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Exposing the Treacherous Three
Exposing the Treacherous Three:
Zio-Crusaders, Modernist Muslims, and Disinformationists
By Kenneth Sterling
Is it possible that the nearly 8 year 'War on Terrorism' is really a new Zio-Crusade -- an illegal war launched against the Islamic faith and Muslims and NOT about 9/11?
Well, according to former President George W. Bush and his former Secretary of State Colin Powell, that's exactly right, the 'War on Terrorism' is synonymous for their Crusade.
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while. And the American people must be patient. I'm going to be patient." (President George W. Bush in his Speech of September 2001)
"I (Secretary of State Colin Powell) called President Musharraf and said: 'We need your answer now. We need you as part of this campaign, this crusade'," (Powell says he invoked 'Crusade' in talk with Musharraf, March 2004)
But why would the American government and its allies initiate such a criminal war – a Crusade - which has left hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq and Afghanistan dead or wounded, as well as, thousands of coalition soldiers?
The very nature of a 'Crusade' is two fold; to plunder resources and to change the religion of the conquered nation. The changing of the defeated people's religion makes it easier to subjugate them and guarantees economic and political control for the Crusader governments. So in this case, according to the |Zionist-filled American 'Think Tank' RAND Corporation, the resource to plunder is oil and the religion to change is Islam.
"The dependence of the West and Japan on Persian Gulf oil and the POWER and WEALTH that come from CONTROLLING that oil guarantee US interest in that part of the world for as far into the future as anyone can see." (RAND Publication, U.S. Nuclear Strategy for the Post-Cold War Era, Pg. 6, Introduction)
But America has been controlling the governments in the Muslim countries for a long time and has been receiving the revenue from the resources anyway. So why would they need to launch a Crusade?
The launching of the Crusade was necessary, according to the Bush Administration, because Islamic revival and resistance groups were challenging many of the illegitimate and tyrannical regimes that America had installed in the Muslim countries. Further, many of these resistance groups were gaining ground and were near to re-establishing the Islamic Caliphate, something that, according to Cheryl Bernard, a Zionist Jewess at the RAND Corporation, would result in America losing economic and political control, as well as, control over the oil and gas in the region.
"Rival versions (of Islamic movements) are contending for spiritual and political dominance. This conflict has serious costs and economic, social, political, and security implications for the rest of the world" (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, Pg. ix, summary)
"They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call a “Caliphate”…This caliphate would be a totalitarian Islamic empire encompassing all current and former Muslim lands, stretching from Europe to North Africa, the Middle East, and Southeast Asia… “I'm not going to allow this to happen — and no future American President can allow it either.” (President George W. Bush in his Speech of September 5, 2006)
But can you please elaborate on the American government trying to change their religion?
Islam is a religion that has its own political, military, social, economic, and legal systems internally enshrined. Consequently, it will not allow any other religion, person, or system to change any of its systems for personal gain. Moreover, Islam has obliged its faithful adherents to preserve and protect its purity by physically opposing any and all rivals, which includes forming resistance groups. As a result of this, no invader can easily maintain control of the resources in Muslim lands long-term, and this is what bothers the would-be plunderer. For this reason, America finds it necessary to change the Islamic ideology.
"Fundamentalists reject democratic values and contemporary Western culture. They want an authoritarian, puritanical state that will implement their extreme view of Islamic law and morality. They are willing to use innovation and modern technology to achieve that goal…the radical fundamentalists are hostile to modern democracy, to Western values in general, and to the United States in particular…they oppose us and we oppose them." (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, Pg. x, summary, and pg.27)
So how does the RAND Corporation suggest that the American government changes Islam?
They suggest that America goes on an all out offensive against the basic teachings of Islam and its faithful followers that oppose the US agenda. This can be accomplished by demonizing and discrediting them in every way possible, including through the media, which would lead to these Muslims being unjustly harassed and imprisoned. According to RAND, this should be done in order to turn the masses of the Muslims in general and women in particular, against following and supporting Islam and to cause them to despise and disassociate from its true believers.
"Confront and oppose the fundamentalists. Challenge their interpretation of Islam and expose inaccuracies. Reveal their linkages to illegal groups and activities. Publicize the consequences of their violent acts. Demonstrate their inability to rule, to achieve positive development of their countries and communities. Address these messages especially to young people, to pious traditionalist populations, to Muslim minorities in the West, and to women. Avoid showing respect or admiration for the violent feats of fundamentalist extremists and terrorists. Cast them as disturbed and cowardly, not as evil heroes Encourage journalists to investigate issues of corruption, hypocrisy, and immorality in fundamentalist and terrorist circles. Encourage divisions among fundamentalists." (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, pg. 62, 64 )
Next, America should locate, recruit, and fully support "partners" from within the Muslim countries (conveniently called Modernists/Moderates/Democratic Muslims).
"Modernists want the Islamic world to become part of global modernity. They want to modernize and reform Islam, to bring it into line with the age." (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, Summary- pg. x)
According to RAND, these modernists must infiltrate the Muslims' education systems and media in their countries and covertly re-educate Muslim youth by promoting democracy, secularism and pre-Islamic culture (i.e. paganism).
