'British jobs for British workers'

in the current global economic climate you would think companies and countries would look out for their own.

Crazy stuff
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Brazilian Jujitsu in Qatar
http://iloveqatar.ne...

lol...

I bet the expatriates in the UK are bashing this right now. do they have a UKliving website?

Main topics:

• Britishization.
• How wrong it feels to drive on the wrong side of the road.
• Racism.
• How the British drive in their mini coopers.
• Immigration laws.
• ...

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a [Let's not get blocked by the Telco].

MR PAUL ...I m sure the guys on the picket lines...underestimate the "value" of an UK Passport in places like the Middle East;).

britexpat...yep...the flow of labour..was one of the Plus points...mentioned during the creation of EU...

We were in London for 7 days during summer 2008. I was commenting to my husband that I dont feel like in the UK. From waiter/waitress, shopkeepers, restaurant owner, bus driver all are foreigner.

The only english cross path with us was the tour guide on the open decker bus trip.

I posted on this issue yesterday morning.
http://www.qatarlivi...

Now the UK can be added to this list.

Governments across Europe tremble as angry people take to the streets

* Ian Traynor, Europe editor
* The Guardian, Saturday 31 January 2009
* Article history

France paralysed by a wave of strike action, the boulevards of Paris resembling a debris-strewn battlefield. The Hungarian currency sinks to its lowest level ever against the euro, as the unemployment figure rises. Greek farmers block the road into Bulgaria in protest at low prices for their produce. New figures from the biggest bank in the Baltic show that the three post-Soviet states there face the biggest recessions in Europe.

It's a snapshot of a single day – yesterday – in a Europe sinking into the bleakest of times. But while the outlook may be dark in the big wealthy democracies of western Europe, it is in the young, poor, vulnerable states of central and eastern Europe that the trauma of crash, slump and meltdown looks graver.

Exactly 20 years ago, in serial revolutionary rejoicing, they ditched communism to put their faith in a capitalism now in crisis and by which they feel betrayed. The result has been the biggest protests across the former communist bloc since the days of people power.

Europe's time of troubles is gathering depth and scale. Governments are trembling. Revolt is in the air.
Athens

Alexandros Grigoropoulos, a 15-year-old middle-class boy going to a party in a rough neighbourhood on a December Saturday, was the first fatality of Europe's season of strife. Shot dead by a policeman, the boy's killing lit a bonfire of unrest in the city unmatched since the 1970s.

There are many wellsprings of the serial protests rolling across Europe. In Athens, it was students and young people who suddenly mobilised to turn parts of the city into no-go areas. They were sick of the lack of jobs and prospects, the failings of the education system and seized with pessimism over their future.

This week it was the farmers' turn, rolling their tractors out to block the motorways, main road and border crossings across the Balkans to try to obtain better procurement prices for their produce.
Riga

The old Baltic trading city had seen nothing like it since the happy days of kicking out the Russians and overthrowing communism two decades ago. More than 10,000 people converged on the 13th-century cathedral to show the Latvian government what they thought of its efforts at containing the economic crisis. The peaceful protest morphed into a late-night rampage as a minority headed for the parliament, battled with riot police and trashed parts of the old city. The following day there were similar scenes in Vilnius, the Lithuanian capital next door.

After Iceland, Latvia looks like the most vulnerable country to be hammered by the financial and economic crisis. The EU and IMF have already mounted a €7.5bn (£6.6bn) rescue plan but the outlook is the worst in Europe.

The biggest bank in the Baltic, Swedbank of Sweden, yesterday predicted a slump this year in Latvia of a whopping 10%, more than double the previous projections. It added that the economy of Estonia would shrink by 7% and of Lithuania by 4.5%.

The Latvian central bank's governor went on national television this week to pronounce the economy "clinically dead. We have only three or four minutes to resuscitate it".
Paris

Burned-out cars, masked youths, smashed shop windows, and more than a million striking workers. The scenes from France are familiar, but not so familiar to President Nicolas Sarkozy, confronting the first big wave of industrial unrest of his time in the Elysée Palace.

Sarkozy has spent most of his time in office trying to fix the world's problems, with less attention devoted to the home front. From Gaza to Georgia, Russia to Washington, Sarkozy has been a man in a hurry to mediate in trouble spots and grab the credit for peacemaking.

France, meanwhile, is moving into recession and unemployment is going up. The latest jobless figures were to have been released yesterday, but were held back, apparently for fear of inflaming the protests.
Budapest

A balance of payments crisis last autumn, heavy indebtedness and a disastrous budget made Hungary the first European candidate for an international rescue. The $26bn (£18bn) IMF-led bail-out shows scant sign of working. Industrial output is at its lowest for 16 years, the national currency - the forint - sank to a record low against the euro yesterday and the government also announced another round of spending cuts yesterday.

So far the streets have been relatively quiet. The Hungarian misery highlights a key difference between eastern and western Europe. While the UK, Germany, France and others plough hundreds of billions into public spending, tax cuts, bank bailouts and guarantees to industry, the east Europeans (plus Iceland and Ireland) are broke, ordering budget cuts, tax rises, and pleading for international help to shore up their economies.

