Prostitution Thread

that's why it was deleted. I was the one who reported it to Qatari.
Nevertheless the thread was becoming interesting. I'm sorry :(

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OK, thats understandable, thank you.

It also underlines mir83 and my point that we believed prostitution is less tolerable here in Qatar.

However, the fact remains that prostitution is wide spread in certain places in Qatar and thrives, until something is said by somebody, and then the routine mass deportations take place.

It goes quiet for a while, and then the 'night girls' start building up in numbers again to the level they are now.

My last sentence, before the previous thread was deleted was something like this, 'mark my words, the ladies will vanish any day now. Over the few weeks after that, their numbers will slowly increase again, and the cycle repeats it's self'.

Obviously somebody is behind this (a pimp), as a sponsor for these girls.

Cornellian, somebody answered this on the previous thread just before it was deleted. I cannot recall the poster, but it was suggested that some body in authority, possible with some 'wasta' to throw around, was probably behind it. My apologies if I have not recalled what was said precisely, but I would go along with that theory anyway. There are just far too many girls, far too often, in so many places for it to be anything else.

Unless somebody knows differently ofcourse ................?

Arrrggghhhh my country is going to the dogs!! Oh well you know what they say....if you cant beat'em join'em! JK :-P

who join who? did u acknowledge what china syndrome said? i meant as your point of view as a local?

And thats half your prostitutes gone!

Not really, they'll just find somewhere else to prostitute.

not in America...but we sure do have prostitutes..but they are illegal and are regularly busted and thrown in jail..course quickly released as soon as their pimp posts bail for them. corne is correct..its the oldest job and will remain so as long as there is a market for it...which there always will be...

I dont believe that there is big fish behind this trade. But AGENT? Yes! and some of them were thrown in jail and some are now sitting in their hometown.

It could be one reason why the authority put restrictions to issue tourist visa on single woman of certain nationalities. It was also in the papers(i read) that hotels & travel agencies were given warning and controls over issuing tourist visas. But of coarse they could not ban every single woman entering the state.

Its easy to get tourist visa, go to any travel agency or NO-star hotels, bring QR500/ with you and the persons passport copy, return back after 3-5 days and you'll get the visa for your friend. So imagine if you are an AGENT to this ladies, do you think you need big wasta in bringing them here? NO! but on the other hand, its sad to think that the authority became paranoid that even a single descent woman who came as tourist are considered as suspect in this business:(((

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Hi there, I am not sure I understand what you guys are talking about !!
I have been here almost 3 years now and have not seen one...anywhere...

Yes I do not do clubs and hotels but I go everywhere else and have not seen pros anywhere...

Do you have any ideas where these gals are hiding during daytime? I am not a night man !!

If so PM me or gimme phone numbers that you might be keeping for a rainy day or a good friend !

As I said I do not like clubs and I will not....

Thanks and have a nice week-end...

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I suppose there are not a lot of places for these girls to 'flaunt' themselves during the day time. Can you imagine them walking around Villagio taunting for business lol. A sure way direct to the airport .... do not pass go ....!! or the nearest police station.

Anyway, they are probably recovering from the night before and catching up on their beauty sleep. Also, I assume their customers are probably at work anyway.

Sorry rizorido, your going to have to become a 'night man' and get your self out and about during the dark hours if you are that desperate for a bit of 'companionship'. Unless there is a sleepless 'gal' on QL who is going to PM you for some overtime lol, or maybe a pimp might drop you a line!!!

Most of the girls hate it but they have no other choice to do it.They are sold from the own family because the family is poor and the girls are the only thing to bring some money home.Guys,is it really funny to support it?So much crime is behind that business.

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From what I've read about human trafficking most of these girls are brought in to be waitresses or domestic servants and when they arrive here they are pushed into prostitution. So my guess is it isn't one big pimp but several little ones, probably working under the guise of a legitimate business.

The most important thing to remember is that most of these girls are not out there doing this because they want to be, most of them are uneducated and have no other choices. Many are force ably addicted to drugs and abused.

And if you push them out of the bars they will operate from their homes.

I'm a firm believer in the legalization of prostitution, simply because I believe that it isn't going anywhere and by legalizing it we an edge in ensuring that the women (and men) are not victims of human trafficking, abuse and they have the proper medical treatment and protection.

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I will repeat what I mentioned in the deleted thread.