"The next generation (of Muslims) can conceivably be influenced if the message of democratic Islam can be inserted into school curricula and public media in the pertinent countries...Position secularism and modernism as a “counterculture” option for disaffected Islamic youth. Facilitate and encourage an awareness of their pre- and non-Islamic history and culture, in the media and the curricula of relevant countries. Assist in the development of independent civic organizations, to promote civic culture." (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, pg. 63, )
But more importantly, the 'modernist Muslim partner' must REMOVE, CRIMINALIZE or DESTROY the following three concepts and aspects of Islam:
(1) the prohibition of having alliances with Islam's enemies,
(2) the obligation to implement Shariah Law in Muslim lands,
(3) the obligation of fighting (i.e. Jihad) against enemies of Islam (i.e. invaders and plunderers of Muslim lands and resources).
"Create role models and leaders (out of the modernists)…They should be cultivated and publicly presented as the face of contemporary Islam…Modernists who risk persecution should be built up as courageous civil rights leaders. Publish and distribute their works at subsidized cost. Encourage them to write for mass audiences and for youth. Introduce their views into the curriculum of Islamic education. Give them a public platform. Make their opinions and judgments on fundamental questions of religious interpretation available to a mass audience in competition with those of the fundamentalists and traditionalists, who have Web sites, publishing houses, schools, institutes, and many other vehicles for disseminating their views." (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, pg. 47, Pg. 60 appendix C, )
"The goal was to make it politically possible for Muslim governments to support the effort against terrorism (i.e. Jihad) by detaching the issue of terrorism (Jihad) from the issue of Islam". (Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, Chapter 1,pg2)
So has America been able to successfully implement RAND Corporation's suggestions and recommendations in the Muslim countries?
According to RAND Corporation's senior official Charles A. Goldman, yes they have. In 2001, at the beginning of the Crusade, RAND Corporation set up their camp in Qatar and teamed up with the local Supreme Education Council to put into effect all of the aforementioned plots and plans, making the Muslim children of Qatar to be the first 'guinea pigs' in this experiment. If everything goes according to their plans, these children will be the first generation of Muslims in the Middle East to blatantly love and ally themselves to their Crusading conquerors, and abhor both, their Islamic Shari'a and fighting to defend and preserve it.
"QATAR’S educational sector is bound to witness revolutionary changes in the coming years, feels US-based Rand Corporation senior official Charles A Goldman…The (RAND) corporation was commissioned in 2001 to examine Qatar’s K-12 (Kindergarten through Grade 12) school system. Speaking to Gulf Times yesterday, Goldman said the initiatives the Supreme Education Council (SEC) has kicked off would soon cross a major milestone with more than 50% of the total number of government-supported schools coming under the scheme by the year-end…The system has brought about changes in curriculum standards..." (Gulf Times, 'Qatar educational sector ‘to see revolutionary change', April 2007 )
However, realities on the ground (i.e. busted economies, Muslims' increasingly distrust of America, and growing popularity of insurgencies, and broken militaries) have forced the new leader of the Zio-Crusade, President Obama, the Pentagon, and others in his coalition to publicly admit that nearly 9 years of planning and launching covert and overt operations, spending of trillions of dollars to brainwash as well as to spill the blood of innocents people, and evident plundering of Iraqi oil have been to no real avail.
"The US is losing the war of ideas in the Islamic world, failing to promote its policies to Muslims wary of American intentions and hypocrisy, according to a Pentagon advisory panel." (US losing Fight for Muslim Minds, November 2004)
"Asked by the Times if the United States was winning the war in Afghanistan, which he has called the “central front in the war on terror”, Mr Obama simply replied: “No.”…“You’ve seen conditions deteriorate over the last couple of years. The Taliban is bolder than it was. I think in the southern regions of the country, you’re seeing them attack in ways that we have not seen previously,” he said…“The national government still has not gained the confidence of the Afghan people.” (Obama considers reaching out to Taliban, The Raw Story, 8 March 2009)
The UK's operation in Afghanistan is "worthless" and akin to the start of the Vietnam war, former SAS commander Maj Sebastian Morley has said…"We hold tiny areas of ground in Helmand and we are kidding ourselves if we think our influence goes beyond 500 metres of our security bases…"We go out on operations, have a punch-up with the Taleban and then go back to camp for tea. We are not holding the ground." (Afghan operation is 'worthless', BBC News , 7 March 2009)
Fellow freedom lovers, I remind you with the aforementioned proofs in order to make it clear to everyone that the 'War OF Terror' is a Crusade. It is a massive conspiracy to stop the Muslim people from establishing an Islamic State in their own part of the world. This Zio-Crusade is also scheme to control the resources in the Muslim countries. It is a plot to subjugate the Muslims masses by persecuting, jailing, and killing faithful Muslims while simultaneously placing stooges (i.e. Modernist 'Muslims') in key positions to change the teachings of the Islamic faith with the sole aim to brainwash the Muslim youth. I remind you with their words:
President George W. Bush:
"This crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."
