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Heaven - who has a chance?

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Personally I believe that if you lead a good, honest life and repent your sins to God you will, God willing, end up in heaven.

I have a Muslim friend who obviously believes only good Muslims will go to heaven (Jana) and I have a Protestant Christian friend who also believes that only good Christians will end up in heaven.

So why did God create all different religions if not everyone can find paradise?

Is there a religion out there that believes everyone can have a chance of reaching heaven?



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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said coz ur self is a kid owise u ...

    coz ur self is a kid owise u wouldn't be interested here

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said MT i hope u do ur homework on ...

    MT i hope u do ur homework on the weekend till then cya ! have a nice weekend without typo errors

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    max1986's picture

    max1986 said MT wrote it by mistake at first ...

    But then u provoked her to do it again by insulting

    Boys don't have feelings, they have muscles

     

    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said max if u provoke me i am ...

    max if u provoke me i am intelligent enough not to rephrase bible

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    max1986's picture

    max1986 said i know ur level of intelligence BG ...

    U r getting boring repeating same things and no more fun to talk to

    Boys don't have feelings, they have muscles

     

    polkadots's picture

    polkadots said Can some one tell me the ...

    Can some one tell me the ACTUAL difference of being a Christian and a Muslim, doing away with nitti gritties like alcohol and what not?The more I live here the more the boundaries[ if ever it exists] are becoming unclear. As I see it, both are following the same text ,taught by different teachers, and I see my Muslim brethren giving more respect to Jesus[PUBH] than Christians reciprocating to Mohammed[PUBH], even to Jesus[PUBH]himself! The Davinci Code was made by a Christian and was banned in a lot of Muslim countries,….I hope to see the day when Both Christians and Muslims realize how similar their texts are, the brothers that they are and truly be at peace with each other…..

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    britexpat's picture

    britexpat said polkadots.. ...

    Well said. We need to focus more on the similarities, than the differences.

    In addition, we need to learn to accommodate all others no matter what their beliefs.

     

    nomerci's picture

    nomerci said polka..you did it again!!! ...

    polka..you did it again!!! Big "Like".

    " Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.

     

    seasons's picture

    seasons said Well said polkadots.. ...

    Well said polkadots..

     

    FlyingAce's picture

    FlyingAce said Frankly it depends on the ...

    Frankly it depends on the Deeds of the Person, No one can reserve a Place in Heavens, Only GOD knows....

     

    metoyou's picture

    metoyou said HI there, I am a protestant, ...

    HI there, I am a protestant, In my religion WE believe that when we accept Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior we are save and can enter the Kingdom of God.

    I am not against with the muslims and i have great respect for them. Love your neighbor as you love your God.

     

    Missteacher's picture

    Missteacher said Well said /-a-t-/Polkadots ...

    Well said /-a-t-/Polkadots :)

    /-a-t-/metoyou...so you think that only Christians have a chance then, same as my friend, as obviously Muslims believe in a different Jesus Christ and Jews don't believe the Son of God has come yet.

    Then there are atheists who don't believe in God. Where do they stand?

    MT

    Respect - To get it, you must give it. peace

     

    metoyou's picture

    metoyou said Hello there Missteacher... I ...

    Hello there Missteacher... I am not saying that only Christians can enter the heaven. What I am saying is base on what i believe in. (Who knows at the end we are all going into one place which is called "Heaven" but different entrance" :)

    Have a nice day to you! :)

     

    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said During the great flood at the time of Noah, ...

    it was God who instructed to build the Ark and while he is building it, he kept telling the people at that time that the will of God is for those who want to survive the flood should come to the ark. And many people actually al except the his 7 love ones believe him and look what happened.

    In this modern times, the only problem is there are so many arks being preached so for sure, mere believing will not save you, ONE need to enter the "ark" because it is the way to be saved. Now it's up to one individual to choose which ark to enter because mere believing will not save one.

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said Now, what I want to know is, ...

    is Islam a religion? It should be because religion means "the way to God". It's an organization per se since you need to be converted (other called it "reversion") to be a Muslim (believer of Islam, right?).

    My next question is, how can people who live before Prophet Mohammad's time be called Muslims when Islam was preached in the 5th century (not sure though).

    BG said I am a Muslim since I believe in the ONENESS of God but I am not. I am a Christian since the Bible also teaches only ONE God and I believe Christ as the Savior since He is the Son of God who's final task is to come back and get all those people (children) of God who will be saved comes Judgment Day. Good afternoon everyone!

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    mimas100's picture

    mimas100 said http://www.youtube.c... heres ...

    http://www.youtube.c...

    heres an clear cut answer between scholars..just watch and understand

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    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said mimas, I will not ...

    risk my salvation to a recorded or taped film or whatever in Youtube. You want clear and clean answer, make it personal!

