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For my fasting friends: How do you do it?
I have a question for my fasting friends;
If I miss breakfast or basically go for anything more than about 2 hours without eating I get hunger pains, go light headed & wobbly legged and have to hunt something edible out. How do you get through a whole day without food, and even more incredibly without drink? How much does it affect your ability to perform every day tasks?




jessshan said
hey tallg ...Fasting is an obligation for all people who follow islam. It has been mentioned in Holy Quran "Fasting has been made obligatory to you as it was made obligatory for your forepeople and this is in order to devolop THAQWA(Luv and Fear for God).
Therefore ultimate purpose of fasting is not abstaining from food alone, but abstaining from all wrong doings and its purpose is to devolop THAQWA.
We will not feel hunger or restless when we do fasting but enjoy that peaceful feeling in life.
It will in no way affect our day to day task instead we can perform more Enthusiastically.
tallg said
Thanks jessshan, I'm aware ... ...Thanks jessshan, I'm aware of the reason for fasting. And "Enthusiastically" is definitely not the word I'd use to describe the attitude of some of the people I've seen working while fasting!!!
Nic said
"enjoy that peaceful feeling ..."enjoy that peaceful feeling in life" is not what i sense when driving in Doha, either!
It seams to me that a lot of people are missing the point that they think they are following!
qatari said
sugar levels... ...It normally takes my body a couple of days to adjust to the new blood-sugar levels but once it has, the lack of water and food doesn't really affect you. For those first few days some people are a bit more cranky and have a few headaches...
Otherwise, life goes on as normal...
Strangely, if I miss breakfast when not fasting I'm falling apart by 11am. When fasting, no probs!
tallg said
Perhaps I'll give it a go ...Perhaps I'll give it a go one day, though I'll make sure it's an "easy" day - i.e. just sitting at home working. Nothing too taxing like driving!
princess habibah said
It is very easy when one ...It is very easy when one does it with sincerity rather than just habit. I can't really explain it but I also find it difficult to go without food for more than a few hours especially while pregnant. However when I fast for Allah it is so easy! If I do feel hungry I think about all those people who have no choice and thank God that he gave me a choice not to eat even though he has given me plenty.
I always make sure I eat something heavy for suhoor and at least 1 pint or more of water. I eat lightly when breaking my fast for iftar and drink at least 1.5 litres of water.
Alhumdulilah I find it easy as long as I am well and able to do so. Although it becomes impossible if I am flying because of dehydration.
And it helps to have other muslims around doing the same thing too!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Oryx said
upside down life... ...Sleep all day... wake up at 4.30pm have a shower... get dressed...ready for iftar..
abohmaid said
لا ضرر و لا ضرار ...no pains
if any break the fasting
AbuAmerican said
Good question tallg, I go ...Good question tallg, I go the Nike route and just do it really.
I think its a mix between what Qatari and PH have said (but predominately leaning towards PH explanation). Sincerity and belief in why you are doing it make a world of difference. I even tend to eat less for up to 2 months after the month of ramadan in day light hours. Takes me a while to adjust back to normal.
I enjoy fasting because its about character also and me and my aggressive nature gets put on pause for the month (mostly.) Its nice to have a break from me sometimes :P
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Ahmad_N said
Hi my friend ( ; I feel ...Hi my friend ( ;
I feel great to give my stomach a rest, ofcourse I feel hungry in my last 2 or three hours, but our bodies were designed to accept whatever we do regularly...& when I remember the medical benefits from fasting i feel great.
I've searched on google about the "benefits of fasting+islam"... I think you can find something interesting to read.
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Sara Haj Omar said
In my case, i did a bit of ...In my case, i did a bit of preparation before like changing my meal time slowly. Like having my dinner as late a spossible like midnight. So now, I only have to make my last meal in the evening later. Then once you get busy with work, time passes and before i knew it, its ifhtar time. It is usual for me to skip lunch ---the only thing is the coffee and water in between. The main issue making it possible is the reason and your intention.
princess habibah said
I feel the same way ...I feel the same way American. Fasting helps me break up my normal routine and I find myself doing things that I've been to lazy to get done. Like reading that dry book thats been on my shelf for a year, more prayers, shopping, cleaning the house, and even spending more quality time with the children.