"They hope to establish a violent political utopia across the Middle East, which they call a “Caliphate”…“I'm not going to allow this to happen — and no future American President can allow it either.”
Secretary of State Colin Powell:
"I called President Musharraf and said: 'We need your answer now. We need you as part of this campaign, this crusade',"
RAND Corporation:
"The dependence of the West and Japan on Persian Gulf oil and the POWER and WEALTH that come from CONTROLLING that oil guarantee US interest in that part of the world for as far into the future as anyone can see."
"Modernists (Stooge 'Muslims') want the Islamic world to become part of global modernity. They want to modernize and reform (CHANGE) Islam…The next generation (of Muslim Youth) can conceivably be influenced (by the Stooges) if the message of democratic (CHANGED) Islam can be inserted into school curricula and public media in the pertinent countries..."
Moreover, this absolutely shameful and reprehensible plot is supported by most of the world leaders and mainstream media outlets. Consequently, it goes without saying that these Zio-Crusaders have also placed their hirelings (called Disinformationalists) in every public forum, including this one. Their sole job is to confuse us by any means necessary so that we support the real enemy and oppose the freedom loving people. Some of the tactics of a disinformationalist:
1. proclaiming himself to be a religious advocate, but he will not adhere to the principles of his proclaimed religion, in his own actions. He might even be an ally of another player in the ploy who is an admitted atheist, or a socialist.
2. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into supporting hoaxes.
3. Dividing the defenders of liberty into fighting each other by creating strife among patriots.
4. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic hatred.
You can learn more about the Disinformationalist Tactics by doing a search on: Tactics of Disinformationists, Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation, Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist, by H. Michael Sweeney
HMS/-a-t-/proparanoid.com
If you look closely at the statements of some of the bloggers here, you will recognize that despite their proclaimed religion, they are undoubtedly on the payroll of the Crusader governments (i.e. FBI or CIA) or on that of the Zionist RAND Corporation.
For example, one of the bloggers claims to be a Muslim and claims to follow the Qur'an, yet she openly rejects the statements of the Prophet Muhammad (i.e. ahadeeth) asserting that they are man-made. She says:
"…Much of woes of Muslim women will be over if we follow Qur’an rather than these ahadith. Women lost in ahadith what they had gained through Qur’an." http://peacefulmusli...
She also says:
"…Since that is impossible (i.e. that you understand the meaning and context of the hadith) I can only assume that you pay more attention to the Hadith (which are MAN-made, not GOD-made) than the Quran. I do not. I believe what is clearly stated by God: There is no compulsion in religion…You are free to follow men (i.e. THE PROPHET MUHAMMAD (sws)) if you like. I will do my best to follow Allah…And yes, I believe in Hadith. I do not place them above Quran, though. http://peacefulmusli...
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"I truly am not convinced that covering my hair is REQUIRED."
http://www.qatarlivi...
Well, according to the Qur'an itself and basic teachings of Islam, both Qur'an and hadeeth are Revelation from Allah which must be followed.
"Nor does he (Muhammad) speak of his own desire. It is only a Revelation revealed."
(Quran, Sura An-Najm, 53:3-4)
Moreover, anyone who rejects either the Qur'an or the authentic ahadeeth is committing an act which expels him from the religion because he is rejecting Allah's Revelation. The Qur'an specifically makes many statements strongly forbidding people from trying to make a distinction between the Qur'an and the teachings of the Messenger, and from opposing his legal verdicts and his way.
"Verily, those who disbelieve in Allah and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allah and His Messengers (by believing in Allah and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, "We believe in some but reject others," and wish to adopt a way in between. THEY ARE IN TRUTH DISBELIEVERS. And We have prepared for the disbelievers a humiliating torment." (Quran, Sura An-Nisa, 4:150)
"And whoever contradicts and opposes the Messenger (Muhammad) after the right path has been shown clearly to him…We shall keep him in the path he has chosen, and burn him in Hell – what an evil destination. (Quran, Sura Nisa, 4:115)
"…And let those who oppose the Messenger's (Muhammad's) commandment (i.e. his Sunnah, ahadeeth) beware, lest some Fitnah (disbelief, trials, afflictions, earthuakes, killing) should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them." (Quran, Sura Al-Furqan, 24:63)
This same blogger is also one of the most zealous propagators of RAND Corporations' strategies (i.e. to go into the education system and persuade the Muslim children to abandon the Islamic Sharia'). Despite the fact that she is always claiming to believe in and follow the Qur'an, she openly declares that she rejects certain teachings in it and she calls the Muslim youth to reject it as well, under the guise of 'critical thinking'. For example, the Qur'an teaches that the Jews are the worst in enmity towards Muslims, and that Muslims should not take them as auliya (i.e. friends, protectors, or allies) or they will become one of them.
