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Absolutely barbaric
LONDON (AP)
Medical journal criticises Britain for deporting dying Ghanaian woman
Britain has committed an act of “atrocious barbarism” by deporting a Ghanaian woman who is dying of cancer, a leading British medical journal said yesterday.
In an editorial, The Lancet criticized the British government for removing Ama Sumani, 39, from the country last week, thereby denying her access to life-prolonging dialysis treatment. Sumani had applied for asylum, but was rejected.
In the same issue, 275 doctors signed a letter urging the government to abandon plans to abolish failed asylum seekers’ rights to basic health care.
The editorial criticizes doctors’ leaders for not speaking out on the issue.
“Sumani is not the only migrant who has fallen seriously ill in the U.K., begun treatment, and then been removed or deported to a country where treatment is unaffordable or inaccessible,” the editorial said.
“To stop treating patients in the knowledge that they are being sent home to die is an unacceptable breach of the duties of any health professional. The U.K. has committed an atrocious barbarism,” it concludes. “It is time for doctors leaders to say so _ forcefully and uncompromisingly.” The doctors who signed the letter vowed to continue to give asylum seekers medical advice, regardless of their immigration status, and to campaign against the government proposal.
Meanwhile, the Home Affairs Select Committee will be questioning the Border and Immigration Agency chief executive Lin Homer about their handling of Ms Sunami’s removal in Westminster later.
Wales, Keith Vaz, chair of the committee said: “We know that there have to be rules governing immigration, we also know those who break rules have to be returned, but there is also a question of ministerial discretion.
This is a compassionate government that needs to act on occasion in a compassionate way, while being extremely tough and ensuring the rules are upheld.
Paralysed Briton flies to Sri Lanka
By REBECCA TORR
PARALYSED Briton Mohammed Abdul Aziz left Bahrain for Sri Lanka last night for treatment to help ease unbearable pain in his spine and hopefully help him regain the use of his limbs.
His flight was paid for by two Bahraini societies following an appeal to get him vital medical treatment.
The 67-year-old, who had worked in Bahrain for more than 20 years, had been admitted at Salmaniya Medical Complex since September, following a stroke caused by nerve compression in his spine.
Last month his condition deteriorated, leaving him paralysed from the waist down and without full use of his arms.
Doctors and friends feared that he could die without surgery and specialist follow-up treatment available in the UK.
However, because he had been a resident in Bahrain for so many years, he was not entitled to treatment under the UK's National Health Service.
The National Spinal Injuries Centre, Stoke Mandeville Hospital, UK, where Mr Abdul Aziz hoped to be treated, said he could be admitted as a private patient providing he paid a deposit of £110,000 (BD82,500).
Unfortunately, Mr Abdul Aziz had used all his savings on supporting him and his Sri Lankan wife Miriam when he fell ill a year ago and had to stop work as general manager of Silver Aluminium.
When the door closed on treatment in the UK, the couple took the decision for Mr Abdul Aziz to have Ayurvedic treatment in Sri Lanka, where he will be with his family. He has only one sister left in the UK.
"I have mixed feelings about leaving, I am sad to leave Bahrain because I have been here for 25 years, but I'm happy to go because I want to see him better," Mrs Abdul Aziz told the GDN before she left yesterday.
"He has deteriorated over the last couple of weeks and I just want to get him the help he needs.
"He will have homeopathic medicine, my brother was paralysed and he had the same treatment and he is now walking, so hopefully Mohammed will feel better."
The Liverpool-born patient had to travel to Sri Lanka in a stretcher and the flights for him and his wife cost BD2,900.
The Royal Society of St George donated BD1,000 and Discover Islam covered the rest.
A Bahraini businessman previously donated BD500 to cover the couple's immediate living costs and other expenses.
Mr Abdul Aziz was taken directly from Colombo Airport to the Ayurvedic Teaching Hospital, Borella, upon his arrival.
His stay and treatment will cost more than BD300 per month and the couple are still not sure how they will cover the amount, but are hoping that more donations will come in.
"We are very grateful for all the people who supported us spiritually, mentally, emotionally and financially," said Mrs Abdul Aziz.
"This has given us hope and I'm positive we are doing the right thing because we will have family to support us and they are waiting for me and Mohammed to come."
Mr Abdul Aziz, formerly John Montgomery Davies, converted to Islam in 1986 after moving to Bahrain.
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SPEED said
Good Morning Paul ... ...Well the Country like UK who always fight for the human rights all over the world. For me this seems very strange, although she was illegal staying in the country but her condition which is described as bad, should have been treated in UK ! They can give asylum to Bad Politician (who have blood in their hands)but where is the Human Right for Ama ?
