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Qatar will never be like Dubai

i have tried the life in Qatar 2003/2004 as an employee But as an invester i have came here 6 months back and realized y ppl dont come here to invest.
even i have investment of 500thous qatari riyal, and although i cant make it 100% under my name like Dubai but my visa was not approved!! its not bcoz of the nationality!! my nationality is ok here, but they said that visa should be for a lebanese???? i'm not lebanese and i'm the owner of the business!!! my sponsor was not in the country and i couldnt meet the commettee in the labor! how can i open a business of 500thous qatari riyal and no visa? wat to do with the lebanese visa? after many trials my visa was approved!!!!!! then i cant leave the country unless i have an exit permit??!! wat do i do if i have emergency and my sponsor is not in the country? my business was the biggest filipino restaurant in Doha, i asked for females visas but i couldnt get the approval!! all the restaurants have ladies but y my restaurant didnt get that???
Also its very difficult to get wife visa!! they want 6 months bank statemnt?? y do i have to wait for 6 months?
thats apart of strict and not open country!
I'm happy now that i sold the restaurant!!
thats some of my problems and obstacles here, now i say to get 10thous profit in Dubai or bahrain is better than 100thous here.
Now i knew y ppl dont like to invest here in this country
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dotdot said
ma'shi ya baasha! ...ma'shi ya baasha!
north_me said
In every country has ...In every country has different rules and regulation, I am sorry to hear about your experience while in qatar and most businessman may also feel the same way as you. Here, it does not matter how much money you can put into a business, what matters here is your sponsor if he/she got some good connection in any of government office here to get your request. Since you are already out of the country, just take this nightmare as your learning experience and never try to check in again in Hotel California...
MO RIN...YUN LANG!!!
britexpat said
Why not sve yourself the ...Why not sve yourself the headache. Forget trying to be a Lebanese and go and invest somewhere else..
Good Luck!
spartacus300 said
ohhh men! ...sounds great! made that move other wiseyou will be stuck in the limbo forever!!!!! welcome to jumanji! where the days change with the same shit in a different level of surprise!!!!LOL! HA HA HA!
Dracula said
what to do, Yani...?! . ...what to do, Yani...?!
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bleu said
Just get a multi-exit ...Just get a multi-exit permit, QR500/year.
britexpat said
Is Yaani still in Qatar ? ...Is Yaani the Lebanese still in Qatar ?
MagicDragon said
bleu, that requires a very ...bleu, that requires a very trustful sponsor. How many do you think will agree on a multiple exit visa? 1%, 2%??
qatarisun said
maybe they just don't need ...maybe they just don't need your 500 K? Maybe they don’t want your filipino restaurant, which will bring much more troubles with your refused-females staff, then it will be beneficial for them... Don't look at this matter from what YOU can get from qatar, think whether THEY need you?
and yeah, qatar will never be like Dubai..You will never be Queen Elisabeth either...but.. do you want it??
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vignale said
qatarisun, you nailed it. Do ...qatarisun, you nailed it. Do Qatar need him ? No is my thought.
flanostu said
agree with QS, obviously ...agree with QS, obviously doha is out of your price range (and thankfully i might add) but it gives me comfort to learn that the government is giving some criteria in relation to who lives here.
reaching a satisfactory level of social comfort is hard to achieve but thankfully the qatar government can assist in maintaining it.
warm_heart said
its not the exit ...i have got the multiple exit but its one of so many obsticles
crapcircle said
Hey buddy ...No Doha will never be Dubai or Manama. The Emirate of Dubai and the Kingdom of Bahrain have very little oil left, if any. The State of Qatar on the other hand, still pumps 30% of the world's Liquefied Natural Gas. Those two places are tailored to your needs, that of a small foreign investor. They have tourism and services oriented economies and you'll be better off over there. With that kind of money to invest (US$150,000) I'm pretty sure the GCC is well out of your ballpark though.
britexpat said
There is always scope. I ...There is always scope. I have a business plan to purchase a large number of KIAs and offer incentive for Landcruiser drivers to downsize in order to cut Co2 emissions and thus save the planet.