"Verily the ones who have the most enmity towards Muslims are the Jews and the pagans." (Surah Al-Maida, 5:82)
"Oh you who believe do not take the Jews and Christians as auliya (allies, protectors, confidents, friends), they are but auliya of each other. And if anyone from amongst you does so, then he is from amongst them." (Surah Al-Maida, 5:51)
"“Oh you who believe if you obey a group of the People of the Book they will render you as Kafirs after you have believed.” (Surah Al Imran, 3:100)
Yet this same Muslimah condones taking Jews and Christians as professors, teachers, and friends. She says:
"Well of course there are Jewish Professors in EC! And what is wrong with that? Need I remind Muslims that we are anjoined by Allah to be respectful to the People of The Book? "
http://qatar.livejou...
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I have posted an extract from an article called "The Tactics of Disinformationists". After reading it, my advice would be to google the article, as well as, 2 others written by H. Michael Sweeney ("Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist", and "Twenty Five Ways to Suppress the Truth – The Rules of Disinformation"), read them in full. Then pass all of the info about the new Crusaders, the Modernist Muslims, and the disinformationists to other freedom loving people so that they can more easily recognize these enemies of freedom and they can warn others as well.
The Tactics of Disinformationists
"In the game of chess there exists a term; which describes a maneuver, a stratagem, and a ploy; using different pieces working together, to accomplish a secret purpose. This is called a gambit.
Those who hope to build totalitarian control over freedom loving people, also use many gambits. BUT, the chess player has the advantage of always knowing which pieces are on the other side. Those who would defend liberty have no such luxury. The most treacherous player in the gambit is the false patriot.
The false patriot will present himself as a defender of liberty, BUT he will spend most of his time attacking the defenders of liberty, under numerous pretenses. The false patriot will attempt to re-direct attention in every direction EXCEPT at those, who are building tyranny. The false patriot will attempt to re-direct attention to an entire race, a religion, a large group with a few problems, or even against patriots. This is essentially the very old military strategy of the creation a "decoy to draw enemy fire." The ultimate success of this deception is to cause defenders of liberty to "fire" on non-combatants, or even to "fire" on their own friends, and allies. In addition, the false patriot will neutralize the efforts of the defenders of liberty. The false patriot, like every other player in the gambit, will neutralize the efforts of the defenders of liberty by:
1. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into supporting hoaxes.
2. Dividing the defenders of liberty into fighting each other by creating strife among patriots.
3. Deceiving the defenders of liberty into creating class struggle by promoting ethnic hatred.
4. Attempting to waste the time of patriots, by forcing them to respond to personal attacks, or endless debate about trivia.
5. Using multiple aliases to create the appearance that there is someone, who believes them to be credible.
6. ABOVE ALL: Accusing the most effective patriots of being false opposition.
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMATIONISTS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself...
It is VERY simple: Those who spend their time fighting tyranny, are patriots. Those who spend their time fighting patriots are working for the advancement of tyranny.
Twenty-Five Ways To Suppress Truth: The Rules of Disinformation,by H. Michael Sweeney
Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist, by H. Michael Sweeney
HMS/-a-t-/proparanoid.com
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Eco-savvy said
Modernists (Stooge 'Muslims') Wow ...hypocrites finally got new code.
bleu said
I'll give you a tip, most ...I'll give you a tip, most people on QL don't like 3586-word texts copied and pasted from somewhere else...
You should no that it's useless, and you won't convince somebody who doesn't want to read what you copied here.
pennypitstop said
What a plonker ...Why would anybody read that?
Waste of a post.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Gypsy said
YAWN!!!!!!!! ...YAWN!!!!!!!!
Eco-savvy said
Then the friends of shayatan say ...who are we to judge others? when the verse is very clear
And let those who oppose the Messenger's (Muhammad's) commandment (i.e. his Sunnah, ahadeeth) beware, lest some Fitnah (disbelief, trials, afflictions, earthuakes, killing) should befall them or a painful torment be inflicted on them." (Quran, Sura Al-Furqan, 24:63)
scmasse said
blah blah, copy/paste, blah ...blah blah, copy/paste, blah blah
Eco-savvy said
Before wasting ur comment Obey QL GUIDELINES ...IF this is not of your interest go to other thread
Gypsy said
But it does interest us, it ...But it does interest us, it interests us to make fun of it.
arecel said
hmmm, moving on.... mo lang! ...hmmm, moving on....
mo lang!
Eco-savvy said
Gypsy who do you think is first to make fun of ...Zio-Crusaders? Modernist Muslims ? or Disinformationists?
Gypsy said
LOL. I just love the words ...LOL. I just love the words your using Eco, it makes me feel like I'm living in a comic book. "Uh Oh Watch out! It's the Zio-Crusaders!" "Don't worry the Modernist Muslims will take care of them!"
Eco-savvy said
Zio -crusaders are richest of all ...after plundering oil
pennypitstop said
Gypsy ...Is that with back up from the disinformationists?
