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Misunderstanding led to hijab row (Part 2)

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DOHA: The incident in which a girl student of a private school was denied entry to the classroom for wearing head scarf (hijab) has triggered a public outcry forcing the Supreme Education Council (SEC) to issue a clarification.

A senior SEC official, while speaking at a popular morning programme on Qatar Radio on Tuesday said that the incident had happened due to a misunderstanding by one of the school staff.

“The Supreme Education Council intervened in the issue and conducted an investigation. It was found that there was a misunderstanding by one of the school employees,” a local Arabic daily quoted Aysha Jassim Al Kuwari, director of Media and Communication at SEC as saying.

The SEC received a letter from a friend of the student’s father through its Twitter account.

“Immediately we contacted the man who wrote the letter seeking more information. Soon we intervened and asked the school to allow the student to attend the classes,” she added.

The official added that the SEC will take stern action against any school violating the rights of the students.

The Peninsula

*To read the part 1 of the news:*

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camper719's picture

camper719 said Even in Qater! ...

If it happens in the Muslim world, why do we blame non muslim countries for doing such a thing? how could it be a misunderstanding in Qatar?

 

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sirlenfen said Must not make mistakes... must keep head down... ...

Let's punish severely those who make mistakes. Make sure that no one has the temerity to misunderstand anyone ever again.

Best to not take risks then mistakes can't happen. Always ask boss before doing anything, never ever take initiative, make sure can't be accountable for actions, if there is no process then do nothing. The golden rules.

 

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Segmund said What? ...

I do not see what is new in this part 2? We all know that the teacher did something wrong to stop the girl from entering the class just because she was wearing a scarf. Why do we need to lengthen this discussion. Just deal the guy the punishment he deserves and get onb with life.

 

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Yasir_Kh said I don't get it, what was the ...

I don't get it, what was the misunderstanding that led the teacher to stop the student?

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Yasir_Kh said anybody knows, which school ...

anybody knows, which school we are talking about?

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sirlenfen's picture

sirlenfen said Doesn't matter about facts... punish... ...

Why would we want to understand why the teacher did it. He made a mistake, must be punished. Let's not mix up the concept of justice versus a good spectacle.

 

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Yasir_Kh said Because half news is no ...

Because half news is no news!

Any person, in his/her right mind, would not just invent a school policy. I mean there must have been a new directive from management.

Everyone is blaming the teacher but teachers do not take decisions like this without approval/information of the management!

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sirlenfen said Because half news is no... ...

You are applying a sense of fairness, logic, and rationality to a debate in Qatar.

Bottom line:

Does he have a sponsor to be here?

If answer is "Yes" then:

If he is just stupid: punish him
If he is ignorant: punish him
If he was following instructions: punish him
If he was showing initiative: punish him
If he thought he was doing the right thing: Who cares? punish him.

If the answer is "no" then:

It must have been someone else who made the mistake.

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said To nip evil in bud ...

I commented on this one yesterday as well.

Just for a perspective, let us take the example of the unfortunate incident in Libya where a United States diplomat and three other Americans were killed by a group of gunmen who stormed the US consulate--- apparently as a backlash of video film made by an anonymous person claiming to be Israeli-American.

The incident would now most likely spark further protestation accross the world causes uncalled for inconvenience for many innocent people. The person responsible would sit back in their chair watching all this in amusement. It is very possible that the man who made the blasphemous video (God's curse be on him forever) is not even American or Israeli in the first place. He might be a common enemy of both Americans and Muslims. Yet he managed to let loose the angers of his two enemies upon each other.

It is important to catch and take to task this person, not a whole world of innocent people. And it is important for Muslims as well as America to launch a witchhunt for this man, no less rigorous than that for OBL, to track him down, and give him a punishment which would teach him a lesson that he and the world would never forget. If he can get away with his crime, we should not be surprised his crime to be followed by crimes by other people but of a similar nature.

The very same thing applies in the headscarf row. I do not want to sound harsh or insensitive, but it is a fact of the matter that humankind has been made this way. We tend to learn from experience. If we witness this man come out of this row altogether unscathed, we should be sure that anybody else would could also easily want to commit a similar crime without any fear of retaliation.

