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Heaven - who has a chance?

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Personally I believe that if you lead a good, honest life and repent your sins to God you will, God willing, end up in heaven.

I have a Muslim friend who obviously believes only good Muslims will go to heaven (Jana) and I have a Protestant Christian friend who also believes that only good Christians will end up in heaven.

So why did God create all different religions if not everyone can find paradise?

Is there a religion out there that believes everyone can have a chance of reaching heaven?



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    Formatted Soul's picture

    Formatted Soul said I dont know about ...

    I dont know about others...but I have reserved my seat long back..:)

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said God created only 1 Religion ...

    God created only 1 Religion Islam the rest ones r created by the non-islamic or non followers

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said FS as always business class ...

    FS as always business class :)

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    mimas100 said According to muslims its not ...

    According to muslims its not exactly right that noyl muslims will go to jannah

    Actually muslims believe that whoever believes in the oneness of God might go to jannah whether a muslim or not,as long as he doesnt reject islam due to arrogamnce.

    abt deciding to put in heaven or hell is entirely God's decision as only he knows whats in the hearts

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    seasons said Beautiful gates :) ...

    Beautiful gates :)

     

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    mimas100 said most of the religions are as ...

    most of the religions are as a deviation from islam and Even Adam believed in 1 God..and he didnt believe that Jesus was God.

    as Jesus pboh was jsut a messenger f God..even he worshiped 1 God like a msulim

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    Missteacher said Very interesting :) So ...

    Very interesting :)

    So Muslims do actually think that non-Muslims have a chance, God Willing, to reach heaven /-a-t-/Mimas100?

    MT

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    flor1212 said there is a way to end-up there, ...

    now ANYONE should go that only way. And heaven is where God resides. So it's HIS rule. HIS way, HIS commandments. Anyone who wants to end-up in heaven SHOULD follow HIS rule. And HIS rule is very simple if you view it HIS way. But since men view this rule on man's view, then that where the difference comes-in.

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    mimas100 said MT yes they do,God isnt ...

    MT

    yes they do,God isnt unjust.and islam is fair.if u udnerstand it from the right source with the right explanations,

    people have tried to distort it a lot,we should focus on reading the basic texts ourselves and if v dont understand and then ask for explanations

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said I have a Protestant Christian ...

    I have a Protestant Christian friend who also believes that only good Christians will end up in heaven.

    Christians follow Jesus-I.S.A(P.B.U.H) who is a Muslim
    they still r confused if they r Christians or Muslims
    Note :Atheist can keep clean from this type of topics as it is a religious discussion. no religion - no discussion simple logic

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    Captain_Lost's picture

    Captain_Lost said LOL.. FS .. Do you want me ...

    LOL.. FS .. Do you want me give you a one-way ticket to heaven now? :p

    Well its not true that ONLY good Muslims will get paradise...as mamas100 said.. Anyone who belives in oneness of God, can go to heaven .. Even after spending their punishment in hell, people can still go to heaven...

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    Missteacher said Yes...but my Protestant ...

    Yes...but my Protestant friend believes that Jesus Christ was a Jew and the Son of God as you probably know and you and my Muslim friend of course believe he was a prophet and a Muslim.

    :S

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    Missteacher said LOL /-a-t-/Captain_Lost....if ...

    LOL /-a-t-/Captain_Lost....if you have one then yes please! :)

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    flor1212 said BG, we have different books, ...

    we believe in the Bible and Muslims believe in Quran. In the Bible, there is no mention of Islam, so let's leave it that way.

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said flor how many times the bible ...

    flor how many times the bible was revised testaments changed how can ppl believe the bible
    for eg : pork prohibited , alcohol prohibited in the first testa and in the second it changes

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said likewise in Quran Alcohol was ...

    likewise in Quran Alcohol was haram is haram will remain either Muslims drink or dont drink in Quran it remains the same Haram

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    mimas100 said flor1212 BIBLE possibly ...

    flor1212

    BIBLE possibly consists word of God,but as u might know it also consits words of many many humans and many changes in many versions and testaments.

    and u should watch the video in youtube ''is Quran God's word'' too, by zakir naik

    zakir naik is also a schoalr of the bible,i read it myself, u might realise its not from God,or that it cant be from God if u read only chapter 23 book of ezekiel

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    flor1212 said BG, it's the translation that ...

    had the mistakes, not the original text.

