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Alexa said
So true. "Oh....just fark ...So true.
"Oh....just fark off...please"
t_coffee_or_me said
MODS are immune ...MODS are immune
Dracula said
Thanks adey. ...Thanks adey.
sandeepkadian said
adey great post man :) "Only ...adey great post man :)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Alexa said
No tcom...they are not ...No tcom...they are not immune...but I can;t really say WHAT they are.....;)
"Oh....just fark off...please"
MagicDragon said
This website mirrors the ...This website mirrors the morbid society in Qatar which is full of lies and double standards!
"Love Me or Leave Me"
(MagicDragon)
DaRuDe said
Welcome to Qatarliving ...adeeeeey.
adey said
Even Airsupply coming back ...would be an improvement.....at least he had something to say.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
rein said
very well said.. "Light ...very well said..
"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak."
azilana7037 said
hit the nail on the head, adey... ...I agree....
Alexa said
adey...yes,,,even airsupply ...adey...yes,,,even airsupply would be huge improvement...or, dare I say it...MYSTICA.....looool
We might have to rally the troops....for a big bash to put QL into its grave.....
"Oh....just fark off...please"
adey said
You're welcome drac :) ...Darude - even you don't post much on here much anymore.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
stealth said
thats because many have got ...thats because many have got their arms twisted.
Well I know some of the posters here were behind Airsupply getting banned. Now they themselves are shouting that their friends are getting banned. Poetic justice eh??
Did the nationalities of the Mods change recently? There has been a coup of somewhat in QL for such a radical change.
Alexa said
Lucky me...none of my ...Lucky me...none of my friends got banned....they just left....for obvious reasons...
"Oh....just fark off...please"
adey said
Stealth ...My conscience is clear - I've never asked for anyone to be banned.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
adey said
Anyway stealth ...This is not about what the opinions are....it's about being allowed to express them and their quality.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
snessy said
Well said! I'm a newbie, ...Well said! I'm a newbie, but I've noticed a huge difference in just a few weeks.
adey said
Alexa ...Same here.....Posters on my friends list have just left, none were banned.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
stealth said
Adey I know that. I am not ...Adey I know that. I am not blaming you for it. Its just the pious attitude taken by some of the posters here that make me laugh at the irony here.
I have been here almost the same time as you have been. maybe a few months more. I am not taking sides here.
I know some got banned, some left the forum on their own, some got hounded out by the MAFIA that is here while some left the country itself.
Well when the population grows, all sorts of characters start turning up destroying the tranquility.
exiledsaint said
hear hear.... The Mods are ...hear hear....
The Mods are over vicious and even delete posts they do not understand and the religious dictators try to cower everybody into silence if they do not agree with their views..... kindly like the society outside...
sandeepkadian said
ES i got 4 threads deleted ...ES i got 4 threads deleted today and none of them even mentioned the word religion :(
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
adey said
ES ...I was also prompted to post this thread as in Australia they had a 'Festival of Dangerous Ideas'
Something of an anathama to the prevailing winds on QL of late.
Just for you here is what I was watching, its in twelve parts.......starts here at Part two(don't ask why)
http://www.youtube.c...
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
stealth said
the deletion of threads i ...the deletion of threads i think is a new phenomenon. Earlier you could see removed by mod.
sandeepkadian said
My threads simply ...My threads simply disappeared stealth..
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
FranElizabeth said
Adey ...Spot on.. as always.
genesis said
well said adey ...I've been wondering myself the past few days,what's going on QL lately?
I think this is done on purpose by some of the regulars here whom immigrated
To that boring new forum. When will they ever admit, There is only 1 Ql.
No matter how many times they've tried creating new forums to compete,it always
Fails.
britexpat said
Adey.. ...Agree with you. The problem is that most are not willing to debate. They would rather abuse.
On the other hand, I must admit that the same old topics from the same authors do get a bit wearsome.
Dracula said
I LOVE QL! ..and I'll not ...I LOVE QL!
..and I'll not stop to post my crazy threads!
btw..do you want a free ticket to Madonna's Concert tomorrow?
I have few extra! :)
sandeepkadian said
Drac I still get requests ...Drac I still get requests from people asking to join my religion so that concert is nothing in comparison :)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
exiledsaint said
People either love my stuff ...People either love my stuff or I get death threats.... either way its all the same to me...