Gee Oryx wish I could sleep as much as you do!
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
Oryx said
No me PH ...Not me PH thats what some of my chums do...
I am sorry i dont agree with depriving yourself of liquid esp in the desert...
princess habibah said
Oh so you were just being ...Oh so you were just being rude then? forgive me for being straight but it doesn't seem very fair to make remarks based on a few of your friends now does it!
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tallg said
Thanks for the answers. Keep ...Thanks for the answers. Keep them coming. One other question; Do most people go back to bed after suhoor?
azilana7037 said
I do my coffee before going to work ...then that's it...
If I feel the hunger pangs, I go hide in the pantry for my fruit juice or a fruit. And since my work ends by 3pm, I sleep till 6pm ...
I just hope i could lose down to my desired weight :-)
AbuAmerican said
I do since working hours are ...I do since working hours are later.
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MR PAUL said
I must admit, the concept of not been allowed any water to drink ...in this climate and region of the world, does strike me as odd.
In a cool climate like the UK, dehydration shouldnt be a problem, but out here.....
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mallrat said
.not taking liquid for hours ....not taking liquid for hours in humid hot summer,

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.that's sacrifice....
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genesis said
with the assistance of my ...with the assistance of my friends Losec & Motilium...;)
I have lite iftar as i go to the gym 2hours later.
I don't take caffeine or juices, but plenty of water.
I have suhoor early at 10:30-11:00pm
AbuAmerican said
Come on now... How many of ...Come on now... How many of us really spend a lot of time outside in the sun? There are some workers who aren't afforded the luxury of a nice cool air conditioned work and living environment but for the most of us here on QL... please people..
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MR PAUL said
You are right Abu, what about all these Labours who are Muslim, ...and have to work outside all day, with no food or water...Surely there must be a way to allow them to drink water at least....
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a merry can muslim said
Tall G, I actually fasted ...Tall G,
I actually fasted as a non Muslim (about 7 or 8 months before I became a Muslim) for the month of Ramadhaan back in the winter of 2000.
Yes it was difficult the first few days as Qatari said but after that it was more difficult not putting food or drink in your mouth out of habit.
I must admit though with that particular Ramadhaan falling during the month of January (in Germany) the hours were a little bit easy. I think we could eat up until bout 0700 and we were breaking the fast at like 1630ish...
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AbuAmerican said
MP I truly do feel for those ...MP I truly do feel for those guys! They are tough stuff.
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nice too nice said
Fasting in Islam is total ...Fasting in Islam is total abstain from Eat and drink from dawn to dusk. People from non arab countries where there is no reduced working hours also fast whole month while they do their routine job. As some one said, it is sacrifice in the path of faith. I feel too hungry by 10 am when I miss breakfast in the morning on normal days. But when I fast, no such feeling comes into my mind. When you do something in dedication, your mind is storng and the WILL will strengthen your body to stand against all temptations.
Mr. Paul, there is no option to have water during fasting. You can even fast with light food at early hours(suhoor)like dates.
Pieman said
In answer to your question ...In answer to your question 'how does it affect your ability to perform tasks' the answer is drastically.
I work on a large jobsite with many muslim people and two days into Ramadan they might as well not be there.
Before anyone comes back with any remark this is not having a dig at them, most of them are quite good guys on my site.
just eat another pie
AbuAmerican said
One thing I suggest for ...One thing I suggest for those who work outdoors is to drink mint tea and add some salt to it.
Sounds nasty but mint tea helps reduce sweating and is one of the reasons lactating women (or more like breastfeeding women) aren't supposed to drink it, it reduces milk flow.
Salt naturally helps you retain water and you lose salt while sweating so it needs to be replaced.
Its not a lot but it helps.
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AbuAmerican said
Everyone works like normal ...Everyone works like normal at my job site. Your job must be physical and hence... really suck.
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Fatcat said
PH, in Qatar the working ...PH, in Qatar the working hours are turned upside down. A lot of people will work only 6 hours a day, so it's easy to just sleep the rest of the day to cope with the fast. The roads are nice and empty during Ramadan, proof that a lot of people are not working as usual.
