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The dreaded Past Indefinite

Segmund's picture

Somehow I have noticed that a lot of people have a particular aversion to using the past indefinite tense in the correct way and it is more so with the negative and interrogative rather than the affirmative.

I have encountered a good number of people who can speak quite adequate English but their proficiency is undermined by the occasional but serious mistake of verb tense in this particular situation.

I would like ot just give a few example of some sentence and I hope that would help, at least some of us.

Example 1.

I went to school. (positive)
I did not 'go' to school. (negative)
Did I 'go' to school? (interrogative)

Example 2.
The servants knew. (positive)
The servants did know (emphatic positive)

Example 3.
He used to drive few years ago.

The following sentences are grammatically INCORRECT and must be avoided.

1. I did not went to school.
2. The servants did knew.
3. He used to drove a few years back.

I hope this effort is worth some while.


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kiwiinqatar123's picture

kiwiinqatar123 said The pot calling the kettle ...

The pot calling the kettle black?

"adequate English" should be 'English adequately'.

"like ot just" should be 'like to just'.

"a few example of some sentence" should be 'a few examples of some sentences' or 'an example of a sentence' or 'an example of some sentences'.

"The servants knew. (positive)" should be ' The servants knew (positive).

"The servants did know (emphatic positive)" should be 'The servants did know (emphatic positive).'

"INCORRECT" should be 'incorrect'.

"I hope this effort is worth some while." doesn't make sense. Should be 'I hope you found this useful.'

Does it really matter that much on QL? As long as people are communicating and are being understood, who really cares?

 

Khanan's picture

Khanan said I agree KIQ ...

'Does it really matter that much on QL? As long as people are communicating and are being understood, who really cares?'

 

.sun26872's picture

.sun26872 said hahaha.........one Noble ...

hahaha.........one Noble Prize in English literature.

 

.sun26872's picture

.sun26872 said Sorry, English Grammar. ...

Sorry, English Grammar.

 

painther's picture

painther said so the preacher (segmund) ...

so the preacher (segmund) needs a lesson from kiwi in qatar...LOL
funny!

 

Molten Metal's picture

Molten Metal said kiwi ...

Thanks for your righteous deed .. correcting mistakes .. God bless you !

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.sun26872's picture

.sun26872 said This great favor of yours to ...

This great favor of yours to the human kind (QL kinds) shall be remembered on the ' Day of Judgement'.

 

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TheDarkKnightRises said Grammar Nazi schooled.. ...

Grammar Nazi schooled..

 

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Mike Shamrock said Yo no hablo ingles ...

Yo no hablo ingles

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LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said Even in your language, Mike, ...

Even in your language, Mike, 'ingles' should have a capital 'I' at the beginning!

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

Prism's picture

Prism said OP seems to have got carried ...

OP seems to have got carried away by a couple of compliments on QL....:)

"If you do not want your enemies to know the facts, take care that your friends do not know them"- Machiavelli

 

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strawberry_shisha said mafi malum englisi :D ...

mafi malum englisi :D

"Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History" ~ Laurel Thatcher Ulrich

 

tinkerbell10's picture

tinkerbell10 said What is da aapeening in ...

What is da aapeening in ere??? Eh???? we are learning he engleees???? oh my dear Gaaaddd!....:P

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painther's picture

painther said tinker what is gaaaaddd :P, ...

tinker what is gaaaaddd :P, missing spellings??

 

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Rizks said ROFL paint..her ! :) ...

ROFL paint..her ! :)

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fred2265's picture

fred2265 said It is more important to make ...

It is more important to make yourself understood than to be grammatically perfect..

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.sun26872's picture

.sun26872 said Look at the ungratefulness of ...

Look at the ungratefulness of these QL kinds, OP you certainly deserve better than this.Next time, try future perfect indefinite.

 

.sun26872's picture

.sun26872 said Sentences like 'I shall have ...

Sentences like 'I shall have to be get going'

 

RyanCanuck's picture

RyanCanuck said (No subject) ...

 

AngelinaBallerina's picture

AngelinaBallerina said Also the usual spelling of ...

Also the usual spelling of 'to' is 'to' NOT ot.............

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Kiwi ...

Thanks for your correction. I agree, you are right.

As to whether it is relevant to QatarLiving, certainly it is. Because so far I have seen this specific problem with too many people with otherwise adequate English. It sounds a bit awkward, at least to me, to find someone make such a silly mistake.

I am not saying I am any authority on English. My own English needs a great deal of overhaul. And I should ever be so thankful to you, if you could continue, with the same zeal, provided the zeal is genuine in nature, and provided no criticism for the sake of criticism is what you mean by it.

Yes, you rock! Thanks again.

 

kiwiinqatar123's picture

kiwiinqatar123 said Sorry. Just in a bit of a bad ...

