West are a superior civilization

I beg to differ.. when the west themselves does not feel that way, why would you?

i think you are just hurt by some incident or is carried away by some opinion of another individual.

being an asian is a previlege in itself, i know of many westerners who would love to be a part of the asian culture and not get back to the west.

Almost true. They invent, we use. Or us the user of technology. Except for oil of course.

At different times in history civilizations have proved their superiority over others, at present its western that dominate. With respect to everything from medicine, art, technology, morality, ethics, rest of the world follows what west sets as standard.

I guess u r right, got the same feeling myself... one guy snubbed u and u create a thread...

Undeniably the West has more military power than the East. But, what does that have to do with 'superiority'?

no-one over ever stated or thought that we were superior. We would look at all this silly stuff one sees on the international news,,,riots in Pakistan, thugs in Russia, people chanting wildly in the streets for the guy who paid them to do it, and we thought it was the exception to the rule,,,that it was like watching something on Walt Disney. The shock came when coming to the 3rd world is that this is how it really is...it is SO unlike how we perceive and live our lives...we have pet animals, we care for each other a lot,,,we extremely high levels of education,,,as I said before, we operate with the philosophy of the Greeks, the law of the Romans, 2 industrial, one technological, and now a game-changing green revolution,,,we make and invent everything we use, we walk on the moon, explore Mars by proxy, go 9000 feet below the surface of the sea, we fly in our own airplanes at mach .95,,,,,we circle the planet in our own space station, we have our wonderful literature, our varied and intricate music,,, we do not wish we were another colour, , we never try to copy anyone,,,and the faces on our billboards reflect ourselves,,,we never want to purposely do harm,,,,and we do this all ourselves,via our own intuition,,,,it is a reflection of who we are and it will keep on coming, it will not stop,,,and I cannot wait until to invent and develop more as a people.....I won't say that we are better, because thats not what we do,,,but I can say that, as a people,we are very, very different.

"Superiority" only has to do with power! How else do you want to "measure" it? Is the theory of Quantum Mechanics "better" than "Ying and Yang"? It's a matter of taste and appreciation. And winning the Nobel Prize or an Oscar doesn't mean anything either. These are just conventions of self-praising.

West has more power because they have more people, and more taxes to gather, so they have more money to be used to UPGRADE what they have. East is small compared to them, hence less people and less tax to collect to be used to "invent" and do a "research and development". If East would focus on Superiority rather than looking at the welfare of their people, it would be pointless. Look at how SUPERIOR the west now is with the economic crisis...and compare it with the East who suffers less than theirs.

It's not because things are difficult that we don't dare, it's because we don't dare that makes things difficult!

Is the East mainly composed of China and India?

It's not because things are difficult that we don't dare, it's because we don't dare that makes things difficult!

A question comes to mind..

Were the Greek and Roman civilizations superior to the Egyptian and Prussian ?

Is superiority just power or do culture, civility, justice come into it ?

huh? Did this guy just wake up and make this statement without thinking?

If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you; that is the main difference between a dog and man.
-Mark Twain-

In the end, brit, that's a question of preferences. The Roman Empire was solely based on its military power. Secured with military might they had time to think about art and philosophy. They declined when their military power corrupted. Ghenghis Khan is another example of military superiority. He threatened even the oh so civilized Europeans. The Americans are not the cream of intelligence, but they have the largest weapons arsenal in the world. Take it away from them and see who they are.

I think so, brit. The military power is used for what? - To secure the resources for the economy. Economy is based on availability of factors of production, for example, energy.

LOL....

This is funny.

And your proof is those few words???

My point was east has more number of people becoz of these 2 countries being there so ur logic of more people more taxes is flawed and totally rubbish....

Didn't know that it was a trend on QL to start a thread against anyone you are pissed off at. But seems like that from teh comments. But i stated my reason

At different times in history civilizations have proved their superiority over others, at present its western that dominate. With respect to everything from medicine, art, technology, morality, ethics, rest of the world follows what west sets as standard.

britexpat: "I would tend to argue with you regarding art, morality and ethics.."

I wouldn't argue regarding art namely concerning France and Italy..

Art includes poetry, architecture, literature and sculture..

The East was way ahead of the West in these aspects..

poetry is our art :)

I find European fine arts and architecture amaaazing

like what conquerors are you talking about or who?

