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baldrick2dogs said
Be careful ... a lot of the ...Be careful ... a lot of the firemen out here are Pinoy!!!
gadarene said
They have the ...They have the equipment...just haven't a clue how to use it...(the manufacturer forgot to enclose an arabic translation of the instruction manual...not that it would help much but still.)
MagicDragon said
Imagine what can happen if ...Imagine what can happen if they get a nuclear powerplant in the Gulf!
Raven1968 said
Monty Python could make a ...Monty Python could make a great movie about this dumbass country!!
MagicDragon said
Yes, he could, Raven. But ...Yes, he could, Raven. But then the diplomatic ties between Qatar and UK would be tampered. I don't think he will be allowed to do that.
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ MagicDragon...a .../-a-t-/ MagicDragon...a nuclear power plant without the instruction manual in Arabic,now there's a real problem..."should i flick the red switch or the blue one?...eenie meenie minee moe...ok blue it is...oops"...
timebandit said
It didn't look that small to ...It didn't look that small to me. And with the types of fabric in there I am guessing it was very toxic. From the pictures I can see they could only attack it from either end, with no way of getting at it from the sides, and only appeared to have one ladder pump when they could have done with more to attack it from above.
Risky business fire fighting you know. Perhaps they don't have the same quality of training as some countries, but if I needed them, I would still be very glad to see these boys.
MagicDragon said
gadarene, in the summer it's ...gadarene, in the summer it's the red one, in the winter it's the blue one. Confusing?
Dali said
MD, but ahhhhhh thats the ...MD, but ahhhhhh thats the beauty of the independant Media,plus MOnty would make a hellova lot of money doing so. I adore Monty Python , just imagine how Cleese would have a feild day imitating them LOL
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Nic said
What you witnessed and what ...What you witnessed and what the papers say are 2 different stories and that is what Qatar is all about!
Arabic translation of the operation manuals doesn’t do the job by itself!
MagicDragon said
I wonder how he would ...I wonder how he would describe the Industrial Area. Always look on the bright side of life, doo, doo..?
Dali said
Hahaha Nice one ...Hahaha Nice one gadarene!
Regarding the fire, I was irked too, it raged from midday into the evening! I mean honestly what are they going to do when one of the shiny buildings breakes into flames?
Unless off course they have a different VIP firefighting force for that ;)
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
timebandit said
Good one Dali, I liked the ...Good one Dali, I liked the VIP bit, good observation lol
MagicDragon said
The movie "Inferno" clearly ...The movie "Inferno" clearly shows that even the Americans cannot handle such a fire.
Dali said
I think its a capital ...I think its a capital idea!
We ought to get royalties from Monty, after all who better to furnish with facts than us!
We are bonified sources and referances on the matter.
lol
who knows maybe when the movie is out and we've had a good belly laugh, they just may realise that the HAVE to work on the roads here :)
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Dali said
MD, nope we can't, we have ...MD, nope we can't, we have people in office that are dedicated to starting them...indirectly LOL
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
MagicDragon said
But you have Charlton ...But you have Charlton Heston! And that makes a difference, Dali. (Is your first name Salvatore?)
Arien said
Sardars would have been a ...Sardars would have been a better bet. THose Sardars who found and digged out 500 bodies when a two seater plane crashed at the CEMETERY. :)
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Dali said
The Monty sequel shouldn't ...The Monty sequel shouldn't be a problem either
Scene opening with camera slowly zooming in on Cleese the local 'official'
His face blank as he picks up the phone and says in a thick accent
"I donno what is wrong with these bebole, why they dont abbreciate owarrr money we to give tham???? okay okay khalas, we will fix tha road, but make sure you use my brathar constracting combany this time"
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Dali said
MD, indeed it is Salvatore ...MD, indeed it is Salvatore and my mustache is pointy and alert lol
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
Dali said
*chuckle* AND we can premier ...*chuckle* AND we can premier the movie here at the Doha Tribeca film festival!
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
MagicDragon said
I need a break. ...I need a break.
Dali said
MD, from work, from QL, from ...MD, from work, from QL, from Qatar? please define :)
NUCLEAR WEAPONS: IF AMERICA AND ISRAEL CAN HAVE THEM - THEN SO SHOULD IRAN.
zthman said
bbreaking news ...other fire start at Al Helal Petrol statation
mjamille28 said
was it a fire or just a ...was it a fire or just a collapsed roof as what was said on the other thread?
LadyChaRM said
3 people died on that fire. :( ...FIRE MAN really Sucks!!!
---"The best thing to do with the best things in life is to give them up."---
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ Nic,i was being .../-a-t-/ Nic,i was being sarcastic mate! :).../-a-t-/ timebandit,..."this man speaks an alien language,he says 'quality' & 'training',what do those words mean?"...
jassKat said
I saw the fire in person, ...I saw the fire in person, and what the firemen had to deal with was not just an easy job. There were no access roads to get to the heart of the fire, and the heat was intense (like curl your eyelashes intense!).
