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Chicago deaths higher than Iraq
Some 65 American soldiers were killed in Iraq between the start of the Memorial Day weekend on 26 May and the end of the summer on Labour Day, 1 September.
However, 123 people were shot and killed in Chicago over the same period, a study revealed yesterday.
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Alexa said
Ah...sems the insurgents are ...Ah...sems the insurgents are not doing that well...hmmmm....I suppose Chicago has "certain areas' where these crimes mainly occur?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
heero_yuy2 said
No comment ...Not new to me...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
modern wonderer said
there is approx 15000 deaths ...there is approx 15000 deaths by gunfire in usa every years, thats approx what the us army lost in life in iraq so do the calculation...that the cost of one iraq war per year inside the usa
and they call it a democracy.....
Don't wait for the last judgment it takes place every day.
"Albert Camus "
Alexa said
and what does this have to ...and what does this have to do with democracy?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
modern wonderer said
no offence alexa, but to ...no offence alexa, but to that much people dying every year of gunfire seems more like liberia or nigeria tome than a developed country, that's all
diamond said
Not exactly the cost of one ...Not exactly the cost of one year's worth of war in Iraq. As well as the tragedy of the lives lost, billions of dollars are spent/wasted on 'defence' (depends how you look at it)
Now if only all that money would be spent on healthcare or poverty in the US. That would really be awesome.
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Alexa said
again...where does democracy ...again...where does democracy come in?
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
Alexa said
True words diamond...your ...True words diamond...your word in the next presidents ear......
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
diamond said
Nothing to do with ...Nothing to do with democracy, Alexa. That was just a red herring thrown in. Sigh.
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jassKat said
hopefully the next president ...hopefully the next president will care enough to see the problems the country faces and actually try to make changes instead of using fear tactics towards the public to gain power...
tra la la
diamond said
OK :) Rather depends on the ...OK :) Rather depends on the ear though. Some appear to be hard of hearing.
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Alexa said
Diamond...then you might ...Diamond...then you might have to raise your voice a bit...i know, i know ..very not you, unladylike etc...but you know...desperate times and desperate measures and all that.....
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
soloman said
who ever comes will change ...who ever comes will change non,,
diamond said
Hmmm...Obama/McCain, I'm ...Hmmm...Obama/McCain, I'm watching with interest...and an element of trepidation.
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heero_yuy2 said
Why can't it be just...Obama/Palin? ......and pull out McCain in the competition?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
soloman said
Do u realy think that they ...Do u realy think that they are spending all those milions of $ to help u and me improving our life... big joke....
diamond said
Heero, do you really want an ...Heero, do you really want an answer to that ridiculous question? do you understabd anything about American politics at all??
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soloman said
diamond ...Not to answer is the best answer to that quez...
heero_yuy2 said
Actually, diamond ......I really don't wanna understand American politics after all that's why I asked my question.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
diamond said
Asking a question about a ...Asking a question about a topic implies some interest in it ;)
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jassKat said
well Heero, I am american, ...well Heero,
I am american, and I dont really understand the politics either. I really try though.
tra la la
adnanmzfr said
Chicago is such a big city ...Chicago is such a big city that it is now advancing in state of indiana. People from all over the world lives there and i dont think that for such a big city it is a very high figure.
Try to match it with the other cities of the same size else where then it can be a good analysis.
soloman said
good for you..it`s just abig ...good for you..it`s just abig head pain
heero_yuy2 said
Re:diamond ...Asking a question about a topic implies some interest in it ;)
Well I thought my question was related to the American headlines nowadays...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
britexpat said
Adnan.. ...you think 40 killings a month is reasonable ??
adnanmzfr said
Well i cannot say for sure ...Well i cannot say for sure about any thing. The population of the city is too much as the city size is very large. Just want to compare it with other big cities outside US which i think are seldom there else where in the world.
adnanmzfr said
Well i cannot say for sure ...Well i cannot say for sure about any thing. The population of the city is too much as the city size is very large. Just want to compare it with other big cities outside US which i think are seldom there else where in the world.
jassKat said
Does anyone know the history ...Does anyone know the history of Chicago? It was built on a foundation of violence, segregation, and poverty. Nothing has really changed that much in this city so it is no surprise that it has such a high number of killings.
tra la la
Alexa said
I think Mc Cain threw a ...I think Mc Cain threw a nasty curveball to Obama by pulling that "babe" out of his hat....
