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Under-skilled expatriates blamed for low output
Under-skilled expatriates blamed for low output rate in Qatar
A study has expressed concern over the declining productivity rates in Qatar, pointing out that the low man-hour output constitutes a major challenge to sustainable development in the country.
The study, which was issued by the Population Committee at the General Secretariat for Development Planning, said the average productivity per hour in Qatar had declined from 4.8% between 1990 and 2000 to 1.8% between 2000 and 2007, which the study blamed on the labour market policy.
“This is very low compared to what has been achieved by China (10.1%), Bahrain (5.13%), India (4.1%) and Oman (4.18%) in 2007,” the study said, citing findings of a report issued by the Conference Board, an international business and research organisation.
The study held the large numbers of the under-skilled expatriate workforce responsible for the low output per hour experienced by the country.
“What is alarming is that over half of the expatriate workforce (55.9%) are either uneducated or below secondary education level,” the study said.
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_noms_ said
Yet again expatriates are to ...Yet again expatriates are to be blamed !!!
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legal_pad said
We know for fact that most ...We know for fact that most of the construction labor workforce in Qatar are either uneducated or below secondary education level.
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nicaq25 said
well yeah, blame it on the expatriates ...what else is new?
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MagicDragon said
Why should expatriates be ...Why should expatriates be motivated and productive? It's not their country, they can't get citizenship. If Qatar wants to change this, they have to give all civil rights to the expatriates.
rj_sniper007 said
What about the guys who hand picked them?? ...they are in-part to be blame as well..
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britexpat said
I still don't see what the ...I still don't see what the study is trying to say ?
MagicDragon said
The study says that salaries ...The study says that salaries have to be doubled or tripled to attract educated expatriates, brit.
rj_sniper007 said
"which the study blamed on the labour market policy" ...are they referring to the Sponsorship system here in Qatar??
please forgive my ignorance :O(
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Gica Contra said
There are a lot of educated ...There are a lot of educated expatriates but they are loosing time on QL. MOD, just for test, close the site during normal working hours and than will check the productivity again! :)
MagicDragon said
Gica, 'educated' expatriates ...Gica, 'educated' expatriates can do both at the same time. It's the undereducated who can only either do QL or do their work!
vperez said
what about those ...what about those under-skilled and uneducated locals who are supposed to be the one making progress for their own country?
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mintus said
MAybe if the random 1 or two ...MAybe if the random 1 or two locals would spend more than a few hours a week in there workplace this may go up.
exiledsaint said
They should nationalise the ...They should nationalise the labour jobs and then the productivity will go up.
Nakamura said
I agree with exiledsaint ...I agree with exiledsaint
britexpat said
exiled.. ...The economies of the countries supplying the labour would be negatively affected..
exiledsaint said
That's not Qatar's problem. ...That's not Qatar's problem. Jobs for their citizens comes first.
PM said
You get what you pay for and deserve. ...I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
heero_yuy2 said
Let me rephrase that, PM ...You get what the non-Qatari sponsors pay for a deserve.
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rj_sniper007 said
heero_yuy2 ...i think it was
"you get paid for what you deserve"
if im not mistaken.
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the-birdie said
.... why they "discover" a scapegoat ?... ...the development history of Middle East countries shuld also be written with the sweat, tears & blood of expatriate labour. ( I used the word "also" ) .
let us think, how the home countries of these expatriates function.
whether it is India, Pakistan, Bangladesh....... to UK or US.. take any nation, the nationals in those countries were involved in the jobs "A" to "Z" grades.
let us imagine a scenario - where all the expatriates are driven back home. How these countries will survive ? Do these nationals really "work" ?
nomad_08 said
allow them to enter malls ...allow them to enter malls and souqs on Fridays and their output will increase.
PM said
Sorry, I meant: You get the kind of employees you pay for ...and deserve what you get. If you don't pay enough and provide good working and living conditions to attract and retain excellent employees then that is where the blame should be put.
I didn't drink the kool-aid! -- PM
rj_sniper007 said
PM ...nice clarification :)
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MagicDragon said
Exactly, PM. I work for ...Exactly, PM. I work for 25.000 and Einstein would have asked for 250.000. That's why they have to have crap like me.
PM said
Yeah, rj, I realized I forgot the "nd" for "and" -- lol ...I was still half asleep but realized it needed some clarification.
Actually I think Qatar is fortunate that even in cases where people are paid peanuts and have horrible living conditions, most still do their jobs pretty well. I guess it is not as much "output" as you would get with slaves, though... :-/
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britexpat said
I wonder how they calculate ...I wonder how they calculate the "Manhour output" ??
I mean how does a mnhour output of a road surfacer compare to one of a manufacturing plant worker in China ?
blueRoSe said
there must be a big ...there must be a big mistake...shouldn't it be the other way around???
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can & the wisdom to know d difference.