The austerity and the soaring costs of repaying bank loans and mortgages taken out in hard foreign currencies (euro, yen and dollar) are fuelling the misery.
Kiev

The east European upheavals of 1989 hit Ukraine late, maturing into the Orange Revolution on the streets of Kiev only five years ago. The fresh start promised by President Viktor Yushchenko has, though, dissolved into messy, corrupt, and brutal political infighting, with the economy, growing strongly a few years ago, going into freefall.

Three weeks of gas wars with Russia this month ended in defeat and will cost Ukraine dearly. The national currency, at less than half the value of six months ago, is akin to the fate of Iceland's wrecked krona. Ukrainians have been buying dollars by the billion. In November the IMF waded in with the first payments in a $16bn rescue package.

The vicious power struggles between Yushchenko and the prime minister, Yuliya Tymoshenko, are consuming the ruling elite's energy, paralysing government and leaving the economy dysfunctional. Russia is doing its best to keep things that way.
Reykjavik

Proud of its status as one of the world's most developed, most productive and most equal societies, Iceland is in the throes of what is, by its staid standards, a revolution.

Riot police in Reykjavik, the coolest of capitals. Building bonfires in front of the world's oldest parliament. The yoghurt flying at the free market men who have run the country for decades and brought it to its knees.

An openly gay prime minister takes over today as head of a caretaker government. The neocon right has been ditched. The hard left Greens are, at least for the moment, the most popular party in the small Arctic state with a population the size of Bradford.

The IMF's bailout teams have moved in with $11bn. The national currency, the krona, appears to be finished. Iceland is a test case of how one of the most successful societies on the globe suddenly failed.

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Brazilian Jujitsu in Qatar
http://iloveqatar.ne...

We also need to know that the UK government approve laws in the past, allowing migration workers from the UE area to come inside Uk because there was a big shortage of man power, this workers where very welcome and give strong input in UK Economy, however World Crises is knocking everybody door, and panic is starting to take this locals, I think the major problem is illegal manpower....

Mano Negra.....clandestina

Check mate.....

If I remember correctly, the work was given to a sub-contractor that Total use regularly and who have the equipment and specially skilled manpower teams to undertake the work (I think Spanish and Maltese). I don't think that any jobs are actually being lost but will just never become available in the first place. There is an agreement in place that British workers will be used wherever possible.
I don't recollect anyone complaining when there was a shortage of plumbers and Polish tradesmen were readily welcomed.
I would agree that times have changed since then but the UK is part of the EU and all that it entails.

One day Qataries will work any job and guys when you want to talk something about Qatar or Dubai dont keep saying GCC ...they are part of GCC but there other GCC who their people are working in every sector. so if you have been to UAE and now you are in Qatar dont just jump and say all middle east or all GCC...theres a signature of one of QL memeber i do like it says U will never know if u dont go. (dont know if i got it right)

DONT LET YESTERDAYS DISAPOINTMENTS OVERSHADOW 2MOROWS DREAMS!

I think in the current economic climate, immigrants will be picked out and blamed for the job losses even though the problem lies elsewhere.

The wild cat strikes are not against illegal immigrants but against foreign companies using skilled workers from their own countries (e.g. in this case IREM, using Italian skilled labour). Don't think there are many illegal immigrants working in the refineries and power plants across the UK, I am sure the authorities would have spotted them hiding under lorries or climbing over the site fance. But then I could be wrong.:)

"Why foreign worker row will erupt into a headache for Gord

By TREVOR KAVANAGH

Published: Today

THE only surprise in the row over Grimsby’s foreign workers is that it took so long to erupt.

When jobs are scarce, why should skilled Brits stand idle while hundreds of Italians are imported.

For years we have been told what we can and cannot do by unaccountable Brussels directives.

Now in hard times, we are no longer prepared to put up with the lunatic attempt to turn the EU into an artificial nation state.

Europe’s overweening power, and the Government’s refusal to act, are turning migrant labour into a toxic new factor in this slump.

Gordon Brown casually handed strikers their slogan when he promised “British jobs for British workers”.

“Deputy PM” Peter Mandelson fears unemployment — here and in Europe — could unravel the EU.

Yet Mandy fuelled the blaze by telling strikers if they don’t like Italians taking our jobs, they should go to Italy and take theirs!

He should understand that this clash over foreign workers is just the first puff of smoke from the volcano.

This small island was never going to cope long-term with three million uninvited, sometimes unwelcome and often illegal, guests in seven short years.

Nor, as times get tougher, will we quietly accept the Government’s prediction of ten million more.

The strikes at oil, gas and chemical plants are only the start.

There are plenty more foreign-only deals waiting to explode, not least the £12billion Olympics where thousands of non-UK workers are being hired.

Brits of all backgrounds, including established migrants, have been simmering over immigration for a decade.

They were treated with contempt as Labour recklessly opened the door to countless newcomers.

Yes, the vast majority are decent, law-abiding workers, grateful for our hospitality.