Dracula said
exiledsaint , sandeep ...I really enjoy your threads!
Keep it coming! :)
exiledsaint said
Being undead you really ...Being undead you really should be the person who gives me death threats, but all my death threats come from the living. No matter I will meet them in hell and beat them at bacarac....
sandeepkadian said
ES you are the best... I ...ES you are the best... I wish I had the same wisdom..
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
adey said
Uh-Oh ...It's turned into a love-in!
:P
Put me down for a cuddle.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Dracula said
Gooood boy! :) ...Gooood boy! :)
Happy Happy said
Adey...No one is dying...:) ...Correction, Adey, QL curve has been declining for a few months now, but would you please help me understand how this is a QL mods issue?
It's very normal with QL's increasing popularity, more members will subscribe and dozens will come and go. We may consider it a seasonal change of skin.
Let's stay focused on the long term goal of QL, despite of all seizures, hiccups and chokes..:) Ain't dying. Nope.
Salam
exiledsaint said
Well it seems only the ...Well it seems only the reasonable, witty or nice people have commented on this thread. Someone chuck in a Indians are dirty and Filipinas are all prostitutes and then it should get back to normal....
sandeepkadian said
lol adey, you are the best ...lol adey, you are the best too (wink)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
truthfulvisitor said
very eloquent posting ...Excellently written.
Haven't you noticed that censors are happy to celebrate the banal and leave the real issues out? Pick up any of the Qatari newspapers, you'll see what I mean.
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"let's slip out of these wet clothes and into a dry martini" Mae West
chinx_lady said
bullseye!thanx adey. ...bullseye!thanx adey.
Stone Cold said
Great Adey. Lets ressurrect ...Great Adey. Lets ressurrect these good old debates in these good old days
adey said
Happy Happy ...Well, and this is my opinion only, the mods are too quick to remove or delete posts on any whim -they are playing it safe in case, gawd forbid, that any little sensitive souls get their feelings bruised.
There are enough people on here who can beat down the 'haters' with reasoned, well crafted and bullsh*t cutting arguments.....we don't need mods censoring what THEY think is too disturbing for MY delicate ears.
We do a better job of putting those people in their place than the mods because they always lose the argument, by deleting threads they are given the impression that they have won and can only be silenced by censorship. Once someone has their post censored it builds resentment and they keep coming back with the same crap.
Basically censorship leads to mediocre sites.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
ajinpt said
Well Said Adey, I really ...Well Said Adey, I really appreciate it.But I'm not sure how many of them are REALLY willing to stop hijacking threads or seeing it as just another chatter box. That may be because of the connections and friendships most of 'em enjoy through this "virtual" platform, where one loves his best friends' MASK rather than the real him or her. Anyways, I guess, may be we should think about the possibilities of a chat box too.
Just my opinion!
---If you can't CONVINCE 'em, CONFUSE 'em!!!
sandeepkadian said
Bang on adey... Man you are ...Bang on adey... Man you are smart ;)
Seriously that's what I was trying to tell the mods yesterday but as I am on last warning I guess i should not explain any more, they will delete my profile soon..
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
adey said
Sandeep ...No, I'm Sparticus! lol
......and the devil incarnate :0
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Happy Happy said
Adey..I'm with you, but none of us is responsible? ...I look at it from another angle, I'm not dismissing your opinion, but my read is that "most" regular QLers think they own QL and have been treating newcomers in a ridiculous childish manner. They're supposed to partially cater for those seeking assistance, instead they partnered in making QL a hotbed for very nasty personal attacks, they should know better?
Awaiting your feedback..
Salam
sandeepkadian said
happy happy ( why are you so ...happy happy ( why are you so greedy, can't you be happy just once :P ) I was always treated with respect by the old members here, I am fairly new. What I learnt was if you post sensible stuff, they will like you and if you act as an idiot they tell it to your face.. I think it's fair.. Apart from one old QLer, nobody has ever been rude to me without reason..
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
adey said
Happy Happy ...I could not respectfully disagree with you more.
The old guard, to use a phrase, are leaving; I have not seen them making nasty personal attacks....it seems to be the 'new wave' that are using this site to stir up trouble, personally attack others and generally troll about.