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Flor if Isa PBUH is a muslim ...

    Flor if Isa PBUH is a muslim how ? how ? how ? can his followers be non muslims

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said 18. Surah Al-Kahf (The Cave) ...

    http://www.dar-us-sa...
    for those who beliving in other religions means ur agreeing there r God or Gods other than Allah ( which is Shirk )

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said In Islam, shirk (Arabic: شرك‎ ...

    In Islam, shirk (Arabic: شرك‎ širk) is the sin of idolatry or polytheism. i.e. the deification or worship of anyone or anything other than the singular God, or more literally the establishment of "partners" placed beside God. It is the vice that is opposed to the virtue of Tawheed (monotheism).[1]

    Within Islam, shirk is an unforgivable crime; God may forgive any sin if one dies in that state except for committing shirk.[1][2

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    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said BG, how can Lord Jesus ...

    be Muslim when Islam was establish long after Him? When did Islam started?

    Who administer Muslims nowadays? Why the different instructions from different Imams?

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said BG, we both believe in the Oneness of God. ...

    but yours is based on Quran while mine is based on the Bible. I respect yours, can you respect mine?

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

    Missteacher's picture

    Missteacher said /-a-t-/ BG - you say "Flor if ...

    /-a-t-/ BG - you say "Flor if Isa PBUH is a muslim how ? how ? how ? can his followers be non muslims"

    You believe that Jesus (Isa) was a Muslim and a prophet and Flor believes that Jesus is the Son of God and not Muslim.

    Therefore you believe in two different men called Jesus...so you can't compare them to each other. So Flor is not following your Jesus that's why he is non-Muslim.

    Although both religions believe there was a man called Jesus Christ. They don't believe in the same one. Muslims believe in Isa the prophet and Christians in Jesus the Son of God.

    MT

    Respect - To get it, you must give it. peace

     

    flor1212's picture

    flor1212 said MT, wrong, BG and me ...

    are talking about the same man. and same belief except that I don't believe Jesus or Isa is a Muslim. We share common belief that He is a prophet, son of God or Allah and will be the one coming back on judgment day! I just don't believe that He is Muslim because Islam started only after their Prophet Mohammad taught about it and Lord Jesus was dead, resurrected and went to heaven a long time ago even before Islam.

    FINALLY...............the best thing happened!

     

    Ayeman97's picture

    Ayeman97 said Wait, Let me tell you ...

    Wait, Let me tell you something why Islam is unique?

    What makes Islam so unique?

    - Prayers = Other religions also pray to their god.
    - Charity = Other religions also recommend them to pay charity
    - Pilgrimage= Other religions also perform pilgrimage from one city to other.
    - Fasting = Other religions also fast, but not same as each other.

    So, what makes Islam so unique?

    The answer is = The first pillar of Islam and Iman.

    ~ To testify that

    "There is no god but God worthy worship but Allah, and Muhammad is the messenger of God."

    AND ALSO

    "Believe in the oneness of Allah"

    So, according to our believe, not all the muslim will go to Jannah.

    The Prophet said:

    "Whoever says there is no god but Allah enters Paradise even if he commits adultery and even if he steals (i.e. even if he commits great sins)."

     

    Missteacher's picture

    Missteacher said Am I not right that Muslims ...

    Am I not right that Muslims do not believe Jesus is the Son of God or God (Allah). That to them as BG has stated earlier, would be the sin of shirk.

    I heard the question before by a Muslim to a Christian, "Why do you not believe in Mohammed, when we believe in Jesus and all the other prophets?"

    This is when I say....Muslims don't believe in the same Jesus that Christians believe in.

    MT

    Respect - To get it, you must give it. peace

     

    Ayeman97's picture

    Ayeman97 said Well, firstly, we do believe ...

    Well, firstly, we do believe Jesus as our prophet, but he is clearly not son of god. That's why Islam is unique. Muslims believe "The Oneness Of Allah". That shows that he does not have any partners, no wives, no sons and no daughter. He is alone, the creator of everything.

    Miss Teacher, do you really think that Jesus is son of god?
    If you want to learn more about Islam, you can go to Fanar and there's a lot of information there at the ground floor.

    Peace.

     

    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said his name is ISA PBHM and he ...

    his name is ISA PBHM and he is a muslim and the muslims follow his teachings more than the christians for eg , pork is prohibited yet how many christians eat pork?

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    Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

    Baburao-Ganpatr... said Jesus, a Muslim, was Neither Killed, nor Crucified ...

    We have seen that Jesus (pbuh) greeted his disciples like a Muslim, by saying: “Peace be unto you”, when he appeared before them after his so-called ‘resurrection’ (John 20:19). Muslims use the same words to greet, (but in Arabic): Assalaamu Alaikum.