Perhaps you'd like to invest..???
crapcircle said
Hahaha ...If a Kia hearse were to drive me to my final resting place, I'm sure I'd rise up to the occasion and walk to my damn grave :)
heero_yuy2 said
LOL brit! ..."Everything in this book may be wrong." Illusions: The Adventures of The Reluctant Messiah by Richard Bach
qatarisun said
i can be KIA marketing ...i can be KIA marketing executive, brit.. am I hired?
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Gypsy said
Thank GOD! I hate Dubai. ...Thank GOD! I hate Dubai.
johnpur said
"then i cant leave the ..."then i cant leave the country unless i have an exit permit??!! wat do i do if i have emergency and my sponsor is not in the country?"
In the future, you will need a CID clearance to use the toilet and an exit permit to get out of that toilet....
malpaso said
brit ...dont be so rude to the poster !
:)
baloch said
dear if u have 500thousand ...dear if u have 500thousand invest this money in your country make ur country economy stronger
and pls no body compare Qatar wid UAE . With respect To Dubai Qatar Market is Larger Then Dubai and Bigger then Dubai yes i dont deny that dubai is open market but as my point of view Qatar is safer then Dubai in investment
warm_heart said
To crapcircle ...I'm not talking about myself only or about my capital, i'm talking in common, then to deal with residents in Qatar with a little respect to thier humanity it doesnt depend on being having much oil or gas on not having!
warm_heart said
? ...?
reemahf said
so where are you now warm ...so where are you now warm heart?
aftab.azam said
before investing you should ...before investing you should know the rules of country not after investing.
warm_heart said
? ...What if i want to enter Qatar now? Can my sponsor cancel my multiple exit which its already done (for 1 year)?
shoeaddict said
warm heart ...it would be in good gesture for you to save yourself from too much headache and invest your money somewhere else.
why hassle yourself?
bleu said
warm, You assume that the ...warm,
You assume that the "sponsor" is an evil person trying to get you.
warm_heart said
any plan for changes? ...Is there any plan or hope for changing the rules in Qatar for the residents? at least for the investors??
warm_heart said
day by day ...day by day i realize that qatar can never be like dubai nor bahrain, its easy to change the place but almost impossible to change the mentality of the ppl
PM said
You are assuming that Qataris want to change to be like Dubai ...And I don't believe they do. In fact, I suspect that most Qataris would like much stricter laws with regard to business ownership and partnership, and sponsorship laws. I think they expect to have a very strong advantage over any ex-pats here and if we the expatriates don't like it, they will probably be happy to wave goodbye to us at the airport.
I don't know what your specific problem is warm heart, but I wouldn't waste your time worrying about how Qatar's can't change their mentality to become like Bahrainis or Emiratis....
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
warm_heart said
PM ...I agree with you and you are right, but Qatar is loosing a lot even they think themselves clever and holding all the money, they hold 10 but loose 1000
bleu said
That's OK. ...That's OK.
shamils said
Its quite obvious you cannot ...Its quite obvious you cannot compare Qatar with UAE for some reason…and it never be.....
But you can save *** & ur money & multiply…. Give u an idea…
u was planning to open up a Filipino restaurant in Qatar & serve Filipino food ya?
Now think about other way…
Why don’t you go to Philippines & open up a restaurant to serve Arabic food to Philippines may be you can add Pilipino food as well.
U don’t have to apply for female visa’s.... no exit permit needed…. Have entertainment…. ++…
Vanessa02 said
i hate Qatar ...I hate Qatar and i love Dubai
Boston said
There ain't so much a ...There ain't so much a difference. Both are ruled by dictators, laws apply to foreigners, and Dubai has more shopping malls. What a choice.
"Real Love has no Enemies"
Default Nick said
What Goes Around Comes Around ...You are right about the strict rules. This country has strict rules. But nobody is forcing you to make investment here. This is all our choice in the end to work/make investment here.