I went to Oasis ground floor bar with some friends. There were more than 30 chinese girls practically blocking the entrance chatting to each other and. We had to force our way through. Within an hour or so these girls were all over the place keeping company to "gentlemen". Btw I am not a "gentleman" lol. In the next one hour their numbers started diminishing as they were leaving with the men they were at the tables.

If such a massive show of prostitution does not need a protection of a big fish, then what?

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Again CSyndrome, I dont think you can find "pimp" here in QL or a "sleepless gal" to recommend Rizodiro!

Been in QL for quiet long time, but never encountered those, i'm always on the look at classified ads and nothing so far!:P

prostitution should be legalised. It's the only way to keep some kind of control over these activities, like periodical medical check ups, hygiene, over-exploitation issues, drug using etc.

If anybody has the opinion that by closing down the places where they are hanging out, they will just disappear he/she is wrong.

As Scarlet said in the US prostitution is illegal and yet according to The National Task Force on Prostitution over one million people in the US have worked as prostitutes in the United States, or about 1% of American women.

This proves that even the wealthiest and stronger country on the planet could not stop the phenomenon.

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darn..i missed the original thread?!..anyone can give me the summary..a bit lazy here to read..:P

"somebody answered this on the previous thread just before it was deleted. I cannot recall the poster, but it was suggested that some body in authority, possible with some 'wasta' to throw around, was probably behind it. My apologies if I have not recalled what was said precisely, but I would go along with that theory anyway. There are just far too many girls, far too often, in so many places for it to be anything else."

Sorry bajesus, you misunderstand. I was quoting another post made on the deleted thread, as you can see by my reference above. I did not state that it was fact, and hence can not therfore be accused of implanting false ideas, this is a discussion.

As for the authorities, I agree with you, I dont think they condone it, but as cornellian said, the authorities must obviously know about this problem, therefore, why the lack of action? Can you explain if they dont condone it, why not act?

I am Sorry if I upset you in any way bajesus, I did not mean to, everybody, including yourself, seem to be nice people here, so dont take it personally.
This (prostitution) is a problem every where, not just here in Qatar. Even many other countries are faced with the decision on whether to legalise prostitution or not, I believe it is a hot topic in the UK at the moment.

Those 30 chinese girls are just chatting w/ each other! they're not having S or walking naked in public? So, why they need protection?

Oh! come on, we dont have solid proof to accuse the authority of backing here.

Quote: (ChinaSyndrome)
"the authorities must obviously know about this problem, therefore, why the lack of action? Can you explain if they dont condone it, why not act?"

>How can you be sure that they're not taking any action on this?

That's a heavy accusations on the part of the authority, CS? better be careful and make sure you can back your claims;))

LOL! at "male members who advertise massage for female customers only?"

That's another case:))

Those are FREE-pros & Trolls!!

How are you?

If you want us to be fully convinced of what you've witnessed at the oasis you better elaborate otherwise be prepared to be 'misinterpreted'( like being a racist) by other members because you werent careful with your words.

It maybe as gypsy said, they probably have more important things to do.
So possibly they decide to deal with it in one big swoop now and then rather than a little bit every day.

Its when it becomes too egregious that more severe forms of punishment should be undertaken. Besides, prositutes are people and those who pay for their services are people so it could be anybody! and if you don't steer clear from the few places where YOU KNOW such activites are taking place then it's not really the authorities fault now is it?

........... OK, look at it from this percpective, we have had reports of 30+ prostitutes in Oasis, lots of people are aware of this from the postings here. Lots of other people are aware of prostitution at other places, so we can assume it is widely known by now.

As cyman said, somebody tells tales of two people in a relationship, and they are 'raided'.

So where is the action here?

....... and it is not a 'heavy accusation', read again, I merely posed the question

"........... why the lack of action? Can you explain if they dont condone it, why not act?"

Whats heavy about that?

can you make yourself clear of what you mean that I was not careful with my words.

It's crystal clear guys and gals. More than 30 chinese girls, most of them wearing really sexy, slutty I would say outfits, were standing between the entrance and the bar looking for customers. The place was not crowded. As it started getting busy with just men (no even one couple was there) they started approaching them. Men also started approaching. Some time later almost everyone of these girls was on the tables or on the bar with a man. By the time we left about half of them left with their companions.

