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increasing level of crime
we keep hearing in the news or reading in the papers about a maintenance guy who stabs a tenent in Dubai in order to rob his money, or a shopper who stabs a chashier in Doha in order to rob the money from the shop, or a pedistrian snatching cash from an ATM user in Abu Dhabi...etc...etc
Why is the level of crime, increasing in the GCC? Why are these crimes, that are somewhat "strange" to the lifestyle, here, are becoming common?
I think that the main reason are those who are becoming heartless towards their brother humans, and started increasing rents, food, and other necessities of live, in an ugly & greedy manner, without considering to increase the wages/salaries of those poor workers who are finding it almost impossible to survive with the few Dirhams/Riyals they get each month.
Those heartless people will be sorry when they realize that the environment will not be safe anymore!
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QT said
I find myself agreeing with you on this matter 7aaseb ......and what solutions have you though of?
7aasebToua3 said
Thanx QT ...I suggest that they should consider to provide a decent living standards to the poor workers.
Those in senior positions can cut down on alcohol, petrol, sweets, ice cream...etc. But the poor working class can not cut down on bread.
So the working class have a priority in salary increase.
QT said
7aaseb, the solutions are ofcourse very simple indeed! ......as it's common sense. The implementation of the principles however are going to prove to be extremely difficult! Especially since the law-makers and implementors are the once currently benefitting!
anahmed said
Its .. ...Its not only about being heartless... the main motive behind these crimes if observed normally is money. Isn't it always true that the expenses of living always effect the living styles of people.
So when the cost of living goes high.. income comes down then the crime rates goes high as well...So being more strict will help at some point but the main culprit is the COST OF LIVING.
Never Ask for a SMILE..just GIVE it..
7aasebToua3 said
Wow, anahmed! ...Great point of view! I NEVER thought of it this way! Thanx!
Gypsy said
I agree, poverty is the ...I agree, poverty is the number one cause of crime, and as the cost of living increases and wages aren't increased to cope people will resort to crime. The more certain people flaunt their wealth, the more they'll become targets.
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britexpat said
Gypsy.. ...Agree about the poverty aspect, but are you saying that those well off or who can afford it should not show it publicly ?
Alexa said
I have lived in countries ...I have lived in countries where, if you show wealth, you are sure to get robbed and hurt.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
Gypsy said
I think that it doesn't help ...I think that it doesn't help to rub salt in people's wounds. If you drive through a labour camp in a lamborghini what do you think peoples reaction is going to be?? Frankly, if it were me, and looking at that car and knowing the price of it could feed my family for 5 years, I'd be tempted towards violence.
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SheDBabe said
I agree with Gypsy.. ...Truly those blessed in wealth should not go around flaunting it.. Even in Islam we are advised "Hide your blessings" this is due to such reasons..Cos the flaunting of blessings in any form will bring about in those less blessed envy,jealousy,hatred etc that can lead them to committing evil acts..Its always a blessing to be humble & considerate specially among the less fortunate & this does not only apply to wealth!
Gypsy said
I'm disappointed. 7aasseb ...I'm disappointed. 7aasseb has actually posted a decent topic, worth decent discussion and people are avoiding it. And he's not even being his usual hateful self. I think more people should post here.
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QT said
I agree Gypsy, very strange! ...hmmm...
Amoud said
I have been here more than a ...I have been here more than a decade and have seen the plight of the immigrant labors worsen with each passing year.
I have been told 'hey, they are making 100 times more here than what they make at home' or 'they send every cent of it back to their country and in 10 years they live like kings' I am saddened by this as people who are benefiting from the sweat of their backs are justifying it to themselves... perhaps to sleep better at night? Who knows.
I asked my husband why you see all these guys so skinny, was it because of working outside? He told me 'what do you expect, they eat on 150 QR a month'. This 150 is what is provided by the employer. Sad to do this to our brothers (and sisters in some cases)
Gypsy said
You would think it's because ...You would think it's because he put his name to it. :P
Seriously though, it is worth decent discussion.