The fact that the fire did not spread and was contained in just a small area of the souq shows the hard work and the good job they did. It could have been a lot worse with all those stores and buildings connected. It was really windy which made matters worse, but they were able to put out the fire with minimal damage. It could have been a huge disaster. Before you criticize them, why don't you try doing their job for a day?
and mjamille28- it certainly was a huge fire not a collapsed roof
tra la la
mjamille28 said
3 people died? i thought ...3 people died? i thought there were no casualties.. they really need to set their record straight..
LadyChaRM said
yes MJ 3 Pinoy died on that Fire :( ...--"The best thing to do with the best things in life is to give them up."---
mjamille28 said
sad... ...sad...
sultan al-sultan said
To the all stubbed Indian in Qatar ...If you want to talk about any think in Qatar be careful what you say again think what you are before you came her
nicaq25 said
so there were casulaties? who can confirm that? ...today there is a warning:
carlitos said
dear Sultan ...Well say, and by the way...how and where they get driving licences..
sultan al-sultan said
dear carlitos ...they don't stay in car befor,i want to ask if he Bike ride?
Alumnar said
Carlitos.... ...... driving licenses come from raffle tickets :) so if you buy many, you have a better chance to win! ;) LOL!
sultan al-sultan said
dear Alumnar ...Same people they forget what they're before!
Nic said
gadarene, I know you were ...gadarene,
I know you were being sarcastic. I just added a bit more into it because I like your sarcasm!
Nic said
It is incredible and a sure ...It is incredible and a sure reflection of ignorance (from where comes racism), how certain creature’s think that certain nationalities are not entitled to have and express their opinions!
Nic said
nicaq25, If that warning / ...nicaq25,
If that warning / threat is real, it shows how pathetic the officials, who published that, are.
A society cannot be treated as kids are in kindergartens!
Ice Maiden said
Better training for ...Better training for personnel might have helped.
But consider circumstances...the narrow streets, the back to back souqs, add to that the old design of the buildings, along with flammable materials inside...we have to accept that it was a difficult task. So lets be grateful that the firemen atleast tried to do a good job.
nicaq25 said
in fairness to the firefighters & officials ...who were there battling their lives with these fires, let's just be thankful. We who sits here & only comment, please try to be considerate sometimes.
da_vinchi said
timebandit ...????
da_vinchi said
firemem??? ...Qatar firemen lucks of training and don't know how to utilized equipment. Imagine, a firemen putting out a fire with his little water coming out from his fire hose???? what a D**** fireman... DOESN'T THINK....
nicaq25 said
by the way - ...shouldn't each store must be equipped with fire extinguishers? What happened to those? Were they able to utilize the thing before the flame grow big?
Well, I'm sure these coming days, civil defense authority will likely be more stricter to implement it & probably will go house to house to check them.
sultan al-sultan said
to da_vinchi ...Next time will bring Philippines fireman
Nic said
I have seen a similar ...I have seen a similar pathetic attempt to put off a fire in Villagio a few weeks after it opened. The fire started in a shop. A very small localized fire turned in to chaos, due to lack of procedures and training. Everybody was running in all directions and not even the public was kept away.
It was a pathetic display of organizational skills... unfortunately common in this very young country.
sultan al-sultan said
to Nic ...if the not organizational in the "very young country" you can back to your (very old country)
Alpha_Wolf said
Just Imagine a tower on fire ...Surely will end in disaster
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Nic said
Sultan, If all foreigners ...Sultan,
If all foreigners follows your advise, who is going to run your entire nation?
(no need to answer)
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ sultan al .../-a-t-/ sultan al sultan...you ever been to India? because quite clearly,to you,ALL Indians are labour/low office worker class,well think again my friend...as for fires,come to India & i'll show you how real firefigters with half the equipment these clowns have here fight real fires...as for what i was before i came here...answer is simple,much happier with a better quality of life...why am i here? beacause your country has plenty of money to offer but no or hardly any educated qualified people in any field to do the job so they offer huge sums of money tax free to exapts because that is the ONLY way those people from 'stubbed India' & the rest of the world would give up so much in terms of quality of life to come here...i'm here for your tax free money because you my friend can't do the job i'm doing,that's why i'm here...understand?...
janeyjaney said
The location of the fire ...The location of the fire yesterday is just a few blocks away from our office. So, I can say that I saw it all. It started at around half past ten in the morning and yes, it was only a small fire. There was only 1 firetruck taking care of it but then eventually the fire spread rapidly. It is true that one of it was a textile shop that's why it was quite difficult to keep the fire from spreading.