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
maria_fernandez said
Thanks a lot demonkrazydemorats :D ...Now I understand why Gypsy,Dora/Supernurse, Adey, Pennypitstop, RedPope, Scarlett, Alexa and the rest of the "armchair crusaders" are always defending America's evil policies. It's clear to me that these people are disinformationists. They have definitely lost their credibility with me and I'll NEVER trust their opinions anymore.
THANK YOU SOOOO MUCH!
pennypitstop said
maria ...Get a grip love. It is called humour. We have not even read the article (well I have not). So how can we be 'armchair crusaders' when we have not even agreed or disagreed.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
arecel said
i noticed that in ...i noticed that in "controversial" threads like this one, almost always a newbie would popped out to comment. double/triple identities of existing member? hmmmmm....
mo lang!
Eco-savvy said
Brilliant thread , bringing Kenneth Sterling ...H. Michael Sweeney and PM together
and Ofcourse Quran and hadith
cynbob said
So, demonk ...So, demonk---what's your point?
After all that cutting and pasting---you must be so fatigued and didn't really state the point of all this.
Hey, but you got your 1 point!
I guess we have so much more in store for us here on QL since you've only just begun.
bleu said
eco???? You just said: ...eco????
You just said: bringing Kenneth Sterling ... H. Michael Sweeney and PM together and Ofcourse Quran and hadith
I just hope you're not saying that these two anonymous people the guys named " Kenneth Sterling" and "H. Michael Sweeney" are equivalent to Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) [you seem to refer to him as PM], and Quran and Hadith??????
Eco-savvy said
bleu reading is grt hobby, spare some time and find out ...whose reference I have given
Alexa said
I think we need to call ...I think we need to call Atomic Betty to save us all!
There is always hope......as God helps those who help themselves
Geoffrey I Boycott said
We have an old Yorkshire ...We have an old Yorkshire saying for tripe like this - Bollocks!!!
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I say what I like and I bloody well like what I say
practicingchristian said
God Bless... ...Thanks for the info dkdr...this is why so many of us are against the Crusade. We have been against their unjust murdering and looting from the beginning. And this is also why we pray for the resistance in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Here's one of my favorite videos I would like to share with u all.
http://www.spike.com...
Look at British brutality against innocent Iraqi youths...
http://www.youtube.c...
British soldiers disguised as Iraqis try to plant bomb
http://thetruthseeke...
Thank you Kenneth Sterling...
God Bless the IEDS!
God Bless the Resistance!
God Bless the Taleban!
These guys are REAL men compared to our soldiers and our leaders.
Geoffrey I Boycott said
Practicing Christian thanks ...Practicing Christian thanks for your input, there is another Yorkshire saying for people like you - T!T
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I say what I like and I bloody well like what I say
arecel said
a practising christian ...a practising christian praising the taliban? lol... what's next? the comedy continues...
mo lang!
pennypitstop said
Disgusting! ...Why post something as awful as you have Christian. You sick twisted individual.
1st Video showing how happy that 'gay' soldiers have been killed in Iraq. How did they know they were gays.
2nd Post, interesting isn't it that the soldiers were being attacked BUT it's the soldiers were at fault.
And then the last little bit:
British soldiers disguised as Iraqis try to plant bomb
Extracted from the Iraqi Resistance Report – 12 March 2006
Translated and/or compiled by Muhammad Abu Nasr
British soldiers disguised as Iraqis try to plant bomb by “Islamic Party” headquarters in al-Basrah, in further apparent effort to spark sectarian civil war in Iraq.
The Iraqi puppet police in the southern Iraqi city of al-Basrah arrested three British soldiers disguised as Iraqis who were trying to plant explosives near the headquarters of the collaborationist so-called Islamic Party of Iraq, a Sunni party that was formed after the US occupation on the basis of the Iraqi Muslim Brotherhood organization. The arrest took place on Thursday night, 9 March 2006, according to the al-Basrah correspondent for Quds Press.
Iraqi puppet security sources said that a patrol of Iraqi puppet police arrested three individuals who were planting an explosive device near the headquarters of the so-called Islamic Party. After an investigation of the men it was determined that they were British troops disguised in Arab dress. The source added, “British forces then arrested that Iraqi group that had the three Britons with them. The British troops released their own men but kept the Iraqi puppet police patrol in British custody,” Quds Press reported.
The incident brought to mind a similar event that also took place in al-Basrah on an earlier occasion when a number of British troops disguised as Iraqis were caught by local puppet police on 19 September 2005 while trying to plant a bomb at a Shi‘i shrine in the city.
Such attacks, and others where the perpetrators are unknown but the targets are civilian Sunni or Shi‘i Iraqis, are widely viewed as a part of an Anglo-American effort to rescue their failing fortunes in Iraq by sparking a sectarian civil war in the country enabling them to fulfill their plans of partitioning the Iraq along ethnic and religious lines.