Alumnar said
Review everything! ...Pay skilled workforce decent salaries. Invest in training programs. Don't overwork and underpay them. Use incentives and show them appreciation. Give them proper accomodation and allowances so they can eat enough to be able to work properly... and I could go on and on here.
It would be nice to see how Qatar would do with local people only doing all the jobs for a year. Can a country go bankrupt? If not the case, it can sure be CHAOS!
stevethetyke said
Depends upon what they were ...Depends upon what they were producing (construction wise) between 1990 and 2000. I hear all the major developments here are fairly recent.
Alumnar said
And those... ...... who sell Visas to people so they can work for whoever they want? For how many times more the price then it costs them?
This is the future and the way to be? For me it only has one name:
SLAVERY!!!
UkEngQatar said
This will only change when ...This will only change when the locals start to lead by example and do some work too?
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flanostu said
survey must've been ...survey must've been conducted in a bank.
azilana7037 said
hmmm...55.9% are underskilled/below secondary level education ...contributes to the low productivity output rate...really???
And the 44.1% NON-expatriates busts their butts working? whehehehe....thanks for making me laugh...
sMaRt_iDiOt said
under-skilled locals made ...under-skilled locals made this survey. Sorry.. not my intention to offend.
Gypsy said
It is the expatriates, ...It is the expatriates, however it's the locals fault for hiring uneducated, inexperienced expatriates and paying them nothing and not demanding that they get proper training before they throw them out onto construction sites. You get what you pay for is all I say.
JaCo said
smart_idiot ...that made me lol.
you get what you paid for (duh)! highly skilled professionals for less than qr1,000/month? yeah right.
sun26872 said
Discrimination and ...Discrimination and corruption is the major cause of low productivity.......and everyone knows it.
Are you nuts?......no doubt I am crazy about you!
angel16 said
whos the most populated expat here? ...they must reduce them,or remove those unskilled workers...
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ angel16...FYI,there .../-a-t-/ angel16...FYI,there are unqualified people of almost EVERY major nationality in this country doing jobs they've never done in their live in postions of authority & who've got those jobs by means other than the fact that they actually deserve it,don't know which expat group you're referring to here but irrespective of that,what you should be saying is remove ALL unskilled/unqualified people IRRESPECTIVE of nationality...
exiledsaint said
Chuck in corruption as well ...Chuck in corruption as well and that also affects productivity... look at the roads for example...
stealth said
They didn't say anything ...They didn't say anything about corruption right.
SHAJIV said
I am wondering!!!!!! ...Is the productivity wholly depends on labors only??????? i don't think so!
rj_sniper007 said
Alexa ...totally agree with you. the Sheikhs are probably not even aware that this is happening.
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alrama_s said
this is the formula.... ...1. expat + small salary = small work
2. local + big salary = small work
so what's the difference between expatriates and local. they must not blame it all to expatriates....
please review again the study you are telling to all of us......tnx...
"always be sincere even when you don't mean it"...
nicaq25 said
don't get affected ...nothing to do with being un-skilled.
Did they say; professional? or non-professional expatriates?
It said only: “What is alarming is that over half of the expatriate workforce (55.9%) are either uneducated or below secondary education level,” the study said.
Well, are you one of the above?
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SHAJIV said
To nicaq25!!!!!!!!!!! ...For sure, these two category people will not work as CEO or MD, (either uneducated or below secondary education level,”) they must be working as labors of different level. What it means then?
nicaq25 said
shajiv - are U shouting? ...do u think this study is fair enough with you? Because in my perspective although me & you do not belong to the unskilled labor force as what they mean here, the word 'expatriates' generally covers almost all foreign workers here and comprise the workforce of Qatar. Blaming expatriates not fair though.
http://rakabayan.web...
gtim said
You've got the point ...You've got the point Vperez... should not blamed it to expat workers. In the 1st place they should upgrade their hiring system... screen the applicants, hire the qualified and give the right compensation and benefits. But what i observed is the other way, they are hiring the unskilled and uneducated workers coz they want to pay them less and save money...
Don Robert said
skilled expatriates chatting ...skilled expatriates chatting in QL instead of working should be the one to be blamed for low output...Thank you
"Do not do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you(Wag kang gay-an, kung mang gagay-an ka, wag gay-on)"
nicaq25 said
don't u think that includes you? ...Don Robert..LOL!
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Gica Contra said
Don, read my previous ...Don, read my previous post....you copycat! :)
dq said
www.qatarjobcenter.c... ...www.qatarjobcenter.c...
Don Robert said
I'm sorry Gica, not ...I'm sorry Gica Contra, not interested.
"Do not do unto others what you don't want others to do unto you(Wag kang gay-an, kung mang gagay-an ka, wag gay-on)"
Gica Contra said
Why I'm not surprised? ...Why I'm not surprised?
mangkepweng said
lol ...low salary
less production
high salary
higher production
eaglemmanuel said
mkweng, some companies have ...mkweng, some companies have it the other way around - Low salary, high production, high salary, sitting on a***!!
This survey also conducted in a bank :P
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