Qatari's attitude towards Expat Women & Why?

Yes it is right. Qataris are interested in Arabic ladies or any lady exposing her body openly.
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I have seen them following only ARABIC LADIES. They just stare at western Ladies.

most qataris like qatari ladies but some like and desire non-qatari women..

So who actually stares in a "bad sense" ?

I mean, come onnnn.. like who cares just ignore..

It's different from case to case ..

Plus..starnig, sadly, is not considered as rude in the Arab world.. FACT.

Take it easy and act like you didn't notice.. Like they're invisible..

Dua: Amen :-)

Almost 6yrs here and have found that Qatari men generally are
very polite
charming
smell good
respectful
giggly

Giggly?
Hmm, I don't believe I've ever seen a Qatari man giggle.

Most Western men don't oggle or if they do they do it in a subtle way.

It is usually the Asian men (bachelors) that oggle and who can blame them when they are locked up in camps.

I think all men oggle some just do it in a more subtle way.

What I find; I want to say amusing but that is not the right word; that actually people who reveal a lot, sometimes are less attractive then those that cover.

As one of my male friends said, 'they always look so gorgeous and groomed, I fantasise what's underneath the cover. These girls that show it all, leave no elemant of surprise'.

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Well I am female and I ogle at women too. All people like to look at beautiful things, and it is a pleasure to look at a stunning woman. It's like looking at a work of art. That's why it is such a shame that some women cover up. It's like denying the world of some of it's natural beauty. Like chopping down the trees of the cities you live in.
There is far too much ugliness in the world, why resent the people who are just trying to glimpse some loveliness.

QATARI'S LOVE ONLY FILIPINOS [:p] .. BANG EM .. N THEN THEY LEVAE EM [:d]
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what a stupid thread.

We're not a special race.

I know Qataris married to Qataris
Qataris married to Americans
Qataris married to Chinese
Qataris married to Bahrainis
Qataris married to Germans
Qataris married to Spanish

The list is endless. Guess what?! Qatari people are individuals too. We're NOT THE BORG!

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Qataris are nice people...
but we can't tell what's in their mind
when they look at a woman...
may it be good or bad...
nobody knows.

besides why wud they look at us
Qatari Ladies/Arabs are more beautiful to look at
as SHANAWAZT said they are glamourous....

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/-a-t-/britexpat, having a homer moment. Mmmmm seven of nine....

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MissX said "... All people like to look at beautiful things, and it is a pleasure to look at a stunning woman. It's like looking at a work of art."

- Agreed.

"That's why it is such a shame that some women cover up. It's like denying the world of some of it's natural beauty."

- Yeah but that beauty could be reserved for a select few quarters - family and friends only. Selfish? But to each his/her own.

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I have absolutely no problem with it. My problem is with the people who are saying a woman should cover up.
As per this thread's topic.

Well you know that they say...
"People living in glass houses should not throw stones at others" ;-)
Anyway, jokes apart... you may be fine exhibiting your natural beauty and bearing the unfortunate consequences that may entail in this part of the world...
But as long as there is no compulsion on women, whats wrong with women who feel more comfortable dressing up differently from the way you do...?
I can understand that you feel that women on this side of the fence are forced to wear an Abaya by Societal pressure...
But don't you realize that the women on the other side of the fence are probably feeling sorry for YOU that Societal pressure forces you to dress in what they would think is too 'flashy' or 'daring' and are as comfortable wearing an Abaya as you are wearing jeans?
I know when you go to a mall... you are probably feeling sorry that there are so many women 'forced' to wear Abayas
But do you realize that there are women in Abayas like my wife who is thinking to herself how women can wear such tight, revealing, skimpy clothes

lol you guys are acting like I am telling women what to wear. This topic is about Qatari's attitudes towards expatriates clothing. In other words, Qatari's are the ones disapproving our clothing, not the other way around. I have no objection if a women wants to wear an Abaya, I personally think it's a shame because I like looking at pretty things. However I do not in any way deem it unacceptable. My entire point is to let women wear whatever they want, whether it be skimpy clothing or an Abaya.
You guys getting the point of this topic yet?

Qatari ladies wear Abbayas because is part of religion to cover your body, they are proud to do it because they respect theirselves and others. Husbands don't force their wives to cover their body. These ladies are being tought by their parents to do so gradually in their childhood and they are proud to do so. I am not a qatari but my husband is and I am proud to wear these decent clothes too. Nobody forced me to do it.

Regardig Qatari men stearing at foreign ladies, we can not generalise and don't know what is in each person mind when they do it. Qatari men are wonderful people, they are respectful, polite and decent. I have great admiration for those people, and applause the fact that they are still living their lives up to their tradition and religion.

And I clarified it for you a couple of posts later

"I have no objection if a women wants to wear an Abaya, I personally think it's a shame because I like looking at pretty things. However I do not in any way deem it unacceptable"

Sure, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But in an Abaya how much of the woman can you actually see? The beauty for you seems to be that the less you see of a woman, the more beautiful she is to you. Speaks novels.