Translated and/or compiled by Muhammad Abu Nasr. Interesting again isn't it, translated/compiled by this man that has written many supposed articles like this and yet none have been confirmed.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Eco-savvy said
practisingchristian and maria WHO are you btw? ...are you imitating penny,globby,cutey,justmoi
DoraTheExplorer said
maria lovey, I rarely get ...maria lovey, I rarely get involved in political debates so you have the wrong person, try picking out some more random user names.......get with it will you?
pennypitstop said
Eco ...Put a sock in it love. You are boring (yawn)
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
heero_yuy2 said
From the words of Charlton Heston in Planet of the Apes: ..."It's a madhouse! A MADHOUSE!"
"Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
adey said
maria ...damn! You have seen through my cunning plan! I haven't been on a decent crusade since lunch and I'm chomping at the bit to wade through 12th century Jerusalem - shall I bring my Cudgel, Quarterstaff, Claymore or Trebuchet? Decisions, decisions!
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
pennypitstop said
adey ...bring the bloody lot love. You will need 'em.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
khalifk said
Assalaamalaiqum warehmatullahi waberqatuhu ...May the one who shared us with such an eyeopening facts be elevated in status and all the choicest blessings of Allah ta aala may allah bless him and his family his community and his tribe.
Share the truth and only the truth even if it is a verse allah will reward you he never miss out in his promise and who is guided by allah no soul can astray him. Whatever written of Truth and benefit is only due to Allah's Assistance and Guidance, and whatever of error is of me. Allah Alone Knows Best and He is the Only Source of Strength.
Ameen Thumma Ameen
Jazalallah Khair
Ps: All those who are not interested in the post kindly look 4 posts of your interest do not misuse the freedom of speech to critise good work.
pennypitstop said
good work ...rofl
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
knowledge_is_light said
I see that the disinfo crew got to this thread already ...Thanks a million Kenneth Sterling and Demonkrazydemorats.
"According to RAND, these modernists must infiltrate the Muslims' education systems and media in their countries and covertly re-educate Muslim youth by promoting democracy, secularism and pre-Islamic culture (i.e. paganism).
'The next generation (of Muslims) can conceivably be influenced if the message of democratic Islam can be inserted into school curricula and public media in the pertinent countries..."(Cheryl Bernard, RAND Publication, Civil Democratic Islam: Partners, Resources, Strategies, pg. 63,)'"
"So has America been able to successfully implement RAND Corporation's suggestions and recommendations in the Muslim countries?..."
"QATAR’S educational sector is bound to witness REVOLUTIONARY CHANGES in the coming years, feels US-based Rand Corporation senior official Charles A Goldman…The (RAND) CORPORATION WAS COMMISSIONED IN 2001 TO EXAMINE QATAR'S K-12 Kindergarten through Grade 12) school system.
Now we see who PM is and who she is really working for...to see how she implements RAND's plan, visit her blog: http://peacefulmusli...
She is constantly boasting about how she encourages her students to think "critically"
(or should we say 'hypo-CRITICALLY') " I wonder how much she is getting paid to be on the front-line of the "Battle for Hearts And Minds".
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
knowledge_is_light said
PracticingChristian ...Thanks 4 sharing the video "God Bless the IEDS"... it was so funny...haven't had a good laugh like that in a while...
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
arecel said
something tells me that this ...something tells me that this thread will also reached 10 pages.. all the right ingredients plus the actors are here:-) well....
mo lang!
pennypitstop said
Knowledge ...90% of the world is civilised. You dick head Morons make up the 10%
Enjoy your bigoted ways.
WANKER
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
pennypitstop said
Oh where is Advocat ...being a 'Lawyer' rolf pmsl
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
Just curious Khalifk... if ...Just curious Khalifk... if you are for freedom of speach for such post you must also surely be for freedom of speach to criticize? Cant have it both ways :)
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knowledge_is_light said
Hey Penny...your using disinfo tactic #5 ...According to the article "25 Tactics for Truth Suppression"
(http://www.benfrank....)
Disinfo Tactic #5:
"Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues."
You 'Wheelchair-Disinfo Crusaders' have been EXPOSED in a BIG way - Ha Ha
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
knowledge_is_light said
Moderator, please remove ...Moderator, please remove Penny's insulting and vulgar comment.
Pennypitstop said:
"90% of the world is civilised. You dick head Morons make up the 10%. Enjoy your bigoted ways."
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
pennypitstop said
knowledge ...[Let's not get blocked by the Telco] O88 YOU COMPLETE AND *TT*R 8ANKER
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
pennypitstop said
ROFL ...you wish!
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
Penny, really not ...Penny, really not neccessary.... :)
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
pennypitstop said
Hashin ...You have said worse.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
knowledge_is_light said
Everyone ...The '25 Tactics for Truth Suppression' (http://www.benfrank....) and 'Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist' (HMS/-a-t-/proparanoid.com) are a MUST READ. I can see straight through Penny and her crew now.
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
pennypitstop said
Amoud ...when I say 10%, I mean dick heads like Hashin and Advocat.