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Gypsy said
My "brother from another ...My "brother from another mother" as I call him, who started out as the guy who picked us up at the airport and ended up becoming part of the family, was here from the time he was 18 till the time he was 31 and ran out of the money he saved in 6 months back in Kerala, and he was making pretty good money. And having been to that area, unless they are overcharging me, they aren't getting enough to live on here.
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7aasebToua3 said
gypo the hippo ...I don't mind hijacking my own thread!
Whenever you talk about hate, remember when you expressed your passion in blowing arab men....up!
I will gladly despise & hate back any ugly & hateful person like you, and whoever agrees with you (above).
Now you can discuss the level if crime, if you wish!
Amoud said
Thats just retarded ...Thats just retarded
7aasebToua3 said
look who is talking! ...look who is talking!
Amoud said
childish. That the best you ...childish. That the best you got? Think you can come up with a witty reply without swearing and bashing.... I dont think so
7aasebToua3 said
sure ...but with respectful people only...not those who are full of hate to the country that feeds them
Amoud said
respectful such as yourself? ...respectful such as yourself? I am glad that I am classified as a degerate then...
7aasebToua3 said
and I'm glad to hold the mirror ...in your face
Amoud said
and there we have it ...and there we have it lol..... very witty :) i hope the reply didnt take you too long... lol
7aasebToua3 said
so this mirror will tell you: "look who's talking" ...if you think that my words are "retarded".
And it will answer you with resppectful words, once it feels that you are starting to have a little self respect!
Amoud said
"Whenever you talk about ..."Whenever you talk about hate, remember when you expressed your passion in blowing arab men....up!
I will gladly despise & hate back any ugly & hateful person like you, and whoever agrees with you (above)."
I had stated I agreed with Gypsy's comment for this thread, how the heck did we all get grouped into that? Retarded n'est pa?
7aasebToua3 said
if you have agreed to such words of her: ..."And he's not even being his usual hateful self"
then of course you are in the same 5hit category like her
Amoud said
Who said I agreed to that ...Who said I agreed to that part? Perhaps ask before you attack and people may not make such comments. I never saw one of your threads before, and only recognized your name because another poster was bashing you for the same thing on another thread.
I dont give a hoot about your personality, and was agreeing to the post subject comment.
azilana7037 said
amoud...7aasebToua3 ...having FUN tonite? ...it's already warm outside our airconditioned rooms...do we need to "flame up" this topic by throwing "fireballs" at each other?
It's your ballgame...but really, guys...it's getting hot in here...CHIL-LAX!!
:-)
Amoud said
I am lost... was thinking ...I am lost... was thinking this was a great topic, and BAM.
7aasebToua3 said
it's your problem if you don't know how to choose words ...you have just said:
"I had stated I agreed with Gypsy's comment for this thread"
aren't these your words? what does "this thread" mean? Means all her words. Did you specify otherwise? No
Amoud said
Now I fully understand why ...Now I fully understand why this is happeneing to you. God with you
azilana7037 said
It is a great topic, amoud....actually ...i am still composing what to say....lol
I'll post it by tomorrow coz my bed beckons...good night, guys!
Amoud said
nighty night azilana :) ...nighty night azilana :)
labda06 said
azilana/Amoud ...yes azilana, go to bed, you're spoiling all the fun, LOL Good night!!!
Amoud LOL..."Now I fully understand why this is happening to you. God with you." Pray tell why???
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
Amoud said
Pray tell.... lets see, I ...Pray tell.... lets see, I was sitting here at my pc reading the thread and thought "hey, how commendable to mention this, it is a real issue" and was actually excited that something meaningful was posted ... then the proverbial shyte hit the fan. Bewildered... yes, confused... extremely. Then I remembered Scotia talking about this guys comments and thought 'man, this guy has a major chip on his shoulder'
I can do nothing for him obviously... God with him.
7aasebToua3 said
as I said amoud ...what to expect form some 5hit who are full of hate to the country that feeds them? I can only hold the mirror in your face so you can see your ugliness!