"Deaths in the Bible. God - 2,270,365
not including the victims of Noah's flood, Sodom and Gomorrah, or the
many plagues, famines, fiery serpents, etc because no specific numbers
were given. Satan - 10."
Happy Happy said
sandeepkadian ... ...Well, I'm not sure why your threads have been deleted, but mods clearly still like you as you're still here with us.
As for me being greedy..:) oh well, happiness isn't what I'm seeking, it's not fulfilling by itself, contentment is...
Salam
aviduser said
agreed ...Don't often agree with most people on this site but frankly it's hey day was about 18 months ago when there seemed to be sensible vigorous debate.
To be honest now it's only really useful for the classifieds and even that's prone to abuse.
It made it to 4 years old so that in it's self is to be congratulated but to be honest I am pretty sure if you deleted the forum and kept the classified section just about as many people would visit.
xxxxxxxxx.com also has a MUCH better property section where people actually seem to be able to post photos.
I have to say this if you are an agent and you can't even post a picture on the internet you are a moron of the highest order and I WILL NEVER RING YOU ABOUT A PROPERTY. As I imagine mobile phones probably worry u in their complexity.
Back to topic :) Qatarliving died 18 months-2 years ago and it's never been the same since.
sandeepkadian said
Atleast taking your full ...Atleast taking your full name makes me happy :)
So stay happy happy happy, man too many happy around ;)
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former." - Albert Einstein
Happy Happy said
adey, ...Collective Responsibility ...Very good point, in agreement 100%, but honestly, I think regular long term Qlers are the ones playing a major role in blowing it out of propotion with identified "revived IDs", don't they know how to ignore?
Maybe you've been away, but we've been in this spiral of personal attacks for month(S). We all need to learn it's a collective responsibility, as long as we're sharing one community.
Salam
azilana7037 said
aviduser...gone were those days ...and it won't be the same...
Alexa said
aviduser, please let me know ...aviduser, please let me know about xxxxxxxxx.......thank you.
"Oh....just fark off...please"
stealth said
aviduser, congrats for ...aviduser, congrats for promoting another site here even though it is masked
Happy Happy said
aviduser...You have to see past this phase ...I consider QL, all in all, as a positive initiative. QL's goal is noble, let's remember this isn't a chat website, it is serving as a permanent database and is documenting a lot of unknown aspects about Qatar.
Yes, there are other similar initiatives, and I salute them all because Qatar needs all of them.
Would someone be a little positive and constructive? we're all leaving, Qatar Living should remain among other Qatari forums!
Salam
t_coffee_or_me said
One fine day people will ask ...One fine day people will ask what is QL
Dracula said
"fine day"???? ..."fine day"????
MagicDragon said
Wrong, t_coffee. They will ...Wrong, t_coffee. They will ask "what was QL?"
"Love Me or Leave Me"
(MagicDragon)
t_coffee_or_me said
lol thanks for the ...lol thanks for the correction of the past tense
MagicDragon said
Most welcome, TCOM. "Love Me ...Most welcome, TCOM.
"Love Me or Leave Me"
(MagicDragon)
Ice Maiden said
Been on reading mode for ...Been on reading mode for quite a while & its sad that its come to this.
The death throes of a once great site.
Maybe it's time to do a "clean up with the mop", to borrow Obama's expression.
svelte_saggi said
i don't think it's actually ...i don't think it's actually dying.maybe people have gotten more sensible or they have grown sick of posting and replying to hate threads.dunno what happened....but i'm finding QL a much safer and fun place to be in now as compared to the fiery and dangerous place it earlier was.
Going to church no more makes you a Christian than standing in a garage makes you a car. ~ Garrison Keillor
aviduser said
I say kill the forum ...And turn the site into classifieds only.
I didn't know we could not post other web address so this might work.
[Deleted by Mod: If you wish to advertise a website please you can do so by visiting this page:
http://www.qatarlivi...
Do NOT post such adverts to the Forum, Classifieds, your user signature or avatar or any other section of this site. This applies to the promotion of any websites or forums similar in nature to Qatar Living.]
I actually have no clue what all this other fuss is about on here as I don't actually visit or read many threads.