I'm A WOMAN but I'm vocal about admiring beauty when I see them.

I never gets tired looking at those arabic women in their gorgeous abayas EVEN IN the summertime (such as nowadays) without breaking to sweat. Come on, wearing clothes under THAT BLACK GARB...and black absorbs heat more than any other color...fascinating, indeed.

Go to Saudi Arabia and ask some of the women there if they want to wear an Abaya. There are blogs dedicated to the plight of oppressed women in Saudi Arabia, and no they do not want to wear Abaya's.
Although times have changed, and not all women are forced to wear Abaya's any more, an Abaya is still a symbol of oppression, and to deny that is just naivety.

I think you will find, that the women who feel obligated to wear Abaya's in "free" countries, are oppressed in such a manner, that they do not ever consider publicly complaining. That is the paradox of oppression.

And to be honest, if we are talking about physical beauty, then yes it has to be displayed for people to enjoy. I completely believe that you find the picture on the right more beautiful. But you have to concede that it is not the actual physical beauty of the woman that makes the picture more pleasing for you, it is the lack of presence of the physical beauty.

I have a feeling you skim over other peoples posts, and don't read them properly.
I have agreed that there are women who wear the Abaya willingly, and are not oppressed. But the Abaya is a symbol of oppression whether you like it or not. Symbol, being a representation of something. That does not mean every person who wears it is oppressed, but there has been enough of it in the past, and still in occurrence, for it to be considered a symbol of oppression. And again you ask for examples of oppressed women stating they are oppressed, even though I explained the nature of oppression to you, so I can only assume it is too complicated for you to grasp.

And as for your attempt to make me sound shallow about interpreting beauty as skin deep, is just pathetic. This thread is about physical beauty and the physical expression of it. Go start another thread if you want to hear my comments on internal beauty, but for now stay on topic. And I still maintain that the beauty has to be viewed or realised for people to enjoy it. Is a flower beautiful if no one has ever seen it? Maybe the concept of the flower is, but the physical beauty of it can not be commented on.

And lastly "you take it upon yourself to be the Crusaders of the world and rescue it from the darkness" is entirely your domain. I personally don't care a great deal about the path the rest of the world is on, as long as it doesn't interfere with my own. And people telling me I should not wear something because their beliefs deem it inappropriate, is definitely interfering.

and they are happy to do so; fine by me and others. Yet we know there are lots of women who cover because they are told to do so and that is not right.

What I would like to see, is this; we are here in an Islamic country and tradition/culture/religion says we have to dress in a demure and respectful way. I am fine with that thus far.

What I would like to see, is women and men who then go and live/holiday in the 'West' MADE to dress to our tradition/culture/religion.

After all; as in Rome etc.

I wonder how that would go down?

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I am not bound by Religion to wear an Abayya but would like to wear .. coz
1]Great sun block
2] I don't hav to iron my clothes
3]no prussure to look thin so can eat icecream, sweets,,,(;-)yummm.....]
4] whith a facw veil can trick men in to thinking I am who I am not...:p

Welcome to QL, QatariLady!
Mandi

Thank you Mandi :)

So yes...

Some new rules that apply to the bars....

The funniest is - LADIES NO SKIRT ABOVE THE KNEE.

So, I am advising all ladies:

Buy a long skirt....

AND COME TOPLESS!!!

:-P

We should respect each other and I think that expat should respect Qatars culture to some extent and off course we will not tell expat women to wear Burka or Abaya.

What if the West decided the Burkha or Ibaya was banned and you had to live like us?

What if, when you went abroad it was socially unaceptable for women to cover. If they covered they were stared at, shouted at and arrested?

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We have a religious rule that goes: "Necessities allow for the forbidden" (something like this). In this case I will go out to rescue my child.

The west doesn't always tolerate our culture. Muslim women are forbidden from wearing head scarf even though it doesn't inflict any harm whatsoever on any one! Maybe it's because the men love to see women's hair! Wow how oppressive!

The Dude: Believe me we choose to cover up even if our men aren't watching. Some choose not to cover their hair and you see them every where

Would you be forced to live like Westerners if you had to?

What if, there was no Halal meat (we live without Pork).

What if, you had to wake up to no Mosque but Church bells ringing at 4am.

What if, in Lent, you had to give something up for 40 days? And if you broke that rule you were sent to Prison.

What if, thre was only ONE Mosque in the whole of the area you lived in but Muslims out-numbered the Christians?

What if, you had to strap your kids in cars and if you did not, you could be fined, sent to prison or your kids taken of you?

What if you were fined or jailed for driving whilst on your mobile?

What if, instead of jumping the queue, you had to wait?

What if, you had to bring your kids up by yourself as maids were not allowed?