May God guide you to the right path
Amoud said
Again lost... who hates ...Again lost... who hates Qatar? You should chill, Ramadan is around the corner, you dont want to start your fasting like this.
J'azak Allah Kheiran for your posts 7aaseb
labda06 said
Amoud ...Wasn't it only yesterday when the two of you seemed almost like bosom buddies? I thought to myself, the end is surely near. LOL
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
Amoud said
and there you go Labda.... ...and there you go Labda.... but I actually think it was Scotia who was grouping us.
After I realized he misunderstood the context of what I said (or actually made an assumption that I hated him) I have been trying to get him to cool down but no dice. I give up
azilana7037 said
you two are incorrigible...lol... ...NIGHTY GUYS!!!
7aasebToua3 said
http://www.qatarliving.com/node/182082 ...check this link amoud! It's your hateful thread about Qatar!
So, 1st you forget that you have agreed with gypo's hateful words in this thread, and 2nd, you forgot your hateful thread about Qatar!
What expired pills are you swalloing?
Amoud said
the ones I took from your ...the ones I took from your medicine cabinet hehehe
britexpat said
This thread has wandered off again.. ...There is a linkage, but you are all assuming that these crimes are being committed by labourers..
One problem is also people without jobs coming to Qatar. they arrive here with some money, and then if they can't find a job, and don't have a means of supporting themselves, they turn to petty crime...
Another is obviously low pay. Many are promised by the agents that they can carry out part time jobs to supplement their income.. when they can't do this, they turn to crime.
Finally, it is possible that because of the inflation and cost of living, some locals are responsible for minor portion of the crimes..
labda06 said
Good night Amoud, azilana ...Good night Amoud, azilana and 7aasebToua3 as well :P
"Quit hanging on to the handrails . . . Let go. Surrender. Go for the ride of your life. Do it every day." Melody Beattie
Amoud said
Hmm, well said Brit but I ...Hmm, well said Brit but I think you may get yourself into hot water making local comments.
The petty crimes here have increased, 10 years ago you never heard of a robbery here, but of course at that time a chicken cost about 4QR.
Alot of the pay rates are nationailty based here as they are basing the wage on what they would make in their home country. It doesnt make a lot of sense because the cost of liviing here is not even comparable to their mother countries.
A minimum wage based on cost of living should be implemented here, for what is referred to as 'skilled' and 'non-skilled' labor
IMI said
Is tomorrow?? ...Sunday the 31st August 2008?
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
"The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him a friend."
msanonymous said
I was reading this other ...I was reading this other thread, just moments ago, about suicidal maids in Lebanon and would just like to point out the link between that topic and this one - Human Rights Violation.
I think that crimes such as these reflect how we treat other people. It is a reflection of our self. We may not be directly involved with exploitation of their rights but our silence about it makes us guilty as the next man.
& although, one has to be responsible for their own actions, we must never forget that our actions also affects other people and vice versa. We cannot control other people's desire and the decisions they will make, but we can control ours. Thus, let us not try to do things which will entice them to do evil nor give them opportunities to hurt us. Even if this does not guarantee a 100 per cent safety, this is a one good way to help reduce crime in our own little way and at the same time taking responsibility for oneself. As it is, no one will take advantage of anyone, if there's no one to be taken advantage of.
There is no excuse however, for them who commit crimes; yet, if we only treat out brothers fairly and always keeping in mind that they are humans and have feelings and needs like us, we may be able to decrease, if not completely eradicate, these crimes.
Remember, " We are our brother's keeper".
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britexpat said
Poverty, they say is the ...Poverty, they say is the parent of revolution and crime
britexpat said
Poverty, they say is the ...Poverty, they say is the parent of revolution and crime
msanonymous said
I agree. To which may I add, ...Mr Brit ~ I agree. To which may I add, poverty is also the reason they left their home country to work abroad
... and long it goes the chain of events caused by poverty which is also caused by unequal distribution of wealth and scarce resources...
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msanonymous said
Most definitely. "IMI said ...Most definitely.