I don't think Oryx was being rude, she was being realistic.
salax85 said
its easy just try for ...its easy just try for yourself and u will find out. but just dont let your mind call for food after every hour. its all in the head mate.
Kareena74 said
It is a gift from Allah ...and that gift is self control and patience... On a normal day you would get hungry and thirsty for sure and especially if you come home at 1 in the afternoon, you would grab a bottle of chilled water and gulp down a pint but in Ramadan, I come home from work when it is 45 degrees outside and my car is like an oven parked outside in the sun and still after coming home, I don't feel dehydrated or sick or sun stroke or heat stroke or whatever.. This is a miracle from Allah or what else..
MR PAUL said
But kareena, yer not doing hard manual labour...... ...Could some of these scholars get to gether and maybe make an exception for these labours in the name of humanity ?
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princess habibah said
Fatcat Seemed like she was ...Fatcat
Seemed like she was trying to put a bit of salt in the ribena to me.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
tallg said
It must be weird in ...It must be weird in countries like the UK where daylight hours change so much during the year. So Ramadan during the height of summer means fasting for nearly 17 hours, while Ramadan during winter means fasting for less than 8 hours.
(Qatar is a bit more consistent, with daylight hours varying from between ~10 and a half and 13 and a half hours)
princess habibah said
I don't break my fast until ...I don't break my fast until 7:30 pm here in the states. I just went to bali though and didn't fast due to travel but noticed the sun going down a bit later.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
a merry can muslim said
MP, There is a provision for ...MP,
There is a provision for them depending on their intention. But I personally believe that most of them would not utilize it....
Fasting is not obligatory upon the traveller (one in the mode of traveling as well as the one who is in a place but with the intention of not staying permanantly) but they would have to make up the missed days before the start of the next month of Ramadhaan.
Verily Islaam is a religion of ease and not hardship...
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a merry can muslim said
Tall G, I don't see it as ...Tall G,
I don't see it as weird but I could see how someone who fasted their whole life in a place with a fixed schedule would find it strange.
It will actually be more than 17 hours when Ramadhaan coincides with June and July.
Fajr comes in at about 0300 to 0330 and the sun does not set until about 2200.
When you take into consideration that 'Ishaa come is about 90 minutes after Maghrib and the Taraweeh prayers ten to last atleast an hour.... Long days to come!
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Supernurse said
research has shown that one ...research has shown that one does not need an additional salt intake....
princess habibah said
Exactly why I am trying to ...Exactly why I am trying to stay way from it supernurse! Too much salt can be a bad thing!
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AbuAmerican said
SN really? Is this online? I ...SN really? Is this online? I see a lot of these guys with salt marks all over their clothing after it has dried. Cant be healthy to lose that much salt on a daily basis. Has to be more than you can get back in normal food intake.
Anyhow it works for me.
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tallg said
a merry can muslim - I ...a merry can muslim - I thought sunset and sunrise dictated the fasting time, which taking June 21st this year in London would be 0443 -> 2122 = 16h38m. Do the prayer times not coincide with the sun?
qatari said
tallg - fasting ...- if you're planning to give it ago, I'd suggest you do it on a day you're busy! being occupied makes the time fly by... as opposed to sitting and staring at the clock!
- you're right about the times in UK. In summer you're fasting for crazy hours and in winter fantastic ones :-)
Of course, everyone else is right saying that it isn't just physical - there is definately a spiritual component to it.
a merry can muslim said
That could be true for ...That could be true for London Tall G... But on the certain parts of the continent the hours are much longer.
As for starting the fast it is before the actual sunset. We stop eating when the white strip is visible on the bottom of the horizon.
So in Brum the sunrise right now is about 0625 but we stop eating at about 0500
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Scarlett said
I find it incredibly dangerous for ...thos workers who are not allowed to drink water during the day in 40+ weather. I understand the BASIS behind it but seriously...the human body needs to be hydrated when you are sweating out fluid than you are putting in. I just hope in those instances its not a forced fasting of liquids but up to the individual.