    We have also seen that the utterances of Jesus have been supportive of and predicting about the rise of Muhammad (pbuh), and through him the belief Islam and the believing nation of Muslims, to which his followers are required to join.

    In John 16: 12 & 13, Jesus says:

    “I have yet many things to say unto you,

    but you cannot bear them now.

    Howbeit when he, the spirit of truth, is come,

    He will guide you into all truth; ”
    The common thing observed from the above verses is: Jesus (peace be upon him) prays to the Lord to save him from the anticipated persecution at the hands of the Jews; yet not as Jesus wishes but as the Lord wills. Do you realize what Jesus is stating at this moment? He subdues his wishes and submits himself to the will of Allah. In other words, Jesus declares his Islam, submission, at that moment.

    As already explained in Article 1 in this series: A Muslim is one who has submitted to the will of Allah. Islam means submission (to the will of Allah), while it also means Peace. Thus, by declaring his submission to the will of Allah, Jesus declared himself to be a Muslim.

    It was also mentioned in Chapter 2 that Jesus (pbuh), as also the other prophets before him, called themselves ‘Muslims’.

    But, then, why their followers were not named as ‘Muslims’, too?

    If the followers of the different other prophets were also to be called as ‘Muslims’, then there would have been confusion in distinguishing between the true Muslims (who believe in all the prophets) and the followers of other prophets (who believe in some prophets and disbelieve in the rest). Belief in all the messengers of Allah is a basic requirement to be called a Muslim. Allah tells the Muslims in Qur'an:

    “ Say (O Muslims): We believe in Allah and that which is revealed unto us and that which was revealed unto Abraham, and Ishmael, and Isaac, and Jacob, and the tribes, and that which Moses and Jesus received, and that which the Prophets received from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and unto Him we have surrendered. ” (2:136)

    Thus, Jesus (pbuh) practiced Islam, i.e., Submission and he got Islam, i.e., Peace. How?

    The Bible tells us in Luke 22:43

    “ And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.”

    This is in appreciation of his act of Submission and as an answer to his prayers. The strength at that moment but what he needed most desperately was solace and assurance from the Lord that he would be saved from the arrest and wanted the freedom to perform the things he wanted to do as a Muslim.

    So, Jesus the Muslim (peace be upon him) had prayed in ARABIC: “Yaa Ilaahi, Yaa Ilaahi, Lima Sabaqtanee? ”. Does the phrase sound familiar? Yes, this is what he asked the Lord at that moment. “O my Lord, O my Lord, Why have you advanced me (in my end)? ”

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    A man is incomplete until he is married. After that, he is finished.

     

    Missteacher's picture

    Missteacher said /-a-t-/ Ayeman97 - Thanks I ...

    /-a-t-/ Ayeman97 - Thanks I have read it all as I went to Arabic lessons there. I also have lots of books about Islam and the Quran translated in english. I also have a great Arabic friend who tells me lots.

    Lets just say I am looking for the truth.

    MT

    Respect - To get it, you must give it. peace

     

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    FathimaH said MT ...

    May God truly guide you and make easy your quest for the truth..Aameen! Don't be disheartened by the stuff you may hear (and read)along the way..be steadfast and let not arrogance and pride cloud your judgement. So far you seem to be doing pretty good so keep it up. And if I can be of any help to you in your studies do pm me anytime and I will do all I can.
    Meanwhile bare in mind that Islam, like most religions before it, has it's share of deviants and extremists. in fact our Prophet himself stated that Islam will devide into more sects that even Christians and Jews! So not everyone who claims to be Muslims are upon the path of Muhammad(peace be upon him). Hence if anyone is to tell you something from Islam ask them for the source. And check it carefully. Anything that has no proof from the Quran and authentic Prophetic narations is best disregarded, even if it be of the most flowery of speach. Take care and wish ya all the best. xox

    "And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)

     

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    polkadots said /-a-t-/ Baburao ...

    /-a-t-/ Baburao Ganpath..
    Just by wishing "peace" you define being a muslim?Jesus or for that matter the rest of the world had on concept of the religion Islam untill Prophet Mohammed codified it and brought about some law and order. What was this religion called before Prophet Mohammed? Wishing "Peace" is a custom in those days of the region and might even show the same origins of the different people using it, Jesus says "Shalom”-meaning peace in hebrew, which was the language he used at that time, this greeting is practiced by the Jews to this day but would they be considered any where close to Muslims? AND one more thing Jesus never prohibited eating or drinking anything because according to him"It is not something that goes inside[your body ]that defiles a person,but that which comes from within[his words , thoughts and actions]
    In other words, eating clean [halal/kosher] food is a necessity but a greater one is keeping the soul/thoughts / actions clean.

    You can be HOT or COLD to me, spare me LUKEWARM!!!!

     

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