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Mandilulur said
I must say I am ...I must say I am shocked.
Mandi
Mandilulur said
More complete ...More complete information:
Qatar’s attorney general has ordered the arrest of some five people associated with Monday’s tragedy, including Villaggio mall’s owner and the owner of Gympanzee, QNA reports.
Dr. Ali Bin Al-Marri Fetais also ordered that the mall manager, the assistant manager and the assistant director of security be detained as part of the investigation.
The owner of Gympanzee is Iman Al Kuwari, whose father is Dr. Hamad bin Abdulaziz al-Kuwari, Qatar’s Minister of Culture, Arts and Heritage.
According to Villagio’s website, the chairman is Abdul Aziz Mohammed Al-Rabban.
The mall’s manager is Tzoulios Tzouliou and the assistant manager is Rima Itani.
Doha News had received reports that Tzouliou and Itani have been in custody since Monday, but could not confirm them.
The AG has also ordered the seizure of documentation critical to the investigation, including operating licenses.
Mandi
britexpat said
Great move... Well done ...Great move...
Well done Qatar..
turbohampster said
If they were responsible in ...If they were responsible in any way for the fire then they should be punished appropriately...
But remember they are innocent until proven guilty...
It's good to see the Government taking action and not trying to sweep this under the carpet!
azilana7037 said
Let us see if JUSTICE will prevail ...and I am afraid those in the lower ranks or those in the bottom of the food chain will be taking the blame.
asterix--- said
azi, 100% Agree with you... ...azi, 100% Agree with you & Blood Money would be kept as an Open Option as well, as it has happened before as well in Qatar...
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Bachus said
tfs It's a start. Let's see ...tfs
It's a start. Let's see if they can finish.
mozaismyhero said
Good move but I thought an Al ...Good move but I thought an Al Thani owned the mall so is ultimately responsible. Innocent until proven guilty but there role must be investigated.
FathimaH said
Some good news coming out ...finally! Honestly among all the things I am grieving for is the frightening possibility of those responsible(or should I say irresponsible) getting off the hook. No one should be above the law..the time has come for Qatar to prove this both to their own citizens and to the rest of the world!
"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)
Translator said
The investigation report, or ...The investigation report, or a suitable version of it, should be publicly available when it is completed, and hopefully in multiple languages. A wake-up shock wave should start among people living in this country teaching that safety is not a luxury option. I trust that H.E the Minister of Interior will not let this tragedy pass easily.
firefighter said
OWNER,,, Managers ...WELL DONE
Dem.Roulston said
Let us wait and see. ...Let us wait and see.
mozaismyhero said
In most areas of development ...In most areas of development it is unfair to critize as the country is still in a rapid pace of development, however in the case of an unlawful killing that cannot be the excuse.
timebandit said
I am pleased to see action ...I am pleased to see action taking place
Lady in black said
Alhumdolillah, atleast hope ...Alhumdolillah, atleast hope for the justice now...The people who are responsible for this should be punished accordingly so that these kind of accidents never happen again!!
flor1212 said
Just only for command responsibility, ...a good move indeed. But for the amount of culpability, let's hope there would be a fair assessment.
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spybot said
Well done ...They should also arrest the persons responsible for the training of the fire fighters that died in this tragedy, cause if they were trained correctly we would have not lost those brave souls tht will put their lives at risk for others.
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Miss Mimi said
Lets hope they get more than ...Lets hope they get more than a slap on the wrist. But they also need to look into the Ministry to see how they were able to get away with ignoring the safety laws. Money no doubt changed hands somewhere.
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Singam1609 said
Villagio fire ...Not trying to sweep this under the carpet.
My friend 19 people have been reported dead, 11 out of them were children.
Pappu_Pager said
source ...kindly provide the source
My Sense said
well let us wait and see what ...well let us wait and see what would be the outcome of several arrests and investigations and maybe after sometime this tragic event will be forgotten and only sorry to all the victims..
deedee said
I hope and pray it will not be ..."business as usual" in Qatar whereby those with money and power are let off scot free. Justice for the children!