By the time I was about to leave the office, that was at around 6pm, there were still smoke coming out of the buildings. I can remember seeing grey, black and white smoke coming out off it.
I think that if they could've have sent more firetrucks to help put out the fire, it could've been more helpful. But then again, you can see the water was just aimed at the smoke and not even on the base of the fire. I'm no fireman, but I know that if you're trying to put off a fire, you should aim on the base as well. Apparently, there were far from doing that.
The internet is our revenge machine
sultan al-sultan said
to gadarene ...i understand.Why you angry? Becouse I talked about your country. Back to your first answer
gadarene said
i ain't no fireman ...i ain't no fireman either...but i do know that most of those textile shops in the souq stock polyster blended cotton & polyster is a highly flammable material,was there or should there have been any doubt that unless the blaze was tackled VERY quickly with multiple fire engines that the fire would spread VERY rapidly?...it's not rocket science is it?...
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ sultan, i stated a .../-a-t-/ sultan, i stated a reality,if you took offence,i apologize...
Bluecrash said
Offensive! ...It is really offensive to say,"Why are you working here if you don't like here so what, GO!" It is based on facts that Qatar is being dominated by foreign skilled labourers due to inefficient or incapacity of the country for Manpower supply. Whereas, majority of Qatari citizens are in pedestal level. And yet they don't need to work because they can pay. The one thing that is very idiotic notion is most Qatari people are so defensive with its own flaws. Maybe the one thing that they should say is " we appreciate your comments or any violent re-actions" because it is true. Am I right? Every people in the world Qatar sucks! Please visit www.qatarsucks.com
sultan al-sultan said
to gadarene ...if you are not happy just go back to where you came
Bluecrash said
Sultan calm down... ...My friend, we understand your sentiments over negative feedback against your lovely country. But we should remember that some of their comments are true. We are happy with our salary here but we are not happy with the type of social living here. But of course, we can't blame anyone even you because no one would like to be like this. The one thing is for sure, you need improvement - socially!
gadarene said
/-a-t-/ sultan,that answer .../-a-t-/ sultan,that answer makes no sense & has no meaning whatsoever,as Nic has already stated above,if that is your answer to every foreigner/expat in this country & hypothetically,say we all do actually leave...who's going to run your country mate?...
carlitos said
dear Bluecrash.. ...Perfection doesn't exist, and i can give you dozens of examples about shitty things in my own country, as you can do probably about yours...
Give time to time and things will improve naturally..
Bluecrash said
Temporary>>> ...We should stick in our thoughts, that everything here is ephimeral. Meaning not permanent. Foreign workers herein Qatar are not for so long of living or working. Of course we will go, who doesn't want to go out of your lovely country. But, you should be thankful because we have a big contribution for what you were saying "miracle of Qatar". Expat has a huge or tremendous help to make that miracle of Qatar happens! you should think that, Qatar!
Bluecrash said
Anyways!!! ...Maybe Sultan is emotionally offended the we comment about their lovely country, but Carlitos has point, as times go by, Qatar will grow and improve. Maybe not totally all but in most important sector of living.
sultan al-sultan said
to all ...Weird be polite
Bluecrash said
OK! ...Ok, mashallah. We are hoping that someday if I will return back to your lovely country, I could say, ah! what a beautiful experience in Qatar! Is it good right!
momo1962 said
no ...No .. I don't agree ...
they are doing more than their best and they are equipped well ...
better to use suitable expressions when addressing the people risking their lives for our saftiness ..
if we don't know better to keep quite ..
garnet06ph said
I think there is no kabayan ...I think there is no kabayan fireman here hehehe, filipino firemen are the best, with all the fire experiences back in Phils.
Shyatap!!!
bryxz said
For da_vinchi ...Do you know all the details about shutting off a fire? Do you know that they may used base foams or others chemicals which is 4 times than the usual water can do and it depends on the materials source of fire. I've seen that place. Its full of garments and looks confined space. It is very difficult for the fireman to go inside. Garments are just like rubbers that even it melts the fire is still on it. Try to think of it even if you have all the PPE's but still you cannot do more inside coz of the small walkways. Pare wag mo namin sirain ang moral ng mga Pilipino sa mga comments mo.
