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Are Guys Not Allowed to Wear Sports Singlets/Sleeveless Tees?
I was shopping at Centerpoint yesterday evening with my friends around 6.30pm. We were in City Lifestyle and I was wearing an Adidas sports singlet. I was approached by one of the security guards who pointedly told me "You cannot wear this", and tugged at my white singlet.
I did not really understand and the manager came up to say that a Qatari man has complained to him that how could he allowed such a customer in the shop. I was speechless and the mood for the evening was kinda spoiled. My friends were also dumbfounded.
Previously, I was barred from entering Blue Salon in singlet and bermudas. The guard came out of the buildng and told me "You no come in."
Just wanna check if the law forbids a man to wear sports singlet. I wear singlet and shorts and walk to the gym from my apartment and almost everywhere I go but I put on bermudas when I'm not going to the gym.
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t_coffee_or_me said
Dress decently specially in ...Dress decently specially in the malls and public places
I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
JhunBug said
Lyf ...that's not a human rights issue, it's just a matter of dressing appropriately, whatever is OK in your country doesn't make it OK in other places. Middle east is a conservative region.
andrew11121 said
Malls, shops, bars and ...Malls, shops, bars and restaurants all try to enforce dress codes. A lot of countries expect people to be dressed in a certain way, and Qatar is no different.
Sandals and shorts are typically barred at most high end restaurants too, so next time you will know to dress in a manner that is appropriate for this country.
MR PAUL said
Sanndals are BANNED !!! I beg to differ but what do all Arab men ...wear then ?? Looks like they wear sandals to me !!
tallg said
lyf, read any literature ...lyf, read any literature about visiting Qatar and it will say that you should dress conservatively when out and about. It isn't a human rights issue, it's out of respect for the culture and religion of the country. This generally means wearing tops that cover your shoulders and upper arms, and shorts that cover down to the knee.
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canarybird said
MR PAUL - the note is on ...The note is on shorts and sandals, not thob and sandals, apart from America I don't really know anywhere in the world where you can go out with your bra/whatever and shorts or a vest and shorts definately not in high class shopping malls. Pperhaps in Singapore hmm I doubt.
MR PAUL said
Well, Canarybird, i have been out in long trousers and a shirt ...With sandals on, and been turned away for my footwear, WHILST Arab men were allowed in.
Seems like double standards to me !!
MR PAUL said
Plus Canarybird, you obviously havent been to the White rose ...shopping center on a Sat morning, shorts and tees everywhere, those cheeky young scallies !!
andrew11121 said
The thob is often banned in ...The thob is often banned in some places that serve alcohol - with or without sandals. Hence you'll never see a Qatari in traditional dress relaxing with a Foster at the Rydges, for instance.
The Pearl will deny you entry (as a guy) if you turn up in anything other than slacks (not jeans) and a shirt (t-shirts etc are not allowed). And even then they retain the right to deny you entry if they don't like what you are wearing.
canarybird said
MR PAUL - well it's ...Well it's an arab world but \i know even in Germany they will not let you in with sandals so no big deal.
About the thob it is a natinal dress and if the premises are selling alcohol they probably prefer not to have men with thobs.
However, haviang gone to a pub one evenin in Dubai - unfortunately there were four locals sitting at the bar in national dress and about their heads you could see the beer pumps, unfortunately I didn't have a camera with me.
canarybird said
MR PAUL ...Might be but it is not liked here be sure and there is a discusiion about a dress code law going on in Qatar just now. There is no smoke without fire, many people find it insulting and want to change it.
MR PAUL said
You will never see a qatari in Rydges !!!! ...Come over to Bahrain, you will see Saudis, Qataris and all of them drinking in all the bars here ! WHILST wearing their throbes, kinda makes a mockery of the whole thing.
canarybird said
As I said ...In dubai too and Bahrain is well known for the freedom of the bars.
DaRuDe said
Paula ...Morning mate
so are there pole dancers in Bars :D or belly dancers :D
andrew11121 said
Mr Paul you will see Qataris ...Mr Paul you will see Qataris drinking at Rydges every night of the week, in their thobs. They do it on the Mezzanine level in the Garden Court Restaurant. But you won't see them in the bar on Level 11.
lyf said
The thing is... ......I understand about respecting the culture, etc. I dress conservatively if I know I am going to places with dress code.