For changing subject, maybe you are right that Qatar will not be like Dubai, but here the point is that do Qataris want to be like them or not. If they want to keep their culture in a conservative way, there is nothing to do with it for you. On the other hand if they want to be open to world (like trying to get olympics, trying to attract more tourists, trying to be education center) in one way or another they will have to change. If you do not have entertainment for students whether you will have the best schools or not you will not attract students here. If you do not let the people have fun, tourists will not visit here just for tall buildings, or you will not be able to get big sport events/Olympics (Maybe you will pay a lot of money for a friendly match between England vs Brazil but thats all). What goes around comes around. This will be only their decision. Again there is nothing to do with you.
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vander dick said
i agree with u ...Its a stupid answer to say (if u dont like this country dont invest here!!!)
shahzad_14 said
U r right BRO but what to do ...U r right BRO
but what to do if Some one does not have other option LIKE u have.
He has to stay here and follow all the (so called) rules n regulations to survive
sir dolly said
actually dubai is becoming like qatar!!!! ...cause dubai is on the downfall while qatar is peaking , so they'll meet somewhere in the middle....
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shahzad_14 said
niCE dollY ...niCE dollY
maurochiado said
well, if an expat wants to ...well, if an expat wants to invest here, but qataris don't need his money, that's a pity. If I will stay here for some years, I could be that guy.
bleu said
maurochiado, "need" is such ...maurochiado, "need" is such a hard word.
I'd say we may either not mind it, or not want it.
maurochiado said
bleu okay, I ...bleu okay, I understand.
There is nothing apart money that Qatar wants? There is no chanche for an expat to bring something good to this place?
Boston said
You are wrong, mauro! ...You are wrong, mauro!
novaboy said
sorry ...I am not interested in this tread, I will not comment :D
novaboy said
I am interested now ...Read news about Dubai
..You will not wish Qatar to be another Dubai
Naseebfinder said
I love Qatar. ...I love Qatar.
Default Nick said
Just been to Dubai for the eid holiday ...And you can not even compare Qatar and Dubai for social life. There are many things you can do while you are in Dubai which is making Dubai much more attractive place for me.
Furthermore, just the exit permit issue is enough to make me feel I am in jail here.
-Yes you can get multi but of course companies cant give every one multi exit. For example if I want to go Dubai, I can not make it spontaneously on a weekend I have to arrange it get an exit permit before and so on.
-Why do I have to get a permit from my sponsor to buy a car?
-Does government really need to know if I am going clubs by issuing a card for me?
Anyway there are many things bothering me but have some work, which is the reason that I am in Qatar, to do.
Cheers ya all
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PM said
mauro -- those are 2 different issues ...First you mention investing your money here as if that fills a Qatari need and bleu explained they don't have a strong need for outside investment at this point. Then you mentioned having something to contribute here and that is another matter altogether. While I have not invested money in Qatar, I have invested my time and talent through my work. I suspect in the long run that is more important than any amount of money I could invest here.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
freakysaf said
I LOVE QATAR ...I LOVE QATAR
bleu said
PM, I wouldn't say that, but ...PM, I wouldn't say that, but I'm sure that a regular moe would say that you got paid for your time and talent. :P
PM said
Just to be clear, I'm not complaining, bleu ...I am just stating that we all come here for a reason and mine was not to invest money but to invest my time and talent in something I think is worthwhile. I've received payment for it and don't feel that Qatar owes me anything :-)
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
bleu said
PM, LOL ...PM, LOL
maurochiado said
PM, I agree with you ...PM, I agree with you point.
I was just trying to extract my interest in investing here from a capitalistic point of view, that is, I would not do this just for the money itself, since I have always been more appreciated abroad than in Italy, and therefore I think I can give some of my effort back to a grateful country.
jasminejasmine said
I appreciate your ...I appreciate your frustration but surely Dubai could have done with being a little more cautious recently? I am not sure Qatar is hoping to be just like Dubai, particularly at the moment. Politically, qatar is heads and shoulders above the other Gulf States when dealing with the rest of the world and this seems to be more important to the current emir.
warm_heart said
still Dubai is better ...Dubai in its worst days is better than Qatar in its best days
bleu said
Then go there... ...Then go there...