MarcoNandoz-01 said
I know the Assist Manager ...I know the Assist Manager Rema): She was one of our good clients.
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kkforever young said
A good first step, let's wait ...A good first step, let's wait for the outcome
cherukkan said
Let us wait and see. ...Let us wait and see.
nightwalker77 said
I would like to know how this ...I would like to know how this is the owner of Gympanzee fault. If she had all the approval from the ministries to open, and complied with all the regulations how can she be blamed? Shouldn't then the inspectors and those who approved her business as well be arrested?? She leased/rented her space from Villaggio, so how can she be responsible for the fact that the owners/managers of the mall cut corners and didn't ensure building safety?
Now for the others I completely agree- and hope that the owners of the mall are arrested as they are ultimately in charge of making sure all safety regulations and procedures are followed instead of just profiting from the shortcuts taken.
MarcoNandoz-01 said
This is definitely going to ...This is definitely going to turn out ugly for some folks
No, Not Everyone Has A Moral Right To Feel Offended By Just Any Satire or Criticism...
WATCH " The dancing boys" This short documentary will blow your mind http://www.youtube.c...
Captain_Lost said
Great move ! ...Great move !
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MarcoNandoz-01 said
Well I just learnt the ...Well I just learnt the nursery was not licensed.
No, Not Everyone Has A Moral Right To Feel Offended By Just Any Satire or Criticism...
WATCH " The dancing boys" This short documentary will blow your mind http://www.youtube.c...
nightwalker77 said
well if that's the case MN- ...well if that's the case MN- very bad indeed.
genesis said
Nightwalker ...According to Alraya newspaper today , An official at the social affairs ministry confirms that Gympanzee has no license
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mozaismyhero said
That's shocking Genesis. As ...That's shocking Genesis.
As per the roads, no smoking and other laws in Qatar many see them as just recommendations or suggestions. Hopefully the culture will change.
vivme said
.. ...What about the authority that approved the mall? Are there no periodic checks for safety installations etc?
Mike Shamrock said
A good move? That is just one ...A good move? That is just one side, are they going to arrest the other side or they are just going to use these five as scapegoats?
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lakeland said
If gympanzee did not have a ...If gympanzee did not have a liscence to operate as a nursery, which your link confirms, then justice must be served at the very highest levels including the owner, the mall operator, QCDD and the MOI.
Somehow though I doubt this very much. Shame on all involved in allowing this horendous nightmare to unfold, I hope you you remember each and everyone of the victims every time you look in the mirror and that you carry the burden of guilt with you to your grave
EXLegend said
they should take under ...they should take under custody those authorized to approve the safety standards of the Mall in the first place... as far as i know, you cannot inaugurate a commercial premises until you pass the fire safety standards that is inspected by government officials...
so the appointed investigators must re analyze the situation and reach the root culprits...IMO
Arien said
They should be arresting the ...They should be arresting the ones who issued the licence to these establishments, yes the same morons who torture the small kiosk and groceries while giving their permits.
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drsam said
and who checks if the nursery ...and who checks if the nursery has a license must be questioned: why didn't he/them check for licence before?
if they did, who forbid u from carrying on ur job, and closing it down?
drsam said
every month we have checks ...every month we have checks and control popping out at my workplace. from health controlers, to work ministry (check the work permits ofpersonel), to environement ministry (medical wastes and X-rays radiations) even commerce ministry (checking the price lists)...
did these inpestors visit the nursery? who forbid these inspectors from inspecting the nursery and closing it down?
EXLegend said
Perhaps corruption has ...Perhaps corruption has prevailed and will now be exposed.
Victory_278692 said
Lets watch, all high hands ...Lets watch, all high hands involved in running a commercial Nursery and how justice takes place in Qatar.
Nobody is above the law
drsam said
obviously, the system as a ...obviously, the system as a whole may have had lapsus, and faults (wasta, bribery, ...). and maybe not all the truth will prevail, but if from now on everything changes, it's still a good achievemnet.
