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Well, I have come across so many discussions about Salaries and the most common question : Is is enough to live ? Well I would just expose my case as an exeptional case. After all it all depends on how you will live , and if you are alone or married. Well, I personally get 1460 Qs as a basic salary with no possibility to transfer sponsorship. I do get extra bonus> eventually my salary can gets up to 2500 Qs not more. However,I have an accomodation , a more or less big appartment : 2 bedrooms , a hall, one bathroom and one kitchen,and the company gave me a car. I am actually living decently,but saving is not that great. Anyway, I do make some modest saving like all other people, but I just stopped buying anything but food. I do sometimes get some non-expensive items : Clothes , books, Glasses... but I just cannot exceed a budget of 300 Qs . I just wonder sometimes how I can live on such a low salary, but I guess accomodation ( Including free electrecity and water) and Transportation constitute a heavy burden taken out of my shoulder . see how things are relative . Amazing , isn't it ?
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Ram said
Frog ...I'm well educated graduated of computer science, Microsoft certified as application developer .. and my total salary is 3400 Q.R. working in administrative job in a well known BIG country (the biggest cargo company)
Q.R. 1904 Basic Salary
Q.R. 1200 Accomdation
Q.R. 300 Transportation
Still can live well .. yeah there is no saving but i'm living ..
it doesn't matter how much u earn .. the most important is to adapt ur self to the situation .. it's not a shame to buy cheaper clothes, book or stuff .. it's all about satisfaction.
The funny thing is i'm making a lot of money more than my salary from the Guitar lessons... I guess i even don't need that job in the company i just need their sponsorship ;)
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ksarat16 said
Ram & Frog ...Proud of u guys...its all bout living...
Its jus this one shot at life...to live...so why not live in whichever conditions we r in...
but still a couple of good friends...and i m sure life will go on...
So how r the both of u doing today...
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aruni said
I totally agree with what ...I totally agree with what both of u saying, You know some people rejected their offers because of others advices.....the thing here is how you think, ur attitude....and your mission in life......
i m really proud of u......
IOU said
I must agree with you Frog, ...I must agree with you Frog, having a free accommodation and free transportation will absolutely lessen the burden of underpaid ex-pats!
Also, We must not forget to "live not beyond our means!"
Cheers!
*** I don't like to commit myself about heaven and hell - you see, I have friends in both places. M. Twain***
Frog__ said
Ram , I am making some saving ...Belive it or not Man, I am making some saving. And I am sending almost all my salary to my family there , just because I cannot save money here if I have it in my pocket. LOL Well as you may notice , I am feeling ok and I am taking the whole of it from a funny side. I am a very simple person, I just need a place to live, a means of transport and one good meal a day. I do eat as I like, but what I didn't say is that I am working in a Food distribution Company. Guess where I do my shopping ?
Crazy Frog
Ram said
Ksarat & aruni ...Ksarat: thanks a lot for ur comment .. I'm doing gr8 and so happy today without a reason but i feel that i'm happy .. every day for me is a new hope and another chance ..
Aruni: I hate to give my ears for someone to sh!t in .. I prefer to take my decissions .. although it's not that easy .. sometimes i feel down and frustrated .. asking my self if i'm not saving here and i'm just living and in my country the same ..so what the heck i'm doing here?? but then after a while i calm down and tell myself there must be a chance in its time .. just wait and go for it ..
And i'm proud of myself that under these conditions and stress i'm still living and having fun .. ;)
this topic remind me with that song "Sad But True" by Metallica .. let me go n listen to it .. :)
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Ram said
Frog ...Please tell me how can u save .. u gonna teach me that .. cuz i know that even if i'm earning 100,000 per month i won't be saving ...
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Frog__ said
LOL well..... that will cost you 50 Qs ...Well as you are a musician, I will give you advice for free. :D Well the thing is that I just refuse to buy anything apart from the very very necessary. I am sorry to say that, but I am here to save money because I have some important objectives for a near future. I need to save and I force myself to do it. I never go out to coffees or cinemas . And I just avoid the temptation of shopping. Life is hard but it's ok once you have a goal to reach.
Crazy Frog
r7 said
This is one thing i have'nt ...This is one thing i have'nt ever been able to do and tht is save some of my salary... I just end up blowing it all up on something or the other all the time ....
Ram said
Frog ...Ok i agree with u that i will not buy unnecessarily stuff but i can't just live my life like that without out going .. coffees and cinemas .. how could i live .. but that's what i'm trying to do ..
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qatarisun said
yes, you can live ..."very simple" life, and "just refuse to buy anything apart from the very very necessary"... but the question is FOR HOW LONG? For how long you can apart yourself from whole world? Don't you go to the cinema? Don't you invite your friends for the dinner sometimes (and pay for them!)? Don't your friends have birthday parties, and you have to buy a gift for them? Don't you need to pay for some repairs, for some other services once in a while? Don't you want to travel somewhere at least once a year beside your vacation time, just to escape from Doha for two-three days?..
Yes, you can live even having only QR 1000 a month (just grocery and that's it).. but how many months you will be able to handle this kind of life? Or let me ask you is that a life at all?