In the old days you could wind people up for days on end about religion or some other rubbish and people would all go mental and it was quite good fun.
I can't be bothered to do that nowadays.
To be honest the less I hear and know and think about Qatar the better, I really don't like being reminded of all the small mindedness that goes on here so not reading this site helps that. So i probably should not post any more too huh :)
the-birdie said
........as MD says, it shows the morbid society of Qatar..... ...when I participated a discussion, I created a hue & cry..Lol..
all were thirsty for my blood
But I do wish to participate such discussions, rather than keepign the QL group in such a DEAD thing
aviduser said
ha ha ...that got deleted. screw this place i'm off
UkEngQatar said
Well said Adey. Sense and ...Well said Adey. Sense and sensibility has left QL. No one is posting real useful info,or debating in a constructive way. Like BritExpat said. Just to much abuse and too less amusement.
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"HE WHO DARES WINS"
Derek Edward Trotter
nephi2kph said
QL now.... ...is no longer qatar living..its now..
QUOTIENT LESS...QL..OWWWWWWWWWW...
AM I RIGHT?
Olive said
I doubt Qatarliving will ...I doubt Qatarliving will die. I think the issue is that the website has "evolved" with the country and mirrors what is happening in the country at large.
When the site was smaller you had a better representation of all groups and generally you could have a discussion and have equal representation from all sides.
Now the site is heavily swayed in one direction. And as everyone knows, there's nothing more dangerous than a mob of the righteous. They feel that they are the only voice and that they own the site. Their sound is deafening and since they're in the majority they don't want to or need to listen to anyone else's voice and they've cowed the mods into doing what they want.
Long live the minority I say.
Happy Happy said
Each QLer is part of the problem and the solution. ...I like it that no one wants to claim partial reasonability! very reactive and lazy. Why don't you all start posting threads of your liking and start a "new" mainstream of sound debates and healthy discussions, maybe because most of you are unable to?
Each QLer is part of the problem and the solution.
Salam
Dracula said
I am an "Aviduser Fan Club" ...I am an "Aviduser Fan Club" member!
I love her comments!
I used to call her "Gold Mouth" because her bussiness related advices are priceless! :)
But I really dont understand why she starts, as stealth said, "promoting another site here even though it is masked" ???
Formatted Soul said
Lets bring it back to ...Lets bring it back to life....
Missing Gypsy terribly...
UkEngQatar said
FS Gypsy is exteremly busy ...FS Gypsy is exteremly busy at the moment. Maybe she will come back. I hear she has become very religious..:) lol
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"HE WHO DARES WINS"
Derek Edward Trotter
exiledsaint said
At the end of the day who ...At the end of the day who cares, these sites come and go and in 5/10/20 years who will really miss it?
Yahoo used to be the no.1 search engineer, IBM the biggest manufacture of PCs, Netscape had the whole brower market at one time, plus many more. Who really cares that they don't use these services now?
Best thing Qatari could do now like an investor on the Pearl is sell it on for a lot of money while the advertising is still coming in and get what he can for it.
DaRuDe said
UkEng ...She visited the Pope
and the Pope started crying he said i giveup i cant hear her any more. and the Pope resigned. he is now a bartender in irish harp.
UkEngQatar said
lol Da.. Did you make it to ...lol Da.. Did you make it to the wiggly tower on Thursday?
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"HE WHO DARES WINS"
Derek Edward Trotter
DaRuDe said
UkEng ...Yea right you jungle head i was there and you arrrrrrrgh
UkEngQatar said
Was moving myself that day. ...Was moving myself that day. So could not make it.
What up with QLSG nowadays? I thought you was the Manager once upon a time?
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"HE WHO DARES WINS"
Derek Edward Trotter
somwerNdmiddle said
xactly oilve ;p ...xactly olive ;p
verisimilitude said
this is a veiled attack on the Moderators ...I think the MODs are doing a great job
We can do without the tasteless and baseless attack of revered institutions out of which certain people seem to derive great pleasure...
And they justify it with 'freedom of expression'...
People need to focus on achieving something constructive out of their freedom of expression rather than using it as a means to spew their venom...
Lion_King said
Genuine point adey... I have ...Genuine point adey...