I have been dressing like this from my apartment to the gym since I arrived. At the malls too. I must have been lucky cos they were probably busy staring at me than making a complaint.
genesis said
It is getting ridicules ...Just a few days back, I was stopped in Cornish while jogging by a Yemenite guy wearing thob complaining that my running shorts are too short! I just ignored him.
With all due respect, but I don’t really see native Qataris complaining about that. It is mostly closed minded Bedouins, Yemenis & others. It is a shame that they speak in our behalf.
MR PAUL said
Im all for respecting their cultures, i just find it funny that ...as far as i am aware, Muslim religion forbids consumption of alcohol and pork, and yet you see Muslims drinking in bars.
A friend of mine saw a Saudi man asleep on a sofa in a bar last week, he was sprawled out, his agal and gutra on the floor next to him !!
He was drunk as a skunk, mind you, he probably woke up and drove back to Saudi ! that seems to be the thing to do, until you pile your car up, drink driving !!
tallg said
Places like clubs and bars ...Places like clubs and bars have dress codes so they can stop certain people getting in. It's nothing to do with respecting culture.
But the way you dress when out and about in Qatar is about respecting the culture. Think of it as the whole of the country having a dress code!
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dragonfly212 said
I dont like to see a man ...I dont like to see a man wearing sleeveless shirt or sandals unless they are on the beach or on relax environtment. Is not nice to look at specially when you in the mall. Dress appropriately and respect the local.
Although woman too like to see man muscles but only in private i think. Not in public. Please....
MR PAUL said
Well, my shorts are to the knee and i never wear "wife beaters" ...some how, i just dont look good in a singlet !!
A short sleeve tee is ok here, mind you, ( Im gonna offend a race of people now !!)....... some of the Yankee Navy boys !! I dont know how they get away with wearing what they wear !! They dont seem to respect culture!
tallg said
Why is it ridicules ...genesis - why is it ridicules? Qatar is a conservative country and people are expected to dress accordingly. It's irrelevant that some people may not find your short running shorts offensive. Out of politeness and respect we should dress accordingly.
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MR PAUL said
Tallg, maybe he is hung like a baboon and the Yemeni was ...jealous !!
Only having a laugh people, dont start a fight !!
owen said
hmmmm..may i ask, what is ...hmmmm..may i ask, what is singlet? and how does it look like?..sorry but just have to ask...:D *dang with my silly question again..:P*
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
canarybird said
it is a kind of underwear ...Owen it is a kind of undewear like a vest only in T-shirt style
Ragnarock Raider said
I respectfully disagree Milla.... ...It may shock you to find out that men don't dress just to be eye candy for you.
I wear what I want....what I like....what makes me comfortable....its a matter of taste....no one should tell me what I can wear or eat or read or listen to...these are MY choices....at least in the real world....here in Qatar, if they don't like what you look like, you change or get thrown out.
Having said that, I also am not stupid....I understand that some clothing is not appropriate for certain places....you wouldn't show up to a job interview in bermuda shorts and sleevless shirt (except maybe if you are applying for a lifeguard position lol)...so IF you insist on wearing something for its comfort value, just be aware of the places it is not approporiate and avoid them.
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
tallg said
Haha - perhaps Mr ...Haha - perhaps Mr Paul!
canarybird's definition of a singlet is probably what lyf was wearing - a vest.
However, a singlet is also a name for those all-in-one tight spandex wrestling suits that don't leave much to the imagination. I imagine lyf would have got a lot more stares and complaints if he'd being wearing one of those.
Do a google image search for singlet and you'll see both types!
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owen said
thanks canary...ok, as ...thanks canary...ok, as described, why would someone go out with such attire...honestly, it is logical to dress up PROPERLY being surrounded with people in abbaya and thobs...its our simple way of showing respect by covering yourself, both men and women..:) and this is not hard, right?..
dragonfly212 said
exactly rag, dress ...exactly rag, dress appropriately. if they dont like what you wear, change or get out. easy. i believe you dress nice and smart and most importantly you dress what you comfortable with. and thats nice, nothing wrong with that. but please dont wear sleeveless shirt or half knee pant to the mall. thats all i ask to all man outhere. is not nice to look at when you at the mall. we are not in tropical resort island, its qatar man.
MR PAUL said
OOHHHHH, Spandex !! I will go up the souk and try to find ...an outfit like that....
