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A small request to all you narrow minded and broad minded QLer's Please stop dropping fears into people lives thus making them not live with a open heart.

You dont wanna do to the mall dont go .. but you scaring people isnt the solution

Accidents happen people die life goes on ...

RIP to everyone who passed away in the accident

but for those who are spreading fear in the eyes of people i would tell u not to cross the road, drive a car , or even go to work you may be hit by a car or a truck and worse to worse an TSUAMI

GROW UP SERIOUSLY


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ehumann's picture

ehumann said c'est la vie ...

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saroshfaisal's picture

saroshfaisal said AGREED ...

completely agreed

 

Captain_Lost's picture

Captain_Lost said Agree !! ...

Agree !!

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Arien's picture

Arien said fear makes u take precautions ...

fear makes u take precautions which may save your life.

Which mall do you work for? Are you worried about the reduced foot falls?? dont worry, people will get over it and life will go on...

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TripoliAli's picture

TripoliAli said If you say C'est la Vie ...

or "[Mod Removed] happens", then you won't change anything and it will be normal in the future and [Mod Removed] will happen again and again.

 

serdal's picture

serdal said titanic ...

I like that one "fear makes you take precautions" !

"Manpower" is correct that we should not live in fear. There are risks all around us all the time, but we should be smart enough to spot the risks, minimise them ... and when it all goes wrong anyway perhaps we learn from the mistakes.

After the Titanic we required ships to carry enough lifeboats for the passengers. When we find out what happened at Villagio, lets make sure it doesnt happen again

 

Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said Is it fear to say that Qatar ...

Is it fear to say that Qatar has third world levels of safety and building quality? Is it fear to say that this could happen in virtually every building in Qatar because of the lack of basic safety precautions?

That's not fear MP, that reality!

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MarcoNandoz-01 said MN? I believe you meant MP ...

MN? I believe you meant MP lol

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Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said oops! My bad, I'm so angry ...

oops! My bad, I'm so angry and upset I can't even type properly today!

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galloper48 said MM you are right ...

the same thing happened a couple years back in a new set of towers in west bay.

Alarms didn't sounded and people realized there was something wrong when they were engulfed by smoke. Thanks god at that time nothing else happened and everybody was safe.

/-a-t-/Manpower do you realize the magnitude of the events from yesterday?? Yes I know danger is everywhere but come on being aware of my surroundings and being "prepared" "in case of" could be likely saving your life. My fear could make me "able" to respond to a situation.

Regards!!

 

flor1212's picture

flor1212 said virtually every building in QAtar? ...

wow, what a statement. As it seems that you have been to all buildings here. Read the OP's post objectively. Again, negativism rolls high.

Are you suggesting to all expatriates MM to leave Qatar? Like you did?

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flor1212's picture

flor1212 said Galloper, therer are reasonable ...

and unreasonable fear. Knowing the difference spells the difference.

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Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said How many people, how many ...

How many people, how many CHILDREN have to die Flor for you to stop kissing Qatar's ass?

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dscpnd said ........ ...

I'd say this is a complete un-reasonable word from an advance retard Mor*n.

This isn't creating fear and this is not an accident People died from road accident every day and no one is posting about it okay .. This is called negligence . the so call safety system is faulty and if it could happen in villagio it could happen any where else.

oh yea it all turns back to "if you don't like it here then go back home"

Put your self in the shoes of the Parent that lost their kids

MP: do you have to be a victim before you understand the whole incident?

 

flor1212's picture

flor1212 said MIMI, I am just looking at it ...

objectively. If you let your emotion, will there be justice for the victims. What do you want, KILL those people in your view right now without investigation. You don't know the feeling of someone like us who understand how building works from design to occupancy. Don't lecture me on emotions because I have children too.

Now tell me, with your emotions, would you still agree for a non-capital punishment?

I said, wait 'til they release an official result of investigation and then we react. Your bias is too much.

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Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said You're pathetic Flor. ...

You're pathetic Flor.

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flor1212's picture

flor1212 said you are more Mimi. ...

People like you makes this world troublesome.

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Arien's picture

Arien said flor. What sort of an ...

flor. What sort of an investigation report is going to justify the negligence?

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debbieindoha said Fighting over safety? Come On! ...

When a child care center is located inside a mall without windows or escape routes...when smoke and fire alarms aren't heard beacuse they are too low in volume or not working at all....when sprinklers aren't working....when there isn't a plan in place for evacuation, when equipment isn't required, checked, or maintained. When security personnel and shop personnel have no idea what to do in an emergency or act in rediculous ways....I think there are issues at the TOP of the chain. The investigation of lower level managers (or their arrest) is nuts! This mall shouldn't EVER have OPENED to begin with having these issues and it NEVER EVER should have opened it's doors YESTERDAY with these issues. PROBLEM? Many lower level managers who knew this and were fearful of losing their jobs....no doubt. Because if the mall was being monitored by the Fire Department (or whatever they call it here) It shouldn't have been ALLOWED to be open. PERIOD. People knew I'm sure....but the buck doesn't stop there....DUH How unpopular would the guy have been who refused to allow the mall to open b/c he knew of the issues? He'd have lost his job....perhaps we need to figure out WHY that happens here!

 

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LincolnPirate said I mentioned before, it is ...

I mentioned before, it is called "business", but I was called an "idiot" by one QLer. You see, saying the truth is not wanted in this country. Everything is fine and beautiful. Period.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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Miss Mimi said Exactly debbieindoha, in most ...