I have been noticing for quite sometime many ridiculous and totally irrelevant threads posted focusing mainly on racial discriminantion and abuse.If we categorize the quality of threads posted, some posts are really atrocious and blot on the landscape to the reader; I agree that some are informative and pertinent and often result in good fun. There is no genuine discussion ongoing although the topic has valid points.
Yes, QL is exhibiting shadows of deterioration and requires some recovery plan to be more informative and consistent...
Olive said
Versimiltude has proven my ...Versimiltude has proven my point. He's the demographic the site is skewed towards now. Anyone elses opinion is "spewing venom"
legal_pad said
Qatar Living is Dying ...I believe one of the many reasons; Why QL is dying out?
1-It is because like many internet marketing business is suffering from the bad economic recession.
2-The bathing bars of 'Soap and Operas in QL' dissolve too quickly in the polluted waters of Changes Rivers all the time. No chance to kill the bad germs of the internet.
3-In Accord with the medical authorities, there is not enough Swine flu shots for everyone. Everyone is running to the mountains instead of QL.
4-Boredom is a common denominator lately in QL.
5- The Leadership is at the lowest point with QL.
Life is short. Break all the rules. Forgive quickly.
Kiss slowly, love truly and never regret the things that
made you laugh.
Graduated from Xavier Institute for Higher learning
verisimilitude said
Olive... ...my comment was about "people who make tasteless and baseless attack of revered institutions and derive pleasure out of it"...
So you are championing the cause of people who make vitriolic comments for the sake of it?
exiledsaint said
What is revered instition? ...What is revered instition? Some people would say the White House is a revered institution and yet people get pleasure making fun out of it....
One mans revered institution is another man's hell.
verisimilitude said
ES ...Right... some people would consider the Whitehouse to be a revered institution... and it should not be the target of 'tasteless and baseless' attacks... however if it is criticism based on facts and sound logic, then its constructive...
verisimilitude said
this is a pointless thread ...and the testimony to that fact is the track record of some of the people who have agreed with the original poster... so I am just gonna let you guys lick your wounds and rue the loss of some of the more extreme elements among yourselves... but I for one am with the mods on this...
Munna143 said
very true ...very true
Scarlett said
ahh geez...what a switch... ...This just goes to show you how the mods(and the radicals) have changed QL...Versi is in AGREEMENT with the mods!!! Whoa..what a 180 degree switch THAT is! Could it basically be because he's now getting molly coddled and not banned as he always was, over and over again??
I agree with you Adey...QL is dying. Its not got the mental stimulation it once had. The people who made it a really interesting place to come, have left or at the very most, are in reading mode. If I wanted baby food, I'd go to the grocery store.
Personally, I stopped coming to this site because of all the religious hatred and arguements that was a daily occurrance. There was no respect given to each other...only ONE was right(I shall remain silent on which one that was, ahem), no matter what, but they certainly would be the ones to very QUICKLY tell the others how their religion was SUPPOSED to be done, even tho they had no clue but only believed in what propaganda told them. 99% of the time even THAT made me laugh because it was so far off the mark that it was hilarious to hear what they thought the other religion did. some nationals slamming other nations really got VERY old...seemed some countries were fair game while others couldn't be touched.
Then I just got busy with other things and never came back except to check my messages....Odd how you still get PMs asking to be added as friends, even though you haven't posted in over 3 months!!
So...following advice given by MY religion...I'm turning the other cheek and going elsewhere to find interesting people to talk to...and still hang out with my friends that I've made from here over 2 years ago...
Stealth...as far as you said some of our friends got banned...none of mine have...so I'm guessing it must have been yours that did.
There WAS no Mafia...and if you thought there was...then hope the paranoia goes away without medication, and the voices in your head have stopped speaking to you.
Olive...you're right hon...
in the end...respect begets respect. Pretty simple.
Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift.
Happy Happy said
Scarlett ..QL was a smaller community ...2 years back, when QL was a smaller community, it was a whole lot better and calmer, we had lovely lengthy discussions, but there were still tiffs and heated arguments. I'v always expected the worst, with the growing number of members.
On the other hand, I've been lucky to have met authentic good friends on QL, quite enough for me. I still consider QL as "Qatar Eye".
Salam