Now what else do you want to believe me. I haven't followed them further :)

Gypsy, I have no idea who brings them in. I am pretty sure that it's all organised. Everybody can make his/her guess as to who is behind this.

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Try reporting/complaining to authority of any private place that conduct prostitution, and see how they will react on this?

You cannot report a hotels or a bar like Oasis & Qube! coz its just the pick up points for these pros.

And that's should hotel or bars are...... for The Guests! Pros or NOT Pros if they're inside a bar or hotels, they are entitled to the same rights as a GUESTS.

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I ask you this "if you don't steer clear from the few places where YOU KNOW such activites are taking place then it's not really the authorities fault now is it?". Like apple said, these girls or prostitutes have every right to be their as much the guests do and if the people who are paying for their services and enjoying it why are you complaining?....I thought you people were all for freedom of choice. Why do you continue to take issue if YOU CHOOSE to go to the very few places where these ladies are conducting their business?...and not even reporting to the authorties about it then insist that they're not doing much to "solve a problem" that I dont see existing! doesnt make sense at all!

I'm just trying to prove a point here! ok I'll go back to my cave now....lol

There are so many reasons people go with prostitutes. No wonder why it's been one of the most popular jobs since humans existence on earth.

First you find the sex starved people who even go with animals, never mind prostitutes.
Then you have those who are obsessed with buying, thus owning a woman, even for 1 or 2 hours, or even minutes.
Also you find men who find it difficult to make relations and this is the only way to be with a woman.

The most weird is to listen to men telling stories about their encounters with prostitutes and getting pride out of it. So I guess so many different reasons are there.

Mind you it is estimated that in the US 20% of prostitutes are male :)

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Every one are talking about the Prostitution,Prostitutes,Pimps ,Watsa,how to hook some one, what wl happen if complained to police ..bla bla.

Only very few are thinking what made these people to come in to this profession.

If we just think for a second the amount of agony,presure,humiliation these unfortunate people undergoing,ofcourse they may be paid very little as major chunk might be going for people who protect them,

but if think the diferent taste of their customers asking these unfortunate to render the services for the money they have paid in many natural , unnatural ways, they have to carry differnet weights,tastes,perform what thier esteemed customers demand.

What ever they do ,its all just for the sake of money to support themselves,their loved ones.

Its very sad.

There are so many ways to make money legally and support their family.

or for pleasure she is a whore or a slut. It's an uphill battle all the way.

I think you will have to go and get yourself laid and pay for it to prove your point *G*

As a Qatari I feel obligated to project as truthful an image of Qatar as possible. Bear in mind that QL is a source of information which provides insight for many members/non-members who have not visited or come to Qatar yet...be objective...that is why I stress the "be careful with words" part :-)

bajesus 'truthful image of Qatar hey!! Do you really want to go there...LOL

I know what you mean bajesus, and I understand. However, a lot of people here have observed the prostitute scene, and their reports are truthful, I believe cyman also, (oasis) no reason not to. Unless you have positive proof to discredit their statements, you cannot class them as liars, just because you have not seen it for your self.

As QL is a source of information, as you say for many members and non members, we expect them to believe us on all other subjects i.e. visas, hospitals, schools, shopping etc etc, so why not this subject aswell.

It is only a discussion and they will draw their own conclusions from what is said all round from everybody. And I am sure they will have already decided, from what you have said, that Qatari's are also proud of their country, and rightly so, as much as the next person is of theirs.

I can only speak for myself and not other Qatari's on here. I think you misunderstood me. Anyway, I said what I had to say and I think China got my point so I accomplished something I suppose.

I love living in Qatar and wish the Qataris well with their plans for the future.

and, bajesus, you asked about joining social groups when we go out (in the Social Group) I just wish more Nationals felt able to. I don't mean the occasions involving alcohol, just the coffee evenings or trips on a dhow etc. but I guess it isn't possible :(

Things are slowly changing for the better but Rome wasn't built in a day so we just have to wait and see.

It would be a pleasure to chat with you outside these threads - I 'lose' the 'thread' quite often *S*

But, seriously, I love living in Qatar - same as I enjoyed Saudi and (to some extent! Iraq) all those years ago - mainly because of the people I met, both local and expat :D

Nobody is saying that Qatar is a bad country because it has prostitution Baj. EVERY country in the world has prostitution. Which is why it should be legalized and controlled, not shoved under the rug.

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