Just call me "Nachos saggitarius " LOL
canarybird said
MR PAUL ...what about the Spiderman Costume seems to be very popular these days my friends soh has one - one size for all ssssss---------ttttttttttttt----------------rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr---eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet--------------------c---------------------------------------------hhhhhhhh
lyf said
I agree that you should... .......wear what's appropriate for the occassion. For malls and etc, I can probably wear tee (still dun see what's wrong with singlets) but can't I wear bermudas as I hate wearing jeans/pants?
And do I have to walk to the gym in slacks and sweat-shirts which I absolutely find it uncomfy.
tallg said
lyf - I applaud you for ...lyf - I applaud you for being willing to change the way you dress, but how can you say that you 'still dun see what's wrong with singlets'? Several people have taken the time to explain to you that wearing a singlet is disrespectful to the conservative nature of this country. Why is that hard to understand?
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Ragnarock Raider said
Remember that conservative minset is not like the liberal one... ...In that open minded people don't care what anyone will dress like, and will not be offended by what onservative people wear....whereas conservative people DO mind what others wear....they are not as tolerant!
Since it IS the conservatives' country...you must bow to the pressure if you wish to stay....sucks, but it's as simple as that.
Stay safe.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
Ram said
lyf ...That really sucks .. i think u can wear wutever u want ..
we still can see some ladies wearing sleeveless and half of their boobs r coming out of their shirts.. with appearing stomach and sometimes skirts above the knees .. But the point here is the Arab Men will like to see lady like that and keep staring at her .. but if it's a man .. then he will think that his wife or daughter will be doing the same staring at him .. specially if he is an athletic .. that's why and it doesn't have any other explanation ..
If i am with my wife or daughter and saw a man waqring like that i won't care if i trust my women knowing that they won't be seduced ..
But if u can't change that .. wut u gonna do?? all u need is to cope and tolerate with that ..
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t_coffee_or_me said
Ram ...Bingo right on target as usual
I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
buttercupryle said
By the way guys this is ...By the way guys this is Qatar and this is their country so we have to respect them.. :)
Ram said
TCOM ...thanks .. how r u buddy?? how is everything?
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Ragnarock Raider said
Yes and no Ram.... ...I partly agree with what you said Ram regarding why men would object....bus there are also women who would object to a man wearing bermuda shorts to the shopping mall for instance.
I think its mostly because they are not taught to see beyond their indoctrination...the concept of live and let live is a little advanced for them...they honestly believe that theirs is the ONLY RIGHT way to do things.....one hopes that with progress this medieval mentality will improve, but you never know.
Stay safe.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
Ragnarock Raider said
Also yes and No buttercupryle lol.... ...Of course its their country...and in the end, you live by their laws or get deported!
But that doesn't mean you have to grin sheepishly and say oh ok every time they say something a little backwards....you can speak up...let them know "why" you disagree with it...and they will make up their own minds.
Qatar has already improved....you guys complaining should have seen what it was like in the 80s for instance!
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
t_coffee_or_me said
Ram ...So far so good was off busy last week so no net... now back in circulation and its good to be back
How r u and how was the weekend
I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
buttercupryle said
Ragna..for me since the day ...Ragna..for me since the day that I arrived here I did not wera shorts,short skirt or a sleeveless top coz I'm very much concious on how they stare girls who wear a "not-so-conservative outfit" and others doens't want expatriates to wear revealing outfits coz of their "conservative" beliefs and traditions.
Ragnarock Raider said
I know buttercupryle.... ...Its the exact same thing with my wife....but we knew what we were getting into when we came here....it may suck....but overall the benefits outweigh the costs....otherwise we wouldn't be here.
I just like to grumble about it every now and again ;)
Stay safe all.
Perfection does not exist. The question therefore, is: what level of imperfection are we willing to settle for?
MR PAUL said
If you all wanna dress like scruffy holiday makers, may i ...suggest a holiday the to the UK.
There you can wear whatever the hell you like,
And ive never seen any men in throbes !!
buttercupryle said
Ragna now I understand. ...Ragna now I understand.
dragonfly212 said
dont ge me wrong, i love see ...dont ge me wrong, i love see man with less clothes when in appropriate place, hm..hm.. example a bed room or swimming pool or at the beach, but not in the mall here is doha. and no offend, but woman are more nice to look at when they wearing sleeveless shirt then man. he he he, my personal opinion.
Ram said
Ragnarock / TCOM / buttercupryle ...Ragnarock: Listen buddy u might be right but what i'm saying if there is a woman wearing non conservative clothes and i don't wanna look so i will look the other side .. i will not go to her and ask her to cover herself .. That wut our religion as muslim said .. it says look in the other side ..
