Tipping Waiting Staff

Indians i say....:O)

Well, its true..those poor chaps had to clean all the mess and all they get is a 'smile' or sometimes nothing...:(

you racist basherd :-(

Coltey, who do u think go to Bombay phatpatti then ? :)

I have seen people from all over coming to BC... even Chinese and asking for bada pav :-))

I agree with you. Sadly people don't appreciate the work they do.

Lols Khanan

From whom and where did you hear that " it's not allowed"?

you're allowed to wipe your hands on Rizks' lungi for bad service :-(

britey u pay peanuts you get roasted nuts...:)

What about tipping in Ramada

Hanging garden

Totaly agree with you colt..:)
Wonder why some peolpe are so stingy.. if they can eat for 100 riyals cant they spend 10 riyals more for those waiters??

Brit..let the waiter buy any of these with that 10 riyals..:)

A beggar is not allowed to beg for money in QATAR (because it is illegal) but giving money to a waiter is allowed. What is the difference. Why can beggars not be legal then.

hard to believe that you cannot differentiate b/w begging and giving tips :(

Thank you for clearing my DOUBT. That is why i mentioned DOUBT. Hence clarified.

You are absolutely right. That is why i heard and not sure it is not allowed here. Maybe iam wrong too.

I will definitely tip at Chowpatti or similar. where i have issues is in bigger restaurants where they automatically include a service charge AND expect a tip :O(

Do the Arabs give a damn care for the Asians here. the same who build the towers, constructed the roads, bridges etc.

/-a-t-/tinkerbell10

If your goal is to expose those who mistreat their workers and hold off their wages etc. then the first step you should do is to STOP TIPPING

If you think about it, tipping covers up for the employers short comings....If the eomployer is not being fair to his employees the solution is to punish him by law, not to tip the employee to make up the difference, and let the employer keep all that extra cash?

/-a-t-/Shaktimaan

I do, and Im a local through and through....don't generalize like that amigo.

Super Cool - ur solution does sound logical but do u really think that by stippoing the tip we can change the way the employers treat their staff?

Of the expatriates here and the cases that are in Labor Court how many do u think actually favors the expat? Its a very LOW percentage. And thats the reality of whats happeneing.

Yes as u say it DOES cover the shortcomings of the employer so who monitors HIM??? The ones who are supposed to monitor them KNOW this is happening! And dont tell me the govt does not know the condition of the workers here. And yet such labor camps and poor wages and over worked staff are on the rise! So now tell me - where is the solution? Who will ENFORCE it?

Iam not sure but the tips the waiter(s) get is taken by the management. is this true.

Plus as u say I do know locals here who are very nice to their staff. BUT there are also so called MANAGERS they employ who treat the workers like cattle. Many a sponsor or local Owner here has no idea what the guy who is supposed to take care of the worker actually does!

I know of a place where the Mandoob told the staff wrokfers that they shud pay him 500 riyals exra if they wanted him to process their papers quickly!!! And inspite of being exposed to the sponsor the Sponsor did NOTHING. Today that so called MANDOOB had been given higher wages and a PROMOTION!

And trust me there are more and more people like him and LESS good ones.

beggars are illegal here. But you being local do you give them alms.

Shakti - that happens in resto;s like the ones Colt mentioned above. See his posts. We are talking of places like Bombay Chowpatty and small juice stalls where the patrons HONK and these poor fellows come out running to serve.

/-a-t-/Colt45

I was raised in the states, the minimum wage was $2.30 and most waiters make exactly that because the cheap employer tries to alleviate his responsibility towards his employees by "assuming" they will get tips, which is all a bunch of BS if you ask me. The fault falls with the employer in this case and not the customer because IF the employer gave a damn about employees service quality he could have mandated "internal tips"....as in, you make $2.30/hour + tips which the EMPLOYER pays you based on the quality of the job done.

What happens instead is that CHEAP employers blame the customer and call him cheap for them underpaying their employees!!???

/-a-t-/Shaktimaan

I pay alms to the poor BUT not to beggers....Most of us can tell when someone is not well off and is in need, I go to those and I offer assistance, whether monetarily or with supplies and the difference is that I pay them out of the blue and for no reason, not in return to services rendered....it's called a SELFLESS GOOD DEED....you do good FOR NO REASON except to help your fellow man....you know what I do sometimes??? I pay waiters who are not servicing my table!!! I am not paying them for services rendered + tip, I'm just helping the needy, my brotherman....I remember reading in Sociology that by over paying someone in need you are keeping them as dependants instead of helping the poor.

Beggers on the other hand let me tell you this...now a days in Doha it's A LOT easier and A LOT more rewarding and A LOT less humiliating to go to a charity and receive some aid than to beg on the hot streets of Doha....which makes it almost obvious that the begger doesn't want to go through the proper channels for a reason....a reason I don't care to know...so I stay away. I was approached at a gas station a few years back by a begger who asked for money to go buy medicine....I told him get in I'll buy it for you and take you home and he refused, I said if you need anything else I'll buy you food and medicine and take you home and he refused and walked away...less that 3 minutes later a cop came to the station and approached me to tell me that dude is an addict and that he's been reported plenty of times...he wants some money to go get his fix!!!!

What about the beggars in India. Do you give alms to them.

We need a strict governmental entity, which can ensure people are paid their dues IN FULL and to prevent black mailing....I was told by my brother-in-law that Qatar proposed that workers come to Qatar with pre-set accounts set up in their home countries or anywhere else they prefer, where by their salaries are paid to the government and then deposited directly into their accounts from that governmental entity.

Unfortunately that proposal was rejected because most workers come from areas where either very minimal banking takes place, or they wouldn't have access to their funds.

Any other suggestions?

Super Cool - There may be workers coming from places where Banking may not be avlb but to my knowledge times have changed and even small towns do have banking facilities and yes this does sound like a very good idea. Ensures the workers are paid in full and on time.

Any advice on the amount to tip?

I am a believer in tipping for good service, but I am always unsure of how much in this country.

Taxi driver
Waiter
Petrol guy
Haircut
bellhop
airport porter

/-a-t-/brit, because most of the expatriates think first of their family back home once they received their salary..i don't know if it also applies to other nationalities but we asians are known for making sure that our family back home has a food to eat, money to pay the bills, tuition, etc.. etc..than thinking of spending here for not so important things..for us - FAMILY FIRST..

why should they complain by the way?we're here for work because of our family..not to come here to spend..

Qataris tip all the time and often generously. The men I'm usually with are very generous tippers. I'm sure that others don't tip and that some may tip to show off in front of a group.

I don't think we can make generalizations about nationality.