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John Doe's picture
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...eliminating the sponsorship law and the exit permit system?

Qatar prides in wielding a positive influence on many matters in the region; for instance, offers humanitarian support to the syrian people by being a part of the 'Friends of Syria group, talks about consumer rights domestically, etc.... but what about the basic rights of an expatriate worker to choose a better paying job?

Why is this seemingly trivial matter being overlooked, though there have been frequent propaganda in the media(over the last 6 years, if not more) that the concerned authorities are 'studying' the issue with interest....

what could be the possible reasons hindering the progress?


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Arien's picture

Arien said The interests of the local ...

The interests of the local Qataris/sponsors. simple

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Uday Shetty's picture

Uday Shetty said Qataris shld demand to change ...

Qataris shld demand to change the law and order of U.S now

 

fubar's picture

fubar said Why would they change ...

Why would they change something that would result in nationals suffering and expatriates benefiting?

 

Uday Shetty's picture

Uday Shetty said believe me specially the ones ...

believe me specially the ones who r getting get cat allowance

 

fubar's picture

fubar said And Qatar is probably the ...

And Qatar is probably the only country in the world with such an exit permit/sponsorship system. Are you seriously saying that no where in the world, in any of the almost 200 other countries, you can find a job?

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said Saudi has the same ...

Saudi has the same system.

Sadly, its a case of supply and demand. They know that expatriates will willingly come here , knowing the systems in place..

 

fubar's picture

fubar said Thanks Brit. I had some idea ...

Thanks Brit. I had some idea in my mind that after 2 years in Saudi you don't need and NOC or exit or something.

And as you say, everyone knows that there are exit permits and NOCs required in Qatar, so if you don't like it you probably should have done some research before you got on the plane.

 

eddy30's picture

eddy30 said With the Sponsorship System ...

With the Sponsorship System in place, qataris have a great control over the expatriates. They can control the inflow of population from around the world. They can monitor that their resources are not stolen away from them. Most of all, Sponsorship system gives them the secured feeling that Qatar is for Qataris ONLY and that Qataris are in control over the other nationalities.

When one may say that Qatar is not being fair to the expatriates by not allowing them to choose better jobs, I would say the system is the only way through which Qatar can safe guard its natural resourses having everything under their control!

If only India (or any other country) had this system (or the like), Indians would not have lost everything valuable to the "others" who came in for trade and ended looting the country leaving India with nothing but poverty and calling it freedom!!

 

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britexpat said fubar.. ...

The sad thing is that Saudi is a member of WTO - so these barriers should not be in place ..

 

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britexpat said eddy30.. ...

Hope you're not going to ask for the diamond back :O(

 

John Doe's picture

John Doe said is Qatar a WTO member? they ...

is Qatar a WTO member? they have been hosting talks here...

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eddy30's picture

eddy30 said hahahaha Britexpat, Lost is ...

hahahaha
Britexpat, Lost is lost forever!!
chill... ;)

 

tinkerbell10's picture

tinkerbell10 said Not to worry Brit! One day it ...

Not to worry Brit! One day it will be ours! Again!...:) But then again since we have sent you guys back with ur tails between ur legs i guess we shall allow u to KEEP it...:)

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Molten Metal said System actually is a kind of 'stick to one relationship' ...

This 'relationship' between two parties becomes so 'sticky' over a period of time that it hurts [ like a 'ship' is being broken ] whenever tried to break even though temporarily ... & then it comes to a sticky end.

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britexpat's picture

britexpat said It does look rather fetching ...

It does look rather fetching on the Crown ..

By the way, what is this about "sent" and "tails between the legs"

My history book says that we gave a grateful nation their independence and the chance to grow and mature :O)

 

eddy30's picture

eddy30 said brit, Our History book says, ...

brit, Our History book says, we fought and won. not that you guys just "gave".... ;)
Chance to grow and mature? after wipping clean all the wealth?
Yet We're growing...

 

Runner1409's picture

Runner1409 said They want to prevent what ...

They want to prevent what happened in Dubai... People getting a job there and they got a lot of credits from the banks... Of course they did not pay back and they just left the country...
In addition to that the Qatari Gov wants control over who is in their country ...

from my point of view it's a bit too much... i understand that certain measures need to insure that nobody does what they did in Dubai, however they are taking it to the extreme... with the exit permit required to leave the country some companies are taking advantage and keeping people here whenever they want to resign. I've heard plenty of stories about this...

The main problem is that the Labor Department is kinda useless in dealing with these issues...

 

Uday Shetty's picture

Uday Shetty said they shld become more strict ...

they shld become more strict like Saudi

 

mariammazher's picture

mariammazher said completely agree, eddy ...

completely agree, eddy

 

mozaismyhero's picture

mozaismyhero said Many senior Qatari business ...

Many senior Qatari business men are against this change and are holding up the legislation. They feel they have too much to lose if their slaves, sorry workers, could change company and exit the country (and even get married) without their permission.

 

iexplore's picture

iexplore said hays, this issue seems to be ...

hays, this issue seems to be a ghost - too much are talking about it but no one see it done actually. oh qatar. when will you free the prisons?

