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I wasn't sure where to post this thread, but here goes.
I was having a business lunch at Oishi Sushi today with a two foreign men and things were going so smoothly. I thought it was a successful meeting and we all ended our lunch happy. All of a sudden the waitress walked up to our table and excused herself to speak to the man sitting opposite me. He looked up at her in surprise and was given a business card. When he looked down at the card, it read ' You are very good looking! Would you like to go for a drink?' - and her number
He looked at me and said, 'Girls really don't have anything to do in Qatar, do they?'. I was actually embarrassed that this would happen while I was with them.
I would like to know what men think of girls that do that?
And Girls how they perceive such a behavior from other girls?
I hope I get some answers because I would like to understand the mentalities of foreign women in Qatar.


Comments
MagicDragon said
You are unfair, Pitstop. I ...You are unfair, Pitstop. I can read the letters min, lam, ta, ha, lam, zain, wow, del, but I don't know what they mean. Are you trying to tease me, or should I call my friend ............... bin Qassim Al Thani?
Disaster said
b consious always u r in the ...b consious always u r in the world of two different sexes which really attract each other when they are in a very close interaction
KellysHeroes said
Do you guys remember this thread? ...http://www.qatarlivi...
I smell something like that one :D
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qatarisun said
Did it ever come across your ...Did it ever come across your mind, dear MD, to read carefully my post? I said : maybe she wanted to get laid...i assumed that she is looking just for the good F***, that's it... why not? and you know, nothing even wrong with that! but it depends HOW and WHEN you do it...if you could notice, I keep repeating: “… offer herself IN THAT ugly WAY” …Listen, it happens: you are in your 20s, I am in my 20s, we meet at some bar, we drink a lot, we LIKE EACH OTHER (it means I like you and I know you like me)...we wake up in the morning, we even don't remember each other's name. We say 'buy' and everyone goes his/her own way... But this is not the case...
1.The woman approach the man who is accompanied by other woman - wrong
2. She is a waitress and she is at work, and she is there to serve the clients, not to harass them - double wrong
3. She even has no idea whether the guy liked her or not - no any pride whatsoever
So …either she desperately wants to get laid, or she is a prostitute. And whatever the reason is, it's not acceptable to harass the clients... Forget about woman’s pride. It is just against the rules in any service business. Can you imagine if for example entire hotel staff or "Four Seasons" will send their clients such messages? Do you still consider it as “nothing wrong with that”?
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adnanmzfr said
No actaully i was not a ...No actaully i was not a coward but i was totally alone in that hall. I had to be coward and get away from the any sort of complication.
Anyways the incident explained here in this thread is not very common happening.
MagicDragon said
Here I have to correct you, ...Here I have to correct you, QS. A man in company of a woman is far more attractive to another woman than a "loner". I always used this tactic when I wanted to stir up a new one. Called a "worn out" girl friend to make me look "hotter". It works like this.
RED_POPE said
Qatarisun ...I'm loving it, when you are talking to me so dirty, inside my confession booth!
You are making me so Hornyyyy since a long time!!!
“Be fearful when others are greedy, and be greedy when others are fearful,”
MagicDragon said
adnan, I didn't "mean" it. ...adnan, I didn't "mean" it. Don't worry.
qatarisun said
MD ...it looks like we are talking about different things...or you r just teasing me...forget about it...
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cindy_rella said
qatarisun, i clearly got the ...qatarisun, i clearly got the picture...my point is, regardless she is a prostitute or not, she is still a human being...living her own life the way she wahts it...the " 2 thumbs up go to her bravery...as i said, she is brave and confident enough to pursue what she
wants...
am not tyring to glorify her motives behind, just her guts to do it...
if a woman gives her card, she is a prostitute (?)....
in case of a man giving his card, how will u call him, qatarisun????
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
BullDog said
Judgements - Sad ...So easy to pass judgement, 1 - 2 - 3 and now she is either a [Mod Removed] or a pro.
All this discusion over a girl appraching a guy, bad judgment may be becuase he was a client, but this she does not deserve.
If this happens in any western country, would we still be calling her a pro?
Open your minds
I don't fetch, I BITE
adnanmzfr said
She must be liking him and ...She must be liking him and told him that.
KellysHeroes said
least to be said ...if the story is true. what the waitress did is indecent or inappropriate or rude. wonder why a waitress needs business cards
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MagicDragon said
We are talking about the ...We are talking about the same thing, QS. And, of course, I like teasing you. But, think again. A woman in her working environment (where she probably is 7 days a week). What other chances has she got to initiate a social relation? In the malls, maybe on Fridays? When bachelors are not allowed? I think she did the right thing. There she had the greatest chance to succeed. I would call her "clever".
cindy_rella said
i seconded, ...i seconded, bulldog...lol
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
qatarisun said
then I am hopelessly ...then I am hopelessly stupid...coz i will never understand what makes woman to make such an embarrassing move..