I do not mean good Muslims.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
I was referring to the name ...I was referring to the name calling and swearing.... and to each his own Penny, you cant control what comes out of other peoples mouths (or from brain to keyboard for that matter) but if you find it offensive dont resort to the same tactics.... keep it as peaceful as possible.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
knowledge_is_light said
Getting back to the Thread ...Your Crusade has been exposed now. All of the articles that Mr. Kenneth Sterling used are from credible sources. Why don't you want to discuss this intelligently? How can you disinfo Slugs keep supporting this unjust war of terror against innocent people by spreading your half-truths, untruths, straight lies, and propaganda?
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
UkEngQatar said
If anyone has watched the ...If anyone has watched the BBC program "The power of Nightamares" would definately agree that there are the Treacheous Two.. The NeoCons and Al Qaeda..
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HE WHO DARES WINS
Amoud said
*Sigh* The truth, my dear ...*Sigh*
The truth, my dear friends is whatever an individual believes to be true. My truth may not be someone elses, it is all relevant to the person I suppose.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
pennypitstop said
Amoud ...I did, they deserved much more then that.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
Lol, Penny, you know there ...Lol, Penny, you know there are a few QL'ers who I would deem in the same boat but alas I think some people get satisfaction out of working people up. Just use your own BS filter to get rid of the crap and enjoy the rest.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
knowledge_is_light said
Penny and everyone else ...Get back to the issue...can u talk about the Crusade or RAND trying to brainwash the Muslim children at Qatar 'Brainwashing' Foundation and the other independent schools? That's what the thread is about. Are you purposely sticking to the disinfo tactic of avoiding the issue?
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
Amoud said
Brainwashing children? Qatar ...Brainwashing children? Qatar brainwashing Foundation?
If you want people to stick to the thread, practise what you preach.... and to be blunt everyone is entitled to their comment any way you look at it. Just because you deem it "disinfo tactic" does not mean others do... If you want constructive debate lead by example.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
pennypitstop said
Anoud and Knowledge ...hellooooooooooooooooooooo, it is 2009. Not the dark ages. IDIOTS.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
Penny, how did you drag me ...Penny, how did you drag me into this? Have I been mistaken in making some attemp at partially agreeing with you here? I am the idiot?
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
Victory_278692 said
There is smoke where ...there is fire...I do believe, shaytan always try to take sons of Adam towards wrong path as promised, but remember Allah has shown the way to all believers how to make shaytan runaway......recite "LA haula walakuwata illa billahel alieul azeem"! see the effect insha allah
knowledge_is_light said
Nobody wants to have a meaningful discussion ...I'm going to bed...
BTW, Penny u claim you're a teacher...u don't have any intelligent input? Can u confirm or deny whether ur curriculum follows RAND's plan of turning the Muslim kids into RANDicals?
“Better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees.” -Dolores Ibárruri
pennypitstop said
amoud ...Penny, really not ...
Penny, really not neccessary.... :)
yes it was Amoud.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Amoud said
Penny, I said it isnt ...Penny, I said it isnt neccessary to cuss and swear like a drunken sailor as it kind of takes away any credibility away from anything you say which may be constructive, and it is kinda against forum guidelines and it would be a shame to see you re-invented after you are banned.
For that I am an idiot.... kudos penny, constructive.
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"Diplomacy is the art of saying 'Nice doggie' until you can find a rock - Will Rogers"
pennypitstop said
Amoud ...lots of people on here are far worse than me. I at least masked it W897534!
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
bleu said
This thread is still going ...This thread is still going on????
I'll just say that I may agree with some of the things in the OP, but posting this huge document (after unsuccessfully posting a small part, with no replies) is of NO USE.
All we'll do here is keep arguing, and nobody will change their mind.
I'll add that not everything is a conspiracy, and the new independent schools system may be good, and again, posting here will not change anything...
adey said
link to Kenneth Sterlings's article ...in the first section of the OP please.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Eco-savvy said
Qatari (Moderator ) may I know what is the reason behind ...banning the ids and then letting them get new ids? justmoi,cuteydog now again back to her orginal
Why cant we discuss the thread in dignified way, Why dont QLers stick to guidelines
Eco-savvy said
Every word written is True about Zio crusade ...This Zio-Crusade is also scheme to control the resources in the Muslim countries. It is a plot to subjugate the Muslims masses by persecuting, jailing, and killing faithful Muslims while simultaneously placing stooges (i.e. Modernist 'Muslims') in key positions to change the teachings of the Islamic faith with the sole aim to brainwash the Muslim youth.
And its happening in Education city. Has anyone read
PM's blog?? I always knew she is on mission
cynbob said
Eco ...Who put or allowed these "stooges (ie modernist muslims) in key positions to change the teachings of the Islamic faith TO BEGIN with????
Who allowed this to happen???
Why are people calling FOUL now??
hashin said
there you go Amoud... ...that gives you a flavour of what I've undergone for the few days...
and oh that's top of being told by her that India is a second rate country with third rate education and fourth rate work ethics... or whatever...
Penny has engaged in slander, name calling, general trolling and complete evasion of the topic at hand...
Penny comes on this thread and calls me whatever and call me a bad Muslim... but she doesn't specify why she does so...
The answer is simple, to marginalize and trivialize faithful Muslims... and that's exactly in line with the following in the article...