Sorry. Just in a bit of a bad mood and feel like being a Negative Nelly.

 

AngelinaBallerina's picture

AngelinaBallerina said Who cares unless one is ...

Who cares unless one is writing an academic paper??!!!

 

dohabunny's picture

dohabunny said TFS Segmund. ...

TFS Segmund.

 

RyanCanuck's picture

RyanCanuck said Is TFS like FFS? ...

Is TFS like FFS?

 

dohabunny's picture

dohabunny said Ryan, TFS like Thanks For ...

Ryan, TFS like Thanks For Sharing.

 

RyanCanuck's picture

RyanCanuck said I see. So...complete ...

I see. So...complete opposite meaning to FFS. Good to know!

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Bunny ...

Thanks a bunch.

 

blisteringbarnacles2007's picture

blisteringbarna... said WTF... I thought I landed on some e-learning website... ...

WTF... I thought I landed on some e-learning website...lol

 

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britexpat said Past indefinite... ...

My Cuban Shotputter rolled a Havana on her thighs.
My Cuban Shotputter did not want to leave Qatar.
Did my Cuban Shotputter leave Qatar of her own accord ?

 

LincolnPirate's picture

LincolnPirate said I heard she had left because ...

I heard she had left because you couldn't carry her put. (Past Perfect used in reported speech).

Physics is like sex. Sometimes we get some practical results, but that's not why we're doing it!

 

kiwiinqatar123's picture

kiwiinqatar123 said Brit, that should be 'an' ...

Brit, that should be 'an' Havana. ( o Y o )

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Kiwi ...

In some Maori accents yes, but in British English, which is the gold standard by far, it is a Havana, not an. Why do you not look it up in a dictionary.

 

kiwiinqatar123's picture

kiwiinqatar123 said Didn't you see the titties? ...

Didn't you see the titties? English has always had the rule 'an before an H word'. Yank English = butchered English.

"In some Maori accents" How many Maori accents do you know? And what ones start their sentences with 'An'?

You telling me to look it up? Clearly you have not. Make sure your advice and accusations are factual before commenting.

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Only in your kia ora ...

You can say this only in the English your mommy taught you:
An hot summer. An high road. An Hell.

Your mommy probably taught you this:
A hour. A honorable lord.

Your mommy was right, as long as the conversation was limited to the four walls of your house, but nowhere else in New Zealand, nor in Britain, nor in the United States of America the above can be deemed grammatically correct.

I was seriously thinking you knew a little bit of English, but now I am convinced that by calling you stupid, I would just be insulting the whole community of people with a low intelligence. Get a life loser.

 

nomerci's picture

nomerci said I think it is AN hour, but a ...

I think it is AN hour, but a house...simply because the H is not pronounced in hour, but it is in house. Words beginning with
a,e,i, o u need AN.

" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.

 

RyanCanuck's picture

RyanCanuck said Segmund, are you calling ...

Segmund, are you calling people names again?

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said I have always been under the ...

I have always been under the impression that If the word is pronounced with a hard "h", then use an "a". (house, hotel). Use an "a" if the "h" is silent. (honour, hour)

 

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nomerci said Brit, isn;t that what I just ...

Brit, isn;t that what I just said?

" Those who come to a conclusion by a process without rational, logical thought, cannot be dissuaded from that conclusion by logical, rational argument.

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said Yes you did :O) Well done ! ...

Yes you did :O)

Well done !

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said nomerci ...

You just dont think only, you are perfectly correct. It has something to do with phonetics. When two vowels come together, they can only make a dipthong which usually belongs to a single word. It is phonetically impracticable. Just try to say the following sentence.
A apple a hour is always a amazing treat. You will see how difficult it becomes to say it in fast speech.

Whenever a word beginning with h is pronounced with a vowel (usually an a), 'an' and not 'a' has to be used. Whenever the consonant 'h' is used, only 'a' is acceptable and never 'an'.

... I take a high road, and you take a low road. [Bernard Shaw]

My kingdom needs an heir; I need a son. [Beowulf]

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Brit ...

The expression hard h and silent h are not accurate. A word beginning with h may be pronounced with a consonant or a vowel.

 

britexpat's picture

britexpat said To be honest (silent "h"), ...

To be honest (silent "h"), I've never really thought about it. It just comes naturaly and feels right.

 

Segmund's picture

Segmund said Brit ...

Well, the concept of a word being silent was present in many grammar books until just a couple of decades ago. Nowadays, it is, however, not used that often.

For someone who is fluent in English, this should just come naturally without giving it any thought. But for learners, it can, and often does, cause problems. They are better off aware of the rules.

 

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ghazalz said Jio aor jeeney do... ...

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TheDarkKnightRises said It is surprising that someone ...

It is surprising that someone can type with his head so far up his a**

 

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