TCOM: I'm fine thanks .. weekend was really boring without a car .. i guess u didn't see my topic .. i have had an accident and i sold it as spare parts .. it couldn't be repaired again .. I destroyed it .. but thank god i'm totally alright ..
buttercupryle: That is so nice of u but there is still some women r wearing semi-naked .. and i saw them with my own eyes ..
we havene't heared about someone complaining about wut they wear .. or they were not prevented from shopping into big and famous malls and shops ..
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t_coffee_or_me said
ram ...So sorry to hear that hope u r fine
I would rather have one rose and a kind word from a friend while I'm here
Than a whole truck load when I'm gone
Ragnarock Raider said
If everyone was like you Ram there would be no problem.... ...The problem is that not everyone is as tolerant and open minded as you friend =)
But like I said, its a minor irritation (for me at least)....and I can live with it....if the day ever comes when I can't, i'll just go elsewhere.
Stay safe all.
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Ragnarock Raider said
7madillah 3ala Salamtak Ram.... ...Did I say that right?
Anyways glad to hear you are alright.
Stay safe.
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MR PAUL said
Hey ram, I have seen men turned away from nightclubs for ...wearing trainers, but the bouncers still let the ladies in whilst wearing them.
It just takes a cheeky flash of boob, to get allowed in.
These double standards still exist in any country.
( Oh how i wished i had been a bouncer !!)
Ragnarock Raider said
Hehe its overrated Mr. Paul.... ...Bouncers get flirted with a lot...but not much beyond that....and and the fact that you have to deal with druken idiots most of the night took the shine off it real quick (for me at least)....ah the good old university days LOL
VERY true about the double standard though!
Stay safe.
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MR PAUL said
Hey ragnar, johnjo was a bouncer for 20 yrs ...hes told me a few tales, and he had his share ( and mine probably !) of ladies.
Im not young enough to do all that fighting stuff now !
Ram said
TCOM / Ragnarock ...Tcom: thank god i'm totally 100% safe and healthy .. actually everybody wonder how i get out of it .. al hamd le allah
Ragnarock: (thumbs up) yup u said it exactly right and reply in arabic is "Allah yesalmak)
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Ragnarock Raider said
Thanks Ram.... ...I can speak a little Arabic but its rusty as heck....and the expressions are complicated...but living in Qatar has already improved it a lot....now reading and writing is where I suck! LOL
Anyways I'm just glad you're alright man.
Stay safe.
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Ragnarock Raider said
Now Mr. Paul..... ...I'm not saying I never got ANY....just not as much as you'd think with the CONSTANT flirting....apprently girls like to flirt with bouncers LOL
But it was back in my younger days, and it was only for a short period of time (2 years)...but I remember disticnly the manager INTRUCTING us to let scantily clad women jump the line to get in (as long as we were under the fire safety limit)! Its good for business he said....so yeah I 100% agree with the double standards!
Stay safe all.
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canarybird said
Where ever you go in the world ...Wherever you go in the world you are underlying some kind of restrictions, and rules are there.
I always wonder when you go to live and work in a conservative country why such a fuss is made about wearing conservative clothes as this is know before you arrive here.
At one time there was a fashion and people were fashion concious nowadays anything goes (or does not go).
Although Qatar welcomes tourist they do not want their culture and traditions to be disturbed.
Ram
Yes you are quite right about women walking around showing to much flesh here and they will pass a law accordingly. However, to be quite honest if I were to go to a bar or a club I would always look at at person who is dressed properly as it shows he has respect for himself in the first place.
Just that I am old fashioned in this case - the less you see the more interesting it is.
Ram said
RagnaRock ...Don't worry buddy i can help u with that .. if u can talk arabic and hold a conversation then there is no need to read or write .. unless u gonna pass exams .. lol .. I don't use the arabic too much .. although it's my mother tongue ..
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Ram said
canarybird ..."Just that I am old fashioned in this case - the less you see the more interesting it is."
I'm also like that .. but with little difference .. the less u see the more exciting it is..
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canarybird said
Same thing ...Same thing different wording.
lyf said
So it's a matter of culture, etc... ......not by the law. If you ever heard of anyone being deported cos he's wearing singlet in malls, etc, it's probably me.
amnesia said
it's just a dress code. Not ...it's just a dress code. Not a law thats for sure.
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salax85 said
mmm some justice to the ...mmm some justice to the female dress barrings.