Exactly debbieindoha, in most other countries that mall would never have opened! Much less been allowed to house a nursery!

LP, some people refuse to face the truth even when it smacks them in the face.

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britexpat said The simple and sad fact is ...

The simple and sad fact is that this incident will be forgotten sooner than later, and most will return to the malls as before..

However, this should be a watershed and the loss of life should make the authorities and powers that be sit up and take notice. They should realise that safety is a key issue and that in the long run it is better to incorporate safety in the buildings and train personnel accordingly, rather than just focus on churning out buildings just for show.

Call me a cynic, but i doubt whether much will change..

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said You are right, brit: nothing ...

You are right, brit: nothing will change.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

Chairboy's picture

Chairboy said You may very well ask ...

You may very well ask Debbie.

The authorities close down parts of Carrefour at the drop of a hat - thats EASY. Your contribution asks the searching questions that I hope some FORMAL investigation NEEDS to ask.

It is just more than a shame that there are 19 corpses lying in some morgue somewhere to highlight the high levels of incompetence that go unchallenged in this country.

Will open .......................... soon!!!

 

My Sense's picture

My Sense said look at this threads goin on ...

look at this threads goin on here.....no one should come up against individual opinion. PEACE to all QLER's

 

Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said Nothing will change and the ...

Nothing will change and the guilty won't be punished, because they have WASTA!

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Chairboy's picture

Chairboy said What Brit ...

What Brit said.................

Will open .......................... soon!!!

 

info.re.qatar's picture

info.re.qatar said A huge mall with just 5 ...

A huge mall with just 5 entrances for thousands of visitors, now think before you comment about safety!!!

 

jjj75's picture

jjj75 said Except, I complained about ...

Except, I complained about fire doors being chained and padlocked shut in Villagio years ago, I went to the security and asked them to undo the chains as it was a safety hazard, their response was not positive.

My heart goes out to all who lost someone.

It is right to be fearful when the most basic safety precautions are being over looked. Be vigilant, check where all the fire exits are and if they are locked, leave immediately, it is not a safe building to be in.

 

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flor1212 said So Arien, what do you want ...

start killing people or throw them to jail without investigation? In the first place, what negligence are you talking about? Unless it is established, then punish those responsible.

Nothing to justify what happened, but would you like to punish someone because of perception?

Before a sentence is carried out, there will be a hearing or you want sentence first before hearing?

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fubar's picture

fubar said Will this be a repeat of the ...

Will this be a repeat of the "investigation" into how a child managed to drown at Aqua Park?

Paint me surprised when there is a truly independent investigation and people are actually found responsible, and punished accordingly.

 

Xena's picture

Xena said Its called ...

Transparency.... in everything they do....

Media, investigations, correct procedures, sponsorship... if you can name it, it should be on the list for pure and utter transparency.

With transparency comes consequenses... not WASTA!!!

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lawa's picture

lawa said Unrecoverable loss the only ...

Unrecoverable loss the only thing i can say that May Allah give them strength to bear this loss and Rip their kids

 

stealth's picture

stealth said dont the parents also have a ...

dont the parents also have a responsibility? blame everyone but yourself. that seems to be the motto here.

 

Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said How are the parents ...

How are the parents responsible?

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LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said Unfortunately we live in a ...

Unfortunately we live in a world of the tertiary sector, the service sector. We tend to delegate anything we could do ourselves to a service agency. BUT: many service agencies (including governments) cannot protect you. It's better to take your fate in your own hands. The world has come to this, and that's why people will suffer. It's what makes the world go 'round, because it generates money. On whose cost?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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FlyingAce said Will Bashing Each other Bring ...

Will Bashing Each other Bring out something?

What ever happened Yesterday was Unimaginable, but isn't it a Fact that This kind of Incident Could have happened any where around the World...

There should be Accountability without Protecting anyone.

 

Miss Mimi's picture

Miss Mimi said No it could not have happened ...

No it could not have happened any where in the world! Anywhere else in the world the nursery wouldn't have been allowed to open in the first place, neither would the mall. Not without working sprinklers & fire exits!

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britexpat's picture

britexpat said stealth... ...

The parents will be blaming themselves every minute for the rest of their lives - for trusting their children to be looked after in such a place.

However, the blame in this tragedy does not lie with the parents, but those who provided the services and those who passed the environment as safe.

 

fubar's picture

fubar said A fire could certainly break ...

A fire could certainly break out anywhere in the world, yes.

However, in most other parts of the world, alarms would go off.
Sprinklers would work.
Emergency exits would be clear.
Mall security staff would be professional.
Emergency services personnel would be better prepared.
Etc.

So, sorry, but no, I strongly disagree with the notion that this could have happened "anywhere in the world".

 

flor1212's picture

flor1212 said Check or google worst ...

building fires that had happened even a decade ago and see for yourself if all those fires were worse or what!

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flor1212's picture

flor1212 said And Mimi, no fire escapes? ...

no sprinkler system? There is but malfunction and "maybe" locked. So that is what I expect to be included in the report so those responsible be held liable. Investigation before blaming.

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Arien's picture

Arien said Flor.. None will be punished ...

Flor.. None will be punished without an investigation. In this case do you still need evidence to prove the negligence? No.. you just need to find out who is at fault and book them.

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flor1212's picture

flor1212 said Arien, you have two conflicting thoughts there. ...

but your last sentence rhymes with my earlier comment.

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