Someone said that most folks don't work out in the heat but in the airconditioning..if that is so then no, there isn't much of a problem with the no liquids...I'm not one of those though, so when I come home from the shelter, I have to admit to being a bit irritated that I can't drink water on the way home, which is about a 45 minute drive. And yes, I do drink a lot of water while there, but it takes more to rehydrate what is lost in the 3 hours I am out in the sun and heat dog walking or doing manual labor. I always believed fasting is an individual sacrifice and that even if you see someone eating in front of you, if you truly believe in what you are doing, then it won't affect your dedication. Forcing others to do what you do, simply because it makes it easier for you, rather defeats the purpose, in my eyes.
PH...I don't think Oryx meant anything by what she said. I know many Muslims that do the same thing during Ramadan, if their lives allow.
Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked,the good fortune to run into the ones I do,and the eyesight to tell the difference.
tallg said
Yes you're right a merry can ...Yes you're right a merry can muslim, the further away from the equator you go the more the daylight hours change throughout the year. However, I was using the UK as an example.
Interesting to know that the fasting time is so much longer than the visible-sun time. I thought it was all about when the sun appeared and disappeared. Oh well, every day's a school day!
Qatari - good point about being busy, but I certainly wouldn't trust myself driving if I hadn't eaten or drunk anything for several hours! And as for the spiritual thing, I obviously wouldn't have that advantage (and will never understand it either, but that's not for discussion here!)
Architect.J said
scarlett ...I too have always felt that asking non-muslims to not eat and drink is a bit unfair. Where is the sacrifice when u dont even see food, dont let others have food, keep the restaurants closed, then work half day and go home?
I remember fasting back home, those who were not fasting were going on as usual while we had to refrain, work full time and do all regular chores in addition to finding extra time for prayers.
although the nights in the gulf are more fulfilling than back home, with the prayers.
and yes, 'some' DO sleep the whole day and enjoy the nights out during ramadhan. although i wudnt call it fasting in its true sense, maybe starving?
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Mom_me said
I work in a school and there ...I work in a school and there are many children fasting. While non-fasting kids eat their lunch, those who are fasting leave the classroom and go to some area specially designated for them. Since some of them are as small as 9 years old I am appalled at their will power and enthusiasm. Not all muslim kids are fasting though, and those who are - I don't find any change in their participation in the class. The feeling of devotion towards God makes one strong willed, that's the lesson I learned from these kids.
tallg said
Surely it's not healthy for ...Surely it's not healthy for a growing 9 year-old to be fasting for a month? Children are exempt from fasting so why are they doing it?
notfromhere said
Tallg, re suhoor ..."Do most people go back to bed after suhoor?"
My hubby doesn't get up for Suhoor, never has. Don't know how he does it! Doesn't even eat very much after Iftar meal, maybe just some sweets and/or fruit. So his next real meal isn't until next Iftar.
My kids get up for Suhoor, go back to bed, then get up for school. Yesterday (Fri) I noticed my son didn't get up for Suhoor. He said he likes a challenge! He's a teenager, so I think sometimes it's a tough choice between food and sleep, lol!
Now I'm off to the kitchen for the finishing touches before the cannon goes off...
notfromhere said
When we came here our kids ...When we came here our kids were in Grade 2 and 5. Our 5th grader was just beginning to fast partial days, on weekends. I was surprised at the peer pressure she got for not fasting. She was the only Muslim kid in her class who wasn't fasting.
It varies from family to family. Lots of kids WANT to fast, to emulate the others.
Now I really have to go! Enjoy the rest of the weekend!
vfr750 said
Just pure sincerity... ...It is really hard specially for people like me,i have embraced Islam 3 years ago. But still on the early days or weeks of Ramadan i am having headaches and dizziness starting at 9am. The only good thing is that our company allows us Muslim employee to go home at 12nn.But when you think that all what you do is for God,all pains and temptation will be gone in no time at all..
For us who works most of our time in an airconditioned room,still we feel the hardship of fasting..What about those who works under direct sunlight? Allah bless them!
