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One in four Britons
One in four Britons don't believe wartime Prime Minister Winston Churchill existed, according to a recent survey.
Churchill is compared to Florence Nightingale and Sir Walter Raleigh, seen by many survey respondents as a mythical person, the London Daily Mail reported Monday.
The survey, conducted with 3,000 respondents to test their general knowledge, reported other historical figures such as Indian leader Mahatma Gandhi, Cleopatra and the Duke of Wellington were made up for books and films, the Mail reported.
The survey, by UKTV Gold, also found that Sherlock Holmes was a real person.
Young Britons under 20 lack a basic historical education according to the survey results, historian Correlli Barnett told the Daily Mail.
"This suggests a complete lack of common sense and respect for our greatest heroes of the past," Barnett said.
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AbuAmerican said
wow _________________________ ...wow
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goodlookin said
Winston Churchill? ...Winston Churchill?
MagicDragon said
I wonder what the Americans ...I wonder what the Americans would say about John Wayne. Historical or a Hollywood by-product?
heero_yuy2 said
England prevails! ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
AbuAmerican said
Every American knows John ...Every American knows John Wayne was a fictitious character.. (joking)
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MagicDragon said
That was an easy one, Abu. ...That was an easy one, Abu. Now, what about George Washington?
AbuAmerican said
LOL ...LOL MD
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QT said
lol UncleSam, a UKTV Gold survey indeed! ...somehow, I can believe those stats! :(
britexpat said
This shows that teens are ...This shows that teens are moving away from reading books and that school curriculi need to be modified..
Its a sad state of affairs where kids don't know the difference between fact and fiction..
In fifty years , they'll say that Maggie Thatcher was a fictional character and Tony Blair was a decent PM..
heero_yuy2 said
I thought Margaret Thatcher really IS a fictional character ...LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
QT said
Tony Blair was a decent PM ......in his first 6 months in office!
britexpat said
QT.. ...Agreed. Then he began to believe his own hype and his PR men and advisors led him astray..
Children need to be weaned oiff play staions, Xboxes and directed again to libraries..
heero_yuy2 said
Re:britexpat ...Children need to be weaned oiff play staions, Xboxes and directed again to libraries..
This one I really REALLY need to reiterate to every people of the world!!!
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
QT said
Shame really Brit, I had hope for that guy! ...:(
haunted said
doing pretty good here ...The British school here has sparked my American born to love history. She gave a small talk on the train from Istanbul to Stara Zagora on the great empires to two college kids from the States. There is hope.
What bothers me is that it seems like imagination is dieing because the brain isn't allowed to explore. (over-riding screen entertainment: TV, computer, playstation...)
haunted said
... ...you don't put it all on Blair though right? That would be like blaming all American's troubles on Bush. (one man with the world on his shoulders?) Was The God Atlas real then?
labda06 said
hahahahahahahaa....kids of ...hahahahahahahaa....kids of today need to have their TV's, PS's and all that JUNK turned off.
Shame!
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Stratty said
Kids need The Muppet Show, ...Kids need The Muppet Show, how brilliant was that!
haunted said
Ms. Piggy my hero.. ...Oh and the king, animal WHHHHHHHHAAAAAAA! He had that fuzzy eyebrow, twisted mind kind of innocense....
I'm an old Scooby fiend....
Stratty said
It was legendary, all of it, ...It was legendary, all of it, from the opening sequence, to the two guys in the royal box, to all of it... Brilliant! (I'm David Brenting again...)
haunted said
I think 70's and early 80's was brilliant! ...Bell bottoms, Bay city Rollers, no computers, running around all summer barefoot, Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys Mysteries, fondue fridays, Three's company, Queen, blue jeans, stories around the camp fires that really did scare the hell out of you! If one could move back in time I'd be packing my things....
prettyeyez said
:S ...why are these Brits in the limelight lately?! everything that has been going on in the media has involved some brit somewhere along the road!!
QT said
Yes Pretty, please tell these Americans to stop picking on us! ......It gets tedious after a while!
lol
prettyeyez said
haha ...don't worry QT..they got PALIN to occupy their curiosity now :)
Alexa said
Ah people...you have to go ...Ah people...you have to go with the times.....you are really showing your age ;)
Do you think that all those years back things were that much better? I doubt it....difference is...nobody asked people those questions..what do you think would have transpired if they did?
My child plays with all those devices...he also reads books, he reads about science, history...you name it, as I am sure many other children do...and others don't.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
britexpat said
Haunted.. ...Agreed . 70's was a great decade.. Great music, tolerance, people were expressive of opinions, stood up for what they believed and I remember it vividly..
Good Times..
britexpat said
Alexa.. ...I think you are a very good parent who realises the importance of balance in lifen and education for children..
Sadly, I believe you are becoming a minority now..In the West especially, parents are very busy trying to provide for their children, that many don't get the time to spend quality time with the kids and ensure these aspects. Kids are left to their own devices..
labda06 said
I think a lot of parents ...I think a lot of parents today leave parenting to everyone and everything but themselves. I was forced to read two books (I loved Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys as well haunted, HATED Mills & Boon, yuck) a week which grew on me. I HAD to write in my journal. I had to have have discussions with my Dad about the hunger in Ethiopia etc and my treat at the end of the day was not some TLC with my PS or whatever was there at the time but a bedtime story of the classics or traditional folklore from Daddykins. It all just became habitual.