In your case it's at least understandable: you have your goal and you saving money for some particular reason. And I hope it won't last a long time. Otherwise.. I am confused, how it is possible to manage this kind of "life" whatsoever.
Ram said
Qatarisun ...Not every one can afford a life like u described .. although we wanted to live it like that but what to do . it's our fate .. can u change it .. if u can't then change ur attitude .. adapt to it .. for how long ?? till u have a better life .. else u don't have any choices .. have u choose to be rich .. if so plz inform me cuz i wanna make the same choice .. if not .. then u got the answer .. we didn't choose to earn this amount of money .. but we can still choose how to live our life with this amount of money ..
My Real friend will not qualify me for what i have in my wallet but for what i have in my mind .. so if there is a birthday and i get a simple not costly gift he will understand that it's my life and still i can get him a gift .. there is a phrase for those who r donating money says "a 1 Riyal from a man who is having only 10 riyal is much bigger than 1000 riyal from a man who is having million riyal"
Hope u get my point ..
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coolquietman said
ram--well said! do it right ...ram--well said!
do it right - the first time!
nib said
i think u guys are qualified ...i think u guys are qualified so just be patient and look for the chances to get better job or go better country where everybody is 'almost' equal.
even i am earning comparably better i am not happy with my life here. actually i have no life bec of working conditions. i cud spend my money to have more fun here but than it wud be so useless spending years here but earning nothing. so i am also in search of better options...
t_coffee_or_me said
no loans ...The basic answer is live up to your means .... I mean don’t be indebted to any one
And make the best use of your resources
If you can't change your fate, change your attitude.
Alexa said
The problem is, how ever ...The problem is, how ever much you have , you will always want more....
nib said
yea true. i think everybody ...yea true. i think everybody here is earning more than his/her home country..
qatarisun said
nib, not at all ...not everyone is here just because of money.. there are other reasons why people might get in here...
Alexa, i agree, that no matter how much you have you will always want to have more...this desire actually is moving whole world on .. otherwise we would still live in the stone age...
nib said
yah there are students too, ...yah there are students too, or some may have other reasons. but generally for money and yea generally people can earn/save more money here than their country.
sentibhim said
Nib ...Nid you are true,But there are lots of people are here,who can not pay their loan while coming in doha.
"Drink Beer Save Water"
Happy Happy said
Frog and Ram...I am so proud you ...I am really proud of you. It might not mean anything to you for me to compliment you. But you made me say Alhamdul'Allah for what I have, after I read your post.
Frog, I read you do translation. May I ask what kind of translation and what languages you master?
Most translators make a lot of money because they earn from freelancing. Thought about working from home after your official working hours?
Salam
Frog__ said
Yes I do ...You know what? I do lots of the things you listed, I do pay for my friends when we're out. I do never calculate what I do have in pocket, but there's something I usually do. As soon as I get my salary, I head directly to Western Union and Send most of it to My country so that I can keep those bank notes out of reach.... lol. Yes, I do. Well I know I miss lots of things that I used more or less to do when I was away from Doha, but I just thing it's worth the sacrifice. I don't really feel I am forcing myself into saving, I just enjoy doing it cause it just gives a sense to my stay here in Qatar. Don't think a minute that I am a mean person, because I am not. I do so many things for God's sake, I do give part of my money to those Who needs help, and I send some to mumbers of my family. They do not really neeed my help, but they just feel satisfied with what their son has become, and they appreciate what such gifts represent emotionally. I hope I can keep on doing that, and I hope I can realise my dreams . The Price is more or less high but as I said It's worth it.
Crazy Frog
Frog__ said
I gave it a try before ...Well happy happy I really tried to look for such opportunities to increase my income. Actually....well I can tell you even if this is a public forum, that I was offered many jobs here among which the position of translator ( English/ Arabic/ French) with the Emirit Guard here in Doha. One of the most prestegious department of the Qatari Military. However, when it comes to '' sponsorship transfer'' or what is also called release everything becomes so difficult. anyway, I tried to do freelance translation, but nothing really interesting came out. I put ads on several magazines and newspapers, just to receive invitation for dates rather than appointements for interviews...lol. I do different types of translation ( scientific, legal, administrative...etc) I....well I think it's enough talking about me :D sorry people I tried to sell my C.V :D Anyway thanks for you all you really made me feel better...
Crazy Frog
novita77 said
R7 ..."This is one thing i have'nt ever been able to do and tht is save some of my salary... I just end up blowing it all up on something or the other all the time ...."
----> stop changing your mobile every week ... :P
Frog__ said
It's never too late to learn :D ...Some people do it willingly some others just have to.... you seem to belong to none of the two groups. The importance is to enjoy life :)
Crazy Frog
Happy Happy said
Frog..I was not trying to make you feel better ...I do not feel sympathy or pity towards you. I am PROUD of you. What you have is a gift and treasure. It is a blessing.
But you also need to work harder to do freelancing. You can make some real good money per page or by word count.
I have an idea, do a search on QL on "translator". You will find a couple here. I got an offer on QL to do freelance translation. But I have no time for that.