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    mimas100 said flor 1212 ...

    But hw can u believe in somthign of which u dotn even know what the original text says?

    u shud read surah maryam in the Quran..it talks abt mary and Jesus pboh's stry

    its interesting do read

    http://quran.com/19

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said so which one is the correct ...

    so which one is the correct one ? n how can translations mistakes happen in religion case ( as it important bible or quran )

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    FathimaH said God alone knows who has a chance ...

    It is for Him alone to decide. As for us mere mortals, it's upto us to follow God's commands and live and die upon good deeds and righteousness as much as we can, and then hope for His rewards, aka paradise.

    "And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)

     

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    Captain_Lost said Lol.. MT .. Hope you got a ...

    Lol.. MT .. Hope you got a visa or valid RP for heaven

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    flor1212 said mimas, that your view ...

    and I respect that. I believe in the Bible and I believe there is only ONE God and Lord Jesus is man and NOT GOD! Am I a Muslim?

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    mimas100 said http://islamtomorrow... BIBLE ...

    http://islamtomorrow...

    BIBLE OR QURAN ,DO READ FROM FORMER CHRISTIAN MISSIONARY

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Missteacher said Yes...but my ...

    Missteacher said Yes...but my Protestant ...

    Yes...but my Protestant friend believes that Jesus Christ was a Jew and the Son of God - My God is Allah and ur or ur friends who is God pls specify ??

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said flor ur a muslim by birth as ...

    flor ur a muslim by birth as Allah gives life to everyone , every child is born a muslim later the child just follows as his parents r taught or follow the same religion and the ones who realize later revert back to Islam

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    Highlander88 said Mine is not Religion.... but just an opinion. ...

    MissT... with all due respect, The Great Almighty did not created "Religion". HIS creatures did. And "NO ONE" among us believers can judge "who can" and "who cannot" enter Heaven. Everyone has the chance to enter Heaven... Of course, depending on how one live, ones life here on Earth.

    The TEN Commandments is the greatest guidance given to Mankind by The Great Almighty to enter the Pearly Gates of Heaven. Live with it (though I have not... yet...)and surely you will not have tears in Heaven but pure laughter and ultimate happiness.

    And please don't disregard to practice "Charity" to the needy.

    Hope to see you in Heaven... MissT.

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said flor ISA (P.B.U.M) saiddont ...

    flor ISA , Jesus (P.B.U.H) said
    dont eat pork who follows - I Follow
    dont drink alcohol - I follow
    so if u say ur a christian i m more Christan than u coz i follow his teachings

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    Jothish said babu ...

    then who you are?

    Any way You are a great man dear!

     

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    flor1212 said BG, No I'm not, I'm a Christian ...

    to the true sense. Islam started on a certain period of time but not during the first creation or as someone said, "'til the time your Prophet was visited by Angel Gabriel".

    The Bible is very specific about that, people before the birth of Christ were called. children or people of God. Christians started when Christ started His teachings.

    Old and New testaments of the Bible is very CLEAR, there is only One God and Christ is man in nature from the time He was born until now that He sits on the right side of the Father and when the time comes that He will be sent by the Father in the day of judgment, He remains a man.

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Old and New testaments of the ...

    Old and New testaments of the Bible is very CLEAR, there is only One God and Christ is man in nature from the time He was born until now that He sits on the right side of the Father and when the time comes that He will be sent by the Father in the day of judgment, He remains a man.

    who created the bible and if Jesus (ISA P.B.U.H) is a muslim how can u be a christian and also explain if Jesus is the son of God who is ur God

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    Doha-Chap2022 said A Muslim can just be a Muslim ...

    A Muslim can just be a Muslim by name, and not have an ounce of Iman.

    But all Mu'mins (those with Iman) are promised to enter Heaven eventually, even if they had the tiniest amount of Iman in their hearts. If a person had lived a corrupted lifestyle, but had done something good in his/her life just once with sincerity in his lifetime, he has a chance to enter Heaven someday.

    None of us are free from sins, that's why we should always repent and ask Allah for forgiveness. The doors of repentance are open as long as we are alive and breathing in this world.

    Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha'olam
    blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

    oseh ma'asei v'reiss'hit
    Who does the work of Creation

     

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    flor1212 said Who is your God, BG? ...

    as per Quran? It's the same God as in the Bible!

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    Missteacher said Thanks ...

    Thanks everyone...

    /-a-t-/Highlander88 you say, "MissT... with all due respect, The Great Almighty did not created "Religion". HIS creatures did". So is Islam not a religion? & did God did not create Islam....you say his creatures created it? I thought Muslims believed God created Islam - meaning submission to the will of God and obedience to His law.

    /-a-t-/BG - My friend believes the son, (Jesus Christ), the father (God) and the the Holy Spirit (both) are all the one God...hence they call it the Trinity.

    /-a-t-/Captain_Lost - haha! I bloody well hope so!!

    MT

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    ingeniero said Christianity was a true ...

    Christianity was a true religion 1430 years before until the Last Prophet came, same is case of Judaism, Jews were on right path, till Jesus starting preaching,


     

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    Jothish said ho ...

    So Binladan , Gaddafi are in Hevan? , if only muslims are allowed to get in the Hevan?

     

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    mimas100 said missteacher islam means ...

    missteacher

    islam means submitting urself completely to God

    its a way of life.:)

    btw i dont think highlander88 is a muslim,i think hes a christian.:)

    btw i agree that other way of life than islam was created by humans by their own personal desires or beliefs

    http://islamtomorrow...

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    flor 1212

    Yes bible's God and Quran's God is the same.but christians attribute divinity to a human and a great messenger Jesus pboh.thats what i disagree with

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    flor1212 said DC, there are two kinds BOOKS in heaven ...

    the book of acts,which record all the deeds (good or bad) made by each individual (yes, these books are handled by individual angels who do the recording.

    But what we should be concerned is the other Book, the Book of Life, which God Himself handles. On this book, all the names of those who will enter heaven are listed. And this is what we should be concerned about, let ourselves be included in the Book of Life.

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said flor and in the last what did ...

    flor and in the last what did christians do with Jesus ( ISA PBUH )hanged him on a Cross ??? this is what u do to the son of God

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    mimas100 said if highlander is a muslim im ...

    if highlander is a muslim im srry its my misunderstanding

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    mimas100 said if highlander is a muslim im ...

    if highlander is a muslim im srry its my misunderstanding

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    Missteacher said Very nice read ...

    Very nice read /-a-t-/mimas100 Thank you.

    /-a-t-/Jothish - no i asked whether Muslims believe only GOOD Muslims have a chance.

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    flor1212 said Mimas, you must be confused about ...

    the divinity bestowed to Jesus by the Catholics and other Christian denomination religions.

    But my belief is Christ for everything that He had done (the ultimate sacrifice of giving up His life for those who will be saved in the end time) is entitled to be worshipped BUT not as God because there is only one God. There is one verse in the Bible that says, "all knees be bend...." upon him. I worship Christ as the Savior, as the Son of God, as the Mediator BUT not as GOD.

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Islam has only one Allah no ...

    Islam has only one Allah no other God ,i wld like to know how bible came into creation , and by whom and why did the changes in bible occur , its a God Holy book as per u flor or as per Christians so how can there be mistakes in it

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    flor1212 said BG, where did you get that info? ...

    "Christians" hanged Jesus to the cross?

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said then who was it ? ...

    then who was it ?

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    flor1212 said BG, can you use proper English, ...

    I'm quite confused by your sentence!

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said he was nailed to the cross is ...

    he was nailed or crucified to the cross is this English better ?

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    ingeniero said Jothish, Who knows :) ...

    Jothish, Who knows :)


     

    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said BG, what mistakes in the Bible? ...

    maybe you are referring to the translated text?

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said and was God sleeping that ...

    and was God sleeping that time when ppl crucify his son doesnt he have power to save his son

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said flor1212 said Who is your ...

    flor1212 said Who is your God, BG? ... Allah

    as per Quran? It's the same God as in the Bible - Allah
    Congrats Flor ur a muslim we must circumcise u asap

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    Rizks said Oh dear me.... isn't this to ...

    Oh dear me....

    isn't this to be posted in "Religious group" rather then "Problem or Comments"....?

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    flor1212 said can you explain this? ...

    "what did christians do with Jesus ( ISA PBUH )hanged him on a Cross ???" You posted this at 2:30 pm

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    Doha-Chap2022 said Jothish: who said only ...