Mom_me said
To be honest, initially I ...To be honest, initially I felt uneasy about the fact that 9 or 10 years old are fasting. I thought may be their parents are over zealous or something on these lines. But after a few days of careful observation and talking to a few friends about this, I came to the conclusion that it is not wrong. Anyways it is not affecting their concentration.
diamond said
Tall, good question. ...Tall, good question. Usually during the day I drink lots of fluids so sometimes I don't quite know how I do it in Ramadan. With the help of Allah is how I get through the day :) My spirituality increases and I feel close to Allah and get a sense of those who have to live without enough nutrition. Sometimes it's not easy, if I get headaches and feel very lethargic I try to take it down a gear. I'm lucky in that I work in the AC.
Generally Ramadan is low key for me. I eat a little less and drink a lot less than normal. Not much change really from daily life except meal timings...breakfast at 3:30am (smoothie and slice of toast), Iftar at sunset (a date and a sip of laban, soup and salad, I try to drink fluids), dinner 8ish (regular dinner meal)
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manishapant said
last year i was in ...last year i was in saudi.many friends of mine who were fasting sleep whole day and eat whole night.and say they gain weight during ramadan.
diamond said
no point in fasting if you ...no point in fasting if you do it that way IMHO.
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Supernurse said
how about muslims in the ...how about muslims in the North Pole where the sun never sets....now that must be a bloody killer!!!
Oryx said
PH ...you dont even live here... I do!
a question was asked and I answered...
quite a few live upside down days here...
thats the truth - if you dont like that then dont shoot the messenger.
a merry can muslim said
SN, The scholars have stated ...SN, The scholars have stated that they follow a schedule of the nearest place that has a true sunset and sunrise...
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AbuAmerican said
SN you follow the region ...SN you follow the region closest to you with a sun rise and sun set.
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Supernurse said
I had a sneaky drink of ...I had a sneaky drink of water in my car yesterday.....I tried to be discreet....I was dehydrated and I needed fluids so I drank...simple..
AbuAmerican said
Well good for you ...Well good for you SN..
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Supernurse said
absolutely......I only did ...absolutely......I only did what was natural...thirsty? Then Drink.....
Oryx said
Well Done Super ...I felt sick on Wed - i was out 8-2 nil by mouth.. rushing around Doha - didn't feel right till Friday morning.....
a merry can muslim said
SN... next you will be ...SN... next you will be posting after each of your bowel movements?
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Supernurse said
No, its not right to be nil ...No, its not right to be nil by mouth like that lol, the way I look at it, I'm not fasting nor do I understand the concept. Therefore, if I feel my health is at risk from not drinking or eating for long periods because I've been put in a situation like this then hell, I'll eat and drink!
Supernurse said
a merry can muslim, not ...a merry can muslim, not quite but I'll let you know which hand I don't use to wipe my bum......
a merry can muslim said
Sn, no objection to that... ...Sn, no objection to that... It is just strange and hence my previous post that you find it ground breaking or perhaps interesting enough ti share it with us...
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Supernurse said
a merry can muslim......very ...a merry can muslim......very newly converted....like an ex smoker......
a merry can muslim said
Converted to what? You ain't ...Converted to what? You ain't fasting!!
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Supernurse said
never mind..... ...never mind.....
AbuAmerican said
LoL SN your health is at ...LoL SN your health is at risk from missing a gulp of water here and there... LOL man I wonder how some of those starving Africans get through a day if we were to take you as an example.
We as westerners complain about our suffering and don't have a concept or clue about what it really is. You haven't sacrificed anything and least of all your health or even come close to it. It was your comfort and nothing more that came under duress. You were thirsty and had a drink.. Don't make it sound like you were about to kill over in the streets of Doha..
Gawd the drama
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princess habibah said
Now oryx don't get all ...Now oryx don't get all uppity about it! I am naturally defensive when it sounds like someone is trying to degrade the beauty of fasting! Perhaps you didn't mean it as it came out and to be fair I should have overlooked it and questioned the attitude behind before taking offense. It can be difficult to interpret a persons intention behind posts at times.
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Fatcat said
AbuAmerican, the Africans ...AbuAmerican, the Africans who are starving(btw not all Africans are starving) are not healthy and I do not see how me not drinking water nor eating during the day could possibly help them!
I'd respect what you wrote only if you told me that what you don't spend on food during Ramadan was donated to the starving Africans.