It is important that this man be identified, punished in the most appropriate way, and the bloody book of law be read to him, in the bitter letter. It should become an example for the rest of the people that it is simply not ok to challenge the rights of others since there is no way you could get away with it.

 

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Yasir_Kh said Hmmm... I did not see this ...

Hmmm... I did not see this earlier: http://dohanews.co/p...

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sirlenfen said Bloody book of law... ...

Yeah. Punish him. Clearly the story is a beat up but, nevertheless, someone must be punished. Punish punish punish.

First I've heard that Americans and moslems are enemies Segmund. What happens if someone happens to be an American AND a Muslim? I understand that there are nearly 2 million US Muslims, exactly who are they enemies of?

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said yawnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ...

yawnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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LincolnPirate said The American Muslims are the ...

The American Muslims are the enemies of the Jews, not the American Jews, though. Or what?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said i think this was an early ...

i think this was an early hijack

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kkforever young said so what ? ...

so what ?

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said benson, where is your proof ...

benson, where is your proof that Zionists are NOT Jews!! Bring it up, NOW!

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

Baburao-Ganpatrao-Apte's picture

Baburao-Ganpatr... said irrelevant to topic LP and ...

irrelevant to topic LP and Benson both as well as OP for always posting muslim related topics which coz bashing, shld be given warning by mods

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said dont answer him , he is ...

dont answer him , he is looking for time pass

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Captain_Lost's picture

Captain_Lost said Just what possible ...

Just wondering what possible "misunderstanding" could that be???

maybe something like.. "Oh you were wearing a headscarf, we thought its a hat" ?? totally MISUNDERSTOOD

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said sumone wearing a hat forum ...

sumone wearing a hat forum will be copy and pasted and it will lead to jews and muslim bashing

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sirlenfen said Just what possible... ...

if you read the article posted earlier that shows what a beatup the whole thing is. You will see that the misunderstandign was that the teacher in question simply asked whether it was usual for someone so young to wear a hijab. She was never banned from school, never chastised, in fact all of the other stuff seems to have been someone's fantasy.

Punish him.

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said i will read from the ...

i will read from the newspaper much better forums are not for copy pasting news articles everyday or ppl shld stop buying them

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shaheka143's picture

shaheka143 said Hi Everyone Its the Compass ...

Hi Everyone

Its the Compass international School.

Source:
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Captain_Lost's picture

Captain_Lost said Punish him... ...

Here's what the report says:

"Reporting on this incident, the local Arabic daily Arrayah said the girl’s father tried to reason with the management but without any success."

oh come on, you call this a misunderstanding, really??
And they couldn't understand until the SEC got involved ??

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Captain_Lost's picture

Captain_Lost said Oh and I'm not saying to ...

Oh and I'm not saying to punish him, its something i copy/pasted from sirlenfen's comment (Something sarcastic i believe)

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Segmund's picture

Segmund said Just to remove any confusion ...

I never said Americans and Muslims were enemies. I meant there was a possiblity that a third party could exist who could just try to let the Americans and Muslim countries get into a fight because of this film. There are no records of the guy with the same name as told by him, I mean the film maker.

So rather than hating a country for it, we should better get hold of that person and punish him regardless of where he is from.

In the same vein, we should make this sucker an example for other teachers.

 

Bachus's picture

Bachus said Given some of the stupid ...

Given some of the stupid responses in yesterday's thread in which some idiots (including people on this thread) called for closing the school, deporting the teachers, violence, etc., these QLers should be ashamed of themselves. Another great example of how uncivilized, reactionary, and barbaric some people around here can be.

Thank God for the reasonable majority that is willing to wait to learn the facts before taking action and respond in proportion to the offense (if it is a misunderstanding, simply educate the person). And thank God that the reasonable majority prevailed in this case.

 

Bachus's picture

Bachus said Segmund--so what about the 7 ...

Segmund--so what about the 7 million Muslims living in the US? Do you propose the hit themselves?

Being Muslim and American is not mutually exclusive, just as being Arab does not mean you are Muslim. Get some perspective.

 

dudboyseller's picture

dudboyseller said INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN ...

INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY!