    Jothish: who said only Muslims are allowed to heaven?

    Surely those who believed (In the one true God down the ages) and those who are Jews (Followed the true teachings of Moses) and the Sabians and the Christians,( who followed the true teachings of Jesus) whoever amongst them believed in God and the last day and did good, they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve." Maidah {5:69}

    Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha'olam
    blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

    oseh ma'asei v'reiss'hit
    Who does the work of Creation

     

    ingeniero's picture

    ingeniero said Baburao, you are going in the ...

    Baburao, you are going in the wrong direction, try to refine your words prior to posting it,


     

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    Missteacher said It was Jews who hung Jesus ...

    It was Jews who hung Jesus Christ on the cross as far as I was aware. (Jesus Christ also being a jew himself according to the bible)

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    Missteacher said Lol ...

    /-a-t-/Rizks - I was trying to find religion as a group and I couldn't see it. So I figured its a problem/issue I have in my mind and would like people to comment to help me :)

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    mimas100 said lets leave this debate and ...

    lets leave this debate and come to common terms ppl

    islam says abt the same God as in Christianity.

    islam is the only religion other than christianity to believe in Jesus

    muslims follow Jesus's teaching as well.but we dont follow Paul's teachings.

    Quran acknowledges that the Gospels wer from God,but those wer changed

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    flor1212 said I think you need re-read Quran again ...

    "and was God sleeping that time when ppl crucify his son doesnt he have power to save his son"

    You must know how powerful God or Allah is!

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said why did the Jews crucify ...

    why did the Jews crucify

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    Rizks said Missteacher i meant in ...

    Missteacher i meant in "Religious Teachings Group" here :-
    http://www.qatarlivi...

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    mimas100 said flor1212 christians ...

    flor1212

    christians philosophy errs aa bit .taht Jesus took all their sin and God let him sacrifice himself

    if u understand,,,if u r neighbour commits a crime,,do u kill ur own son to forgive ur neighbour

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Flor yes my Allah has already ...

    Flor yes my Allah has already saved him and will bring him down on the Day Of Judgement but why didnt ur god save him this is the question

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    Captain_Lost said Whats all the fuss about ... ...

    Whats all the fuss about ... anyone who's in a hurry to go to heaven soon .. pm me, i can give you all one way tickets to heaven... :P

    at least then, i can have some peace here :D

    Oh and there's an offer going on... Buy one get one free !!!

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    Arien said Read ma signature..if you ...

    Read ma signature..if you still dont understand, I can only pity you all.

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said shut up captain u fool ppl by ...

    shut up captain u fool ppl by taking them to banana island and later locking up urself in the washroom no ways i m coming with u

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    mimas100 said Arien yes u can believe that ...

    Arien yes u can believe that the big bang occured on its own and the whole of universe came to existence suddenly through a blast,,,

    but have u ever seen a blast of energy resulting in creation of small universes?

    so hw com u believe in no God?

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    Missteacher said The jews crucified him ...

    The jews crucified him because they did not believe that Jesus was the son of God and thought he was committing a crime of blasphemy.

    /-a-t-/BG - In the bible does it not say that God did save him as he rose again to sit at the right hand of the father?

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said back to topic misscheater why ...

    back to topic misscheater why did jews crucify Jesus

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    Arien said Mimas , so you have seen ...

    Mimas , so you have seen all those crap you preach here?

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    flor1212 said this is my belief, ...

    there are three great division of time. The time of our FORFATHERS (from the creation of Adam to the time of birth of Abraham), the time of the PROPHETS (from birth of Abraham to birth of Christ) and the last division, the Christian Era, from the birth of Christ until the second coming or judgment day.

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    Jothish's picture

    Jothish said Doha Chap Muslims said only ...

    Doha Chap

    Muslims said only muslims are allowed !

     

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said i dont know which bible to ...

    i dont know which bible to read n trust it always keeps changing as i had heard till he was crucified abt his raising up is sum thing new for me

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    khokhoy said for it is written : "In the ...

    for it is written :

    "In the beginning is the Word;
    and the Word was made flesh and dwelt amongst us"

    "I and the Father are One"

    He is the Alpha nad the Omega

     

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    Doha-Chap2022 said Well. According to Hebrews ...