DaRuDe said Conquerors like??? ...
like what conquerors are you talking about or who?

Salahuddin Al-Ayyubi..Tariq ibn Zeyad..and others

MagicDragon said "Middle Eastern conquerors who introduced them to the Europeans". And then they forgot them. Lol.

Funny and true :)

hapy, inferiority complex disorder is curable.

Someone earlier wrote about realities in Asia. It's rather funny to see how the response after katrina, the riots in Greece 2008, the riots in spain, france 2005, etc.. etc.. !!are any less than the riots in pakistan.

Also, "YES ! West does have more power, because it has more money...but that money is largely "DEBT". And "DEBT" with "Arsenals" make a thug of a combination.

Heroes have appeared on earth from every part of the world and not just Middle East.

dARUDE: eXACTLY: aNYONE REMEMBERS vASCO DA gAMA? sorry caps :)

Ayman

Only God Can Judge Me
الله فقط يمكنه محاكمتي

I am you and you are me, if you love i love, if you suffer i suffer
أنا أنت, و أنت أنا, إذا أحببت نفسك أحببت نفسي, إذا عانيتَ عانيتُ

I am sure the human beings are equal but there is which have a complex of superiority and other does not have it. That’s the difference

I can live with and subscribe to that theory.. :o)

I agree with we should all respect one another but the post was about who is superior.

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Well European cars are superior and Western Technology is superior. Western education is superior.

BUT can the same be said for humans and civilization ?

NO and Yes in my opinion.

Humans are not superior, but given the components of the civilization, they must be.

I don't see the West trying to import as much from the East -- except for natural resources.

That said, I believe that things go in cycles and although current times being good for Western civilization, that will probably change. It's important to retain humility.

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

I nearly choked on my Hob Nob when I read your response..

Status in this case does denote superiority ..

I love American cars, because they are simple, and brutally strong, but the Audi R 8 is the most sohisticated car in terms of applied technology. No such thing from Asia!

and something I would like to see some "Easterners" explain.

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Agree with you about American cars... Mind you my old 560 SEC used to be a tank and kept going through thick and thin..

Brit, there's only few of us who can see the beauty of the design of a Chevrolet small block.

But back to the topic, superior means "higher than", or "above". Sheikh Hamad is superior to any other Qatari. Why? He is also in command of the military forces. That's why. (Ergo: Rome)

for sure.

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The Rover and Rolls / Bentley engines are based on the old Chevy small block..

However, you also have to give credit to Audi for their 5cylinder Diesels and porsche on the Boxer engines ..

The US motor industry has not kept pace with technological evolution of the engines..

Magic dragon [quote] But back to the topic, superior means "higher than", or "above". Sheikh Hamad is superior to any other Qatari. Why? He is also in command of the military forces. That's why. (Ergo: Rome)[unquote]

Surely youre reffering to Uncle Sams army in Qatars backyard?

Qatarita, as I said before, you may have a superior philosophy, but as long as I have the better weapons, you will loose.

them and selling them back, MD. I am really referring to things like education and technological knowledge, specifically in reference to what pcg has written.

Personally, I think the world would be improved by people working together rather than trying to enhance divisions of East and West and build up the so-called Clash of Civilizations.

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

PCG/PM, Most educated Indians do not mimic the West. We don't need to learn your language. But we need English because it is the only language which binds us together as a nation. Many south Indians especially Tamils do not understand Hindi. And we don't understand Tamil,Malyalam, Kannada and Telugu. So it is the language of the corporate world and also the language used for higher studies. Indian universities are good enough. We don't have any Western/foreign universities in India. And if you consider the number or percentage of Indian proffesors/academics and other faculty members at the universities of your country who are Indian Educated, you will know Indians don't have to send their kids to Western schools if they can afford it. And India constitutes a large part of the East.

There will always be ignorants somewhere!

I actually was referring more to the Middle East. I wonder why they haven't imported Indian educational systems instead of British and American ones. Any thoughts on that?

I refuse to drink the kool-aid! -- PM

Because the Eastern civilization were strangled by the Western powers and they slipped during the later middle ages when they couldn't compete with the superior millitary power of the west. India was a British Colony then. That is how English came to India. We did not import it by choice. It was thrust upon us and we are still using it because it bridges the communication gap between people of different provinces.

PM, they imported the Indian numbers, while we in the West are using the Arabic numerals. Funny, isn't it?