Plus, there should be a widespread knowledge sharing and such incidents should be avoided at all times.

Personal Opinion: Respect all religions...if nuns can wear head scarfs so can the muslims. Makes every one's life easier!!!

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Bach ...

Even by my God, you do not exist, as far as I am concerned.

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said dud ...

I agree with you. Innocent until proven otherwise. But if found guilty, then he must receive the punishment he deserves.

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said bachus shldnt u be ashamed ...

bachus shldnt u be ashamed when ur armed forces go invade n kill innocent civilians

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Bachus's picture

Bachus said Monkey--If they did, then ...

Monkey--If they did, then yes.

Don't Segmund, if my God recognizes your existence (if only as a means of provoking pity).

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said such a shame then ! ...

such a shame then !

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LincolnPirate said Benson, where is your proof ...

Benson, where is your proof that Zionists are not Jews? Don't ask me a question, bring the proof!

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

stealth's picture

stealth said All Jews are not Zionists. ...

All Jews are not Zionists.

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said Are you Benson, stealth? ...

Are you Benson, stealth?

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

stealth's picture

stealth said What do you think LP? Are you ...

What do you think LP? Are you redpope LP?

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said Not necessary, Benson. You ...

Not necessary, Benson. You have disqualified yourself already in the thread about swimwear.

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

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Baburao-Ganpatr... said LOL LP u disqualified him ...

LOL LP u disqualified him from QL

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t_coffee_or_me said Good Jew cannot be a Zionist ...

Good Jew cannot be a Zionist likewise a Zionist cannot be a good Jew.

 

 

 

 

 

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Mike Shamrock said "It is important that this ...

"It is important that this man be identified, punished in the most appropriate way, and the bloody book of law be read to him, in the bitter letter."

My alarm just went off... nutcase detected!!!!!!!!

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britexpat's picture

britexpat said Here's a wheeeze of an ...

Here's a wheeeze of an idea.

They should set up a public website where the culprit can be named and shamed.

We can then use it for other cases in the future :O)

 

Rizks's picture

Rizks said eagerly waiting for "Part ...

eagerly waiting for "Part 3".....:)

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britexpat's picture

britexpat said Part 3.. ...

The teacher and the Friend of the Father arrange to meet at Rizks Pani Puri and Papadom Palace to discuss the issues and share a cracked cup of hot Karak Chai..

The next day, there is a tweet that the waiter had purposely spilled a hot cup of Karak Chai on the teacher's lap and the CID were intervening ..

 

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Rizks said ROFL you paan seller ! ...

ROFL you paan seller !

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sirlenfen's picture

sirlenfen said Here's a wheeeze of an ... ...

We can punish them all without trial.

 

fubar's picture

fubar said KILL THEM ALL!!! ...

KILL THEM ALL!!!

 

Mike Shamrock's picture

Mike Shamrock said Let their bloody souls burn ...

Let their bloody souls burn in hell!

YEAH!!!

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FathimaH said I hope to God the "guilty" teacher doesn't ...

happen to log into QL now...the poor soul might run helter skelter to the air port, sans baggage!!

"And the slaves of the Most Beneficent (Allah) are those who walk on the earth in humility and sedateness, and when the foolish address them (with bad words) they reply back with mild words of gentleness"(Surah Al Furqan:63)

 

aiwa6's picture

aiwa6 said Off with their heads? And ...

Off with their heads?
And then I hope Alice wakes from this bizarre dream :/

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stealth's picture

stealth said Irony..... ...

Irony.....

 

fedupbrit1113's picture

fedupbrit1113 said Hijab ...

If you want your daughter to have an English education...live with it!

When we put our children in schools in Doha we have to live with the 'rules'you put in.

You either allow Western innfluence or you don't.

 

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Jama galan said Hijab ...

I feel pain, about what happening in the world muslim, some are faighting each other, some they behave like non muslim. Here is another story about hijab in a muslim country not in europe or america. How could a brivate school in qatar refused a muslim girl to enter her class? The answer is just her beautiful hijab, subxanallah. How could they dare? We should tell them this is a world muslim a real world, not a fake like western countries. They have to take our rules that from allah subxanuhu wa tacala, not the one they made them selves.

Galan

 

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