Translator said
a law for protecting whistle ...a law for protecting whistle blowers of safety issues is what the MoI needs. Many afraid to speak up and loose their jobs, and many agree to accept half done projects afraid being replaced by others who will accept anything.
Victory_278692 said
Qatar needs to encourage the practise of ...Speaking up and whilstle blowing is must; should start at right levels with authority, i agree with translator.
EXLegend said
i agree with translator... ...i agree with translator... too... that is the original problem.
azilana7037 said
well...Qatar got the world's attention...in a (not good) way ...not really good to lose face on matters such as security and safety issues, especially when lives are involved.
britexpat said
dsram.. ...This shows that there is one rule for the ordinary folk and another for those with connections..
UkEngQatar said
Gympanzee initially was only ...Gympanzee initially was only opened to be a drop off area and play area which later became a full fledged Nursery. They are play areas in Malls all over the Middleast where you leave you kids and go for shopping for a few hours.
But as their Website suggests, Gympanzee was operating as a Nursery catering for kids from 6 months to 4 years. They also offered potting training etc. Even birthday parties were organised at that place.
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shalla said
When it comes to the ...When it comes to the cleanleness of beauty salons, they do check every week... and ladies from the authorities get very angry if they find one brush not on it's place... But when it comes to safety of the nursery - some how the owner manage to operate it for years (!) without license and so - without any safety checks? How it that possible?! The ones who are responsible must be locked for LIFE!
protect me from what i want
flor1212 said
you maybe surprised of other nurseries ...and even big schools operating under probationary license only. Check with SEC!
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flor1212 said
but even if that area was not a nursery, ...it is still a fire trap. So the issue really was to avoid this fire trap areas! It can be a beauty saloon or a barber shop or a specialty boutique, whatever it is, the fact remains that area was a fire trap. It's just too unfortunate that it was occupied by a nursery.
THIS IS LIFE.......Less uncertainties and peaceful life!
LincolnPirate said
Right, the authorities ...Right, the authorities sanctioned a potential fire-trap, knowingly or unknowingly. Let's be fair and say, they don't know what they're doing.
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ghazalz said
Thanks Mandi for the ...Thanks Mandi for the information!
ingeniero said
they should arrest Civil ...they should arrest Civil Defense & Municipality officials also!
Victory_278692 said
This information is published ...This information is published in Peninsula and Gulf News today.
/-a-t-/Ingeni-they are not sole responsible for the mishap; several other factors also got combined.
Mandilulur said
After an exhausting day, Doha ...After an exhausting day, Doha News came back on-line last night at 1 am to break this news.
Mandi
Victory_278692 said
Thanks Mandi, you are a gem ...Thanks Mandi, you are a gem for passing this news before we read newspaper :)
CameronEst said
Now if the nursery had no ...Now if the nursery had no license to operate that kind of explain why the Civil defence had no ideal of its existence, which rises the other question how the *** did that happen, 19 lives families are in agony, can some body explain to them and me how that nursery was opened for such a long time without anybody noticing that….
I remember going there in 2010 and thinking are we there yet “coz the corridors was soo long and when we got there I was already put-off as it seemed like it’s the only way in and out and don’t get me started at how much they charged……
I work at a nursery where it has turned into a nightmare coz we have routine check for every ministry possible “got to a point we think it’s a plot to close the nursery and maybe it is” and to their surprise the owner of the nursery well 49% of it makes sure all is in order (a very nice Indian woman)…. My point been who is going to bother a nursery that no one knows it’s there plus have you checked who her father is “now here is a scenario…..an Indian guy comes claiming he’s from so and so ministry wanting to inspect this or that and what does he get as a reply……… “do you know who the owner is????” he who has no ideal is off-course filled in about the ownership……and since he has a family to feed so all he does is forge whatever needs to be forged and off he goes….
flor1212 said
leasing a space in a commercial ...mall is the work of the mall leasing department. I am not sure if all potential leassee are ask to get Civil Defence clearance and if in the business permit clearance it is specified to get also CD clearance. But the mall as a whole is required before opening to pass CD scrutiny.
Somewhere, somehow, there were lapses in the procedures. That is what to be identified and solutions be set.
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