Also, HSBC needed translators, with good salary. Their interview and test are easy. You just need to refresh your Contract related terminology to pass it easily.
Try it, you've got nothing to lose..:)
Salam
Frog__ said
HSBC ...What does it stand for ? HSBC = Human Science Bachelor Course ? Heroes Sent Before Christ ? Hello Searchers beyond Certainty ? lol .... jocking..... I just don't know what HSBC stand for , but I really appreciate your help. Millions of Thanks
Crazy Frog
Happy Happy said
Frog, Sorry, HSBC Bank Located on Cornich ...Frog, because of the sponsorship issues, the best thing ever is freelancing, while you're sitting home relaxed, or after you regular working hours, you can do free translations. You will be your own boss.
To search on Ql for " translator", go to your profile, change "translation" to "translator" and do not link all your Interests together, write them separately under each other, then after you "Save" go back to your Profile again and click on "translator". The search results will give you a long list of users who are translators.
If you need any more assistance, let me know please.
Salam
Frog__ said
Thanks ...Thank you so much, I will give it a try :)
Crazy Frog
Happy Happy said
Frog, Translation is Talent, Art and Technique ...So, use those skills to the best of your ability..:)
Best of Luck and never give up...:)) (no preaching intended)
Salam
FDM said
Chapeau guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 ...Salam, Hi, Salut, Hola, Ciao
For the first time on QL I read about somebody earning less than 21000 RQ
I'm so thankful to see that people with modest salary can live/survive in Doha.
I'm convinced that I made a bad choice when I left Muscat for Doha; I was living in a villa in a compound, taking coffee with friends twice a day in Inter, Hayatt or Shangri-la..... once the proposition of the transfert to Doha received I thought it would be better (a more developped country......) but when I landed and faced the real life....It was too late to go back
before reading your comments I was very disappointed :(rent very very very very expensive, cost of living very very very high and the water very very very HOT :-) But now, I would like to thank you, first for your frankness and second for sharing with us your tips....
P.S. life in Oman is less expensive and the rates in hotels are not the same (comparison btw Ramada Oman and Doha, Inter and Hayatt Oman and Doha)
Salam, Hi, Salut, Hola, Ciao
Happy Happy said
FDM...I am thankful too ...Just like you have mentioned above, I am thankful too, to both Frog and Ram.
Good examples of boldness, confidence and strength, they really made me ashamed of myself!!
Salam
Ram said
Happy Happy ...Actually thanks goes to Frog .. if he didn't make that post may be i wouldn't have mentioned that .. although i mentioned it to my friends .. but never thought about it in public ..
Happy Happy: I don't like the phrase which says "Eny la Akzeb walkeny atgamal" (translation would be appreciated)
The real shame is to be ashamed of what have god gave us .. Thank God i'm still better than a lot of people ..
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Happy Happy said
Ram....Your Musical Philosophy ...I promised to listen to your recordings. I did. Not only your guitar produces music, I believe it is your heart that guides your fingers to brush the strings to shape and color your genuine feelings.
Your philosophy mentioned in your message above is music too.
Wallahi el fanoos beta3ak lazem yekoon special..:))I haven't forgotten..:))
Salam
Ramadan Karim
Ram said
Happy Happy ...i'm blushing :)
Thanks for ur sweet words and ur compliment .. i got a lot but not having much time to record them ..
but soon i will do ..
Thanks again
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Frog__ said
Salam All ...Well, I have good new for you : Today I received my first call from a QL member. That was a girl asking if I could translate some documents for her. I was surprised, but really pleased. In fact, I am not really looking for money, or let 's say I am not interested only in making money. I also enjoy doing something relevant to my diplomas and degrees. I believe I am good at translation and My Arabic has always been excellent. Many Thanks to Ram for his support and to happy happy for her valuable advice and tips. I will keep you informed of any news about that offer. Salam
Crazy Frog
Ram said
Frog ...I'm so happy for u .. hope u receive a lot of phone calls
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Frog__ said
Yeah ...Just one by now....but I hope I will have other opportunities . :))
Crazy Frog
armhie said
nice to hear good attitutes now in QL ...I really admire FROG and RAM boldness and hoping that this forum can enlighten more people.
FROG, hapiness in life is not SPENDING your money for your goodselves but it is indeed in sharing with needy specially to your LOVED ONES (eventhough they might not need it) but the feelings is GREAT that you're giving hapiness to your family specially to your parents.
As for Asians, I know this absolute reality extending their finances with their families; some are forced too but mostly it is like blood running to our veins... that no matter how far we are, we always cared for our families.
""Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.-by Franklin D. Roosevelt""
armhie said
sorry it is ATTITUDE not attitutes... ...as per my previous comment, it is attitude
""Happiness lies in the joy of achievement and the thrill of creative effort.-by Franklin D. Roosevelt""
Frog__ said
Armhie don't worry ...First Don't worry , you can make as many mistakes as you can :D Second, I just like the way you talked about your family. I have some Asians people here, and I see clearly how many sacrifices they make to meet their family needs. Once again thank you for all. Hope you enjoy life with your family in Qatar.
Crazy Frog