Not saying you are like this Qatari, but merely bringing to the table how bloody DIFFERENT it is over here for us and how we get on with it and yet we are still criticised and yet it is plainly obvious if you came to live our lives you would not alter your ways one bit.

Seems unfair to me.

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I think I covered your post with that answer to.

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Not forgetting that most Americans do not own a passport so therefore don't even travel out of their state let alone out of the country and I think when America was polled MOST did not even know UK was part of Europe or where the Middle East was.

Mandi by saying your friends back home are amazed at the American ways over here does not help the post.

Would they or would they not live like us and follow our rules IF THEY HAD TO?

I think some would for a while but most would not.

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"plainly obvious if you came to live our lives you would not alter your ways one bit"

This popcorn is not their fault.

This is the fault of western governments being to social/democratic and not valuing culture enough. Here they do. If our western cultures would become more nationalistic, expatriates in 'the western' societies would have to adapt or 'take a hike'. In the very near future you will see this happening in Europe, note the movement of European politics to the right.

Oh yes, the church here...

Grateful the religious expatriates should be for their church. It is conveniently located in the middle of freaking nowhere.

In some countries they have become too tolerant. I agree with you and some take the piss and those people know it.

I hope one day the tables will turn and it goes back to the way it was; this is my country and you live like us when here.

My point being, Qatar is ok for me, I don't want to reveal my ugly flesh (too old) but they need to be more tolerant of some behaviour and less tolerant of others.

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You don't have pork but you have other options that you can go for. If in your country we didn't have hala veal but there are other options like chicken, fish etc. what's the big deal?
If you're fined because you were on the mobile this is for your own safety. You used seat belt before us and we used to find it civilised not constraint.
What do you give up for 40 days? I don't think you fast with us. You can eat whatever you wish in Ramadan.
Are you sad because the number of churches is small?! Do you go to church in your own country?
We do wait in a queue!!
Obviously you're upset. For how long have you been in Qatar?

BTW, we have churches here even though no Qatari is chiristian! The western world is tolerating mosques because there are millions of Muslim citizens there who have the right to practise their religion. Mosques are originally for your Muslim citizens not for expatriates

My church in Doha meets at DESS (9 am Fridays and 7:30 pm Sundays) and is a large Protestant/Anglican congregation called the Church of the Epiphany. We have several hundred members from almost all of the varied expat communities in Qatar. The pastor does many of the weddings for expatriates here in Qatar and none of us have EVER been threatened with deportation. In fact our relations with the government are excellent. We are building a new facility in the Abu Hamour district and are really looking forward to a large worship, education and fellowship space and collegiality with the other Christian communities here in Doha. Many of these church communities are language-based in affiliation but we have half a dozen or more English-speaking congregations. Come on over sometime! (We don't bite or even get pushy!)
Mandi

do you have to meet in a school that is Embassy run? Why are there not churches for all religions?

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As I've said, many are small, ethnic congregations such as the Tamil group. Then there are the congregations affiliated with the Roman Catholic or Greek Orthodox churches such as the Mar Thoma and the Mar Gregorius and the Philippino groups. Then there are the Syrian Orthodox, the Arabic congregation, the Ethiopian congregation, the Copts and of course, the larger Protestant groups such as Grace Fellowhip and Doha Fellowship. Then there is the very large Indian affiliated Protestant communities which have their own building in Abu Hamour. You do know that for the opening of the Abu Hamour Roman Catholic facility last Easter there were 10,000 worshipers in attendance. It was on the front page of all the newspapers.
Mandi

The bottom line is in your country you don't tolerate any thing that is really against your values.

For your sake our government allowd alcohol in, even though we consider it harmful to our youth.

I say, does this meet the needs of other religions over here? No! This is my point. There are more 'other' religions than Muslims.

I am not asking for all religions to be taken care off (although that would show normal tolerance).

I am saying, they dictate how we live and how we practice our faith but they go abroad and they still can practice their faith, wear what they want, eat what they want etc and we.....well, if we go against it, we are seen as the wayward West.

We are not ALLOWED to wear a skirt above our knees but we tolerate them in Burkas etc.

They hate the West and yet look around you....show me a Qatari supermarket, show me a TRUE Qatari anything for that matter.

They either tolerate or they don't.

It seems so racist and intolerant.

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ALL the questions you have asked are completely irrelevant
Muslim countries call themselves 'Muslim' because they abide by the laws of Islam. When you or anyone else is invited to work or live here, you come here fully aware what the laws and local customs are.
The country even makes certain allowances to make you more comfortable.
That is because Muslim countries give that much importance to their cultural and religious identity.
It is not the fault of Muslims that religion has lost its relevance in 'secular' Governments.
If you feel you are getting a raw deal by having to respect the local laws and tradition, feel free to ban anything that is nonChristian where you come from...
Muslims would be happy if that were to happen... no more legal prostitution, homosexual marriages, premarital sex etc. etc. etc...
However, you can't... cos religion has lost its relevance in Western Society... that's not our fault... that's your problem... so live with it