But there is an ugly side to immigration we are not supposed to talk about...

Freeloading on the welfare state, jumping housing queues and mopping up health and welfare provision for which they have paid no tax.

Immigrants feature disproportionately in criminal violence.

Organised gangs from Africa, Albania and Asia run ruthless drug and vice rings. And ministers do absolutely nothing about it.

Labour champions equality but ignores its own natural supporters — hard-working tradesmen priced out by EU rivals.

Labour vigilantly imposes Health & Safety fascism yet turns a blind eye to migrants exploited as slave labour.

Unions hail the minimum wage as their greatest triumph while workers compete with foreign rivals who work all hours for what they see as a king’s ransom.

Labour decided long ago that all immigration is good.

If it raises tax revenue, the more the merrier.

All minorities, even those with no link to this country, take priority over the established population.

Inner cities are colonised by entire communities who live, pray, dress and speak as if they still lived in tribal villages.

Shockingly, there are 300 schools where English is not the first language.

Labour is obsessed with its diversity agenda, yet it sits mute as women in ghettos are kept ignorant, forced into marriage or, in some cases, murdered for refusing.

Any attempt to raise matters like this is denounced as “racism”.

Labour effectively silenced Tories with this ugly smear. Now they are being forced on the back foot because the same charges are being levelled from their own side.

Trevor Phillips, black chairman of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, has spoken bravely about his party’s mistakes on race.

Threat

Past and present immigration ministers have talked about action, while at the same time waving in 150,000 workers a year.

Dagenham MP Jon Cruddas warns Labour MPs risk a dangerous threat from an increasingly strident BNP.

But it is Birkenhead rebel Frank Field who speaks up for the whole country.

“Stakes could not be higher,” he warns. “The men and women on these picket lines are not just fighting for their jobs, they are asserting their national identity.

“Anger should be directed at this Government.”

Couldn’t put it better myself."

.............................I totally agree.

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a [Let's not get blocked by the Telco].

http://www.thesun.co...

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I think you have me confused with someone who gives a [Let's not get blocked by the Telco].

Well Said Novi,

In response to you comments I can not agree more. But the question why are their more Foreign workers in the UK now. The simple answer is that we Brits like the Qatris (as an example) do not like to the dirty or low paid jobs. Brits are better off on the dole than working on a low wage, so thats where the foreign workers come in.

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HE WHO DARES WINS

I don't normally read 'The Sun', but I have to agree with some of the points made in this article (please see my earlier post in this thread).

This situation was entirely foreseeable to anyone in touch with reality. It's time to get rid of the political parasites who currently govern the UK, and bring in some real leaders who really care about the needs of native UK citizens.

Just look at the current state of the UK, our culture has been destroyed and the 'rights' of fresh immigrants appear to take precedence over the rights of native UK nationals.

It could be that things are going to change very soon.

"It was a woman who drove me to drink, and I never had the courtesy to thank her for it." W. C. Fields.

bleu your right, we Brits see anyone who is not from the Isles as a Foreigner especially the lot from the continent..lol

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HE WHO DARES WINS

It's easy to say the UK should take on Australian tactics for immigration, but that said the newly elected Labor government is planning to increase immigration too.

It's a shame that the UK has to have the EU breathing down it's neck. Torries for the win? Would they be able to reverse the current problem?

If all countries start to act like the brits, I want to know where you'll all go...

Check mate.....

Um Gloopy they do sink the ships yes, but only after taking those that were on it into custody. Australian coast guard isn't in the habbit of murdering people.

We don't let them because people should have some respect for our laws. They're our waters, Indonesia has it's own. Our government is giving theirs' millions of dollars every year to take on terrorism, so you'd think their government could at least help their own people.

if i may add a few points to this as i have followed this for a while and on the news.

1. it is not the fault of EU policies. the EU has labour flow that permits brits throughout the EU. It is the companies that abuse the laws. what would have helped the UK would be quotas when the the new countries joined in order to control the flow. but end results, vast number of poles and certain number of fake polish passports.
2. the unions have rightly pointed out that the issue is the continiuing practice in the industry to deliberatly exclude the brits from even applying. the unions have claimed that they have heard the words we will refuse to accept any brits for jobs.
3. the union has no issue with EU workers since they insist these workers must also get the same wage as the brits. the question which few people seem to ask is " why does it not cost more to relocate and house these EU workers with the same wages, rather than employ locals"
answer: because they are not getting the wage that was negoiated for the industry.they want the level playing field
4. the issue with mr bean promising jobs for brits is neither here nor there.its about the abuse of the imimigration system for many years under both labour and conservative governments by companies looking use cheap labour in return for political donations.
.any comparison with qatarization with brits standing up for themselves is blinkered thinking. one is demanding jobs regardless of their skill level which they don't have as told by the most successful businesman in qatar 2 years ago. the other is saying we are suitable and economically viable- so why not.its a pity we could not apply the same process to senior management of many companies in UK as they have made a complete mess of it lately and are poor performers for the salaries they demand.
regards

That's what they get for conquiring so many countries in the past