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
heero_yuy2 said
But hey! Iraq's still lucky they don't have that number of death ...And yet they have a big splash of a headline fer this country than ther ol' Illinois to where Obama resides...
...well Springfield's in Illinois also...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
jassKat said
Hi Alexa, I honestly dont ...Hi Alexa,
I honestly dont know why he picked Palin, it is a slap in the face to many of the more qualified and how should I say, not extremist, women in the republican party. I think he alienated many in his own party by picking her.
Infact, he had only met her one time before naming her as VP.
Did you hear her speech at the convention? It was filled with many blatant lies that the AP has uncovered!
tra la la
Alexa said
Jass, to tell you the ...Jass, to tell you the truth..i could not care much less...I don't think it makes any difference. For quite some time none of them has been particularly clever...and i don't see light at the end of the tunnel...heck, i think you or i might be more qualified to do the job.
A sense of humour is just common sense dancing, sadly, common sense has left the building and is dancing somewhere else.
Alexa
britexpat said
He picked Sarah palin ...He picked Sarah palin because she appeals to the conservative element of the republican party. He also is hoping that she will pull some of the democratic female voters..
She is anti abortion, and church going, believing in the two parent family..
Should be interesting..
jassKat said
well honestly Alexa, could ...well honestly Alexa,
could it get any worse than who is in power right now???
tra la la
heero_yuy2 said
Re:Alexa ...heck, i think you or i might be more qualified to do the job.
Uh-oh. I gotta leave Qatar ASAP...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
heero_yuy2 said
Re:britexpat ...She is anti abortion, and church going, believing in the two parent family..
...and a hot momma...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
QT said
Brit, she also screeches like a set of bad tyres! ...:)
SouthLand said
QT ...That would be Hillary Rodham Clinton.
Winn said
First of all, I'm still ...First of all, I'm still tryin to figure out the significance of this comparison.Can anyone help me?
Second, the figure of 65, is the no.of American soldiers who died in Iraq and not the total no.of deaths in Iraq in that time. Now, when u talk abt US soldiers in Iraq, they know and anticipate trouble and do everything possible to protect themselves, whereas the various killings across Chicago, I am quite sure, happened when the victims where least xpecting it.
I dont get the point in comparing armed personnel fatalities in one part of the world to civilian casualties in another part (even if both are citizens of the same country)? Is it to say that for an average US citizen, being a soldier in Iraq is safer than being a resident of Chicago? Bit too farfetched if u compare the percentages, no?
(Maybe my processor is runnin a bit slow today...shud go n catch some sleep, i guess ;)....)
Gypsy said
When I went to Chicago about ...When I went to Chicago about 5 years ago it was pretty impoverished even then, and it's next to some of the poorest places in America(Detroit) I'm not surprised gun deaths are that high. America needs to focus more on it's own weapons and less on other countries.
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SouthLand said
Gypsy ...Huh?
"All we are saying is, give peace a chance".
Gypsy said
More focus needs to be put ...More focus needs to be put on gun control.
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SouthLand said
Gun Control ...You mean shoot what you aim for, right?
Gypsy said
Welll...not quite...however ...Welll...not quite...however that would help SOME cases of gun death...especially those people unfortunate enough to be hunting with Dick Cheney.
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SouthLand said
Gypsy ...If people that own guns, 'control their guns', then there is no issue with 'gun control'. Guns don't kill, people. People kill people, some use guns.
Gypsy said
If that were true then ...If that were true then countries with strict gun control laws would have the same number of deaths as those with weak, and that's just not true.
Purchasing a gun should not be as easy as walking into your local K-Mart and picking out a semi-automatic rifle.
And Guns do offer a "detachment" from the killing, that makes it easier to kill people.
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Tigasin321 said
Agree Gypsy ...The difference between gun deaths in the US and Canada is startling even on a per capita basis. Its well beyond time that Americans ended their love affair with guns.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Gypsy said
Actually the more amazing ...Actually the more amazing statistic is to compare the UK to US, or to Japan. Both of large populations and very few gun deaths.
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Tigasin321 said
In the UK you get stabbed ...not many guns but plenty of knives.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
Gypsy said
Stabbing seems to be popular ...Stabbing seems to be popular in Japan too. The question is how many MORE murders would there be every year if people did have access to guns.
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mjamille28 said
example...Teen stabbed to ...example...
Teen stabbed to death as rival gangs clash at partyPublished: Monday, 8 September, 2008, 02:35 AM Doha Time
LONDON: A teenager was stabbed to death after rival “postcode” gangs clashed at a girl’s birthday party, witnesses said. A gang of up to 40 youths, some armed with baseball bats and knives, fought running battles in the street in Sheffield on Saturday night, it was claimed.
http://www.gulf-time...
Oryx said
I confess Diamond.. ...I put my hand up... I dont understand American politics very well...
When I saw 'Palin' I thought Michael Palin's (ex-Monty Python) daughter was doing something on TV....I know shame on me.
I was just wondering who had the more annoying voice Palin or Hilary...both are very shrill.
MagicDragon said
In Qatar they have neither ...In Qatar they have neither guns nor knives, but plenty of cars and crumbling houses. Here people get "demised".
SouthLand said
The stats battle ...http://www.guncite.c...
jassKat said
looooooolll Oryx!!! Your ...looooooolll Oryx!!! Your Palin would probably be a much better candidate :D
tra la la
SouthLand said
Int'l homicide Rates ...http://en.wikipedia....
Ah the numbers of ways to kill each other off. . .
Gypsy said
Well suicide is tragic I ...Well suicide is tragic I don't think it should be considered in the same stats as murder. So if you take suicide away the States comes number 4 after Estonia, Mexico and Brazil in overall homicide and number 3 after Estonia and Mexico in gun deaths....that's really not very promising.
SouthLand said
Gypsy ...That's okay, your not a state in the Union, yet ;)
Gypsy said
Not yet nope. :P ...Not yet nope. :P
SouthLand said
Mr Harper ...Although, it seems you may be getting closer. Mr. Harper asks for snap elections ;)
http://ca.news.yahoo...
Tigasin321 said
51st State ...Will it be Canada, the UK or the Philippines?
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
MagicDragon said
la la, Tigasin: Saudi ...la la, Tigasin: Saudi Arabia!
Gypsy said
Meh, Harper. As I keep ...Meh, Harper. As I keep telling people when they ask me who I'm voting for in the upcoming Canadian election, WHO cares? The only thing that MAY change is taxes and I dont' pay those.
SouthLand said
Before and NAFTA ...We will all become AMexiCANs. Si, se puede ;)
princess habibah said
Brainwashed people who think ...Brainwashed people who think democracy actually works!
Now come on how can you people vote for someone that you don't even know! Person can say anything but you really do not know their character in the least!
Now amen to the suggestion of spending our money reducing poverty and the medical system here in the US.
Maryum : Umm Hasan bint Abdullah Alshabrawishi
britexpat said
Southland.. ...Thanks for the info..
This reinforces the argument I was trying to make..
After all the balyhoo (and rightly so) about the killings in the UK, it is clear that the country whilst suffering from moronic behaviour and a surge in crime is still not as bad as it is made out to be..
britexpat said
Tig.. ...The USA already has a major influence on Canada as far as trade and foreign policy is concerned.. So, I vote for Canada,
diamond said
Oryx, Sarah Palin is ...Oryx, Sarah Palin is waaayyyy too right wing for me. She's scary. A pitbull with lipstick (her words).
Now Michael Palin's daughter...there's a thought.
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britexpat said
Diamond.. ...I was reading today that the democrats are going to "set Hilary on her"..
Should be an interesting match up.. I take Hilary to win the day..
diamond said
Yup, Brit, Hillary can take ...Yup, Brit, Hillary can take her down anyday. Bring it on I say.
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Oryx said
Thanks Diamond - lesson 1 ...I will now stand at BBQs and say 'she is too right wing for my taste'...
and By the way isn't Michael Palin just wonderful what a varied and illustrious career... ;)
diamond said
Would love to travel with ...Would love to travel with Michael Palin...what fun that would be...
Re Sarah Palin...I'm instantly suspicious of anyone who is a member of the NRA...and she has a lifetime membership.
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Tigasin321 said
No Britexpat ...Canada has money. USA and GB are broke. Misery loves company.
Just call me Tigasin. That's what I'm talking about
SouthLand said
Tig ...And oil sands too! Ripe for good 'ol fashioned exploitation ;)
Vegas said
Yeah and Illegals do half the killings... ...You can't teach experience...
britexpat said
Vegas. ...There is no evidence that the majority of killings are carried out by illegals..