Fatcat said
Oryx, I think she was trying ...Oryx, I think she was trying to say "I'm sorry" to you.
Oryx said
Abu ...but your health is at risk if you dont drink water and i have low iron levels... I get dizzy really quickly if i am dehydrated...and i for one need all my wits when i am driving...
as for africa... well you are right.. i have travelled a lot there...and i basically due to malnutrition people dont operate at their full potential always.
princess habibah said
Actually fatcat part of ...Actually fatcat part of ramadan and eid is feeding the poor who have nothing! For instance if we are unable to fast we need to feed people for the days we miss.
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Fatcat said
PH, if you are unable to ...PH, if you are unable to fast is the key word. I'm sorry, it still does not mean that by not eating, someone back in Africa will feel better or have something to eat...
Oryx said
LOL fatso ...i am off to watch the footie...
by i agree i am blessed to be born into a society that could feed and educate me so I should appreciate that...
being dehydrated and feeling horrible isnt going to help anyone..
i like that 'uppity oryx'... dont forget to use that when i step out of line!
AbuAmerican said
Fatcat you totally missed ...Fatcat you totally missed the point. Point.. don't act like you are going to die from missing a sip here and there. You people bitc# and moan about everything under the sun related to Islam and this is an extension of that constant, unbroken, incessant, intolerant, foolishness.
You want to eat and be merry then do so, you aren't Muslim whack away but don't be mad because the powers that be wont let you eat in peoples faces because if you look at the posts here on QL most of you lot would do it mockingly in peoples faces out there.
Eat, don't eat but man.... don't whine and whine and complain.. You didn't do research on the place before you came here?
My charity is between me and Allah and I don't do it to showboat to the likes of you.
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MagicDragon said
lol. Abu. The thread was ...lol. Abu. The thread was directed to "my fasting friends". Anybody who doesn't fast is in the "wrong" thread.
harsha said
when i am at work.. and ...when i am at work.. and busy.. i usually end up skipping my lunch.. and for my breakfast... i miss it everyday... guess its d mind that does it or somethin...
Fatcat said
First, I did not say you do ...First, I did not say you do not do charity, because it is none of my business if you do it or not. Second, I just stated my opinion on something you wrote, i.e. you said that there are people in Africa starving and I said I do not see how one person fasting here does help them unless that person donates them that money.
Then you jumped the gun and said I show off when I do charity... Great, if this is what your God thinks is right, i.e. to judge people without even knowing them, then I rest my case.
AbuAmerican said
Oryx its understood that ...Oryx its understood that some have health issues and no one is going to get on you about that if you drink or eat.
I simply find it rebarbative that people here play like you will have a swat team on your rear if you eat or drink in the event you do have health issues.
It just crazy.
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princess habibah said
Well MD that is why I got ...Well MD that is why I got defensive about Oryx's post!
But anyway.. fatcat we fast so that we can remember and feel (even if it is for a small amount of time) what it feels like not to have food and water. How many times do we as people forget the woes of others and submerse ourselves in the joys of this world. Sure we feel for them but that is only when we hear or see them. Fasting allows us to feel for them for at least 1 month out of the year and reminds us to Thank Allah for everything he has given us.
What could be more beautiful then humbling ourselves in prayer, thanks, thinking about and giving to others?
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
AbuAmerican said
Who said you show off in ...Who said you show off in charity? Where was that stated explicitly or implicitly fatcat?
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Salmamohd said
well its just normal for me ...well its just normal for me coz n e how i don have much n ma daily routine but ya at tyms i need coffee n all but dats ok....n e ways just try it once ull feel better...
DaRuDe said
OOHOyyee ...Cooool down guys.
Fatcat said
PH, I totally respect ...PH, I totally respect that.
:)
Fatcat said
AbuAmerican: "My charity is ...AbuAmerican:
"My charity is between me and Allah and I don't do it to showboat to the likes of you"
I do apologize if I misunderstood you. If I did, please explain to me exactly what you meant by that.
QT said
Salmamohd, kool Chik, wats ya sayin, coz bin tryin 2 lng 2 ......knw wats u rite-in girl n stil khant wrk it out!
:)