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SPEED said
cindy ... why don't you simply say Thumbs up to Prostitution ! ...[img_assist|nid=53652|title=|desc=|link=none|align=center|width=|height=0]
MagicDragon said
then I am hopelessly stupid, ...then I am hopelessly stupid, too...coz i will never understand what makes man make such an embarrassing move..
who.am.i said
qs, desperation drives women ...qs, desperation drives women to make such move. desperation for? of course, money and pleasure!
you know what they say bout gold-diggers dont yah?
cheers,
paul
PITSTOP said
Ok, I'm understanding that ...Ok, I'm understanding that you people have misunderstood something.
The waitress was given the business card of the blond chic that was sitting on the table beside us. She was just the messenger.
SPEED said
PITSTOP ... we understand well what you said :-) ...but Thumbs up for what ?
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BullDog said
Too Little Too Late ...by giving resturants name and waitresses discription, you have essentially got her fired.
Should not have mentioned resturants name.
I don't fetch, I BITE
qatarisun said
ooohhh...MD.. i ...ooohhh...MD.. i forgot..."equality", right?
but even a man.. do you think it's ok for any waiter to harass a woman this way? if only 1 woman complained, OMG, he would get fired in 2 seconds!
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“You become responsible forever for what you have tamed”. Antoine de Saint-Exupéry
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"What lies behind us and what lies before us are small compared to what lies within us."
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PITSTOP said
BullDog: I described the ...BullDog: I described the lady that gave her card - and yes it happened at Oishi Sushi :D
I love the food.
MagicDragon said
You know what, QS? They make ...You know what, QS? They make movies in Hollywood about situations like this one. And the rest of the world finds it amusing. And some say:" Yeah, that could have been me."
BullDog said
PITSTOP - You might wanna write carefully ...You might wanna write your post carefully, poor waitress was called many names here.
I don't fetch, I BITE
britexpat said
I'll be honest.. I can't ...I'll be honest.. I can't really see where she comes across as a prostitute.. Its a possibility, but not definite..
I think she should be given th ebenefit of the doubt..
who.am.i said
OMG! that was funny! all ...OMG! that was funny! all this time we've been talking about the wrong girl. Haha! Poor Waitress! :-(
May she forgive us.
cheers,
paul
BullDog said
Britexpat - As it turns out ...Well as it turns out ... PITSTOP was not clear in her post.
Waitress gave the card of the blonde sitting on the nearby table.
So hurrah for the waitress
I don't fetch, I BITE
g6ree said
PITSTOP ...Not to sidetrack the subject, but you mentioned that you love the food at Oishi Sushi? me too! but I wonder would you still love it if the restaurant didn't belong to your sister? hmmmm....something smells very 'fishy'! ;D
cindy_rella said
hi pitstop, obviously , we ...hi pitstop, obviously , we have different views regarding this matter...a couple of times, i have this kind of approach from men...but i didnt take it as rudeness...as a matter of fact, am flattered...it's up to me if i will accept it or not...when it was happened, i just smiled to him when i left...and throw the paper in the first trash bin i bumped, of course, without him seeing it...
well, i view this whole things in a different perpective...considering that it was in a wrong place, that woman was trying her chance with the man she likes...maybe she thought, if she let that chance slipped away, only God knows when she would see that man again...for her, she followed her thoughts and feelings...
whether she is a prostitute or not, i will stand by her side...simply bcoz am also a "woman"...
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
cindy_rella said
hi speed, i think i already ...hi speed, i think i already explained that "thums up" thing...just read carefully about my first post...thumbs up for pursuing what she wants...thumbs up to have the guts to do it...thumbs up for taking her chances...
got it, speed...
by the way, i dont glorify nor condemn prostitution...
who am i to judge them????
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
"never allow somebody to be ur priority when u r just his/her option"
PITSTOP said
There are no editing options ...There are no editing options in the thread where I can edit and add the part where the Blond lady gave the waitress the business card to give to the good looking guy that was sitting with me.
Excuse the confusion.
Vegas said
What is the big deal...It's called life??? Get one soon... ...You can't teach experience...
You can't teach experience...
Mandilulur said
Oh, oh, oh, I misunderstood. ...Oh, oh, oh, I misunderstood. It was not the wait staff who was the author of the note. Well, it becomes simply a beach of good taste rather than a completely unprofessional lapse on the part of the wait person.