**Firemans - Guys you did well!
sultan al-sultan said
to all ...I am not racial, but the "gadarene" answer Provocative about the firmen.you can say any think but don't reduce the respect any person
Nic said
bryxz, that brings even more ...bryxz,
that brings even more accountability for the Authorities, for the current poor safety and fire standards in Qatar, hence a great opportunity for a so needed huge improvement!!!
carlitos said
to all.. ...I leave in a new building and authorities did 3 separate fire inspection in the building, one on alarm system, one tecnical and one separate for underground car park, so i think that they are improving standards and methods, the reason is probably to much new construction at same time that they dont have time to check the old ones...
gadarene said
to quote ...to quote Col.Nathan.R.Jessep(Jack Nicholson) from A few good men:- "you want the truth?...you can't handle the truth."...apt under the circumstances me thinks...
bryxz said
Carlitos.. ...I definitely agree.
carlitos said
pffff ...I read my previous comment bouahhhh so bad english, time to leave from here...
sorry to all of you.....
sultan al-sultan said
to all ...QATAR in my eyes and my hart
sultan al-sultan said
time to go ...time to go now
thanks for same
da_vinchi said
???? ...???
da_vinchi said
thanks guys... ...hey guys.. thanks for your comment and reply.. anyway, the reasons i post this because i just want to know the side of other people.. But still, the QATAR FIREMEN did their best to put out the fire.. They did their best and NO ONE hurt during the fire incidents....
Bluecrash said
KUDOS QATAR! ...Ok Kudos QATAR u did well to contain the fire. Hope much better you showed out. Ok . Let us finish this. Maassalamah!
Eve said
Poor Maintenance ...You see it all over Qatar buildings are poorly maintained and equipment is old and in bad shape, given they said it was an Air conditioner that caused the fire either the electric wiring was not up to code or it was old and not maintained. I think we need better standards of code enforcement and inspection processes! I guess wasta is working too well. Also, shop keepers store goods in ways that are unsafe as well, many times stocking so much its hard to move in the store.
nicaq25 said
baldrick - ...are you sure many pinoy firemen in Doha? I don't think so. Maybe in EMS many of them I believe.
archjohndoe said
Fireman in Qatar ...Fireman in Qatar are most Arabic speaking people. But the fire engineers most philipino, singapore, australia. The fireman all arabic speaking, maybe the fireman still need to learn and have no actual experience so very slow action as some noticed. It will take time and more experience before fireman learn, that;s if they really want to learn.
archjohndoe said
Bluecrash... your are right ...Bluecrash... your are right that everything here is temporary. This not our country, most people here only work for money. But when evertything we aim is acheived we will all go back to our beloved country. I hope by then Qatr can stand on their own feet. There's no place like home shall i say
archjohndoe said
Prove first to the world ...Prove first to the world that Iran is responsible enough to have this technology. They are very open in saying that they will destroy Israel. Imagine what they can do if they have this technology.
archjohndoe said
oh really is this what ...oh really is this what happened? if that's the case then what are the fireman doing all the time. there's not always fire in qatar, maybe they should always be on training. just a query not alegation!!
Eve said
Qatar is new ...Qatar is a new country with new technology so just like every country it takes time to work through its growing pains. Hopefully they will build water tanks near to commercial areas so they can have water to put out fires more readily. I think transporting water to the fires also makes the putting out more difficult it has time to grow! Even in the mtns in America we have to have underground reserves to fight forest fires.
mr_qatar said
obviosly ...indeed qatar iz a rich country & they ve a latest technology equipments but da prblm iz da illiterate & untrained fire fighters..wen u c them u will b shockd t8 they r small kids..most of them r under 20...
"War is not fought to determin who is right, only who is left".
jasminejasmine said
Can you imagine any other ...Can you imagine any other country where a relatively small fire would be commented on by so many people? For goodness sake, this is a country with only one city, it is easy to get things out of perspective. I can't think why so many people live here, so much of the time isolated incidents such as a fire, being hassled, shock horror a purse being stolen (when actually it turned out she had left it on the counter, something the poster forgot to add to his initial post) are treated as everyone's business and of national importance. I am not saying that those who lose their lives, their homes and their families don't have my full sympathy but stuff happens. It happens in Qatar, the rest of the Gulf, Europe, US Asia etc etc etc. I know where I feel safest for sure.
spybot said
baldrick2dogs said ...Be careful ... a lot of the ...
Be careful ... a lot of the firemen out here are Pinoy!!!
So plz tell what this means....my saying goes like this...if u can't do the job get the hell out....but no they will not cause they have been getting away with it all along and it all boils down 2 cheap labour....fireman with teaching diploma's or so they say....o yes I know u can get a diploma ithin 6mnths in certain parts of the world....and now they fireman...and they know jack....sad but true....and the sad part of it all is they r suppose 2 protect others...what a joke....they say pay peanuts u get monkey's.....hahahaha
spybot said
timebandit said It didn't look that small to ... ...timebandit said It didn't look that small to ...
I do agree it wasn't small but, if u don't have the know how u will end up with big disasters......O brother what has the fabric got 2 do with it I laugh at toxic...hahaha....that is why they have breathing apparatus to over come that.....oooops I 4got they have no idea how 2 use it....I would think twice b4 I use them....
spybot said
jassKat said I saw the fire in person, ... ...O believe u me I have done there job and u know what they know shyte