"They suggest that America goes on an all out offensive against the basic teachings of Islam and its faithful followers that oppose the US agenda. This can be accomplished by demonizing and discrediting them in every way possible, including through the media, which would lead to these Muslims being unjustly harassed and imprisoned."
pennypitstop said
Blimey ...such hate from such tolerant people. I will leave you to wage your petty vendetta against the West. Good luck.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
hashin said
yeah... yeah... ...you are always the victim aren't you?... poor you...
Chocolate Starfish said
hashin, are you still here ...hashin, are you still here wittering away to yourself?
Haven't you got more pressing matters to attend to?
Like washing your P.E. kit for Sunday morning?
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pennypitstop said
Chocolate ...I doubt he could do that. God love him. It's a shame really.
Still he manages to type here; albeit with another persons help.
Hashin, go to bed love, you must be tired with 'thinking' lol.
Are you now asking what to put next.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Eco-savvy said
Qatari I am sick of YOUR MODERATION ...why do you let thread with silly comments? Why do you let swearing on threads.
As I said earlier this is brilliant thread, and I have forwarded this link to all over the world.
People who cannot discuss wisely, should not enter this thread and harass us
hashin said
is that all you got? ...you and your alter ego here... the 'mini me' version...
stop trolling...
going back to the thread... the following golden rule comes to mind...
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMATIONISTS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself...
bleu said
sorry eco, you don't want to ...sorry eco, you don't want to discuss, you want everybody to agree with you.
Chocolate Starfish said
eco - who is this "us" that ...eco - who is this "us" that you are talking about?
hashin - please stop refering to me as a "mini-me" of someone else. It's both unfounded and tedious. Particularly as I am a 34 year old man.
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hashin said
for once I disagree Eco-savvy... ...Can't you see that pennypitstop and her mini-me friend is giving us a live demonstration of the Zio-Crusaders, Modernist Muslims, and Disinformationists right here on this thread?
I think her comments illustrate the central idea of the article in a manner much more lucid than the article itself... with all due respect to Kenneth Sterling...
If anyone who reads the article has a shade of doubt in his/her mind, pennypitstop's comments will just clear it off completely
Its one thing to read it and another to experience it... let everyone who reads the thread experience it... LIVE...
Alexa said
And you call yourself ...And you call yourself Chocolate Starfish...lol!!!!!
Sorry for the hijack!
There is always hope......as God helps those who help themselves
pennypitstop said
rofl ...Eco and Hashin.
Do you not get it yet?
Go away, you are not wanted.
You have nothing to add.
You are idiots.
Go AWAY.
Nobody likes you or welcomes your opinions.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Chocolate Starfish said
Evening Alexa, 'Twas the ...Evening Alexa, 'Twas the favourite confectinary of my dearly departed Grandmother (god rest her soul).
No more
No less
:-)
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bleu said
Ok, let's start one-by-one, ...Ok,
let's start one-by-one, people here seem to be referring to some people as if everybody knows them...
1- Who is "Kenneth Sterling"??
pennypitstop said
bleu ...I don't know and I don't care.
My thoughts are my own, but I doubt my Mum would agree with some of them.
Geoffrey I Boycott said
Eco, where you bullied at ...Eco, where you bullied at school? Run along and tell the teacher - Grow up.
Amoud: Your comment - "Can't have it both ways" - I don't want any other way than being able to debate, criticise and express our own opinion. The fact that I do not agree with the initial post has nothing to do with the previous thread regarding Freedom Of Speech with regard to religion.
You are more than welcome to your opinion of me, my country (which I served for 10 years, 2 years in Iraq and Afghanistan), and my religion - I am secure enough in my belief and own opinions to not care what you think, unless I believe you have a point. That is the point of debate, it allows you to express your opinion and examine those of other people.
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I say what I like and I bloody well like what I say
hashin said
dears.... ...please do read the thread once in a while in between insulting and slandering us... Kenneth Sterling is the AUTHOR of the article which this thread is about... Seriously people... which planet are you from????
ROFL!!
Amoud said
Geoffrey maybe you missed ...Geoffrey maybe you missed something..... Khalifak was saying that people have the right to freedom of speech but then in the same breath said he didnt welcome criticism.... I was merrely asking him to make up his mind. I didnt make any comment about anyone or anything I believe.
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Chocolate Starfish said
Carry on ROFL hashin. Again ...Carry on ROFL hashin.
Again I ask of you as I asked of eco;
Who is this "us" that you keep refering to?
Are we not all equal, is there an "us" and "them" here that I have missed?
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bleu said
hashin, it's very apparent ...hashin, it's very apparent that "Kenneth Sterling is the AUTHOR", but who is he? what else does he do? what are his views????
I don't just agree with somebody just because he's an "AUTHOR"...
Chocolate Starfish said
Salman Rushdie was an ...Salman Rushdie was an "AUTHOR"
Shall we believe all he states too?
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hashin said
People its about to blow... ...take cover... schizophrenia attack!!!!!!