Mandi
kenyaqueen said
you know folks, I have heard ...you know folks, I have heard the following statement in many forums to the effect of "people don't behave this way and that way here in Qatar" or some other country". But let me tell you that you are all wrong. What ever behaviors I see in my country I see in your country. Including selling sex, murder, inappropriate behavior from citizens. For example there was a forum about two weeks ago about a bunch of young boys who harassed a woman while she was driving through a particular area, some one made the comment that this behavior is not indicative of youth for qatar and now your saying that the sex trade doesn't exist there amongst people of qatar and it is only asian women or white western women who do it. Well if you check out some of the online articles, qatar is thriving off the sex trade whether it be girls forced into it or if they are asian or local born women. Matter of fact I read that qatar is number 3 or 4 country in the world with the highest rate in the sex trade. One of the reason why you may not see local women there as much is because they are more private about it or they go to saudi to do it. Anyway get over this thing that these things don't happen in your country cause they do.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
monique said
they treat u as walking ATMs ...they treat u as walking ATMs
PITSTOP said
kennyqueen: You are very ...kennyqueen: You are very right with what you are saying, but if you read my question - I would like to know what men think of girls that do that? And Girls how they perceive such a behavior from other girls?
How the topic/thread has gone with the comments from the members - thats another thing. Each member states his or her opinion and that is fine. It isn't a personal issue to any of us.
I don't want to offend anyone with my replies, so please all be cool about it. Personal attacks on anyone isn't cool either, so if your comment is rude or mean; buzz of - right?
Yes it is normal for a girl to be attracted to a guy she likes, but it is approaching the situation without considering other peoples reactions is wrong. Yes who are we for her to care about our feelings of such behavior, but still - it is ones self respect. There is always the right time and the right place to do things.
I wish you all a wonderful and happy day today.
If you have nothing to do today, please feel free to go down to Losail International Circuit to watch and support the local and foreign riders race Round#5 of the Qatar International Road Racing Championship.
janeyjaney said
Oh wow! Here I am confiding ...Oh wow! Here I am confiding with my girls whether I should send an sms to this guy or not.. LOL
Damn, I must be totally out of the game!!
The internet is our revenge machine
The internet is our revenge machine
MR PAUL said
Women never rush up to me and give me their number........ ...Always the bridesmaid, never the bride !!
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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a [Let's not get blocked by the Telco].
kenyaqueen said
pitstop no offense taken ...I just hear a lot of I'm high and mighty crap" and when I read into some of the comments in this particular forum those are my thoughts and like everyone else who posted, I felt like expressing my thoughts/opinion. After all it is forum of opinions.
by the way, every response to the question posted has been a personal opinion.
I too bid you a great day.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
PITSTOP said
g6ree ...I actually would. I've been a loyal eater at many restaurants that I still go to, and I don't just appreciate the food at places, but the atmosphere and ambiance of the places.
Oishi Sushi, and no I'm not advertising on her behalf because I don't think I need to, - is easy going and a fun place to eat at. The Japanese Chef has changed a lot of things on the menu and it is improving. When the place opened, I hated the food - with time, the taste got better.
Personal Opinion.
I could recommend places if you want. :D
eaglemmanuel said
Desperado ...Desperado
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eaglemmanuel said
MagicDragon - "...A man in ...MagicDragon - "...A man in company of a woman is far more attractive to another woman than a "loner".
Hell, no. At least, generally, not the decent ones, not desperate, who are professional / educated and not after your money. (I said "generally", ok?) Those who feel the need to compete, are not confident in themselves.
Btw, a man in the company of another woman is, on the face of it, unavailable (whether attached, engaged or married), so no point wasting time even looking. The most will be friend only, even great friends but nothing more.
/Yeah, deep sh*t if more women think like me. You hope not.
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MagicDragon said
A woman with a nice little ...A woman with a nice little pet dog is also easier to talk to. Ain't she?
eaglemmanuel said
A woman with a nice little ...MD - "A woman with a nice little pet dog is also easier to talk to. Ain't she?"
Y'mean like Paris Hilton? Sure... not even in your dreams.
/But well, what do I know about mega rich socialites.
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eaglemmanuel said
BullDog said about ...BullDog said about Judgements - well, yes. I guess.
Could simply be very bad judgment, forgetting where she was (not in a western country where being forward is normal). Could also be loneliness and desperation. Looking from the outside without knowing the reality behind those actions is quite dangerous.
I also agree that perhaps where she worked should not have been revealed. This is an open forum and not only members read these posts. Consequences of actions - could have caused her to lose her job and thus, livelihood. That IS sad.
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eaglemmanuel said
Finally read this - hey, ...Finally read this - hey, PITSTOP you misled everyone (unintentionally, of course I'm sure).
"The waitress was given the business card of the blond chic that was sitting on the table beside us. She was just the messenger." - Aiyah!