"IMI said...
IMI - The Screen Behind The Mirror
"I object to violence because when it appears to do good, the good is only temporary; the evil it does is permanent."
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7aasebToua3 said
A wise Arab once said: ..."if hunger was a man, I would've killed him"
Alexa said
Why not give him food and he ...Why not give him food and he becomes abundance? Much less violent than killing.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
heero_yuy2 said
Increased population means increased numbers of crime ...Ah wait! You said 'level' of crime?
Uhh...I think increased population also answers it...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
7aasebToua3 said
killing hunger ...is curing the problem by cutting it from the roots.
It's OK to use violence against cruelty in order to achieve progress and a better environment!
Alexa said
If you say so.... A sense of ...If you say so....
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
Gypsy said
Is there any topic where you ...Is there any topic where you don't think violence is the answer 7asseb?>
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7aasebToua3 said
hey blower ...you are the last one to object on violence, gypo!
Yes there are some topics where violence is not the answer! For example when a chewing gum sticks to your hair!
Withnail said
7aaseb ...do you not think it is a 2 way street? (regarding your post above about being tired of expatriates who complain about qatar all the time).
expatriates are not the only ones gaining by being here. qataris are huge winners too so do you not think they too should be more thankful?
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7aasebToua3 said
I'm not really interested ...in what you think, withnail!
Do you have something to say about this issue? Go & post in amoud's thread: "why people get a bad impression of Qataris"
Withnail said
WOW! ...you're quite an angry little fella 7aaseb!
clearly you are not interested in qataris and expat working together to get along.
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Tigasin321 said
7aaseb is not Qatari ...Do not get taken in by him. He is not even from the GCC. Almost everything he says is bitter and twisted. He is a hypocrite of the highest order.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Amoud said
7aaseb would definately be ...7aaseb would definately be an example of why people can get a bad idea of Qatari's, for sure.
Qatar doesnt mind taking my 35% business tax every year.
marhabtain said
7aseeb we love it! ...I love Qatar with all my heart. It is a land of understated beauty and culture and I love it so much. I even like Ras Laffan - specially at night as the gas flares light up the night sky and reflects upon the shimmering blue waters of the Persian Gulf. The twinkling stars that light up the beautiful Corniche, the blue flashing lights that attend the accidents, the humidity, the expatriates whinging in Carrefour, the morons on QL etc etc blah blah - hic! Gin Time! Yippeeeeeeee!
salax85 said
Available Skills/Talent with ...Available Skills/Talent with Lack of Opportunity breeds Crime/Criminal.
blame the system.
Amoud said
My sincere apologies to all ...My sincere apologies to all Qatari's for assuming 7aseeb was one of you. My bad.
Still doesnt change my stinking business tax...
Tigasin321 said
No Amoud ...Do not fall for his crap. He is not Qatari or even GCC. He dresses in western clothes, drinks alcohol and visits bars. He is a hypocrite and a trouble maker. Do not allow him into letting you think he is Qatari. He is not. I know what nationality he is but am not going to say because I do not want to offend his countrymen. They have enough tragedy on their plates without having to worry about this buffoon.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Amoud said
You know sometimes I answer ...You know sometimes I answer just to see the next outrageous reply. If I took this seriously I would have (as earlier suggested in another post) gone and jumped in a bath tub with a hairdryer.
7aasebToua3 said
amoud & tig ...From such trash of expatriates like you? I wasn't expecting more than the hate you show to this country, and to the arab & muslim world in general!
Specially you tig, a typical hateful american!
Alexa said
hello amoud, how are you ...hello amoud, how are you today?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
QT said
lol, I think 7aaseb is getting cleverer with his spite nowadays! ...He likes to spew hate and violence against the west here on QL but recently people have been ignoring him!
So he starts a debate that looks relatively geniune and harmless so as to build up a little momentum!
Once he has an audience he starts his hate campaign again! He should be in Politics!
Time to ignore him again for a while I think!