MR PAUL said
You have to see both sides of the story... ...She was illegal and shouldnt have still been in the country.Plus why should she get treatment when shes never paid into the system. HOWEVER, it is really a callous act to deny her !
Second story is similar, he is British by Birth so should be treated, BUT hes lived out of UK for over 20 yrs so again, has not paid tax or NI contributions so Cannot expect free treatment. The NHS is already in meltdown, due to bad management and wasted money.
Oryx said
Ghana ...I was listening to Africa Today on the BBC World Service ...
The treatment the lady requires is very much available in Ghana which has high quality medical services.
The problem is the cost.
In theory the British government is right as it is NATIONAL health service.
However there is the issue of compassionate grounds.... maybe a treatment fund could have been started by her supporters so she can access medical facs in Ghana and presumably be nearer her loved ones.
Oryx said
Abdul Aziz ...The other one AA should have kept up his NI payments so he can access these facilities... it isn't too much...
I do and many other Brits do... he knew the system.
SPEED said
Good Morning Oryx... I do ...Good Morning Oryx...
I do agree but it's just my concern, when you say National Health Serivce, does it means if someone is dying on the bed they will not do anything for him? Should he be sent to RCS under the charity ?
These are just few case in the Country say in 100s or 1000s which should not be a really big deal for a rich Country like UK to spend few thousands ponds on such patients.
MR PAUL said
Speed, in the Uk, there isnt an endless supply of money. I could ...say the same for Qatar, a country with such vast wealth, and expatriates are not entitled to free health care !
Same here in Bahrain, there is a welfare system, for BAHRANIS only, no expatriates can claim.
Vegas said
That big dog will keep me ...That big dog will keep me from comment on this one...
You can't teach experience...
SPEED said
That is the worst thing we are experiencing here... ...You do everything for them and end of the day your visa canceled and you are out ! lol
I lived in UAE for 29 yrs (my father came to UAE in 1975 and we joined him in 1979 when i was 4yrs) he was retired in 2000, but after serving the Country for so long nothing he got except money (what they call it Gratuity) ... visa canceled and Ma'Salama (even no thank you)
Now he is in USA for past seven years, he went to visit my bro n his family after retirement on a visit visa, now he is waiting for his US passport ;-) .. lol
I really appreciate what UK/US and other Countries who has a good system on basic human rights. Only get sometimes surprising news such as Ama n AA.
butterfly said
Oryx ...so you think it is right to deny illegal inmigrants the use of urgent and life saving medical procedures?
Also it is funny how people assume that just because UK is a wealthy country, their medical service matches its wealth. I found the NHS to be dysfuntional and poor, and definetely not up to the standards of a developed rich country.
Vegas said
Dang... I thought that was ...Dang...
I thought that was buttercup...
bummer
You can't teach experience...
Oryx said
B-Fly ...Butterfly - did I say that? I said 'in theory' I didn't say it is morally right.
Also I have often said here on QL that I really appreciated the medical service I receive in Qatar as opposed to the UK
butterfly said
oh right ...sorry, still sleepy, must read again the whole topic , I obviously must have misinterpreted your post...
Aghati said
'why should she get ...'why should she get treatment when shes never paid into the system'
& frm oder post:
'A small number of Muslim medical students have even refused to treat patients of the opposite sex'
so difrnt rezon, but sem rezalt: leev patent dy
Saddavi said
salaam all of u ...I should consider my self very lucky thn, got free medical around the world (xcept canada n States) THANK GOD.
but normally never needs any medical care Alhumdulilah
vignale said
If I went back to my home ...If I went back to my home Country, I would have had to pay for any treatments myself. Our former Prime Minister settled down in France and went back home for an operation, Her treatment were not covered- she got the bill.
Aghati said
'she got the bill'...u tok ...'she got the bill'...u tok bout hilary?
Gypsy said
Well I haven't been a ...Well I haven't been a resident of Canada for 2 years so I'm no longer covered under Universal Healthcare. Doesn't bother me to much, I don't pay, therefore I shouldn't benefit.
"How come I can pick my ears but not my nose? Who made up that rule anyway? How come you say that's the way it is, that's just the way it goes, maybe you should decide for yourself what you can do and what you can say." Ani Difranco
hashin said
Mr Paul ...Food for thought...
nadt said
It does seem a bit harsh but ...It does seem a bit harsh but its really not representative of Britain or even the West. In Australia, i know of a case where a residents mother was hospitalised during her vacation and she had no medical/travel insurance. They treated her and sent the bill to her son who payed back the system monthly. How many middle eastern countries engage in this sort of behaviour. In lebanon for one, people have died on the doorsteps of the hospital because they had no money to pay..The health system in the west are overloaded and many "residents are on waiting lists" who are in dire need of emergency operations", so there are priorites.