Come to think of it, I wonder if it wouldn't be easier for me to just stick my future kid in front of Cartoon Network all day. Kudos to parents like Alexa who do find the time to make sure their kids lead enriched lives, in all aspects.
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goodlookin said
70's, 80's....oh dear....is ...70's, 80's....oh dear....is Qatar just one big retirement home? ;)
baldrick2dogs said
And yet .. ...It is these one in four thickos who'll complain about immigrants coming in and taking their jobs.
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book." —Groucho Marx
MR PAUL said
As parents, its up to us to help and teach our kids.... ...My little boy loves playing on my 360 or Psp, but he also loves to draw, colour and do jigsaws.He loves building Lego as well.
It is our resposiblity to ensure our kids grow up knowing right from wrong and whos who.
NIL ILLEGITIMI CARBORUNDUM
britexpat said
Labda06.. ...Mills & Boon :o)
I shared a house witha lady who used to get them delivered in a brown unlabeled box...
I fully agree with you.. Reading is integral to the growth of a child.. It helps broadens his/hers horizons..
haunted said
hahaha goodlookin ...Be a good lad and pass an old lady her cane....
I sometimes feel it has a lot to do with one parent trying to raise a family by themselves and not getting the help they should have from their society or two parents working. Society and government factors unsupportive towards the family (unlike Scandinavia who supports it)
Supernurse said
typical of the idiots and ...typical of the idiots and thickos in the UK....
Alexa said
Well, again, I must ask...do ...Well, again, I must ask...do you really think parents have changed so much? Do you really think most parents DID take care of things differently in those times than they do now? I do not really think so...I think all things, due to the way the media works now compared to former times,are much more out in the open. Plus, we must not forget the restrictions parents and especially teachers face now due to PC and other factors, that prohibits them in many ways to put their foot down.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
baldrick2dogs said
Alexa ...Children would argue that parents now do better by them - But in the good old days (70s), children had imagination to play with rather than electronic toys. You could make belief a stick was a gun. Now the same stick would be branded a health hazard and burned to add to our greenhouse problem.
Kids back then used to eat worms and dirt - this was all part of growing and learning, and probably helped us from getting some of the piss poor ailemnts that kids complain about these days.
We would jump from swings and slides. Now they have to put soft flooring in in case they should fall and hurt themselves, and if, god forbid, that soft floor ain't there, well sue the b*stards!
Goddamn Nanny State.
Phew, glad that's of my chest!
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haunted said
... ...Alexa I have to say that I really do think it's different. In the culture I was raised to be a just a housewife and mother was not honored but frowned on. A real woman was supposed to have a family and a career-she should do it all. (remember that commercial I can bring home the bacon? I think it was a perfume commercial)I've listened to other students say I'm 100% mother, wife, job profession and full time student and I'm thinking eh? Are there 4 of you? My father was raised by two parents (grandma was awesome) I was raised by him barely (not awesome)so when I had by daughter me and hubby decided one of us would always be home for her. I'm proud of that decision....
I remember mud pies but I never even thought of eating it! I remember truth or dare! Treehouses! I remember falling out of trees....how did I make it with no broken bones?
labda06 said
Have to disagree with you ...Have to disagree with you Alexa. I think things were different. Parents were much more hands on than they are today. And children had to use their imagination to keep themselves busy. Parents can still put their foot down, many of them simply choose not to. Its just easier to stick the kids in front of the telly or whatever than spend a few minutes with them stirring their creative juices.
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Alexa said
Well, of course the living ...Well, of course the living circumstances have changed...don't you think your grandparents grew up differently than your parents and your parents differently than you? Don't you think that each one of them complained how things are "nowadays' just as you all do here and now? Well, times DO change....what our children do is different than what we did....and what their children do will be different ..and they too will complain about how things are done 'nowadays"...it will go on and on.....I really do not think things are REALLY that different...we are just using different tools...and you have, as always, good and bad parents...What HAs changed though, is what we as parents and teachers are actually allowed to do...thanks to the PC brigade...:( Have to admit though, as a parent my stand is what i do at home is nobodies business...
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
britexpat said
Alexa.. ...Thankyou for mentioning the PC brigade.. They are a bane on today's society..
One other thing is that many parents are "shifting" their responsibilities of child rearing to the teachers. This should not be the case. Schools are there to teach, not to act as surrogate parents..
Alexa said
Very true brit...still ...Very true brit...still ..what can teachers do nowadays if children are unruly in class...not much....and often parents don't want to deal with it....BUT again, (sorry !) don't you think those parents existed throughout the ages?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
britexpat said
Alexa.. ...Yes they did and still do.. However, schools are taking on responsibilities which they shouldn't..
Last year a school issued birth control pills to a 13 year old without her parents being informed or without their consent..
Alexa said
That is pretty ...That is pretty scandalous.....first for a 13 year old to have the need for birth control, plus for the school having to go over the parent's head......
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa