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Yet another Saudi cleric post...
Saudi cleric favours one-eye veil
BBC News 14:51 GMT
A Muslim cleric in Saudi Arabia has called on women to wear a full veil, or niqab, that reveals only one eye.
Sheikh Muhammad al-Habadan said showing both eyes encouraged women to use eye make-up to look seductive.
The question of how much of her face a woman should cover is a controversial topic in many Muslim societies.
The niqab is more common in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf, but women in much of the Muslim Middle East wear a headscarf which covers only their hair.
Sheikh Habadan, an ultra-conservative cleric who is said to have wide influence among religious Saudis, was answering questions on the Muslim satellite channel al-Majd.
Now ladies, what say you? :P
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heero_yuy2 said
They might as well cover both eyes instead ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
MagicDragon said
... and use radar... ...... and use radar...
MagicDragon said
oops, that was for ladies ...oops, that was for ladies only, heero!!
greentea said
thank God ...im not a Saudi woman...
greentea said
sorry... news like this makes me think ...should i laugh or should i cry?
greentea said
excuse me ...but no offense meant to anybody, im just expressing how i feel
corleone said
i mean, at the very least, ...i mean, at the very least, isnt it a strain on their eyes, with the differing contrast?
heero_yuy2 said
See? Even the ladies can't find a word for such stupidity! ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
MagicDragon said
corleone, they probably will ...corleone, they probably will be unable to judge distances properly. So, actually there will be more encounters between the females and "obstacles" happening due to the reduced 3-D capability.
nadt said
agree with Abubabu..but i ...agree with Abubabu..but i thought its only face and hands.. i think these clerics should try it for themselves first before suggesting it, im sure if they walked around with one eye covered they wouldnt be so happy...
heero_yuy2 said
Know the reasons why a guy/gal wanna check an optometrist, MD? ...Having to use only one eye to focus on things.
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
corleone said
next someone will come up ...next someone will come up with one of those shock collars you see on dogs. Any impure thoughts and ZAP..
MagicDragon said
You need a special ...You need a special permission in Germany if you want to drive "one-eyed", for a good reason.
PM said
No thank you ...I suggest the men just blindfold themselves ;-)
A life unexamined is not worth living -- Socrates
diamond said
aha! so that's what the eye ...aha! so that's what the eye patch that came in the mail is for...
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MagicDragon said
corleone, "Die Gedanken sind ...corleone, "Die Gedanken sind frei". (Thoughts are free)
However, since thoughts are electro-magnetic events it might be possible in the future to build magnetic cages which will not allow thoughts to go any further.
MagicDragon said
diamond, don't use it, ...diamond, don't use it, please.
heero_yuy2 said
Haha! Pirates among women, diamond! ...Did it also came with parrots in the mailbox?
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
diamond said
MD, I hear there's a line of ...MD, I hear there's a line of make-up coming out soon for one eye only ;)
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Winn said
WOW...are we talkin abt Lady ...WOW...are we talkin abt Lady Jack Sparrows here?? or is it Lady 'Silver's??
"Fifteen men on a dead man's chest Yo ho ho and a bottle of rum ..."
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I hate political jokes...seen too many of 'em get elected!!
heero_yuy2 said
LOL, diamond! ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
MagicDragon said
Diamond, maybe it's for the ...Diamond, maybe it's for the "eyes" on the toes?
greentea said
one earlier post in this thread is missing ...did you notice?? or it's just my eyes playing trick on me???...
let me check my eyes, maybe i tried covering one eye while reading the thread
Alexa said
A Cyclops comes to ...A Cyclops comes to mind......without seductive eye make up.....ahhhh these men are sooo stooopid....when will they get it?Women will always find ways to look good, abaya , burqa, one eye....understand this MUTTAWEEN...you CAN'T win!
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
PM said
It must be because Nadt mentioned AbuBabu ...and of course, he has probably been banned for the 10th time tonight ;-P
A life unexamined is not worth living -- Socrates
MagicDragon said
You miss so much, if you ...You miss so much, if you have only one eye. Remember Polyphemus in the Odyssey, the one-eyed cyclops. How could Odysseus fool him so easily?
MagicDragon said
Alexa, stop reading my mind! ...Alexa, stop reading my mind!
greentea said
No PM ...i read his post... just wondering if it is offensive or because he criticized the clerics?
heero_yuy2 said
Imagine what alexa's avatar'll look like with just one eye open ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
PM said
Oh, I didn't see his actual post ...but he has been using the "n" word and many other offensive things so has been repeatedly banned. It might be a case of simply having had enough of him for one day.
But if he made the statement that what should be showing according to the typical interpretation of the hadith is the face and hands, then that is correct and it doesn't seem right that the Saudi clerics can be pushing for something which is not even the sunnah (i.e., making women cover everything except one eye).
A life unexamined is not worth living -- Socrates
Alexa said
Heero, that would never ...Heero, that would never happen....as I would look gorgeous wearing a full face veil......as i have done many times.
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
greentea said
lol Heero ...maybe you should show us Alexa how it would look like...
come on change your avatar by covering your one eye with loads of make up... we'll see if they will still succeed in looking seductive ... maybe then the guys can help in deciding if women should cover both eyes to avoid seduction
MagicDragon said
Deleted ...Deleted
Alexa said
As i said, this hideousness ...As i said, this hideousness is easily avoidable with a face veil.......MD, I would appreciate it, if you would cease to disfigure me. Thank you.
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
corleone said
*shrieks in horror and dives ...*shrieks in horror and dives under the bed*
Alexa said
Corleone...stop being such a ...Corleone...stop being such a baby!
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
greentea said
some women are already covered ...with a face veil... why the sudden exposure of one eye?
Alexa said
Greentea, in Saudi you can ...Greentea, in Saudi you can see a lot of women who cover their face, but the eyes are visible...some of those ladies do wear eye make up......it seems, the protectors of virtue and eliminators of vice, vice in this case,as eye make up, are bored at the moment and need something to do....
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
MagicDragon said
They always banged against ...They always banged against lantern posts, greentea. Too much cost for the municipalities.
fefee said
md is this your real pic ...md is this your real pic
MagicDragon said
Yeah, and it's public ...Yeah, and it's public property. You can do with it whatever you want.
fefee said
ehehhe funny just looks like ...ehehhe
funny
just looks like brit pit
are you from german or brit??
pls dont misunderstand me.
fefee said
oops sorry germany or GB ...oops sorry germany or GB
MagicDragon said
are you trying to insult me, ...are you trying to insult me, fefee? Joking. Germany (Bavaria)
Alexa said
hmmmm , MD,,,can you ...hmmmm , MD,,,can you transform it into a more, errm, recent pic?
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
MagicDragon said
You can do that, Alexa. Feel ...You can do that, Alexa. Feel free.
corleone said
like the late Heath Ledger ...like the late Heath Ledger once said... "Why so serious?"
MagicDragon said
I like your pic, corleone. ...I like your pic, corleone. Is that really you?
fefee said
md ...neeee! war eigentlich ne kompliment
hmm,, hab gar nicht gewusst dass du ne deutsche bist. wo sind alle schweizer?? kennst du ein paar CH oder nur deutsche und brit?
lg
MagicDragon said
fefee, I have to disappoint ...fefee, I have to disappoint you. I have no German "friends" here. They are a bit too "German" for my taste. But I know a lot of extremely nice Qataris.
greentea said
maybe they can just ban the make up ...from the store shelves... lol
fefee said
thax!!!!!! was just ...thax!!!!!!
was just wondering if you did!
where are these extremely nice people??? just dont get to meet them???:-(
corleone said
i was thinking of putting a ...i was thinking of putting a pic of david hasselhoff for a while, but then figured that the avatar size was too small to display any sort of meaningful pic.
MagicDragon said
Doesn't have to be the whole ...Doesn't have to be the whole guy, corleone, just the "main" part would suffice.
MagicDragon said
They meet you, fefee. ...They meet you, fefee.
fefee said
hey gd nite every one, have ...hey gd nite every one, have to go to bed!
traverling back home tomoro
didt get to meet any extremely nice people smile. any huups
i will be back in 10days.
i love ql and all the wonderful people here.
PITSTOP said
Lame. These men are too ...Lame. These men are too lame.
SPEED said
PITSTOP .... why lame ? it's their Islam ...they are happy with their Islam and we are happy with ours .... :-)
Same goes to others ....
PITSTOP said
Their Islam and Our ...Their Islam and Our Islam?
Yes Religion is personal, but when others start to force others to practice what isn't preached, then sorry; it cannot be acceptable.
Personal opinion.
SPEED said
ofcoursem I will say their Islam .... coz the way they preach ...Islam is not accepted by many (not few) Muslims and they follow other clerics or the cultural things ....
So do you some point agree with you the Islam has been divided into many Sects ? so those Sects are their Islam ...
What i mean to say if he is giving fatwa and you ppls don't like it.. then who is forcing you women to do it ? now a days everyone has freedom and everyone know what Islam truly says .. so why to worry about his fatwa or such kind of fatwas ... Don't Worry and Be Happy ;-)
Adorman said
Islam is one even though ...Islam is one even though these muttaween come up with these strange things and as you know always must be a proof from Quran or Prophet says but if you asked him about that I'm sure he doesnt has one, more than this the Shiekh who gave this fatwa can he force his wife and daughters to follow it nah I dont think so and for sure no one will force someone to follow it.
I think the problem is taking some cultural staff and make it as part of islam.
NASHEEDZ said
This is what Dr. Bilal ...This is what Dr. Bilal Philips about the face veil:
http://www.bilalphil...
Muhammed12 said
Its not implemented and it ...Its not implemented and it wont be implemented. This was just said by one cleric , not all saudi clerics.
Speed , what do u mean by their Islam and our Islam...Islam is one and it should be followed from Quran and Sunnah just like Hinduism should be followed from bhagvadgita , Vedas, Upanishads ,etc and Christianism to be followed from bible / Old Testament / New Testament.
Saying theirs and ours would make others esp non muslims get wrong impression...
adey said
Muhammed12 ...I am not being cheeky, just honest in saying that Non-muslims already have that impression.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Muhammed12 said
adey ...I am aware of that. Nothing can be done to the past, but we can change the Present and the future.
adey said
Ha ha ha ...An overheard conversation concerning the said cleric:
"Besides, couldn't the women just wear sunglasses over the outside? They live in a desert I'm sure they wouldn't mind."
"How would they hold them on over the veils, elastic?"
"Well you could stick the arms of the glasses through the eye-slit to hook over the ears... Maybe, he doesn't realise that the women have ears? That's why he hasn't thought of this idea."
:D
Peace
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
edifis said
Wow what a brilliant idea, ...Wow what a brilliant idea, to cover one eye, It will look like someone from the Jolly Rogger mob.
jauntie said
lol Adey ...Similarly, said cleric could dictate that the women (who decline to cover one eye) should have one ear cut off as a penalty. Because EVERYONE knows if you cut of one of your ears you go blind in one eye, don't you?
And if you cut off BOTH ears, you go blind in BOTH eyes.
You ask me why?
Because your hat would fall down. Or veil, in this case.
heero_yuy2 said
Oh well, it's not the men's eyes that's in trouble ......so we'll leave the women on this one. LOL
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
Falling in Place said
one eyed women and the clash of civilizations ...You know I just keep wondering when male authority is going to stop fighting over women's bodies and leave us alone to take care of them as we wish. In contemporary time, with the so called clash of civilizations, the body of the Muslim woman has become the topic of the day both in Muslim countries and without. Its getting damned tiring to see the entire whole so concerned over what Muslim women put on or do not put on their faces, hair, hands, feet or whatever. If you read any of the literature when the British and the French first came to the Middle East in particualr you will hear the same old debates that we are living out today. White men, misogynist at home, but turned feminist when their feet touched the Orient, trying to save "brown" women. And "brown" men trying to protect their honour. Enough is enough. I would ask both the sheikhs and their counterparts( such as editors in certain danish papers) to turn their one eyed vengeance to their full time jobs like fighting over oil fields.
nadt said
ameen to that falling in ...ameen to that falling in place...
Platao36 said
Falling in place: I agree ...Falling in place: I agree 200% with you
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
logicsays said
Those Clericks .. don't they have other things to worry about? ..."The best way to predict the future is to create it".
adey said
I am sure ...castration is on offer if they can't control 'the urge'!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Muhammed12 said
When the Lord has given two ...When the Lord has given two eyes , how can a human order to use one eye ..
Instead of one eye veil , maybe its better to ban makeup ,this makes more sense.
Echo said
Would it not just make more ...Would it not just make more sense to ban eye make-up?
mjamille28 said
funny,.. never needed ...funny,.. never needed make-up to look seductive... :P
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MagicDragon said
Would it not just make more ...Would it not just make more sense to ban Sheikh Habadan?
Vivo Bonito said
beauty is appreciated when ...beauty is appreciated when displayed...
mjamille28 said
good idea, ...good idea, MD...
MagicDragon said
Yuck, why all that ...Yuck, why all that artificial smear in the face?
mjamille28 said
yuck, indeed... ...yuck, indeed...
MagicDragon said
Even more yucky. Look at the ...Even more yucky. Look at the blown up lips.
Alexa said
She really needs to do her ...She really needs to do her eyebrows....yukkkk
And FYI, make up and nail polish ARE banned in KSA.
Not ot buy it, but to show it when you wear it.
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
britexpat said
Why get yourself into a tizzy over comments from an ultra ...orthodox Sheikh?
He is voicing his opinions and suggesting that women wear the "Burqa" as worn by most Afghani women.
He is in a minority, so let him say what he wishes. It's only an ioinion remember.
britexpat said
Alexa.. ...Abayas,stockings, high heels, suspenders..
Don't get me going ................
Alexa said
Brit...and the funniest ...Brit...and the funniest thing is...those things and others are sold everywhere in KSA....by men...to ladies....baffeling, non?
You mess with the cat, you get the claws....
britexpat said
Alexa.. ...You're right. i've seen some stuff in "shop windows" which made even me blush!
All very strange..
Platao36 said
Brit: what has made you ...Brit: what has made you blush?
Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي
I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ
Andrews said
Cover both the eyes and keep ...Cover both the eyes and keep a Periscope under the veil