 

Uday Shetty's picture

Uday Shetty said ya so why does it bother u ? ...

ya so why does it bother u ? if they aint bothered abt ur country affairs .. u too can mind ur own business and the locals theirs

 

BashaSk's picture

BashaSk said Contracts may replace ‘sponsor’ system... ...

Hope this will answer your questions...

http://www.gulf-time...

 

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Dracula said BashaSk ...

<<...here had been efforts to establish a Labour Committee to protect the interests of the workers, whether Qataris or expatriates. “However, the committee should be formed of Qataris only. {hahahahahahahahahaha}
Expatriates will have the right to vote but will not be nominated as members of the board,” >>

No comments...

http://www.gulf-time...

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Raven1968's picture

Raven1968 said hahahaha loving the idiot ...

hahahaha loving the idiot comments of Sh!tty.....

 

ingeniero's picture

ingeniero said Qatar can't abolish the ...

Qatar can't abolish the sponsorship system, and reason is locals, cuz then they won't be able to control, they won't be able to earn extra money from those 10's of companies registered on their name running/funding by expatriates!
But they can work out on their exit permit system, if they can't abolish it, at least they can make it more easy and favorable for the expatriates


 

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britexpat said BashaSK.. ...

This was discussed before. They don't mention the NOC and I'm sure there will be penalty clauses for breaking the contract.

 

Ruditheexplorer's picture

Ruditheexplorer said Mozaismyhero! the coolest ! ;P ...

Why exit permit?
1. Protect Local sponsor interest? ermmm. They had rich enough..its time to give their 'slave' a life! ;P
2. Prevent loan absconder-no issue, salary paid thro' bank, loan paid with auto debit! Unless unauthorised approval and the company is closed.
3. etc..tell me pls
The main issue is the company took advantage and use the exit permit system to 'kill' the staff softly and put ppl to modern day slavery. Did local sponsors check their 'slaves' !? Why workers want to quit, why employer wanna hold...Peace!

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Ruditheexplorer's picture

Ruditheexplorer said We have alternative..? ...

Insyaallah soon...
Peace!

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Chairboy's picture

Chairboy said Its all about Qatari ...

Its all about Qatari insecurity.....

Will open .......................... soon!!!

 

ingeniero's picture

ingeniero said Multiple Exit permits are not ...

Multiple Exit permits are not for everyone, and we are talking about general and all expatriates!


 

qatarisun's picture

qatarisun said I don't understand why ...

I don't understand why sposorship law should be "eleminated". Sponsorship for the foreign employees is existing in the entire world. Why Qatar has to abolish this law?


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Ruditheexplorer's picture

Ruditheexplorer said Modern Day Slavery if.. ...

Workers are tied! slaved even when the company not comply with Human Resource and Administration standard.
This mistreatment like no pay salary or late salary, working exceeding normal hours w/o pay, no ticket home, deducted salary for visa application or any unreasonable caused, not paying gratuity, no medical leave and many more issue. When worker want to leave, they use exit permit to hold workers.
However, We wont have big issue in MultiNational Company(MNC) and Governmant Linked Company(GLC)..So, we knw who they are. Sponsors out there, please look after the company that under your sponsorship. Thank you. Peace!

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stealth's picture

stealth said when workers want job, they ...

when workers want job, they are ready to forget about all this. But once they are well settled in jobs they tend to cry for all this. You can always opt to come if things meet your needs. No ones forcing you to come here.

 

Uday Shetty's picture

Uday Shetty said the Oil and pet allowance is ...

the Oil and pet allowance is forcing

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said A 'sponsor' is a person who ...

A 'sponsor' is a person who SUPPORTS another person. The problem is, that they don't even know how to spell the word correctly here.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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eddy30 said hahahaha LP.... very ...

hahahaha LP....
very true!!
and most of the times the 'sponsors' dont know who they are sponsoring...
as long as they get their uninterrupted cash flow every month/week, they are not bothered bout anything except to let go of the person he's 'supporting'

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said eddy30.. ...

You re talking about a minority of the total workforce. Most expatriates are employed by recognised companies with proper visas.

 

stealth's picture

stealth said lp, they dont need to. they ...

lp, they dont need to. they can spell it better in their local language which majority of the expatriates cant do.

 

londonlad's picture

londonlad said sorry to burst your bubble ...

sorry to burst your bubble mate. I think majority are under tom/dick/harry companies and minority are with big names. Also, depending on what passport you have, even the big names have second class worker treatment for people with non-western passports.

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said I stand corrected .. ...

I stand corrected ..

 

tinkerbell10's picture

tinkerbell10 said Londonlad - spot on! ...

Londonlad - spot on!

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Doha-Infidel's picture

Doha-Infidel said problem is ...

Qatar cannot function without the expatriates...

Could you imagine a Qatari driving a taxi???
How about operating a Crane??

Could you imagine what this place would look like...

Maximum control over the workforce is the only option for this place..

They will pay off FIFA and all will be ok..

"Better to be thought a fool than open your mouth and remove all doubt"

 

ingeniero's picture

ingeniero said Doha-infidel, they are doing ...

Doha-infidel, they are doing it in KSA, Saudians are doing it, even they became beggars in the country with 25% oil of the world!
sooner or later Qatari will do it, Just matter of time!
Karma is a b!t!ch,
I really want to see their dead bodies waiting for payments in cold storage!


 

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