"This act is shocking and utterly abhorrent for a civilised society," the judge said,
She has asked for a retrial..
MAJID said
that wonman should be hang ...that wonman should be hang till dead other wise kill her with wise sward..
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Salmamohd said
what da fuck.....she should ...what da fuck.....she should b just put in da same oven n just do da same wat da bitch did wd her child....she was a bitch coz she had 4 kids n den dat also frm different fathers ....she must b punished badly for wat she did.....
Gypsy said
What does her having four ...What does her having four kids from different fathers have to do with it? Salamaohd, it's called proper English, learn to write in it.
wizz14 said
Is death penalty allowed ? ...Is death penalty allowed ?
Salmamohd said
ok...teach me atleast u knw ...ok...teach me atleast u knw dis proper english of urs....
t_coffee_or_me said
Pass the bobcorn n bebsi ...Pass the bobcorn n bebsi please
Oryx said
Slamamohd ...did a pig prick drop on your head
oh sorry I meant Big Brick.... you see when you dont write clearly it can cause unecessary offense.
corleone said
lol that'd be one tight ...lol that'd be one tight corkscrew...
anyhow, the chinese do have compulsory sterilization after one child.. yes?
Salmamohd said
do u think dat wat i wrote u ...do u think dat wat i wrote u din understand????
Dii said
Sick ...Waevr she did to her child is extremely sick...she should be in an asylum for sure.