:)
7aasebToua3 said
you felt it too, QT? ...I only have such feelings to people from the waste who are full of hatred!
Welcome in the WC (waste club)
alsboy said
Those well-off can show it??? ...Gosh... How do people think? Seriously, eva thought tht des r de very same low-working force tht has build de house u people (high profile) stay in, party all weekend and trash fud such a way tht its neva a botheration? It de same people without whom u people wudnt b even driving on des roads??? Der hard work, sweating it out under de sun, blah blah blahs (Der is loads 2 write abt dem...) But, just cos u got a western or european passport... FLASH, & u got everything frm a house tht has de finest attributes to a paycheck tht wud feed de whole of Rwanda... Geee, and plz dont start if u wanna say tht u did ur part in gettin 2 wher one is...
Amoud said
Hey Alexa, fine day today .. ...Hey Alexa, fine day today .. thanks for asking. Hope you didnt stay up too late last night.
QT you are right, 7aseeb is complaining about expatriates, just like himself (too funny).
I hate arabs so much I married one... and Islam... dont even get me started. Despised it so much I converted.
With my limited knowledge of Piticairn (sp...sorry) I am assuming the official language is moron. I can now blame 7aseeb for turning me into an arrogant expat but I take all the credit for this one myself.
janeyjaney said
Speak for youself 7aseeb, ...Speak for youself 7aseeb, you're the walking definition of hatred.
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marhabtain said
Greetings from the toilet ...Hic!!!! 7Asseb - u dont mean we white people shurely! FFS we gave u the College of the North Atlantic. We have u Hardees. We gave u Krispy Kreme, we gave u KFC ! In fact we made u the Tellytubbies of the Gulf so sit back, enjoy and chill out fat boy! Yippeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! Gin time! Hic!
7aasebToua3 said
jj? sweety? ...here's a bone! go fetch it!
Tigasin321 said
Alsboy, what language are you writing in? ...Is it a form of English?
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
7aasebToua3 said
exactly marhab ...you, your words, your attitude, the things you described (Hardees, Krispy, KFC, gin..etc)...this is exactly the trash I mean
salax85 said
lol 7aseeb... sorry janey... ...lol 7aseeb... sorry janey... but that was hilarious... 'here's a bone! go fetch it!' LOL.. hahaha..
Tigasin321 said
Amoud, Janey Janey ...Don't waste your words on him. He is a sad case from a war torn country. Maybe he has suffered a personal tragedy that has turned him into the bitter person he is. My advice is to ignore his words and just feel sympathy for him. You sure won't change him.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
marhabtain said
7aseeb we love it! ...I am offended indeed I am. Yes I am. So much so its time to pour another! Yippeeeeee Fat Boy! Gin Time Hic!
Dracula said
THE END! ...THE END!

janeyjaney said
Since I take things ...Since I take things seriously over here in QL, I will go sulk in the corner because you hurt me you hurtful man!
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alsboy said
Hehehe... ...Fun... Doesnt anyone believe in 'havin fun' anymore??? Gosh... Wots happened 2 u people???? Smile, y fight? De fight was over wit WW1 & WW2 and de Oops GulfW1 & GulfW2 (hope, so). Peace, harmony & MUSIC (PSY)....!!!!
7aasebToua3 said
tig ...believe me I feel no bitterness when I reflect the hate on an ugly & hateful american like you. It feels good actually!
7aasebToua3 said
jj? ...sit! SIT, JJ!
salax85 said
Janey ... i never thought u ...Janey ... i never thought u would back off and stand in the corner instead ... TYPE BACK<>> Comeon.. 'You are the Girl... the modern lady... the one who knows to smoke, to walk and to Talk...' yea yea.. any more inspirations needed baby.
janeyjaney said
:) -------------------------- ...:)
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marhabtain said
Ugly? Hateful? ...Hey Fat Boy! You go to far saying this about our Colonial friends.! They are nice people but some - like you - are fat and ugly. Thats their deal in life - with u its self inflicted!i.e. self indulgence! All your friends think this wallahi!