    Well. According to Hebrews 5:7

    God actually saved his son.
    King James Bible
    Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared;

    Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha'olam
    blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

    oseh ma'asei v'reiss'hit
    Who does the work of Creation

     

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    Missteacher said Did you not read my above ...

    Did you not read my above answer /-a-t-/BG???

    The jews crucified him because they did not believe that Jesus was the son of God and thought he was committing a crime of blasphemy.

    MT

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    khokhoy's picture

    khokhoy said The Bible has not ...

    The Bible has not changed;
    google "The Dead Sea Scrolls"

     

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said special modification ? ...

    special modification ?

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    Doha-Chap2022's picture

    Doha-Chap2022 said Jothish: I don't care what ...

    Jothish: I don't care what other ppl say, I only care for what the Scriptures say. And that one came right out from the Scriptures.

    Barukh atah Adonai, Eloheinu, melekh ha'olam
    blessed are you, Lord, our God, sovereign of the universe

    oseh ma'asei v'reiss'hit
    Who does the work of Creation

     

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said khokhoy i had already a ...

    khokhoy i had already a discussion with a respected Qler quoting the bible is corrupt

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    Missteacher said I don't understand your ...

    I don't understand your comment /-a-t-/ BG

    MT

    Respect - To get it, you must give it. peace

     

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    khokhoy said All is predicted in the ...

    All is predicted in the Bible, including the rise of the new Roman Empire (European Council)

     

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    flor1212 said Mimas, I like your post at 2:50. ...

    precisely that is God's rule, each individual is answerable for each sin committed. As to how Christ somehow "circumvent" that rule when He died in the cross, I will discuss that in person.

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

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    Rizks said Let everyone follow their own ...

    Let everyone follow their own religions, why so much of fuss and arguments ? :(

    Its not us who decide whether we go to Heaven or HELL - its obviously our GOD !

    Havent our religion thought us to Love and Respect everyone ?

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said saiah 65 & 66 declare ...

    saiah 65 & 66 declare Christianity to be a false religion!

    The sections of this article are:

    1- Isaiah 65 and 66, the future of Israel, and the cursed ones who eat pork.
    2- So what is it? Is pig's meat allowed today or not?

    3- Wrong interpretation of Christianity? Or a complete failure of receiving the Holy Spirit?

    4- The Holy Spirit, the conflict of inspiration between Paul and the other Disciples.

    (a)- Paul was declared to be a false apostle and a liar by even some of the disciples!

    5- The Bible's overwhelming corruption, even according to it's own theologians!

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said its a debate not a fuss if u ...

    its a debate not a fuss if u dont like move out told u 100 TIMES

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    flor1212 said BG, that's our difference, ...

    you can easily say "Bible is corrupt" but if we say the other way, we are charged with the big "B".

    Please let us have a "healthy" and "civil" discussions!

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    Missteacher said So really I denote from this ...

    So really I denote from this discussion that the general opinion is that if you believe in the oneness of God, and lead a good, honest, repenting life; God Willing, you will have a chance in heaven.

    The judge of this ultimately will be our upon our creator.

    Amen.

    MT

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    Baburao-Ganpatr... said The Bible's books and ...

    The Bible's books and gospels, according to its own translators and theologians, were

    Written by mysterious men.
    Written by an unknown number of men.
    Written in unknown places.
    Written in unknown dates.

    Paul never even met Jesus Christ in person while the latter was on earth. It is falsely claimed that Jesus appeared to Paul while Paul was on his way to Damascus after the "crucifixion" (Acts 9:2-4. Note: Paul's name used to be Saul. Yet, Paul admittedly wasn't even sure whether the Holy Spirit was inspirning him or not).

    None of the disciples, even in the false writings attributed to them, ever claimed that their writings were inspired or Divine. Not only that, but we even ironically see that:

    Luke for instance, wrote his "gospel" for the sake of another person and not GOD Almighty. See below for details.
    The disciples even fought with each others [1] [2].
    We read about direct invitations to dinner and other occasions between the disciples in the "books" [1].
    According to the commentaries below, all of the books of the bible were altered and corrupted.

    The Bible's own theologians even admit that the bible contains "fictions", its original manuscripts "had been lost", and contains "fairy tails and fables".

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