So your original question - "I would like to know what men think of girls that do that? And Girls how they perceive such a behavior from other girls?"
Now that the frame of reference is straightened out (sorry, had no time to read through all the posts earlier) - as long as not working there, good. Bad taste to approach a man like that esp. since biz mtg but I guess, she realized that her window of opportunity was tiny and might as well grab it while the grabbing's good.
/Don't ask grab what..
//I wouldn't be as bold as she was - but that's just me. I'm shy... ok, I'm a coward.
///Pls ignore all that I've said above. Perception of the situation was different.
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Editor2008 said
wow ...All I could say is that, I am impressed with that girl's GUTS.
I don’t want to be judgmental, but there are women who are bold enough to express their feelings. And this stuff is common practice in the liberated countries, so what's the big deal with it.
kenyaqueen said
the big deal editor is that ...the big deal editor is that pitstop is more than likely not as good looking as this other woman and maybe felt a little threat. Maybe she had a thing or two for this man herself. You know how "catty" women can be. I see it all the time.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
kenyaqueen said
the big deal editor is that ...the big deal editor is that pitstop is more than likely not as good looking as this other woman and maybe felt a little threat. And now is drumming up support for her warped theory that it is wrong to do something that is natural, meet people. Maybe she had a thing or two for this man herself. You know how "catty" women can be. I see it all the time. Pitstop, if I personally was bothered by something like this I would have had no problem in either pulling that woman aside either that night or another day and let her know that it was inappropriate for her to do this with your clients/friends instead of helping to turn a confident woman in to a hooker. And besides I thought in qatar its not right for one woman to be out dining with two men in public. Can you imagine what people are thinking, maybe she is married to one of them, maybe its her brothers or maybe their thinking this woman is about to have a threesome after dinner:) ya just never know what society is thinking!
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
I am always excited to go to sleep! In anticipation of the new experience I will find awaiting me.
zapme said
Chill ...Chill peopl. Y is it such a big deal? Pitstop, i kno how embarassed u must've felt. But lemme ask u something, wud u hav had the same reaction if some guy had hit on u?
Different people have different ways of doing it, but i'm sure all of us hav /-a-t-/ some time or the other heard some really cheesy pick up lines. & looking bak /-a-t-/ it now, i'm sure its a good laugh too.
Not saying what happened was right, but just saying try to c the lighter side of things.
midniteboy said
hpe it is tru,, ...hpe it is tru,,
Oryx said
Magic Dragon ...What a disgusting way to talk about women...
'worn out'....and drag them out to make you look hot....
gezzzzzzzzzzz zero respect. :(
i will say no more about what would make you look hotter!
MagicDragon said
oryx, could it be that you ...oryx, could it be that you did not notice the small little dashes in the front and at the ends of the phrases you quoted? But never mind. If you have an opinion, keep it.
LebanonQatar said
Brief Answer ...for her , i see that she is a very cheap girl
and for you i advice if u gave her a 5 QR and told her to go play outside
PITSTOP said
LOL kenyaqueen, you made my ...LOL kenyaqueen, you made my day with that comment and I end it at that.
heero_yuy2 said
Why did you post the 'addendum' this late, PITSTOP? ...Now my initial comment seems blurry all the sudden...
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
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PITSTOP said
I actually had to look that word up .. ...Thanks heero_yuy2, well I thought it was all said in the initial post, but apparently I missed the most important part out. Sowwweee :$
Xray said
My objection ...My objection please..."pitstop is more than likely not as good looking"
greentea said
LOL i was at Oishi Sushi late this afternoon ...and i remembered this thread. i looked around for a German looking lady waitress and cant find one... no wonder i cant see one... =))
nadt said
How did this thread suddenly ...How did this thread suddenly turn to insults about pitstop, she was just asking for opinions and i dont recall her insulting anyone.
elhdidy said
Dont worry ...Just get her phone number and arrange it here .
DaRuDe said
Ah Pitshop ...where is that place i want to go there tomorrow night to see who she picks up from our QL gang. 2 are gone and i want them all to be gone.
ringohiqups said
men do it all the time, so ...men do it all the time, so nothing wrong with a lady making the first move sometimes..
amnesia said
She was a woman that wanted ...She was a woman that wanted to meet a guy.
Who cares?
It's not a Qatar exclusive thing. It's not a foreign women thing.
She was a woman that liked the guy and wanted to get to know him.
I'm not really suprised by some of the small minded thinking...
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Gypsy said
Um, I'm really not offended ...Um, I'm really not offended by this. She thought he was cute, she gave him her number. Good on her.
arIYIana said
U have something against ...U have something against russians? or u simply have prejudices for the slavic women???
edifis said
nice girl!! ...nice girl!!